Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Andrea Venturoli
Jay Chandler wrote: Apart from that, I used to be able to sysinsall a machine booting via PXE. This doesn't work anymore in recent versions :-( Or maybe it is just my incompetence, but then, if someone managed this, I'd like to hear about it. This definitely works with 6.1-RELEASE, as

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Niek
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 08:21, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: 3) The largest complaint about sysinstall is that it's not graphical. The problem is that a graphical installation program has some -severe- constraints on it. First, it has to work in ALL instances. That means, 640x480x16 colors

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Nejc Škoberne
Hey, Please leave that to the desktop oriented BSD distributions. I wonder how many server admins would like to see an X based installer. Not me. Bye, Nejc smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Niek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: 3) The largest complaint about sysinstall is that it's not graphical. The problem is that a graphical installation program has some -severe- constraints on it. First, it has to work in ALL instances. That means,

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-10 Thread Beni
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 08:21, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life? Robert Huff wrote: (Personally, I think

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-10 Thread Andrea Venturoli
Ivan Voras wrote: Well, I'll make my statement too... Two reasons AFAIK: 1. it simply doesn't even know how deal with the more modern features like GEOM RAID, more advanced authentication mechanisms (nsswitch), and devices like sound cards (there are many more in this list...) Apart from

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-10 Thread Howard Jones
Andrea Venturoli wrote: Apart from that, I used to be able to sysinsall a machine booting via PXE. This doesn't work anymore in recent versions :-( Or maybe it is just my incompetence, but then, if someone managed this, I'd like to hear about it. This definitely works with 6.1-RELEASE, as I've

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-10 Thread Apatewna
The only real drawback I see in sysinstall is that at several stages you cannot perceive what the previous part was and what the next step is. There are times that you have to exit in order to continue. Maybe an overall progress bar in plain text (eg Welcome - Select disk - Select partitions

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-10 Thread Howard Jones
Jay Chandler wrote: I've been trying to script an install for FreeBSD since I just had a bunch of servers dropped on me-- may I ask how you did yours? Roughly speaking, I started with this document: http://www.tnpi.biz/computing/freebsd/pxe-netboot.shtml and this document:

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-10 Thread Jay Chandler
Howard Jones wrote: Andrea Venturoli wrote: Apart from that, I used to be able to sysinsall a machine booting via PXE. This doesn't work anymore in recent versions :-( Or maybe it is just my incompetence, but then, if someone managed this, I'd like to hear about it. This definitely

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-09 Thread David Schulz
, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life? Robert Huff wrote: (Personally, I think there are also points where

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-09 Thread hal
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:19 AM, David Schulz wrote: to be honest, i actually like the sys-install program. i did it so many times, that i just fly trough the sys-install installation in like a minute to do a plain basic installation. i also like the fact that i can just use it via ssh from a

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-08 Thread Robert Huff
Ivan Voras wrote: I've read up a few things stating that sysinstall is at its end-of-life and there are plans to replace it. I'm wondering about the reasons or rationale behind this. Two reasons AFAIK: 1. it simply doesn't even know how deal with the more modern features like GEOM

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
- Original Message - From: Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life? Robert Huff wrote: (Personally, I think there are also points where the correct user behavior

Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-07 Thread Mark Lu
I've read up a few things stating that sysinstall is at its end-of-life and there are plans to replace it. I'm wondering about the reasons or rationale behind this. Even today, sysinstall seems to work extremely well as an easy-to-use, simple, and stable tool for the installation of FreeBSD. None

Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-07 Thread Robert Huff
Mark Lu writes: So, why is there a move to find a replacement or something? Software shouldn't be replaced for the sole reason of being old if it works, right? As I understand the discussion: among others, because there are features people want to add that don't fit in the current

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-07 Thread Ivan Voras
Mark Lu wrote: I've read up a few things stating that sysinstall is at its end-of-life and there are plans to replace it. I'm wondering about the reasons or rationale behind this. Even today, sysinstall seems to work extremely well as an easy-to-use, simple, and stable tool for the

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-07 Thread Tore Lund
Robert Huff wrote: (Personally, I think there are also points where the correct user behavior is not intuitively obvious.) An understatement. There are situations where sysinstall is positively quixotic. I don't mind the simple character-based interface. But I do find it worrying that I

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-07 Thread bobmc
Ivan Voras wrote: Mark Lu wrote: I've read up a few things stating that sysinstall is at its end-of-life and there are plans to replace it. I'm wondering about the reasons or rationale behind this. Even today, sysinstall seems to work extremely well as an easy-to-use, simple, and stable