Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
Hello everyone,

I call this e-mail Network Printing because that, along with many
other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the
situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working
(copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer
connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP
address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the
output:

-- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19):
(The 1657 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT STATE SERVICE
21/tcp   open  ftp
80/tcp   open  http
139/tcp  open  netbios-ssn
280/tcp  open  http-mgmt
443/tcp  open  https
9100/tcp open  jetdirect
MAC Address: 00:01:E6:94:5D:5D (Hewlett-Packard Company)
Device type: printer
Running: HP embedded
OS details: HP printer w/JetDirect card
Uptime 0.010 days (since Sat Jan 22 11:04:39 2005)
--

I have never setup a printer in my bsd days, thus I'm inquiring here.
Does anyone have any clues, links to how-tos, a cousin's phone number
that knows how to do this? I also tried to install and configure cups
and lpd to no avail. One thing that did give me hope was this command:
echo Test | nc hpprinter 9100 which returned a printed page with
Test on it (without the quotes).

Thanks!

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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread albi
gabriel wrote:
I call this e-mail Network Printing because that, along with many
other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the
situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working
(copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer
connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP
address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the
output:
-- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19):
 zip -
9100/tcp open  jetdirect
try the jetdirect, got that working fine here with a HP Laserjet 5M
and cups (make cupsd run properly and try the setup in localhost:631)
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, - I had cupsd
running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631,
however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page
would be printed out that says *** Unable to open the initial device,
quiting.

Cheers!

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:44 +0100, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 gabriel wrote:
 
  I call this e-mail Network Printing because that, along with many
  other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the
  situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working
  (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer
  connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP
  address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the
  output:
 
  -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19):
  zip -
  9100/tcp open  jetdirect
 
 try the jetdirect, got that working fine here with a HP Laserjet 5M
 and cups (make cupsd run properly and try the setup in localhost:631)
 
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread albi
gabriel wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, - I had cupsd
running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631,
however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page
would be printed out that says *** Unable to open the initial device,
quiting.
in cups you have the choice between jet-direct, ipp, http, smb and more,
my suggestion was to try the jetdirect if you didn't do that yet,
furthermore, if i were you i would look at the logfiles from cups (put 
them in debug-mode if needed), it's possible that you need to change 
some permissions in the cups-spoolfile (and perhaps even a tcpdump can
be helpful)

GL!
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Gerard Samuel
gabriel wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
 

PORT STATE SERVICE
9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One
Jetdirect is HP's print server
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
Yeah I already use AppSocket/HP JetDirect in cups. Check out
http://normal1.net/tcpdump for a real quick dump done when Printing
test page.

After the print test is done, I go check on the job in Manage Jobs
and I see this,
ID Name User  Size   State Control
   HPPrinter-5  Test Page  root  15k   aborted  Restart Job
   HPPrinter-6  Test Page  root  15k   aborted  Restart Job
   HPPrinter-7  Test Page  root  15k   aborted  Restart Job
--
 
If I try to Restart Job this outputs:
Error:
 
 client-error-not-possible

and this is what the error_log from cups says:
E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
- no files!
E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3!
E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
- no files!

Cheers!

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:57:35 +0100, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 gabriel wrote:
  I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, - I had cupsd
  running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631,
  however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page
  would be printed out that says *** Unable to open the initial device,
  quiting.
 
 in cups you have the choice between jet-direct, ipp, http, smb and more,
 my suggestion was to try the jetdirect if you didn't do that yet,
 
 furthermore, if i were you i would look at the logfiles from cups (put
 them in debug-mode if needed), it's possible that you need to change
 some permissions in the cups-spoolfile (and perhaps even a tcpdump can
 be helpful)
 
 GL!
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:

 gabriel wrote:

 I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
 
 PORT STATE SERVICE
 9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One

 Jetdirect is HP's print server

You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially 
existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?

Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those 
given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at 
all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to 
justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for 
anyone who needs to print)

Regards,
-Colin


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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
my dispair.


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
 
  gabriel wrote:
 
  I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
 
  PORT STATE SERVICE
  9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One
 
  Jetdirect is HP's print server
 
 You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially
 existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?
 
 Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
 given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
 all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
 justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
 anyone who needs to print)
 
 Regards,
 -Colin
 
 


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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
which printing queue manager are you using?
is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box?
does your printing queue manager recognize the printer?
what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say?

Greetings
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Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at

On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote:
 heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
 cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
 the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
 my dispair.


 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
   gabriel wrote:
   I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
  
   PORT STATE SERVICE
   9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One
  
   Jetdirect is HP's print server
 
  You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially
  existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?
 
  Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
  given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
  all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
  justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
  anyone who needs to print)
 
  Regards,
  -Colin

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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Chris Hill
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote:
Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
anyone who needs to print)
Colin,
Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer 
that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has 
a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from 
the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP 
address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread, 
just had to point out the obvious.

I don't use cups - cause it looks like a huge pig :^) - but lpr has 
served me well over the years. Under 5.3R, all I had to do was 4.5
things:

1) put
  lpd_enable=YES
in /etc/rc.conf
1a) Run /usr/sbin/lpd as root, or reboot; your choice.
2) make the name 'snowball' resolve to the printer's IP (because I name 
printers after Devo songs). I used /etc/hosts, but you can run DNS 
locally if you prefer.

3) create an entry in /etc/printcap like so:
lp|snow|snowball|lj|ps|HP ColorLaserJet 4550N:\
:sh:\
:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\
:mx#0:\
:lp=:rm=snowball:rp=auto:
4) create the directory /var/spool/output/lpd and chmod it to 755.
This works fine for printing from Mozilla and Acrobat, as well as 'lpr 
somefile' type stuff.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 which printing queue manager are you using?
Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer.

 is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box?
It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http.

 does your printing queue manager recognize the printer?
It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer
activates, but nothing further.
 what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say?
These are the last couple of entries:
E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
- no files!
E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3!
E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
- no files!

 
 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at

Thanks!

 
 On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote:
  heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
  cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
  the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
  my dispair.
 
 
  On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
gabriel wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
   
PORT STATE SERVICE
9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One
   
Jetdirect is HP's print server
  
   You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially
   existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?
  
   Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
   given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
   all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
   justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
   anyone who needs to print)
  
   Regards,
   -Colin
 
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Jan 22 at 18:10, Chris Hill launched this into the bitstream:

 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote:

 Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
 given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
 all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
 justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
 anyone who needs to print)

 Colin,

 Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer that's 
 been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has a JetDirect 
 card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from the online specs at 
 www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP address? I apologize if this 
 has been answered earlier in the thread, just had to point out the obvious.

Chris, the printer has no JetDirect card, I only wish it had.
Thanks for the response!!
-Colin
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something 
that you may wanna try:

cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter

please tell me if it works=)

Greetings
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Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at

On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  which printing queue manager are you using?

 Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer.

  is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd
  box?

 It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http.

  does your printing queue manager recognize the printer?

 It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer
 activates, but nothing further.

  what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say?

 These are the last couple of entries:
 E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
 - no files!
 E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3!
 E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
 - no files!

  Greetings
  Oliver Leitner
  Technical Staff
  http://www.shells.at

 Thanks!

  On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote:
   heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
   cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
   the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
   my dispair.
  
  
   On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
 gabriel wrote:
 I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,

 PORT STATE SERVICE
 9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One

 Jetdirect is HP's print server
   
You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is
essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?
   
Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of
those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to
function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end
didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up
24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print)
   
Regards,
-Colin
 
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
Nope, nothing. :\


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:16:44 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something
 that you may wanna try:
 
 cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter
 
 please tell me if it works=)
 
 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at
 
 On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote:
  On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   which printing queue manager are you using?
 
  Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer.
 
   is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd
   box?
 
  It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http.
 
   does your printing queue manager recognize the printer?
 
  It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer
  activates, but nothing further.
 
   what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say?
 
  These are the last couple of entries:
  E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
  - no files!
  E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3!
  E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted
  - no files!
 
   Greetings
   Oliver Leitner
   Technical Staff
   http://www.shells.at
 
  Thanks!
 
   On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote:
heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I
cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and
the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives
my dispair.
   
   
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream:
  gabriel wrote:
  I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect,
 
  PORT STATE SERVICE
  9100/tcp open  jetdirect  === This One
 
  Jetdirect is HP's print server

 You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is
 essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already?

 Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of
 those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to
 function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end
 didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up
 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print)

 Regards,
 -Colin
  
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread gabriel
You know, mine has an ethernet card, I tried it and checked
/var/spool/output/lpd in status and it says waiting for hpprinter
to come up - which is the sad part cause its already up.

Thanks for the tip to the list though!

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:10:28 -0500 (EST), Chris Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote:
 
  Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those
  given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at
  all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to
  justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for
  anyone who needs to print)
 
 Colin,
 
 Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer
 that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has
 a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from
 the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP
 address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread,
 just had to point out the obvious.
 
 I don't use cups - cause it looks like a huge pig :^) - but lpr has
 served me well over the years. Under 5.3R, all I had to do was 4.5
 things:
 
 1) put
lpd_enable=YES
 in /etc/rc.conf
 
 1a) Run /usr/sbin/lpd as root, or reboot; your choice.
 
 2) make the name 'snowball' resolve to the printer's IP (because I name
 printers after Devo songs). I used /etc/hosts, but you can run DNS
 locally if you prefer.
 
 3) create an entry in /etc/printcap like so:
 lp|snow|snowball|lj|ps|HP ColorLaserJet 4550N:\
  :sh:\
  :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\
  :mx#0:\
  :lp=:rm=snowball:rp=auto:
 
 4) create the directory /var/spool/output/lpd and chmod it to 755.
 
 This works fine for printing from Mozilla and Acrobat, as well as 'lpr
 somefile' type stuff.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
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Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery

2005-01-22 Thread Oliver Leitner
To inform the list as well...

The bug got fixed
after setting the Loglevel to debug in the cups.conf we found out that the 
tmp dir wasnt existant, so he created the tmp dir, and set the right 
permissions, and it worked.

Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at
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