Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-09 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 12:44 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
   I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.
  
   You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
   vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.
 
  i have a friend that do offset printing.
 
  he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp
  doesn't support editing CMYK images
 
 If all else fails, one could try running the Windows versions of
 Photoshop and Illustrator under wine.

That has been known to work, but not without some serious hacking. One
major problem is the software needs administrative access, so you need
to copy the registry from a working windows to the wine system.

If you're up to it its ok, but you do have to wonder whether you really
want cross contamination :), or even whether you want to support a
company that stubbornly refuses to consider OSS as a system it will
build it software for.

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-09 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 12:16 +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
 Uit een eerder bericht (9-11-2008 4:43):
  That has been known to work, but not without some serious hacking. One
  major problem is the software needs administrative access, so you need
  to copy the registry from a working windows to the wine system.

 Could it be possible to use Adobe's Mac versions on FreeBSD with less 
 hacking?

That's an unknown. There is no Mac emulator to speak of, and although
FreeBSD and the Mac OS share a common root they're not the same. You'd
need to really research where the differences lie and establish
something like a mac_compat to accomplish that goal.

But then do you really want to be supporting a corporation that refuses
to work with OSS? They've only supplied readers to linux, and have
outlawed the use of these on FreeBSD. Not really worth propping up when
with less effort you could learn to use and extend the free stuff thats
out there like Gimp and Scribus which would be beneficial to all.

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-09 Thread Jos Chrispijn


Uit een eerder bericht (9-11-2008 4:43):

That has been known to work, but not without some serious hacking. One
major problem is the software needs administrative access, so you need
to copy the registry from a working windows to the wine system.
  
Could it be possible to use Adobe's Mac versions on FreeBSD with less 
hacking?


jc
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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-09 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:43:25 +1000
Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you're up to it its ok, but you do have to wonder whether you really
want cross contamination :), or even whether you want to support a
company that stubbornly refuses to consider OSS as a system it will
build it software for.

I would not necessarily blame the company. There are several programs
that I use on Windows, Roboform as one example. I have contacted the
company and was informed that producing a version that would work on
all versions of *nix was beyond the scope of what they could presently
do. In addition, they felt that since most OSS users do not want to pay
for software, there would be no way to recuperate their investment.

I have the full blown version of Photoshop and quite frankly I have not
seen anything from the OSS community that compares to it. The program
works and has a very finely designed interface. Gimp is fine for basic
things; however for more finely granular work it just does not measure
up.

Just my 2ยข.

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote:
 Hello guys,
 
 Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
 I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.

You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar

On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote:

Hello guys,

Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.


You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.


i have a friend that do offset printing.

he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't 
support editing CMYK images

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:33 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote:
  Hello guys,
 
  Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
  I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.
 
  You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
  vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.
 
 i have a friend that do offset printing.
 
 he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't 
 support editing CMYK images

Actually it does have limited support. I do printing myself, and I
refuse to use M$ crap.

To be able to do the job I use Gimp for some editing (making sure to use
the CMYK ICC) and it will save in a RGB format. I then use scribus with
the same ICC to save in CMYK and final layout. It works very well in
fact.

Consider Gimp like Photoshop and Scribus like Illustrator. For help and
tips try meet the gimp, he offers an podcast in tips and tricks in Gimp
(and sometimes compares them to Photoshop methods).

Good luck :)

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:33:36AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote:
  Hello guys,
 
  Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
  I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.
 
  You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
  vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.
 
 i have a friend that do offset printing.
 
 he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't 
 support editing CMYK images

Nobody has ever said that the gimp was suitable for all purposes. But it
seems that most users of gimp (and photoshop) don't need it.

Most of the gimp users seem to use it for editing photos or making web
graphics, where RGB is fine. Adding and testing CMYK capabilities
is both time-consuming and costly because you need access to pre-press
equipment to do meaningfull testing, see:
http://rants.scribus.net/2006/06/03/why-no-cmyk-in-gimp-is-a-good-thing-now/

However, there is a gimp plug-in for exporting CMYK images: 
http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate.html

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:26 +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:33:36AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote:
   Hello guys,
  
   Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
   I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.
  
   You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
   vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.
  
  i have a friend that do offset printing.
  
  he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't 
  support editing CMYK images
 
 Nobody has ever said that the gimp was suitable for all purposes. But it
 seems that most users of gimp (and photoshop) don't need it.
 
 Most of the gimp users seem to use it for editing photos or making web
 graphics, where RGB is fine. Adding and testing CMYK capabilities
 is both time-consuming and costly because you need access to pre-press
 equipment to do meaningfull testing, see:
 http://rants.scribus.net/2006/06/03/why-no-cmyk-in-gimp-is-a-good-thing-now/
 
 However, there is a gimp plug-in for exporting CMYK images: 
 http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate.html

Actually I've checked that out and it isn't much chop unless you
specifically want to create colour sep plates. Gimp can handle CMYK
palettes because they're a subset of the RGB palette. Just use the right
ICC, import into scribus, and save as a pdf (or whatever).

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Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-08 Thread perryh
  Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
  I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.
 
  You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating
  vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports.

 i have a friend that do offset printing.

 he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp
 doesn't support editing CMYK images

If all else fails, one could try running the Windows versions of
Photoshop and Illustrator under wine.
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Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?

2008-11-07 Thread Mike Price
Hello guys,

Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD?
I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible.


Thanks,
DEK
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