Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-26 Thread Mel
On Monday 26 January 2009 03:27:43 Jack L. Stone wrote:
 At 04:27 PM 1.25.2009 -0900, you wrote:
 On Saturday 24 January 2009 04:06:39 Jack L. Stone wrote:
  At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
   On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone
 
  BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still
  gives this error:
  /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found
 
 file /usr/bin/perl will give you the answer.
 
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 Yes, know it's perl and here's how I really use fastest_cvsup:
 # /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 -h `(fastest_cvsup -q -c us )` \
 # /root/kernels/7.0.src-supfile

 The above finds the fastest fbsd source and cvsup's from it. But, was
 getting fastest_cvsup not found

fastest_cvsup did not find perl. Your /usr/bin/perl is a *broken* symlink to a 
perl version that does not exist anymore, which file /usr/bin/perl would show 
you if you actually did run that command.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-25 Thread Mel
On Saturday 24 January 2009 04:06:39 Jack L. Stone wrote:
 At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone

 ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
   During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange
   happened. Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when
   given the precise path to the program. System doesn't see several
   but not all programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source
   files -- cvsup) withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.
 
 Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
 programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.
 
 You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's
 assume that you have zip installed:
 
 $ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip
 /usr/local/bin/zip:
 libbz2.so.3 = /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000)
 libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000)

 Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run:
 ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup
 ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable

 BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still gives
 this error:
 /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found

file /usr/bin/perl will give you the answer.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar


describe something more.
and what you mean rehash?



Rehashing forces the shell to reinitialise (for want of a better term)
so that it rechecks the path and can sometimes discover new programs
installed if they don't seem to work. Alternatively you can exit and


ok you mean shell rehashing. so PATH is missing something
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone
ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
 
  During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
  Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
  precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
  programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
  withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.

Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.

You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's
assume that you have zip installed:

$ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip
/usr/local/bin/zip:
libbz2.so.3 = /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000)


Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run:
ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup
ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable

BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still gives
this error:
/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found

Yes, I did re-install the port too. No dice.

Again MOST all programs run except for this one and maybe a couple others
that may be causing buildworld to fail.

Strange!

Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
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System Admin
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Robert Huff

Jack L. Stone writes:

  Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
  programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.
  
  You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's
  assume that you have zip installed:
  
  Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run:
  ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup
  ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable
  
  BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program
  still gives this error: 

No, it's a script - perl, to be exact - and does not count for
the purposes of ldd.
Compare more /usr/local/ bin/fastest_cvsup and more
/usr/bin/csup.


Robert Huff

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone
ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
 
  During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange
happened.
  Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
  precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
  programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
  withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.


BTW: as more details of the problem, I had found a tiny bug in mkdep
which initially caused the upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 to fail during
buildworld. Once fixed, it appeared to upgrade fine
(build/install/mergemaster), including a new kernel build/install, but on
reboot it still shows 6.3...!!! I have rmoved /usr/obj and even /usr/src
and tried over several times, but same result. Some parts of the system is
running okay, but not others.

Have wasted too much time on this machine and today will move to a new
machine and start over. This server is one of our DNS servers, so we're
covered with others that take over during shutdown of this problem server.
The DNS (or named) is one of the parts not running correctly and the most
vital.

Just a very strange issue and wondered if anyone else had similar results
ever -- it may just be the machine, but didn't act like it.

Thanks again,
Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 07:29 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone
ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
 
  During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange
happened.
  Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
  precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
  programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
  withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.



BTW2: Yes, I do know this isn't windows and doesn't have a registry per
se in that regard, but something does keep track of the programs
installed and I've never located that place/file/db not having a crucial
reason to before.

Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
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System Admin
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Daniel Bye
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 07:53:47AM -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 At 07:29 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone
 ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
  
   During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange
 happened.
   Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
   precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
   programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
   withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.
 
 
 
 BTW2: Yes, I do know this isn't windows and doesn't have a registry per
 se in that regard, but something does keep track of the programs
 installed and I've never located that place/file/db not having a crucial
 reason to before.

Ports and packages are, if you like, 'registered' in subdirectories of
/var/db/pkg

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.






BTW2: Yes, I do know this isn't windows and doesn't have a registry per
se in that regard, but something does keep track of the programs


package manages has it's database in /var/db/pkg

but it's COMPLETELY different that registry. it only keep track of package 
files etc.



installed and I've never located that place/file/db not having a crucial
reason to before.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread Tim Judd

Jack L. Stone wrote:

At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone

ja...@sage-american.comwrote:

During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.

Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.

You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's
assume that you have zip installed:

$ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip
/usr/local/bin/zip:
   libbz2.so.3 = /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000)
   libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000)



Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run:
ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup
ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable

BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still gives
this error:
/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found

Yes, I did re-install the port too. No dice.

Again MOST all programs run except for this one and maybe a couple others
that may be causing buildworld to fail.

Strange!

Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american


is the shebang line invalid?
head -1 /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup

and see if the program on that line is truly on your system:
ls -lF program location

The error above makes it look like it's the command line that's missing, 
but the shell will use the command line argument when the interpreter is 
missing.


Good luck!
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-24 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

  describe something more.
  and what you mean rehash?
 
  Rehashing forces the shell to reinitialise (for want of a
  better term) so that it rechecks the path and can sometimes
  discover new programs installed if they don't seem to work ...

 ok you mean shell rehashing. so PATH is missing something

Or an executable was added to one of the PATH directories since the
last time PATH was set or the rehash command was issued, e.g. when
a port was installed or upgraded.  See tcsh(1) for details.
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Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Jack L. Stone
During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.

I've suspected the registry is not updating, but really don't know as I've
never encountered this issue before in all the years using FBSD.

Any ideas?

Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.comwrote:

 During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
 Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
 precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
 programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
 withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.

 I've suspected the registry is not updating, but really don't know as I've
 never encountered this issue before in all the years using FBSD.

 Any ideas?


You'll most likey have to reinstall all ports!
portupgrade -a


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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.com:

 During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
 Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
 precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
 programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
 withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.
 
 I've suspected the registry is not updating, but really don't know as I've
 never encountered this issue before in all the years using FBSD.

FreeBSD has no registry.  Please describe the problem in more detail ...
i.e. give a specific example (cut/paste what's happening into the
email)

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
 
  During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
  Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
  precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
  programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
  withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.

Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.

You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's
assume that you have zip installed:

$ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip
/usr/local/bin/zip:
libbz2.so.3 = /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000)

If it required libc.so.6 instead of libc.so.7, and there's no
libc.so.6 anymore after the upgrade, you'll need to recompile zip.

-cpghost.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:56:45 +0300
Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.comwrote:
 
  During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
  Any ideas?

 You'll most likey have to reinstall all ports!
 portupgrade -a

More like:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html
(6.3 - 7.1 == upgrade between major versions)

Updating Existing Systems

An upgrade of any existing system to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE constitutes a
major version upgrade, so no matter which method you use to update an
older system you should reinstall any ports you have installed on the
machine. This will avoid binaries becoming linked to inconsistent sets
of libraries when future port upgrades rebuild one port but not others
that link to it. This can be done with:

# portupgrade -faP

after updating your system. Note some of the tools to help with this or
the instructions below for FreeBSD Update are not installed by default
(e.g. portupgrade, gpg, or similar tools like portmaster).

Instead to use portupgrade you can wipe out _all_ installed packages
(pkg_delete -a) and reinstall them again.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar

it's not windows. there are fortunately no registry in unix.

your problem explanation is too short to help you.

describe something more.
and what you mean rehash?

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Jack L. Stone wrote:


During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.

I've suspected the registry is not updating, but really don't know as I've
never encountered this issue before in all the years using FBSD.

Any ideas?

Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar

withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.


Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.


it's as simple as installing compat6x from ports/misc
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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Daniel Bye
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:02:27PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 it's not windows. there are fortunately no registry in unix.
 
 your problem explanation is too short to help you.
 
 describe something more.
 and what you mean rehash?

`rehash' is a builtin in some shells - csh and zsh come to mind. It is
used to cause the shell to reread the PATH environment variable and
rebuild its internal hash (hence rehash) list of items in the path. The
hash is used by the shell as a mapping between program names and their
canonical location on the file system. It's what lets you say `ls' instead
of having to say `/bin/ls', etc.

If you install a new port then such shells will not immediately pick up the
new executable - which is when you need to `rehash'. bash handles these
cases differently, obviating the need for the rehash command.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:03:06PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.
 
  Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those
  programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.
 
 it's as simple as installing compat6x from ports/misc
 !

Yes, you're quite right. But unfortunately, it's not a panacea.

Remember the recent bumps to libintl which affected an insane number
(i.e. nearly all) of ports? Update just this port after upgrading, and
nearly all your existing ports are unusable and need to be recompiled
against libintl.so.8. Since misc/compat6x doesn't contain libintl.so.[765]
(it's not a system library), you'd still be out of luck.

-cpghost.

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Re: Registry corrupt?

2009-01-23 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:02 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 it's not windows. there are fortunately no registry in unix.
 
 your problem explanation is too short to help you.
 
 describe something more.
 and what you mean rehash?
 

Rehashing forces the shell to reinitialise (for want of a better term)
so that it rechecks the path and can sometimes discover new programs
installed if they don't seem to work. Alternatively you can exit and
either login again, or restart the shell (depending on how you obtained
thet shell in the first place)
.
 On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 
  During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 -- fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.
  Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the
  precise path to the program. System doesn't see several but not all
  programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)
  withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.
 
  I've suspected the registry is not updating, but really don't know as I've
  never encountered this issue before in all the years using FBSD.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Jack
 
  (^_^)
  Happy trails,
  Jack L. Stone
 
  System Admin
  Sage-american
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