Re: KDE + GNOME?
Duane Whitty wrote: Duane Whitty wrote: [snip] ... I want to be able to switch back-and-forth whenever I want. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks for your responses. Sincerely, Duane Whitty Thanks again for the responses. I am now busily building GNOME 2.12 from ports. Sincerely, Duane Whitty Duane, I tried this and found that Gnome stuffed up my KDE menus. Menus items were rearranged, a new category called KDE appeared and most items were now under this. Some items were missing. In short, it had become Gnomified! Googling and posting this this mailing list confirmed that Gnome was interfering with KDE but nobody was able to tell me how to get my menus back. I eventually removed Gnome altogether which presented another problem. You can't remove Gnome without removing KDE and pretty all programs that depend on X as well. (at least I couldn't using the removal instructions provided on the Gnome on FreeBSD web site). But since you are already installing, this email may be too late. Regards, Ron Joordens ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
* On 20/04/06 13:19 +0200, Andreas Davour wrote: | On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: | | I just switched from Gnome to KDE because I had to many problems with | Gnome. KDE is a much more finished product (IMNSHO) and it's much | easier to work with regarding adding new menus, printer configuration | and other things that are the real reason you have a desktop. | | Gnome requires dbus and seems to have problems connecting to it at | times. Gnome updates are also a royal PITA (keep in mind, I haven't | done a KDE update yet), and I got tired of having to run and rerun the | updates to try and get everything working right again. It also | generates a bunch of errors that I was never able to successfully | eradicate, some of which make no sense. | | Gnome is prettier (IMNSHO), but pretty is secondary to functionality, | and KDE has Gnome beat hands down in that category. | | Agree. | | Don't shoot - just one man's opinion. | | Seconded. KDE updates works much better, and the developers don't call | you an idiot if you ask them why they took a specific design decision. And [EMAIL PROTECTED] gives GREAT support -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html DISCLAIMER: See http://www.wananchi.com/bms/terms.php -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +==+ Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
[lots of religous Gnome vs KDE stuff snipped] Guys, can we lay off the FUD? It's just a matter of taste. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both have great support in FreeBSD, and both ports teams work together to produce two great desktops. The existance of one does not belittle the other. Choose the one that you like, and refrain from spouting random nonsense about the other. Or just use both when appropriate. Come back here when you've got specific problems with either one and there will be people happy to help you solve them. --Stijn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:58:42 -0300 Duane Whitty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I'm contemplating installing GNOME . I am currently using KDE. Does anyone know of any issues I should be aware of before I proceed. I'm mostly concerned about dependency issues, especially wtih respect to the xorg clients and firefox. Essentially I would like to be able to choose which environment I am going to run on a per-session basis. Any hints, pointer, RTFMs, would be greatly appreciated. Yes, KDE and GNOME can both co-exist peacefully on the same system. As for an easy way to select which desktop/window manager you want to use, check out x11-wm/selectwm. -- Conrad J. Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In Unix veritas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duane Whitty wrote: Hello everyone, I'm contemplating installing GNOME . I am currently using KDE. Does anyone know of any issues I should be aware of before I proceed. I'm mostly concerned about dependency issues, especially wtih respect to the xorg clients and firefox. Essentially I would like to be able to choose which environment I am going to run on a per-session basis. Any hints, pointer, RTFMs, would be greatly appreciated. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/ should get you started. Check out the FAQ. You can get more help from freebsd-gnome@ or on IRC. Joe Sincerely, Duane Whitty - -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFERntTb2iPiv4Uz4cRAgSQAJ9zlbC6WZWtjvHyxr3gPM/yX3HQVQCgoIgN yZq40oOOGCD69b7tKFywTrk= =1iZL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KDE + GNOME?
I'm contemplating installing GNOME . I am currently using KDE. Does anyone know of any issues I should be aware of before I proceed. I'm mostly concerned about dependency issues, especially wtih respect to the xorg clients and firefox. Essentially I would like to be able to choose which environment I am going to run on a per-session basis. Any hints, pointer, RTFMs, would be greatly appreciated. I am running the current GNOME release and I have experienced zero problems. The only thing I don't like about my current installation is that the GNOME systrey does not work. Besides that it runs very nicely. Cheers Harley ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
Duane Whitty wrote: Hello everyone, I'm contemplating installing GNOME . I am currently using KDE. Does anyone know of any issues I should be aware of before I proceed. I'm mostly concerned about dependency issues, especially wtih respect to the xorg clients and firefox. Essentially I would like to be able to choose which environment I am going to run on a per-session basis. Any hints, pointer, RTFMs, would be greatly appreciated. I just switched from Gnome to KDE because I had to many problems with Gnome. KDE is a much more finished product (IMNSHO) and it's much easier to work with regarding adding new menus, printer configuration and other things that are the real reason you have a desktop. Gnome requires dbus and seems to have problems connecting to it at times. Gnome updates are also a royal PITA (keep in mind, I haven't done a KDE update yet), and I got tired of having to run and rerun the updates to try and get everything working right again. It also generates a bunch of errors that I was never able to successfully eradicate, some of which make no sense. Gnome is prettier (IMNSHO), but pretty is secondary to functionality, and KDE has Gnome beat hands down in that category. Don't shoot - just one man's opinion. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: KDE + GNOME?
Duane Whitty wrote: Hello everyone, I'm contemplating installing GNOME . I am currently using KDE. Does anyone know of any issues I should be aware of before I proceed. I'm mostly concerned about dependency issues, especially wtih respect to the xorg clients and firefox. Essentially I would like to be able to choose which environment I am going to run on a per-session basis. Any hints, pointer, RTFMs, would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Duane Whitty Perhaps I should be more clear. Is there anyone reading who currently has KDE 3.5.x and GNOME 2.12.x installed concurrently on their systems? Did you experience installation problems with respect to dependencies? Are you able to choose between running KDE and GNOME as simply as by running startkde or startgnome (or whatever the start gnome command is)? I like KDE and some of its applications and I don't necessarily wish to switch to using something else exclusively. I have many good things about GNOME and would like to try it out. I want to be able to switch back-and-forth whenever I want. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks for your responses. Sincerely, Duane Whitty -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. I looked at the FAQ and DOCs but didn't see this mentioned. Did I miss something? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
Perhaps I should be more clear. Is there anyone reading who currently has KDE 3.5.x and GNOME 2.12.x installed concurrently on their systems? Did you experience installation problems with respect to dependencies? Are you able to choose between running KDE and GNOME as simply as by running startkde or startgnome (or whatever the start gnome command is)? I like KDE and some of its applications and I don't necessarily wish to switch to using something else exclusively. I have many good things about GNOME and would like to try it out. I want to be able to switch back-and-forth whenever I want. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks for your responses. Sincerely, Duane Whitty I have both installed on a 6.0 box, had no real problems with dependencies that I can recall. I use KDM to switch between the two. Cheers. Greg Groth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 13:34, Duane Whitty wrote: Perhaps I should be more clear. Is there anyone reading who currently has KDE 3.5.x and GNOME 2.12.x installed concurrently on their systems? Did you experience installation problems with respect to dependencies? Are you able to choose between running KDE and GNOME as simply as by running startkde or startgnome (or whatever the start gnome command is)? I like KDE and some of its applications and I don't necessarily wish to switch to using something else exclusively. I have many good things about GNOME and would like to try it out. I want to be able to switch back-and-forth whenever I want. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks for your responses. I have both Kde 3.5.2 and Gnome 2.12 installed. I don't actually use gnome, but I need several parts of it as dependencies for other packages that I do run, and having enough drive space to do so, I just keep the whole thing up to date. Both run without any problems. FWIW, I have the opposite opinion from Paul on which is prettier. I think Kde is much more attractive than the rather spartan Gnome environment. David -- Sure God created the world in only six days, but He didn't have an established user-base. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/19/2006 04:30:16 PM: I have both Kde 3.5.2 and Gnome 2.12 installed. I don't actually use gnome, but I need several parts of it as dependencies for other packages that I do run, and having enough drive space to do so, I just keep the whole thing up to date. Both run without any problems. FWIW, I have the opposite opinion from Paul on which is prettier. I think Kde is much more attractive than the rather spartan Gnome environment. David I've got both KDE and Gnome working fine on my Gentoo system at home (I use FreeBSD for server use more than desktop), and they play together just fine. As yet another oddball opinion on the subject, I find KDE to be graphically prettier, but Gnome has a better flow to it. It's a bit more subdued (KDE seems to be very in your face). Also, the rendered of KDE just seems to mess stuff up more often. Desktop icon labels are cut off in the middle of a word for example, or toolbar icon labels have an off center appearance to them. I used KDE almost exclusively since Mandrake 5.1, but I've switched to Gnome as my primary interface as of Gnome 2.10. Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
On 4/19/06, Duane Whitty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duane Whitty wrote: Hello everyone, I'm contemplating installing GNOME . I am currently using KDE. Does anyone know of any issues I should be aware of before I proceed. I'm mostly concerned about dependency issues, especially wtih respect to the xorg clients and firefox. Essentially I would like to be able to choose which environment I am going to run on a per-session basis. Any hints, pointer, RTFMs, would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Duane Whitty Perhaps I should be more clear. Is there anyone reading who currently has KDE 3.5.x and GNOME 2.12.x installed concurrently on their systems? Did you experience installation problems with respect to dependencies? Are you able to choose between running KDE and GNOME as simply as by running startkde or startgnome (or whatever the start gnome command is)? I have this same setup (plus xfce4/fvwm2) and have no problems. Been doing it for a while via both ports and packages and they work like a charm. i'd suggest using packages, unless you have time to build everything from scratch. so yea, i can happily report no issues going this route. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE + GNOME?
Duane Whitty wrote: [snip] ... I want to be able to switch back-and-forth whenever I want. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks for your responses. Sincerely, Duane Whitty Thanks again for the responses. I am now busily building GNOME 2.12 from ports. Sincerely, Duane Whitty -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE, Gnome not coming down via cvsup
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 08:37, Kent Stewart wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 08:00 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: Hi all, I run cvsup to get the ports collection updates about once or twice a week. I noticed that the list of ports on the FreeBSD website has separate categories for KDE and Gnome. However, when I cvsup with 'ports-all' in my cvsup file, I don't get these directories in /usr/ports/. Is this an issue for some reason, or just a silly oversight of mine? NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. They go in the distfiles directory when you download the source tarballs. To populate them cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 make fetch-recursive and /usr/ports/distfiles/KDE will be populated :). The tarballs for all of the dependancies that you don't have the source for will aslo be fetched. Kent I think he is referring to: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/gnome.html ..and http://www.freebsd.org/ports/kde.html ..which are generated specifically for the www documentation and contain all ports that apply to each window manager. These ports are also in /usr/ports but are placed in their relative categories. They are not all installed as part of the gnome or kde base systems. You can run something like make search key=gnome or make search key=kde in /usr/ports to get a list of ports used by gnome/kde. You can replace gnome/kde with any keyword you like to be more specific on your search. -- Nelis Lamprecht PGP: http://www.8ball.co.za/pgp/nelis.key Unix IS user friendly.. It's just selective about who its friends are. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
