Re: Is anybody here running Pidgin (under FreeBSD)?

2007-09-27 Thread Christian Baer
Hey Fans! :-)

Vince wrote:
 Hope this is enough. I stripped some email addresses out but otherwise
 untouched. I only use it for ICQ/MSN and have never bothered trying
 anything more than messaging (no voice etc.)

Dmitry Gorbik wrote:
 Ok, there is my log in attach. No problems coming through gateway
 192.168.1.1... I also have:
 (19:53:30) nat-pmp: found a default gateway
 (19:53:30) nat-pmp: Attempting to retrieve the public ip address for the NAT 
 device at: 192.168.x.x
 (19:53:30) nat-pmp: Timeout: 0s 25us
 (19:53:30) nat-pmp: Response was not received from our gateway! Instead from: 
 216.230.191.191

 All pidgin feautures (file recieving works well).


And last, but not least, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 Pidgin 2.2.0, installed via ports
 Comments:
 Getting the response from 8.232.191.191 was weird, since that IP
 is outside of the RR.COM domain!
 Debug any help?

First of all, thanks to all three of you for sending me your
debug-messages. I've had a few days of hardcore-work lately (the work that
I get paid for) and didn't get much done on Pidgin. :-/

I did get at chance to take a close look yesterday though and I'm afraid,
I'll probably let this thing go. First of all, I was hoping that you guys
didn't get that nat-pmp messages. A friend of mine who uses Pidgin under
Windows doesn't get them either. If this were the case, I'd habe a pretty
good guess ready as to what lib I'd have to examine - it might even just
have been a quirk in the make and/or configure options.

Since this isn't the case, I'd have to look through a ton of libs and fine
out where this problem is actually coming from. And that could be very
extensive. For all I know at this point, it might even be a problem with
FreeBSD on sparc64 - and *that* is something I really don't feel like
investigating.

I've already started a thread a thread on the Pidgin support mailinglist,
but the response there was everything but promising. I even supplied debug
info using the gdb (as we had on this list too). There was no response
worth mentioning. I got a few questions but not even a rough direction in
which I should look a little harder. The mailing list had extremely little
traffic for the time that I have been on it, so I guess the comunity isn't
all that active. The very thin documentation on the Pidgin home page seems
to suggest this too. The *programming* community is very active - I can
read the sf-statistics too. :-) But that won't help me much if I can't get
in touch with them using normal channels and bugging the developers with
problems is usually not a good idea.

Well, since I keep in touch with a lot of people at my university via IM,
I took a look at the daughters of other mothers :-) out there. Somehow I
got stuck with Kopete which at first looked a bit crappy to me but I was
completely wrong about that. It looks good and it feels good, which means
it's both fun *and* productive to work with. Ok, you have to play around a
bit with the themes for the chat windows (displaying a big avatar for
every line written is pretty silly in my eyes), but you can quite easily
get a window that is both good to look at while still keeping the emphasis
on the communication, not on eye candy. Besides that, I like Kopete's
buddy list because each contact is a meta-contact by default and behind
his or her avatar all the services with wich he or she is online are
listed, so you can choose what protocol to contact this person with. This
is important because file transfer isn't supported with all protocols.
Pidgin requires more effort for this, because you have to open the list
for a meta-contact first.

I will be investigating why Pidgin didn't run on my machine, but I won't
be doing that at full throttle...

BTW. If anyone needs a new buddy in his or her list, let me know. :-) But
contact me via private eMail first, please. I'm not to crazy about
publishing my UIN or whatever on a mailing list that can bei viewed on the
web by anyone.

Regards
Chris
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Is anybody here running Pidgin (under FreeBSD)?

2007-09-25 Thread Christian Baer
Hi there again, peeps!

Since I still can't get Pidgin to run on this box and it seems that nobody
had any advice for me, I have decided to go at this step by step. I hope
you can bear with me on this one. BTW. The note on the subject, running
Pidgin under FreeBSD, is there because not all people on this list
actually don't use FreeBSD for everything. :-)

If there is someone who runs Pidgin under FreeBSD behind a router and is
willing to help me, would you please do the following:

- run Pidgin from a console or Xterm (XServer must be running) with the -d
  option.

- Send the result to me. Pidgin does not share any sensitive data in this
  mode apart from you IPs, which you can change like this: 192.168.x.x. If
  you do this, make sure that I can still distinguisch the private and
  public IPs.

- Let me know how you installed Pidgin (from the ports or with pkg_add).

- Tell me what Version of Pidgin this is.

You might find a post from me on this list, where I described what I am
looking for. Don't worry about that, I just need information because at
the moment I can't do much more than guess what the Problem is.

To give you a short version...
I noticed this in my log:

(00:59:33) stun: using server
(00:59:33) nat-pmp: found a default gateway
(00:59:33) nat-pmp: Attempting to retrieve the public ip address for the NAT 
device at: 192.168.x.x
(00:59:33) nat-pmp: Timeout: 0s 25us

Now, IFAIK sofar only Apple has a working implentation of nat-pmp. A
friend of mine runs Pidgin under WinXP behind a similar router as mine,
has no trouble with that and doesn't get anthing about nat-pmp in his log.
His Pidgin retrieves the needed Information var UPnP. This is activated on
my router too (status reports only) but still I think that an IM soft
should work without.

Never mind about that now. Just send me the info and I'll try to make
heads or tails of it.

Thanks and regards!
Chris
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Re: Is anybody here running Pidgin (under FreeBSD)?

2007-09-25 Thread Dmitry Gorbik
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:58:41 +0200 (CEST)
Christian Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there again, peeps!
 
 Since I still can't get Pidgin to run on this box and it seems that nobody
 had any advice for me, I have decided to go at this step by step. I hope
 you can bear with me on this one. BTW. The note on the subject, running
 Pidgin under FreeBSD, is there because not all people on this list
 actually don't use FreeBSD for everything. :-)
 
 If there is someone who runs Pidgin under FreeBSD behind a router and is
 willing to help me, would you please do the following:
 
 - run Pidgin from a console or Xterm (XServer must be running) with the -d
   option.
 
 - Send the result to me. Pidgin does not share any sensitive data in this
   mode apart from you IPs, which you can change like this: 192.168.x.x. If
   you do this, make sure that I can still distinguisch the private and
   public IPs.
 
 - Let me know how you installed Pidgin (from the ports or with pkg_add).
 
 - Tell me what Version of Pidgin this is.
 
 You might find a post from me on this list, where I described what I am
 looking for. Don't worry about that, I just need information because at
 the moment I can't do much more than guess what the Problem is.
 
 To give you a short version...
 I noticed this in my log:
 
 (00:59:33) stun: using server
 (00:59:33) nat-pmp: found a default gateway
 (00:59:33) nat-pmp: Attempting to retrieve the public ip address for the NAT 
 device at: 192.168.x.x
 (00:59:33) nat-pmp: Timeout: 0s 25us
 
 Now, IFAIK sofar only Apple has a working implentation of nat-pmp. A
 friend of mine runs Pidgin under WinXP behind a similar router as mine,
 has no trouble with that and doesn't get anthing about nat-pmp in his log.
 His Pidgin retrieves the needed Information var UPnP. This is activated on
 my router too (status reports only) but still I think that an IM soft
 should work without.
 
 Never mind about that now. Just send me the info and I'll try to make
 heads or tails of it.
 
 Thanks and regards!
 Chris
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Ok, there is my log in attach. No problems coming through gateway 
192.168.1.1... I also have:
(19:53:30) nat-pmp: found a default gateway
(19:53:30) nat-pmp: Attempting to retrieve the public ip address for the NAT 
device at: 192.168.1.1
(19:53:30) nat-pmp: Timeout: 0s 25us
(19:53:30) nat-pmp: Response was not received from our gateway! Instead from: 
216.230.191.191

All pidgin feautures (file recieving works well).


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