RE: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-15 Thread Gaston Benitez
! :) - Original Message - From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: yo _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++ I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-14 Thread C. Ulrich
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 19:12, Scott W wrote: Books and references- C- Already mentioned, KR 'The C Programming Language' is 'the bible.' This is also generally a lousy book to start with if you aren't programming already, but an invaluable reference. Pick up another book, wish I knew a

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread yo _
I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework from a university or community college. Not that I like disagreeing for no good reason, but I wholeheartedly disagree with that statement. If the

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/12/03 12:09 PM, yo _ sat at the `puter and typed: I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework from a university or community college. Not that I like disagreeing for no good reason,

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework from a university or community college. If the courses are any good, you'll get feedback, and you'll be paced and challenged with projects

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread Scott W
yo _ wrote: I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework from a university or community college. Not that I like disagreeing for no good reason, but I wholeheartedly disagree with that

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/10/03 07:12 PM, Scott W sat at the `puter and typed: Alex Kelly wrote: I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Daniela
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 13:54, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 11/10/03 07:12 PM, Scott W sat at the `puter and typed: Alex Kelly wrote: I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Chris Howells
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 10 November 2003 23:23, Alex Kelly wrote: So, it sounds like I should probably tackle C before C++. Not really, there's need to learn C if you just want to learn C++. Any decent C++ book will teach you all you need to know without

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chris Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 10 November 2003 23:23, Alex Kelly wrote: So, it sounds like I should probably tackle C before C++. Not really, there's need to learn C if you just want to learn C++. Any decent C++ book will teach you all you need to know without learning

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Chris Howells
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tuesday 11 November 2003 23:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: each other. [There is a myth that C++ is a superset of C, but this is not really the case.] C++ is based on C. Any C code (providing it does not use certain key word that are reserved

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:28:32AM +, Chris Howells wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tuesday 11 November 2003 23:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: each other. [There is a myth that C++ is a superset of C, but this is not really the case.] C++ is based on C.

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote: Wow, that's a fairly complete list. Agree completely on the C/C++ application/philosophical differences. The book list missed one very useful C++ book by Josutis, The C++ Standard I think. Don't have it handy. I agree with all said so far

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/12/03 01:37 PM, paul van den bergen sat at the `puter and typed: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote: Wow, that's a fairly complete list. Agree completely on the C/C++ application/philosophical differences. The book list missed one very useful C++ book by Josutis, The

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread abowhill
I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can compile C++ too (so, I'm assuming C++ must get used too). I can recommend Who's

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread alexander v p
if i've got the msg, it seems u're sugesting to go to software uni and finish that instead c/c++ advice @ the end. back to the ?, i would go with C for starters. C++ later. alone, with books, lotsa {coffee|oj|pepsi|...|..} and good luck. coursework can help if you have time/money. $0.0153 alex

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread abowhill
A decent school will start you with C as an introduction to programming then teach you basic C++ (you write your own abstract data types). On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 8:17pm alexander v p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i've got the msg, it seems u're sugesting to go to software uni and finish that

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? This doesn't answer your C++ part of the question, but you should have the Kernighan Ritchie The C Programming Language and then get something like C A Reference Manual (Latest edition is 5th I think)

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Alex Kelly
- Original Message - From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alex Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++ I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Scott W
Alex Kelly wrote: I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can compile C++ too (so, I'm assuming C++ must get used too). Does it

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread yo _
I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? If you just want to start programming in FreeBSD, Learn C as well as you can. The route I took was learning basic programming skills then reading The C Programming Language by KR, it's an excellent book if you