Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
On May 23, 2006, at 11:14 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: Installing it from ports (/usr/ports/mail/courier-imap) is pretty straightforward, and most settings can be left at the default, at least True, except... Courrier-imap is using maildir mailboxes, so unless the existing system already uses maildir, there will be some disturbance at the conversion time. Can be done very minimally. When we converted from mbox to maildir (coincidentally to courier) about 4 years ago we just did it in the middle of the night and had a script that converted the mbox to maildir (found on a qmail site) and it went fast and quick and mail access was turned off for only a short time... Probably less of a hassle then moving to cyrus but my experience with cyrus was long ago Chad Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
Noah wrote: FreeBSD-4.11 Well I want to get IMAP running on my FreeBSD box and would like to have a safe, non service-interrupting strategy to implementing it. I am leaning toward installing cyrus imapd. I have some questions about how to get things working. I recommend checking out dovecot as well. i switched from courier to dovecot recently and couldnt be happier. My MTA is postfix and i use maildir format for storage with horde/imp on the front end. Works very well ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 02:55, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 11:14 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: Installing it from ports (/usr/ports/mail/courier-imap) is pretty straightforward, and most settings can be left at the default, at least True, except... Courrier-imap is using maildir mailboxes, so unless the existing system already uses maildir, there will be some disturbance at the conversion time. Can be done very minimally. When we converted from mbox to maildir (coincidentally to courier) about 4 years ago we just did it in the middle of the night and had a script that converted the mbox to maildir (found on a qmail site) and it went fast and quick and mail access was turned off for only a short time... Probably less of a hassle then moving to cyrus but my experience with cyrus was long ago I made the switch from an mbox - cyrus/maildir setup several months ago and it went smoothly. You just need to make sure you run reconstruct after the conversion so the index is up to date. -- Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ pgpPRxHuflclO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
Eric wrote: I recommend checking out dovecot as well. i switched from courier to dovecot recently and couldnt be happier. What motivated you to switch, and how do you find that dovecot improves on courier-imap? Just curious, I have been considering trying dovecot, but courier works well enough that I haven't. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
Pete Slagle wrote: Eric wrote: I recommend checking out dovecot as well. i switched from courier to dovecot recently and couldnt be happier. What motivated you to switch, and how do you find that dovecot improves on courier-imap? Just curious, I have been considering trying dovecot, but courier works well enough that I haven't. i heard about dovecot and the fact that it was faster so i started looking into it, seeing how hard it was to convert, etc. I am glad i did. it is a lot faster both via Horde+Imp and thunderbird. Dont get me wrong, courier worked very well for me for a long time, but dovecot uses less resources and is a lot faster. its also only one port vs several for courier if you use authlib and stuff. check out the dovecot page for conversion info. it was very easy. Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer.
-- Message: 29 Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:23:47 -0800 From: Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer To: freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 FreeBSD-4.11 Well I want to get IMAP running on my FreeBSD box and would like to have a safe, non service-interrupting strategy to implementing it. I am leaning toward installing cyrus imapd. I have some questions about how to get things working. 1) Can somebody please recommend a good FAQ about how-to get IMAP running my FreeBSD machine? I'm actually writing a step-by-step guide on how I installed Sendmail+TLS+SASL+Cyrus-IMAP. The document is still at a very early beta stage, but it could help you out. Tell me if you'd be interested. Meanwhile, take a look at the following ports which I used in my setup: mail/cyrus-imapd23 security/cyrus-sasl2 security/cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd mail/sendmail Note that mail/sendmail is listed here because to have a TLS/SSL and SASLAUTH enabled sendmail daemon, you need to recompile it. 2) Are there things I should be aware of before I start the process? You should be confortable with the configuration of Sendmail and with the use of OpenSSL. I would also recommend to try your setup on a test machine rather then your production environment. 3) I don't completely understand how IMAP works – is there a good tutorial about this subject? Read the documentation that comes with the cyrus-IMAP port. You can also read the Cyrus-IMAP Wiki at http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki/ But to understand how IMAP works, then read the relevant RFC which you can find a list here http://www.imap.org/biblio.html 4) I don't completely understand how local mail delivery will change – is there a good tutorial about this subject? This is not exactly true. If you switch to Cyrus from something else, you will have to make sure that your mail is delivered to Cyrus instead if however it was being done before (local mbox or maildir for example). I have not run Cyrus in many years but they had their own delivery agent that your local mail agent (mda/mta like sendmail, exim, etc) would hand off to. Has this changed or does it still work that way? Yes, that is still how it works. When installing mail/cyrus-imapd23 you need to change your sendmail configuration to change your MAILER from `local' to `cyrusv2'. Regards, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator CISSP Sun Certified Security Administrator Sun Certified Systems Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
FreeBSD-4.11 Well I want to get IMAP running on my FreeBSD box and would like to have a safe, non service-interrupting strategy to implementing it. I am leaning toward installing cyrus imapd. I have some questions about how to get things working. 1) Can somebody please recommend a good FAQ about how-to get IMAP running my FreeBSD machine? 2) Are there things I should be aware of before I start the process? 3) I dont completely understand how IMAP works is there a good tutorial about this subject? 4) I dont completely understand how local mail delivery will change is there a good tutorial about this subject? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
Well I want to get IMAP running on my FreeBSD box and would like to have a safe, non service-interrupting strategy to implementing it. What do you mean non service-interrupting strategy? If you have already POP3 installed and running, there is good chance that installing IMAP will install another POP3 and at some stage it may create sirvice disturbances. 1) Can somebody please recommend a good FAQ about how-to get IMAP running my FreeBSD machine? Install from /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd23 for example 2)Are there things I should be aware of before I start the process? None that I can think off. 3) I dont completely understand how IMAP works is there a good tutorial about this subject? IMAP is a protocols that allows you to READ your email. Your IMAP client will connect to your IMAP server and retreive emails from your mailbox. IMAP also allows you to retreive mails from mail folders. 4) I dont completely understand how local mail delivery will change is there a good tutorial about this subject? IMAP does not interract with mail delivery. Once mail is delivered into your mailbox, IMAP allows you to read it. Best regards, olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
On May 23, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: 4) I don’t completely understand how local mail delivery will change – is there a good tutorial about this subject? IMAP does not interract with mail delivery. Once mail is delivered into your mailbox, IMAP allows you to read it. This is not exactly true. If you switch to Cyrus from something else, you will have to make sure that your mail is delivered to Cyrus instead if however it was being done before (local mbox or maildir for example). I have not run Cyrus in many years but they had their own delivery agent that your local mail agent (mda/mta like sendmail, exim, etc) would hand off to. Has this changed or does it still work that way? Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
Noah wrote: Well I want to get IMAP running on my FreeBSD box and would like to have a safe, non service-interrupting strategy to implementing it. I am leaning toward installing cyrus imapd. I have some questions about how to get things working. I like courier-imap. The set-up is easy and it has been 100% reliable for me on a bunch of different servers. It has never lost a message or dropped a core file. It uses maildir format out of the box, which I view as a significant advantage. Installing it from ports (/usr/ports/mail/courier-imap) is pretty straightforward, and most settings can be left at the default, at least until you get comfortable with it. There is lots'o'doc at at http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/courierimap.html should you need it. I first set it up years ago, it's in use all day every day, and the only thing I've ever had to do it to it is portupgrade. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer
Installing it from ports (/usr/ports/mail/courier-imap) is pretty straightforward, and most settings can be left at the default, at least True, except... Courrier-imap is using maildir mailboxes, so unless the existing system already uses maildir, there will be some disturbance at the conversion time. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
