Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits ) egg and chicken problem ...

2006-12-13 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On Friday, 2006, December 8 at 3:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Bonnet) wrote:

Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Vince wrote:
 Vince wrote:


 Sorry lacking coffeee this morning I mean of course

 /pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2

 /me goes back to sleep now.
 Vince
 Vince,

 OK i'm going to have a try with it
 I'll let you know how it worked.


 
 Well :-( it does not work it seems the Adaptec patch for serverRAID 8k
 is not present in 6.2-RC1 as sysinstall does not find any disk
 

this is an egg and chicken problem !

How to rebuild a new patched amd64 ISO as I only have *this* 64 bits machine
and cannot acces to hard disks ?

I had a similar problem with my 3ware card when I first installed 6.0.
The 3ware card was brand new and not yet in the base system, but a driver
was posted on their site.  How I solved the problem is that I installed
another card that was supported in the base system, another hard drive
that worked with the card (UltraDMA 133 card/hard drive IIRC).  After
installing on that hard drive, and patching to support my raid card,
I booted off the patched drive and the raid array was then recognized.
I used dump/restore to move the patched system from the IDE hard drive
to the raid array, then could boot off the raid array as desired and
could remove the extra card/hard drive.

HTH.
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-08 Thread Frank Bonnet

Vince wrote:

Vince wrote:





Sorry lacking coffeee this morning I mean of course

/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2

/me goes back to sleep now.
Vince

Vince,

OK i'm going to have a try with it
I'll let you know how it worked.


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Frank Bonnet
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-08 Thread Frank Bonnet

Frank Bonnet wrote:

Vince wrote:

Vince wrote:





Sorry lacking coffeee this morning I mean of course

/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2

/me goes back to sleep now.
Vince

Vince,

OK i'm going to have a try with it
I'll let you know how it worked.




Well :-( it does not work it seems the Adaptec patch for serverRAID 8k
is not present in 6.2-RC1 as sysinstall does not find any disk

--
Cordialement
Frank Bonnet
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits ) egg and chicken problem ...

2006-12-08 Thread Frank Bonnet

Frank Bonnet wrote:

Frank Bonnet wrote:

Vince wrote:

Vince wrote:





Sorry lacking coffeee this morning I mean of course

/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2

/me goes back to sleep now.
Vince

Vince,

OK i'm going to have a try with it
I'll let you know how it worked.




Well :-( it does not work it seems the Adaptec patch for serverRAID 8k
is not present in 6.2-RC1 as sysinstall does not find any disk



this is an egg and chicken problem !

How to rebuild a new patched amd64 ISO as I only have *this* 64 bits machine
and cannot acces to hard disks ?

--
Cordialement
Frank Bonnet
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-07 Thread Frank Bonnet

Peter A. Giessel wrote:


It depends on what you are going to do with it.  This question has been
asked many times on this e-mail list, so you might want to start by
searching the archives.

If you are running desktop applications on it (such as X11), you might
be better off running the i386 version as some ports don't support AMD64,
however, if you have more than 4GB of RAM and/or are running all ports
that support AMD64, you'd probably be better off running AMD64.  I'm
running AMD64 with Apache22, PHP5, MySQL40, Dovecot, Sendmail, SASL2,
Horde-IMP, and some other things and it works great (Opteron 246 x2,
4GB RAM, 3Ware raid card), but YMMV.


Well thanks for your answer, the machine will be our mailhub so its
configuration will be close to yours ( except I'll run postfix instead of 
sendmail )
it will have 7Gb RAM so I have to go for AMD64

I discover after posting my email to the list the the serverRAID shipped
with my x3650 is not yet supported at 6.1 (no disk seen at install) but
I read in an archive there is a patch (in aac) provided by Adaptec that
will be integrated in 6.2 ...

If the 6.2 delay is too long I'll try to apply the patch myself, I never did
that but there is probably a way to do it :-)

Thanks again
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-07 Thread Vince
Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Peter A. Giessel wrote:
 
 It depends on what you are going to do with it.  This question has been
 asked many times on this e-mail list, so you might want to start by
 searching the archives.

 If you are running desktop applications on it (such as X11), you might
 be better off running the i386 version as some ports don't support AMD64,
 however, if you have more than 4GB of RAM and/or are running all ports
 that support AMD64, you'd probably be better off running AMD64.  I'm
 running AMD64 with Apache22, PHP5, MySQL40, Dovecot, Sendmail, SASL2,
 Horde-IMP, and some other things and it works great (Opteron 246 x2,
 4GB RAM, 3Ware raid card), but YMMV.
 
 Well thanks for your answer, the machine will be our mailhub so its
 configuration will be close to yours ( except I'll run postfix instead
 of sendmail )
 it will have 7Gb RAM so I have to go for AMD64
 
 I discover after posting my email to the list the the serverRAID shipped
 with my x3650 is not yet supported at 6.1 (no disk seen at install) but
 I read in an archive there is a patch (in aac) provided by Adaptec that
 will be integrated in 6.2 ...
 
 If the 6.2 delay is too long I'll try to apply the patch myself, I never
 did
 that but there is probably a way to do it :-)
 

you could try installing from the RC-1 images if your impatient. (ISOs
in /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.2 on your favorite mirror)

Vince
 Thanks again

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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-07 Thread Vince
Vince wrote:
 Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Peter A. Giessel wrote:

 It depends on what you are going to do with it.  This question has been
 asked many times on this e-mail list, so you might want to start by
 searching the archives.

 If you are running desktop applications on it (such as X11), you might
 be better off running the i386 version as some ports don't support AMD64,
 however, if you have more than 4GB of RAM and/or are running all ports
 that support AMD64, you'd probably be better off running AMD64.  I'm
 running AMD64 with Apache22, PHP5, MySQL40, Dovecot, Sendmail, SASL2,
 Horde-IMP, and some other things and it works great (Opteron 246 x2,
 4GB RAM, 3Ware raid card), but YMMV.
 Well thanks for your answer, the machine will be our mailhub so its
 configuration will be close to yours ( except I'll run postfix instead
 of sendmail )
 it will have 7Gb RAM so I have to go for AMD64

 I discover after posting my email to the list the the serverRAID shipped
 with my x3650 is not yet supported at 6.1 (no disk seen at install) but
 I read in an archive there is a patch (in aac) provided by Adaptec that
 will be integrated in 6.2 ...

 If the 6.2 delay is too long I'll try to apply the patch myself, I never
 did
 that but there is probably a way to do it :-)

 
 you could try installing from the RC-1 images if your impatient. (ISOs
 in /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.2 on your favorite mirror)
 
Sorry lacking coffeee this morning I mean of course

/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2

/me goes back to sleep now.
Vince
 Vince
 Thanks again
 
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Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-06 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I just receive a new IBM X3650 server bi-proc XEON and
I wonder which version of FreeBSD to use with it I386 or AMD64 ?
Of course it is a 64 bits machine
infos, links welcome

thanks
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-06 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2006/12/06 0:36, Frank Bonnet seems to have typed:
 Hello
 
 I just receive a new IBM X3650 server bi-proc XEON and
 I wonder which version of FreeBSD to use with it I386 or AMD64 ?
 Of course it is a 64 bits machine
 infos, links welcome
 
 thanks

It depends on what you are going to do with it.  This question has been
asked many times on this e-mail list, so you might want to start by
searching the archives.

If you are running desktop applications on it (such as X11), you might
be better off running the i386 version as some ports don't support AMD64,
however, if you have more than 4GB of RAM and/or are running all ports
that support AMD64, you'd probably be better off running AMD64.  I'm
running AMD64 with Apache22, PHP5, MySQL40, Dovecot, Sendmail, SASL2,
Horde-IMP, and some other things and it works great (Opteron 246 x2,
4GB RAM, 3Ware raid card), but YMMV.
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Re: Which version to use ( Xeon 64 bits )

2006-12-06 Thread Josh Carroll

I just receive a new IBM X3650 server bi-proc XEON and
I wonder which version of FreeBSD to use with it I386 or AMD64 ?


Do you have more than 4GB of RAM? If not, I'd recommend sticking with
i386. There are very few things that will actually run any faster with
the AMD64 version (notably, media encoding/decoding and anything else
that can take advantage of the 64-bit registers for math operations).

Josh
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