Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 Kevin Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xorg -configure now puts: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work I have Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 I think you only need the other two values on a mouse with a second scroll wheel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
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RW wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800
Kevin Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Xorg -configure now puts:
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make
the scrollwheel work
I have
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
I think you only need the other two values on a mouse with a second
scroll wheel.
The handbook/FAQ--although good--doesn't apply properly in all cases.
For instance, my mouse was confusing to configure since I applied
improper arguments and ran the wrong commands. So, based on my
experience you shouldn't add anything to rc.conf related to moused
--except moused_enable=YES--unless things don't work for you.
Also, depending on your mouse you'll have to change ZAxisMapping to meet
your needs. For instance, my Wireless MS Intellimouse Explorer 3.0
contains a 1) left and right side buttons, an 2) up-down scrollwheel, 3)
left-right scrollwheel feature (looked carefully at the scrollwheel and
it can be moved left to right), 4) and 2 thumb buttons.
For me to properly setup my mouse I'd have to do:
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
in xorg.conf, but I opt for just using the scrollwheel, so the following
is legitimate:
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
How did I figure out what did what? xev--a wonderful program packaged
with the monolithic (not modular, i.e. version 7.0) version of
X.org--helps one determine what buttons do what by scrolling and
pressing each input to one's content.
For instance:
1. Invokes xev from xterm (data is output to stdout).
2. Moves mouse pointer inside box for X11 widget that comes up.
3. Scrolls middle mouse button up without moving the mouse or pressing
anything else. Output similar to this is seen:
ButtonRelease event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x201,
root 0x141, subw 0x202, time 70460667, (36,51), root:(536,81),
state 0x800, button 4, same_screen YES
The important part is..
state 0x800, -- button 4 --, same_screen YES
.. as it tells you which mouse button does the scroll up function.
4. Repeat 3. but instead scroll button down.
5. Use value obtained from 3. and 4. as follows in xorg.conf for
setting ZAxisMapping:
Option ZAxisMapping {value from 3.} {value from 4.}
6. If you have a mouse with side to side ZAxis rotation, putting the
value obtained for the left rotation after {value from 4.}, and the
right rotation after the value for the left rotation.
Hope this helps. This should remain correct as long as X.org doesn't
change their mouse input configuration (driver), and as long as your
mouse is detected and configured correctly by moused, the steps I listed
above should work for enabling your scroll functions. There's a new
setup for X.org 7.x that uses something called evdev which is a built-in
input driver in the Linux kernel, and it sounds like it's a pain to deal
with..
If you want to enable your thumb buttons, there's always imwheel.. See
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons#imwheel for a good
couple paragraphs on how to set that up to your liking.
Cheers,
- -Garrett
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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
RW writes: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 I think you only need the other two values on a mouse with a second scroll wheel. Does anyone know how to activate the side-to-side scrolling function of the Intellimouse Explorer? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Huff wrote: RW writes: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 I think you only need the other two values on a mouse with a second scroll wheel. Does anyone know how to activate the side-to-side scrolling function of the Intellimouse Explorer? Robert Huff Robert, I believe I described (in great detail), how to do this in my following posting. - -Garrett -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFuZ8kEnKyINQw/HARAmuvAJ4tPOyTF0AqvqZztWaHvMypoTYwFgCgqR5E Xycym4lCLfvZVN0CNG/AV8M= =rLwe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Wireless mice on either PS/2 or USB ports work fine with FreeBSD/X11/Window Managers. I've used them for years, and would never go back to a corded or balled mouse again. I too live with cats, though not Maine Coons, and you really should learn how to fix mice. FWIW, my optical mouse (a Logitech MX700) stopped working -- at least the scroll wheel stopped working. So I took it apart, and removed an unbelievable amount of hair from around the scroll wheel. It covered both portions of the optical train, and once it was removed, it worked fine. Very fine tweezers helped a lot. Other than that, you have to clean the optical port on the bottom once in a while, but that's it. I use tweezers. Rather than buy what's cheap, I'd suggest finding a quality one on a deal or buying a used one. I recently bought a Logitech Mediaplay (a fine general-purpose mouse) for $15, and another lightly-used MX700 also for $15. Yes, I have that many computers... Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Wireless mice on either PS/2 or USB ports work fine with FreeBSD/X11/Window Managers. I've used them for years, and would never go back to a corded or balled mouse again. I too live with cats, though not Maine Coons, and you really should learn how to fix mice. FWIW, my optical mouse (a Logitech MX700) stopped working -- at least the scroll wheel stopped working. So I took it apart, and removed an unbelievable amount of hair from around the scroll wheel. It covered both portions of the optical train, and once it was removed, it worked fine. Very fine tweezers helped a lot. Other than that, you have to clean the optical port on the bottom once in a while, but that's it. I use tweezers. Rather than buy what's cheap, I'd suggest finding a quality one on a deal or buying a used one. I recently bought a Logitech Mediaplay (a fine general-purpose mouse) for $15, and another lightly-used MX700 also for $15. Yes, I have that many computers... Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
Hi: I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. I have been replacing mechanical mice at the rate of one per month, by just going to the local radio shack and buying one of their cheapest PS2 mice, and replacing the hair-locked-up one. Recently. RS has cheapened their mouse design, so the inner rollers are now about 1/2 the diameter of the old ones. This modification has limited a mouse's life here to about one week! What I want to do is replace this mechanical mouse with an optical mouse. RadioShack sells one, with the proper Windowz driver. I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #2 however! If I go to Radio Shack, and buy their optical mouse, will I be able to configure it to work with my KDE/FreeBSD system? This device is not cheap! Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Mouse-less on the Atlantic Bob -- /\ \ /ASCII Ribbon Campaign- Motor Vessel Tamara B X against HTML email vCards- http://www.tamara-b.org / \ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Jan 20, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Bob wrote: Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Yes. I plugged it in, it just works. Not with a Radio Shack model, but with several others (Logitech, Microsoft, no-name $8 specials, etc). -jav ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
Bob writes:
Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD?
All input will be very much appreciated.
I've used the MicroSoft Intellimouse Explorer and liked it.
Will obviously work with Windows ... but be careful: sometimes MS
puts out a new sub-generation that changes the mouse protocol just
enough to cause problems with the {Xfree86, Xorg} drivers until they
get updated.
Robert Huff
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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:03:22 -0500 Bob wrote: I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. You must be doing something wrong. :-) My family has had cats for almost as long as I can remember. We currently have three of them and they lose a lot of hair. But somehow my Logitech Mouseman Cordless (bought 1995) lasted for 11 years. It was still working last year but I go sick of replacing the batteries. :-) Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Yup. I have a Copperhead. Not really el cheapo either but pricing was ok for me. The light is great for my long nightly sessions. :-) And together with a bungee I don't even mind the cable anymore! Works fine unter FreeBSD. Only problem is that by default it is recognized as a keyboard which kinda stops my other keyboard (non-USB) from working. But there's a way around that so no worries! Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:03:22 -0500 Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. There are differences between individual models, but in general it doesn't matter whether it's optical or mechanical. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:29:39 -0500 Robert Huff wrote:
I've used the MicroSoft Intellimouse Explorer and liked it.
Will obviously work with Windows ... but be careful: sometimes MS
puts out a new sub-generation that changes the mouse protocol just
enough to cause problems with the {Xfree86, Xorg} drivers until they
get updated.
Unfortunately one of the main goals of new versions of MS stuff is to be
incompatible with older stuff so as to throw other software off the
mark.
Regards
Chris
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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Saturday 20 January 2007 10:13, RW wrote: On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:03:22 -0500 Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. There are differences between individual models, but in general it doesn't matter whether it's optical or mechanical. i would recomend to hit ebay up for a nice late model logitech optical mouse. i just got my brother in law a 518 off ebay for $20, and thats one heck of a nice feeling mouse. im sure it originally retailed for somewhere 39-59, as typical with logitech mice. check ebay out, and find something will last for some years. cheers, jonahtan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:21:17 -0600 Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would recomend to hit ebay up for a nice late model logitech optical mouse. i just got my brother in law a 518 off ebay for $20, and thats one heck of a nice feeling mouse. im sure it originally retailed for somewhere 39-59, as typical with logitech mice. Thank you all for the wonderful information. I just returned from the local Radio Shack, where for $19.99 I got the Logitech opt-mse-931145-0403. The mouse has the number M-BT96a on the bottom, 30 day money-back warranty from the shack! This black 3 button-wheel mouse worked right out of the box. I actually got 2, one for me, and one for my wife, also running FreeBSD, and having cat-hair trouble with her 1-week old mouse. This mouse has a ps2-adapter plug on the end of the wire, and, if you remove it, the end becomes a USB plug. The docs say it can be a PS2, or a USB mouse. Thank you all for the advice, mice are now alive and well aboard the Tamara B. Bob -- /\ \ /ASCII Ribbon Campaign- Motor Vessel Tamara B X against HTML email vCards- http://www.tamara-b.org / \ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
Em S?, 2007-01-20 às 10:03 -0500, Bob escreveu: Hi: I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. Hello... I love cats... (I have an himalaian...) would you please send me a picture of your Maine Coon here in Brazil is hard to find and very expensive.. Congratulations... I envy you. Cheers, Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
Bob wrote: Hi: I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. I have been replacing mechanical mice at the rate of one per month, by just going to the local radio shack and buying one of their cheapest PS2 mice, and replacing the hair-locked-up one. Recently. RS has cheapened their mouse design, so the inner rollers are now about 1/2 the diameter of the old ones. This modification has limited a mouse's life here to about one week! What I want to do is replace this mechanical mouse with an optical mouse. RadioShack sells one, with the proper Windowz driver. I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #2 however! If I go to Radio Shack, and buy their optical mouse, will I be able to configure it to work with my KDE/FreeBSD system? This device is not cheap! Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Mouse-less on the Atlantic Bob I have a Microsoft Optical Intellimouse for PS/2 or USB. It works fine except for the scroll-wheel. But I have not got around to configuring X to make it work. I doubt if FreeBSD cares which mouse you have. The mouse has a tiny hole in the bottom which gathers hair. It can be removed with a puff of breath. I also use a mechanical keyboard which can be cleaned. Don't bother trying to clean hairballs from these rubber-mat keyboards. Oh, the mouse is listed at $31.99 on tigerdirect.ca -BobMc- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On 1/20/07, bobmc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob wrote: Hi: I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. I have been replacing mechanical mice at the rate of one per month, by just going to the local radio shack and buying one of their cheapest PS2 mice, and replacing the hair-locked-up one. Recently. RS has cheapened their mouse design, so the inner rollers are now about 1/2 the diameter of the old ones. This modification has limited a mouse's life here to about one week! What I want to do is replace this mechanical mouse with an optical mouse. RadioShack sells one, with the proper Windowz driver. I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #2 however! If I go to Radio Shack, and buy their optical mouse, will I be able to configure it to work with my KDE/FreeBSD system? This device is not cheap! Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All input will be very much appreciated. Mouse-less on the Atlantic Bob I have a Microsoft Optical Intellimouse for PS/2 or USB. It works fine except for the scroll-wheel. But I have not got around to configuring X to make it work. I doubt if FreeBSD cares which mouse you have. The mouse has a tiny hole in the bottom which gathers hair. It can be removed with a puff of breath. I also use a mechanical keyboard which can be cleaned. Don't bother trying to clean hairballs from these rubber-mat keyboards. Oh, the mouse is listed at $31.99 on tigerdirect.ca -BobMc- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xorg -configure now puts: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work -- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 Kevin Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xorg -configure now puts: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work You mean work like a scrollwheel, or as the center button of a three button mouse? Mine works like the latter, I have yet to have it work as a scroll wheel, even though my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains the very same ZAxisMapping. Bob -- /\ \ /ASCII Ribbon Campaign- Motor Vessel Tamara B X against HTML email vCards- http://www.tamara-b.org / \ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
On 1/20/07, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 Kevin Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xorg -configure now puts: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work You mean work like a scrollwheel, or as the center button of a three button mouse? Mine works like the latter, I have yet to have it work as a scroll wheel, even though my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains the very same ZAxisMapping. Bob hrrrm what is your moused setup like? my laptop's touchpad has two buttons, so I pass -3 to moused and that fouls up the third button (either clicking or scrolling I forget which) when I plugin a usb mouse. I changed the line in /etc/devd.conf that handles starting moused for usb mice so -3 isn't used and it works fine. -- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD
You mean work like a scrollwheel, or as the center button of a three button mouse? Mine works like the latter, I have yet to have it work as a scroll wheel, even though my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains the very same ZAxisMapping. This (6.1) box has a Logitech TrackMan Marble+ trackball. When pressed, the wheel acts like a center button. When rolled, it acts like a scrollwheel. I have turned off Xterm scrollbars, because the wheel does the job without taking up screen space. I had a bit of a hassle when initially setting up Xorg, because I didn't particularly want to enable console mouse and therefore needed to have Xorg use the mouse directly. Other than that, it just works. There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf on this box. What I take to be the relevant parts of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf are: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psm0 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
