RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
sure your looking at the right thing?  In any case a 280 is barely
enough to keep a PC powered much less a PC and monitor.  I use mine
for my DSL modem and DSL router.

There's lots of SmartUPS 450 UPSs on Ebay.  Find one that the seller
isn't claiming that he has 'refurbished' with new batteries.  Buy it
and when it arrives just buy new batteries from any electrical store
and give them your old ones.  (since it's going to be a given that
the batteries will be toasted no matter what the seller claims)

APS themselves also sells refurbs off their website.

Ted

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 I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone
 know if the
 APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and
 apcupsd? As far
 as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable,
 but this
 one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.

 Thanks.
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Re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Nikolas Britton
http://buy.apc.com/commerce/storefronts/factoryoutlet/default.asp
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
sure your looking at the right thing?  In any case a 280 is barely
enough to keep a PC powered much less a PC and monitor.  I use mine
for my DSL modem and DSL router.
There's lots of SmartUPS 450 UPSs on Ebay.  Find one that the seller
isn't claiming that he has 'refurbished' with new batteries.  Buy it
and when it arrives just buy new batteries from any electrical store
and give them your old ones.  (since it's going to be a given that
the batteries will be toasted no matter what the seller claims)
APS themselves also sells refurbs off their website.
Ted
 

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Subject: APC UPS question
I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone
know if the
APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and
apcupsd? As far
as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable,
but this
one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.
Thanks.
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and soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind
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re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread John Koepke
I have purchased a few APC Ups's from a vendor on Ebay.  Wonderful to
work with.  a few weeks ago the UPS I purchased about 1 and a half
years ago had a electrical problem and the ups failed.  He sent me
another unit and it arrived in just a few days.  I Paid $179 for a APC
Smart 1400 RM UPS.  I currently have 3 servers attached to it with my
various other routers and it will run for about 20 or 30 minutes.
With only 1 server it will run for almost 90 minutes or so.   He sends
out NEW batteries with the unit's...

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZupspowerQQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1

already i see he has a few Net UPS 650's for $79 or a Smart UPS 700 for $100




On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:05:32 -0700, Matt Navarre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm in the market for a UPS that works with FreeBSD. Does anyone know if the
 APC Back-UPS Pro 280VA Just Works with FreeBSD 4-STABLE and apcupsd? As far
 as I can tell apcupsd support for usb on FreeBSD is not reliable, but this
 one's serial and affordable but I'd like to know if it works before I buy.

 Thanks.
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  and soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind
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RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Robert Huff

Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

  I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
  sure your looking at the right thing?

I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
(420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)


Robert Huff



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Re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Matt Navarre
On Thursday 21 October 2004 07:35, Robert Huff wrote:
 Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
   I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
   sure your looking at the right thing?

  I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
 (420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
 serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)


  Robert Huff

Does the 650 work well with FreeBSD? I can get a refurb 650 from APC for the 
same price as I can find the 280.

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RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
they all use the same protocol, the difference is between the smart
ups and the backups. all smartups use one protocol all backups
use another.

The very newest ones with usb and such might have changed this, I
don't know.

incidentally with the smartups you can query the ups for the
amount of runtime left so you know how much life is left in the
battery, the ups self-tests this periodically and you can send
a command to it to do this.  Very useful.

Ted

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 On Thursday 21 October 2004 07:35, Robert Huff wrote:
  Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
I have a backups 280 and there is no serial port on it.  Are you
sure your looking at the right thing?
 
   I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
  (420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
  serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)
 
 
   Robert Huff
 
 Does the 650 work well with FreeBSD? I can get a refurb 650 from 
 APC for the 
 same price as I can find the 280.
 
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RE: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Robert Huff

Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

  incidentally with the smartups you can query the ups for the
  amount of runtime left so you know how much life is left in the
  battery, the ups self-tests this periodically and you can send
  a command to it to do this.  Very useful.

That's also true for the BackUPS Pro providing you get the
right cable (I used the -0095A) and the right software (PowerChute
Personal Edition (Windows) or apcupsd (FreeBSD)).


Robert Huff


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Re: APC UPS question

2004-10-21 Thread Robert Huff

Matt Navarre writes:

I believe they have the BackUPS _Pro_ 280, the larger brothers
   (420 and 650) of which are sitting two feet behind me.  Both have
   serial ports only.  (They are 5+ years old.)

  Does the 650 work well with FreeBSD? I can get a refurb 650 from
  APC for the same price as I can find the 280.

It worked well for many years, then died within the 3 months.
It's sitting on my parts shelf in the hope I have an excuse to make
a trip to Rhode Island soon.
(I replaced the battery within the last year, and would like to
get the electronics refurbed.)


Robert Huff







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