Re: 6.x, 4.x ipfw/dummynet pf/altq - network performance issues

2007-02-06 Thread Chris
On 06/02/07, Justin Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've actually already done everything you've suggested with little or no impact at all. One point where we have different results is with ADAPTIVE_GIANT, I actually noticed a drop of about 50kpps thruput when disabling it. Hmm I am

Re: 6.x, 4.x ipfw/dummynet pf/altq - network performance issues

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 08:03 AM 2/6/2007, Chris wrote: On 06/02/07, Justin Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've actually already done everything you've suggested with little or no impact at all. One point where we have different results is with ADAPTIVE_GIANT, I actually noticed a drop of about 50kpps thruput

6.x, 4.x ipfw/dummynet pf/altq - network performance issues

2007-02-05 Thread Justin Robertson
bridge. This improved the situation somewhat, but an extra 30-40mbps of UDP data and it would ultimately crumble. Overall the machine would be able to move between 300k-600k PPS before becoming a cripple, depending on packet length, protocol, and any flags. Without a specific pf or ipfw rule to deal

Re: 6.x, 4.x ipfw/dummynet pf/altq - network performance issues

2007-02-05 Thread Mike Tancsa
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:03:41 -0800, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: I suppose my concerns are two-fold. Why is 6.x collapsing under traffic that 4.11 could easily block and run merrily along with, and is there a queueing mechanism in place that doesn't tie up the box so much on

Re: 6.x, 4.x ipfw/dummynet pf/altq - network performance issues

2007-02-05 Thread Justin Robertson
I've actually already done everything you've suggested with little or no impact at all. One point where we have different results is with ADAPTIVE_GIANT, I actually noticed a drop of about 50kpps thruput when disabling it. Mike Tancsa wrote: On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:03:41 -0800, in

Re: 6.x, 4.x ipfw/dummynet pf/altq - network performance issues

2007-02-05 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 09:53 PM 2/5/2007, Justin Robertson wrote: I've actually already done everything you've suggested with little or no impact at all. Are you sure you had kern.polling.idle_poll=1 enabled ? It makes a big difference in RELENG_6 with it on or off in my tests. ---Mike

Re: IPFW and PF

2006-10-31 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
sense to learn and lean on IPFW when using in a mixed Machine Environment. On the other side, many People seem to say PF is easier to manage once a setup gets complicated. As usual, both sides have their own valid points. My question though is not whether any of the two , IPFW of PF

Re: IPFW and PF

2006-10-30 Thread Andy Greenwood
question though is not whether any of the two , IPFW of PF is better then the other, but which of the two do you use, and why? Thanks, David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: IPFW and PF

2006-10-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
to say PF is easier to manage once a setup gets complicated. As usual, both sides have their own valid points. My question though is not whether any of the two , IPFW of PF is better then the other, but which of the two do you use, and why? PF, for two reasons. Firstly, because I don't have

Re: IPFW and PF

2006-10-30 Thread Andy Greenwood
Machine Environment. On the other side, many People seem to say PF is easier to manage once a setup gets complicated. As usual, both sides have their own valid points. My question though is not whether any of the two , IPFW of PF is better then the other, but which of the two do you use, and why

IPFW and PF

2006-10-28 Thread David Schulz
their own valid points. My question though is not whether any of the two , IPFW of PF is better then the other, but which of the two do you use, and why? Thanks, David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: IPFW or pf?

2005-03-16 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone tell me if it's ok to just use IPFW on my STABLE system, or is there some other knobs in the kernelconfig I should toggle to turn off pf support? By default pf is compiled as a loadable module, which you load if you want to run pf, leave

Re: IPFW or pf?

2005-03-16 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, the base systems ships with two firewalls? Three, actually - ipfw, ipf and pf. There's a brief explanation why in the handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-apps.html I prefer pf myself, but which one

Re: IPFW or pf?

2005-03-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have read the handbook about firewalls, and compiled my kernel without switching on any explicit support for pf. Now, when I ran the mergemaster it suddenly found a lot of references to pf in my startup scripts. The startup scripts support pf, but

Re: IPFW or pf?

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Davour
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have read the handbook about firewalls, and compiled my kernel without switching on any explicit support for pf. Now, when I ran the mergemaster it suddenly found a lot of references to pf in my startup scripts.

IPFW or pf?

2005-03-14 Thread Andreas Davour
I have read the handbook about firewalls, and compiled my kernel without switching on any explicit support for pf. Now, when I ran the mergemaster it suddenly found a lot of references to pf in my startup scripts. Is pf some kind of mandatory part of the base system these days? I thought it

Re: ipfw or pf

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:41:23PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Le 03/03/2005 ? 13:07:53-0800, Loren M. Lang a ?crit Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system (sometime on hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule is : First match first use. And the pf use entire

Re: ipfw or pf

2005-03-13 Thread Mark Rowlands
On Sunday 13 March 2005 09:16, Loren M. Lang wrote: On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:41:23PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Le 03/03/2005 ? 13:07:53-0800, Loren M. Lang a ?crit Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system (sometime on hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule

Re: ipfw or pf

2005-03-04 Thread Albert Shih
Le 03/03/2005 à 13:07:53-0800, Loren M. Lang a écrit Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system (sometime on hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule is : First match first use. And the pf use entire rules is very strange for me (I known I can use ?quick? butwell

Re: ipfw or pf

2005-03-03 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 12:57:06PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Le 02/03/2005 ? 09:03:23+0100, Stevan Tiefert a ?crit On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Albert Shih wrote: The both packef filters are maintained! pf is ported from OpenBSD and ipfw is from FreeBSD. GreatI can continu to

Re: ipfw or pf

2005-03-02 Thread Stevan Tiefert
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Albert Shih wrote: Hi all, From FreeBSD 4.5 I use ipfw on freebsd-box with 3 NIC card. Now I'm in FreeBSD 5.1. I've see in FreeBSD 5.3 there are pf and ipfw, why there two versions ? The ipfw is always maintened ? Or I need to switch to pf ? Why can I do with PF

Re: ipfw or pf

2005-03-02 Thread Albert Shih
Le 02/03/2005 à 09:03:23+0100, Stevan Tiefert a écrit On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Albert Shih wrote: The both packef filters are maintained! pf is ported from OpenBSD and ipfw is from FreeBSD. GreatI can continu to use ipfw;-)) Whenever two programs two syntaxes... Well it's

ipfw or pf

2005-03-01 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all, From FreeBSD 4.5 I use ipfw on freebsd-box with 3 NIC card. Now I'm in FreeBSD 5.1. I've see in FreeBSD 5.3 there are pf and ipfw, why there two versions ? The ipfw is always maintened ? Or I need to switch to pf ? Why can I do with PF that I can't do with ipfw ? I've ask this because