Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
Hello everyone, I call this e-mail Network Printing because that, along with many other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the output: -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19): (The 1657 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) PORT STATE SERVICE 21/tcp open ftp 80/tcp open http 139/tcp open netbios-ssn 280/tcp open http-mgmt 443/tcp open https 9100/tcp open jetdirect MAC Address: 00:01:E6:94:5D:5D (Hewlett-Packard Company) Device type: printer Running: HP embedded OS details: HP printer w/JetDirect card Uptime 0.010 days (since Sat Jan 22 11:04:39 2005) -- I have never setup a printer in my bsd days, thus I'm inquiring here. Does anyone have any clues, links to how-tos, a cousin's phone number that knows how to do this? I also tried to install and configure cups and lpd to no avail. One thing that did give me hope was this command: echo Test | nc hpprinter 9100 which returned a printed page with Test on it (without the quotes). Thanks! gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
gabriel wrote: I call this e-mail Network Printing because that, along with many other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the output: -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19): zip - 9100/tcp open jetdirect try the jetdirect, got that working fine here with a HP Laserjet 5M and cups (make cupsd run properly and try the setup in localhost:631) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, - I had cupsd running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631, however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page would be printed out that says *** Unable to open the initial device, quiting. Cheers! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:24:44 +0100, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gabriel wrote: I call this e-mail Network Printing because that, along with many other strings I've been googling for the past two days. This is the situation, I've got an HP PSC2510 and I've gotten everything working (copier, fax, scanner) except for the printing. I've got this printer connected to my network switch via it's NIC and it's pulling an IP address, I did a brief nmap to see where it listens and here is the output: -- Interesting ports on hpprinter (10.0.0.19): zip - 9100/tcp open jetdirect try the jetdirect, got that working fine here with a HP Laserjet 5M and cups (make cupsd run properly and try the setup in localhost:631) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, - I had cupsd running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631, however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page would be printed out that says *** Unable to open the initial device, quiting. in cups you have the choice between jet-direct, ipp, http, smb and more, my suggestion was to try the jetdirect if you didn't do that yet, furthermore, if i were you i would look at the logfiles from cups (put them in debug-mode if needed), it's possible that you need to change some permissions in the cups-spoolfile (and perhaps even a tcpdump can be helpful) GL! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
Yeah I already use AppSocket/HP JetDirect in cups. Check out http://normal1.net/tcpdump for a real quick dump done when Printing test page. After the print test is done, I go check on the job in Manage Jobs and I see this, ID Name User Size State Control HPPrinter-5 Test Page root 15k aborted Restart Job HPPrinter-6 Test Page root 15k aborted Restart Job HPPrinter-7 Test Page root 15k aborted Restart Job -- If I try to Restart Job this outputs: Error: client-error-not-possible and this is what the error_log from cups says: E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! Cheers! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:57:35 +0100, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, - I had cupsd running and I accessed and configured a printer in localhost:631, however, when the time came to print a test page, it wouldnt, a page would be printed out that says *** Unable to open the initial device, quiting. in cups you have the choice between jet-direct, ipp, http, smb and more, my suggestion was to try the jetdirect if you didn't do that yet, furthermore, if i were you i would look at the logfiles from cups (put them in debug-mode if needed), it's possible that you need to change some permissions in the cups-spoolfile (and perhaps even a tcpdump can be helpful) GL! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives my dispair. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
which printing queue manager are you using? is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box? does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives my dispair. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Colin, Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread, just had to point out the obvious. I don't use cups - cause it looks like a huge pig :^) - but lpr has served me well over the years. Under 5.3R, all I had to do was 4.5 things: 1) put lpd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf 1a) Run /usr/sbin/lpd as root, or reboot; your choice. 2) make the name 'snowball' resolve to the printer's IP (because I name printers after Devo songs). I used /etc/hosts, but you can run DNS locally if you prefer. 3) create an entry in /etc/printcap like so: lp|snow|snowball|lj|ps|HP ColorLaserJet 4550N:\ :sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=:rm=snowball:rp=auto: 4) create the directory /var/spool/output/lpd and chmod it to 755. This works fine for printing from Mozilla and Acrobat, as well as 'lpr somefile' type stuff. Hope this helps. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which printing queue manager are you using? Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer. is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box? It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http. does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer activates, but nothing further. what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? These are the last couple of entries: E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at Thanks! On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives my dispair. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
On Jan 22 at 18:10, Chris Hill launched this into the bitstream: On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Colin, Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread, just had to point out the obvious. Chris, the printer has no JetDirect card, I only wish it had. Thanks for the response!! -Colin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something that you may wanna try: cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter please tell me if it works=) Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which printing queue manager are you using? Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer. is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box? It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http. does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer activates, but nothing further. what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? These are the last couple of entries: E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at Thanks! On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives my dispair. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
Nope, nothing. :\ On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:16:44 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a search on google for that error, and i might have found something that you may wanna try: cp /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter please tell me if it works=) Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at On Sunday 23 January 2005 00:12, gabriel wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:29:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which printing queue manager are you using? Manger? CUPS, Mind you this is my first time trying to setup a printer. is your printer pingeable (or in any other way reachable) from your bsd box? It is pingable, I am able to go into its configuration via http. does your printing queue manager recognize the printer? It appears so, as when a print test page is done, the printer activates, but nothing further. what do your printer queue manager and daemon logs on the bsd box say? These are the last couple of entries: E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:17 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! E [22/Jan/2005:11:53:27 -0800] PID 65224 stopped with status 3! E [22/Jan/2005:11:58:48 -0800] restart_job: job #5 cannot be restarted - no files! Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at Thanks! On Saturday 22 January 2005 23:29, you wrote: heh, everything BUT printing is working, I've even got it scanning! I cant believe this. I refuse to go to windows for anything, that and the fact that I dont have a place to install windows is what thrives my dispair. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:23:50 +0100, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22 at 15:02, Gerard Samuel launched this into the bitstream: gabriel wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by try the jetdirect, PORT STATE SERVICE 9100/tcp open jetdirect === This One Jetdirect is HP's print server You mean the blackbox (JetDirect) sold in better stores is essentially existing within FreeBSD/Ports already? Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Regards, -Colin -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
You know, mine has an ethernet card, I tried it and checked /var/spool/output/lpd in status and it says waiting for hpprinter to come up - which is the sad part cause its already up. Thanks for the tip to the list though! On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:10:28 -0500 (EST), Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: Damn, I was on the *verge* of heading out next week to buy one of those given that I could *not* get my all-in-one HP psc2105 to function at all. I'd given up after days of struggle since the end didn't seem to justify the means. (Windows XP box is pretty much up 24/7 anyway for anyone who needs to print) Colin, Sorry to throw in late, but I have a (not very similar) HP printer that's been working fine and maybe I can help. I assume your psc2105 has a JetDirect card (with RJ45 ethernet jack) - I can't really tell from the online specs at www.hp.com. If so, have you assigned it an IP address? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in the thread, just had to point out the obvious. I don't use cups - cause it looks like a huge pig :^) - but lpr has served me well over the years. Under 5.3R, all I had to do was 4.5 things: 1) put lpd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf 1a) Run /usr/sbin/lpd as root, or reboot; your choice. 2) make the name 'snowball' resolve to the printer's IP (because I name printers after Devo songs). I used /etc/hosts, but you can run DNS locally if you prefer. 3) create an entry in /etc/printcap like so: lp|snow|snowball|lj|ps|HP ColorLaserJet 4550N:\ :sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=:rm=snowball:rp=auto: 4) create the directory /var/spool/output/lpd and chmod it to 755. This works fine for printing from Mozilla and Acrobat, as well as 'lpr somefile' type stuff. Hope this helps. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gabriel, Member of: FreeBSD-Announce FreeBSD-Hardware FreeBSD-Multimedia FreeBSD-questions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printing - Please put me out of my misery
To inform the list as well... The bug got fixed after setting the Loglevel to debug in the cups.conf we found out that the tmp dir wasnt existant, so he created the tmp dir, and set the right permissions, and it worked. Greetings Oliver Leitner Technical Staff http://www.shells.at -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]