Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 10:56:00AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:41:53PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so and the rest in /. I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, but would have little room for doing anything. That is realy a bad idee. / is supposted to be small to limit the change that something irriversible happens to it during a crash /tmp can be mounted so that it gets a real power boost There are many other reason why not to do this. I can't think of them this quickly. We ain't talking a commercial grade server operation here. With this small a disk, the more space you dead-end by consigning it to a file system that isn't getting used the more you limit what you can do -- in this case. Still the size of root is constand over time. Haveing two partitions (/ and /disk/) whould be better. You then can ln -s /tmp /usr /... to share these. Personaly I would juist try it out one or two times before installing it diffently. Then then do it with sepperated partitions. I would not do this if I had lots of disk, but... Actually, some of the heavy hitters out there say they have been leaning toward all / disk partitioning + swap, of course. That doesn't make it a good idee. I woudn't jump in to the watter even if everybody else did. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:41:53PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best divide the available space? With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so and the rest in /. I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, but would have little room for doing anything. That is realy a bad idee. / is supposted to be small to limit the change that something irriversible happens to it during a crash /tmp can be mounted so that it gets a real power boost There are many other reason why not to do this. I can't think of them this quickly. We ain't talking a commercial grade server operation here. With this small a disk, the more space you dead-end by consigning it to a file system that isn't getting used the more you limit what you can do -- in this case. I would not do this if I had lots of disk, but... Actually, some of the heavy hitters out there say they have been leaning toward all / disk partitioning + swap, of course. jerry -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
Actually, some of the heavy hitters out there say they have been leaning toward all / disk partitioning + swap, of course. A little OT, but although it has been advised over and over that you should never use a / only system, in some cases I have found it very useful. It is exceptionally easy to make complete backups (clones) of file systems, great for if you ever think you need to expand the size of your disk and easy to restore from tape to a new hard disk. Everything in one place, with minimal disklabel editing. On a heavily used production system, I wouldn't do this, but on firewalls and the like it's great. Especially when using flash memory cards as disk drives and need to 'flash' the card with the new file system image. Steve jerry -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
On 20-06-2004 at 18:14 Robert Huff wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. snip First, a question: what do you want this machine to do? Hi, thanks! Fortunately, no special requirements at this stage. I simply want to use it, so it needs an OS - and FreeBSD certainly beats DOS :-) 852 MB should be enough. Go with a Custom installation, and you'll need to be utterly ruthless about not installing unneeded distribution sets. Custom installation scares me a little, as I don't really know what I'm doing yet. I will try and read docs and probably start over lots of times (which is fine with me). When I really get stuck can always ask again :-) regards Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
Hi Mark, 852 MB should be enough. Go with a Custom installation, and you'll need to be utterly ruthless about not installing unneeded distribution sets. Custom installation scares me a little, as I don't really know what I'm doing yet. I will try and read docs and probably start over lots of times (which is fine with me). When I really get stuck can always ask again :-) regards Mark I installed a custom NetBSD version on a 420megabyte harddisk, and installed numberous FreeBSD installations (from 4.3 if i recall correctly) on a 1.2gb harddisk. With those two numbers i can figure you can install a minimum install of FreeBSD on your disk, and add some nice little features (the 420mb disk was running a firewall,dnsserver and a passthrough mailserver (With some low end checks that i didn't want to have on the actual mailserver behind it). This box also was a Sniffer in my network for extented period of time, logging everything to a SQL box behind it (on the management network ofcourse) , it had a lot of traffic passing through but it managed to work. So, the install size will be ok i think, your only issue might indeed be running into steps that might confuse you, reading the docs and asking us are good options. Goodluck :) -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reporter DSINet|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Projectleader Mostly-Harmless |[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Partition sizes for small harddisk
Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best divide the available space? thanks Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best divide the available space? With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so and the rest in /. I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, but would have little room for doing anything. Good luck, jerry thanks Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
Hi, Try this configuration / 128MB swap 32MB /var 32MB /tmp 32MB /usr the rest of the disk... I think tou will be albe to run the X too Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best divide the available space? thanks Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:41:53PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best divide the available space? With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so and the rest in /. I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, but would have little room for doing anything. That is realy a bad idee. / is supposted to be small to limit the change that something irriversible happens to it during a crash /tmp can be mounted so that it gets a real power boost There are many other reason why not to do this. I can't think of them this quickly. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Partition sizes for small harddisk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. First, a question: what do you want this machine to do? 852 MB should be enough. Go with a Custom installation, and you'll need to be utterly ruthless about not installing unneeded distribution sets. Once you're up and running: a) compile a custom kernel, and b) change the settings on newsyslog so you don't keep excess files laying around. Robert Huff ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the User and (retried) Minimal distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said No to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Hi there for such small disk I'll go for a / partition only that way you can avoid complications in the near future Jorge _ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
