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fsck -y and SU+J
I see that if you run fsck on a filesystem with SU+J turned-on, fsck asks whether you want to use the journal. This causes a problem when running fsck -y. The traditional meaning of this command was: do a thorough, unconditional, non-interactive check; but now SU+J filesystems only get a journal sync. I can't even see the point in the question, surely someone that was content to use the journal would do a preen. This in 10-CURRENT. I'm not sure if it's like this in 9.1 or 9-STABLE, I only spent a week there trying to get intel kms graphics working on new hardware, so I'm new to SU+J. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: restore /usr dump on two hard disk parallel y
thanks Lowell for your reply, i want to restore my /usr dump on both of my disks (each one has /usr partition separately). i try to use TMPDIR in order to prevent this conflict, but restore does not identify it and use my /tmp dir yet. this is what i do: first, i create a tmp1 directory in /tmp directory and set its permission to 777 second, i mount tmp1 into my hard disk number 1 i do these two steps for my hard disk number 2 (create tmp2 in tmp and mount it to hard disk number 2) moreover, this is my restore command: TMPDIR=/tmp/tmp2 restore rf /mnt/dumps/zrdump_usr.dump TMPDIR man page for restore command said: if you use -r option, it uses tmp files with unique name in /tmp directory. as you see, i am using -r in my restore command but conflict happens yet. please let me know how to use TMPDIR or any other solution to avoid conflict in /tmp directory. thanks in advance sam On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com writes: i'm trying to restore DUMP file for partition /usr on tow hard disk parallel y. these two hard are connected to my system (i have freebsd8.2). i use restore command and it uses /tmp directory to restore dump. in restoring dump process, two hard disks try to use /tmp directory of my system. therefore conflict happened and restore command return error. i try to use TMPDIR and define another tmp directory for one of my hard disk but it does not identify it and use my system tmp directory yet. please let me know if using TMPDIR is a good idea and how i can use it. if not, how i can restore /usr dump file on two hard disk parallel y? What do you want to do exactly? Do you want both disks together to be your new /usr/partition? In that case, you want to set up some kind of RAID system with the two disks. Start with the GEOM section in the handbook. Do you want to end up with two partitions, each holding part of what the /usr backup contains? If that's what you're after, then the best approach is probably to pick one subdirectory of /usr (/usr/local would be an obvious choice) and restore everything *but* that to one of your disks, then mount the other disk on the subdirectory and restore the rest onto there. If your problem is just that the two restore operations are stepping on each other's temporary files, then TMPDIR *should* take care of that. You could show us more detail of how you run the restore operations, or just run them one at a time instead of in parallel. I hope that helps. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
restore /usr dump on two hard disk parallel y
hello guys i'm trying to restore DUMP file for partition /usr on tow hard disk parallel y. these two hard are connected to my system (i have freebsd8.2). i use restore command and it uses /tmp directory to restore dump. in restoring dump process, two hard disks try to use /tmp directory of my system. therefore conflict happened and restore command return error. i try to use TMPDIR and define another tmp directory for one of my hard disk but it does not identify it and use my system tmp directory yet. please let me know if using TMPDIR is a good idea and how i can use it. if not, how i can restore /usr dump file on two hard disk parallel y? thanks in advance sam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: restore /usr dump on two hard disk parallel y
s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com writes: i'm trying to restore DUMP file for partition /usr on tow hard disk parallel y. these two hard are connected to my system (i have freebsd8.2). i use restore command and it uses /tmp directory to restore dump. in restoring dump process, two hard disks try to use /tmp directory of my system. therefore conflict happened and restore command return error. i try to use TMPDIR and define another tmp directory for one of my hard disk but it does not identify it and use my system tmp directory yet. please let me know if using TMPDIR is a good idea and how i can use it. if not, how i can restore /usr dump file on two hard disk parallel y? What do you want to do exactly? Do you want both disks together to be your new /usr/partition? In that case, you want to set up some kind of RAID system with the two disks. Start with the GEOM section in the handbook. Do you want to end up with two partitions, each holding part of what the /usr backup contains? If that's what you're after, then the best approach is probably to pick one subdirectory of /usr (/usr/local would be an obvious choice) and restore everything *but* that to one of your disks, then mount the other disk on the subdirectory and restore the rest onto there. If your problem is just that the two restore operations are stepping on each other's temporary files, then TMPDIR *should* take care of that. You could show us more detail of how you run the restore operations, or just run them one at a time instead of in parallel. I hope that helps. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
=== Starting check for runtime dependencies === Gathering dependency list for archivers/unzip from ports === No dependencies for archivers/unzip === Installing package === Installation of archivers/unzip (unzip-6.0_1) succeeded === Delete unzip60.tar.gz? y/n [n] What option do I need to specify with -y to automatically answer those? I've tried --clean-distfiles, --clean-packages but it's not it. It usually happens when doing portmaster --packages-build --delete-build-only build. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/portmaster-embarrassingly-simple-question-y-option-tp5723878.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
-d tells it to always delete old files without prompting. Thanks, Dean Weimer On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: === Starting check for runtime dependencies === Gathering dependency list for archivers/unzip from ports === No dependencies for archivers/unzip === Installing package === Installation of archivers/unzip (unzip-6.0_1) succeeded === Delete unzip60.tar.gz? y/n [n] What option do I need to specify with -y to automatically answer those? I've tried --clean-distfiles, --clean-packages but it's not it. It usually happens when doing portmaster --packages-build --delete-build-only build. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/portmaster-embarrassingly-simple-question-y-option-tp5723878.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
On 07/03/2012 12:29 PM, Jakub Lach wrote: === Starting check for runtime dependencies === Gathering dependency list for archivers/unzip from ports === No dependencies for archivers/unzip === Installing package === Installation of archivers/unzip (unzip-6.0_1) succeeded === Delete unzip60.tar.gz? y/n [n] What option do I need to specify with -y to automatically answer those? Hi -d I've tried --clean-distfiles, --clean-packages but it's not it. It usually happens when doing portmaster --packages-build --delete-build-only build. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
Hi Jakub, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Dean E. Weimer dwei...@dweimer.net wrote: -d tells it to always delete old files without prompting. Thanks, Dean Weimer On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:29 AM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: === Starting check for runtime dependencies === Gathering dependency list for archivers/unzip from ports === No dependencies for archivers/unzip === Installing package === Installation of archivers/unzip (unzip-6.0_1) succeeded === Delete unzip60.tar.gz? y/n [n] What option do I need to specify with -y to automatically answer those? I've tried --clean-distfiles, --clean-packages but it's not it. It usually happens when doing portmaster --packages-build --delete-build-only build. usually I use: portmaster -dbg port -b create and keep a backup package of an installed port -g create a package of the new port -d always clean distfiles Best Regards Iqbal A. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
Excellent, I knew I was missing something simple. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/portmaster-embarrassingly-simple-question-y-option-tp5723878p5723916.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
Now I see that I even used -d in my own portupdating wrapper, but forgot about it and it's meaning, embarrassing. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/portmaster-embarrassingly-simple-question-y-option-tp5723878p5723918.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
On 03/07/2012 13:06, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 07/03/2012 12:29 PM, Jakub Lach wrote: What option do I need to specify with -y to automatically answer those? -d Add this to ${LOCALBASE}/etc/portmaster.rc ALWAYS_SCRUB_DISTFILES=dopt if that's something you're going to be doing all the time. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Sr: questions - desenchufa de todos los kilombos , clases de bachata y salsa
Ven a conocer gente con buena onda = BRJannoy salsa Todos los Jueves Clases de Bachata 20:30 = ;hs Clases de Salsa 21:30hs Av. Corodoba 2988 y Laprida n= bsp; valor $30 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?
On 1/8/11, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: List, Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another command for processing. For example, let's assume we have a command called 'branch' and it copies standard input to the standard input of all arguments. We could use it like this: cat foo.txt | branch '/bin/echo log1.txt' '/bin/echo log2.txt' The first 'cat' would read the file, pass it to our theoretical 'branch' command, which would then start two subprocesses, passing the input to both of them. The result result would be two copies of the file. (Obviously making copies of files is not my primary goal, just an example.) I guess another way of explaining it would be two write the same stdin to two named pipes and then have two different programs read from each pipe, getting the same output. I can probably write something in Python, but thought I'd ask first. Thanks! -Modulok- Thanks guys! I'll look into the tee(1) command as suggested. You guys rock :) -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?
List, Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another command for processing. For example, let's assume we have a command called 'branch' and it copies standard input to the standard input of all arguments. We could use it like this: cat foo.txt | branch '/bin/echo log1.txt' '/bin/echo log2.txt' The first 'cat' would read the file, pass it to our theoretical 'branch' command, which would then start two subprocesses, passing the input to both of them. The result result would be two copies of the file. (Obviously making copies of files is not my primary goal, just an example.) I guess another way of explaining it would be two write the same stdin to two named pipes and then have two different programs read from each pipe, getting the same output. I can probably write something in Python, but thought I'd ask first. Thanks! -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Modulok wrote: Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another command for processing. tee(1)? [snip] -- Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?
Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another command for processing. $ man tee R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?
Modulok writes: Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another command for processing. man tee? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?
On 1/8/11 10:30 PM, Modulok wrote: List, Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another command for processing. Think T, not Y, and then type man tee which I suspect does exactly what you want. -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com
Does this look reasonable (y/n)?
Hello, i have quite a common question i think but my google skills didn't bring up anything decent. If you use binary freebsd-update to upgrade between major releases it starts comparing config files at some point. After the manual merges it start's automerge and asks you: Does this look reasonable (y/n)? for every file. If you answer n freebsd-update bails out (after working for like ages getting patches/files etc.) So wouldn't it be nice to give the user a chance to resolve the merge or at least ask if the user really wants to quit the upgrade. Am i missing something here? regards, leon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Herramientas para la Construccion y Mas - freebsd-questions
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Herramientas para la Construccion y Mas - questions
HERRAMIENTAS PARA LA CONSTRUCCION Y MAS * ANDAMIOS TUBULARES * ACCESORIOS DE SEGURIDAD * CABALLETES EXTENSIBLES * ELEVADOR PARA PLACAS DE DURLOCK O KNAUF * ESCALERAS TIPO BURROS * TORRES DE ELEVACION DE MATERIALES * TRIBUNAS Y GRADAS * CARROS RECOLECTORES * VALLAS CERRAMIENTOS * GUINCHES * PLUMAS * LINEA CARRITOS www.nuevosairesnet.com.ar e mail manunuevosai...@coopenetcolon.com.ar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
Hi, I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache webserver. I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and Parental Controls. For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and the time of day he can use the computer. The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk space. Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? What is available for Parental Controls? Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's hardware? -- Later, Charles ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
i think it could go fine on this computer, use gnome lite and also add the needed ports to have a fairly nice system (gnome-backgrounds etc...). compile from ports with some optimizations (-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing and consider if -pipe could be used or not based on your ram memory). for firefox consider you'll have probably to use also linux compatibility layer with flash (don't know if it's on 6.4) for parental control check this thread in ml: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/152543.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/152728.html regards ocean Charles Howse wrote: Hi, I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache webserver. I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and Parental Controls. For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and the time of day he can use the computer. The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk space. Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? What is available for Parental Controls? Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's hardware? -- Later, Charles ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. -Original Message- From: ocean [mailto:ocean_i...@yahoo.it] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:30 AM To: Charles Howse Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o i think it could go fine on this computer, use gnome lite and also add the needed ports to have a fairly nice system (gnome-backgrounds etc...). compile from ports with some optimizations (-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing and consider if -pipe could be used or not based on your ram memory). for firefox consider you'll have probably to use also linux compatibility layer with flash (don't know if it's on 6.4) for parental control check this thread in ml: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007- June/152543.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007- July/152728.html regards ocean Charles Howse wrote: Hi, I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache webserver. I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and Parental Controls. For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and the time of day he can use the computer. The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk space. Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? What is available for Parental Controls? Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's hardware? -- Later, Charles ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. Please don't top post, thanks. No there is no OOBE w/ flash. To get a reasonable experience with flash, you'll need to upgrade to 8(freebsd update) add in packages compiled for 8(don't forget the libusb stuff) then install flash-10 However if you're only goal is run flash stuff, this is probably not the OS for you. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
-Original Message- From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandem...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:56 AM To: Charles Howse Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. Please don't top post, thanks. My apologies to the group, I forgot. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
2009/12/8 Charles Howse cho...@charter.net -Original Message- From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandem...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:56 AM To: Charles Howse Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. Please don't top post, thanks. My apologies to the group, I forgot. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org you probably also want java as well, a lot of those children's game sites use all kind of horrible stuff. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 gnash could also work but it's known to have some issues so i won't recommend it, possibilities are firefox+flash for windows under wine which someone says it works, or linux emulation and firefox+flash. for parental control there's also the opendns alternative that can block adult sites, though i don't know how good it works. you could also look at this (never tried it, don't know if/how it works): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1803 http://procon.mozdev.org/ also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since you say they only need a few programs, you could go with just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were you will only put the applications they need to run. if there aren't specific problems with drivers and similar, an upgrade to a newer freebsd version could be advisable for flash :) regards ocean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100, ocean ocean_i...@yahoo.it wrote: also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since you say they only need a few programs, you could go with just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were you will only put the applications they need to run. An alternative would be IcecWM: Easily configurable menu, good window managing, no bloat. But I can second XFCE, too. Maybe you want to run XFCE 3 which has some look feel of CDE, is easily configurable and very fast. (I use it on a 300 MHz P2 with similar requirements as you mentioned, but without any Flash). There's a nice dock-like application for X which is used by the FreeSBIE live system CD. I've got no FreeSBIE at hand, nor can I remember the application's name, but I think this would be interesting to you, too. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, ocean wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 Please, not that horrible thread again. Just do what's in the Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html), and Flash 10 works fine with native Firefox on FreeBSD 8. possibilities are firefox+flash for windows under wine which someone says it works, It works well. And the Java plugin works too. The only problem I see with Windows Firefox on Wine is that it takes a double-click to close Firefox windows or tabs. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, ocean wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 Please, not that horrible thread again. Just do what's in the Handbook ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html), and Flash 10 works fine with native Firefox on FreeBSD 8. And Flash 9 works on 7.2 too. Have not had any problems with it yet. regards, usleep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100, ocean ocean_i...@yahoo.it wrote: also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since you say they only need a few programs, you could go with just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were you will only put the applications they need to run. An alternative would be IcecWM: Easily configurable menu, good window managing, no bloat. But I can second XFCE, too. Maybe you want to run XFCE 3 which has some look feel of CDE, is easily configurable and very fast. (I use it on a 300 MHz P2 with similar requirements as you mentioned, but without any Flash). There's a nice dock-like application for X which is used by the FreeSBIE live system CD. I've got no FreeSBIE at hand, nor can I remember the application's name, but I think this would be interesting to you, too. Like Poly I too use XFCE 3 on all my FreeBSD desktops. Its light and fast and anyone can learn it quickly. I have Gnome on a Linux HP netbook and it is a lot slower. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100, ocean ocean_i...@yahoo.it wrote: also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since you say they only need a few programs, you could go with just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were you will only put the applications they need to run. An alternative would be IcecWM: Easily configurable menu, good window managing, no bloat. But I can second XFCE, too. Maybe you want to run XFCE 3 which has some look feel of CDE, is easily configurable and very fast. (I use it on a 300 MHz P2 with similar requirements as you mentioned, but without any Flash). There's a nice dock-like application for X which is used by the FreeSBIE live system CD. I've got no FreeSBIE at hand, nor can I remember the application's name, but I think this would be interesting to you, too. icewm is a nice lightweight wm (which I use) but with your hardware you might want to look at http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/ it's an xfce4 based installation dvd which includes many precompiled package. There are notes for installing flash. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, ocean wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 Please, not that horrible thread again. Just do what's in the Handbook ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html), and Flash 10 works fine with native Firefox on FreeBSD 8. possibilities are firefox+flash for windows under wine which someone says it works, It works well. And the Java plugin works too. The only problem I see with Windows Firefox on Wine is that it takes a double-click to close Firefox windows or tabs. My child like flash games too, and I went with a vbox install as flash10 periodically dumps and hangs when running some of the more exotic flash games. I've seen the same thing happen on linux, but not as much on windows. Java plugin works great very stable but lacking some 3d stuff which makes gaming not as appealing(runescape). -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of krad Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:24 AM To: Charles Howse Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o 2009/12/8 Charles Howse cho...@charter.net -Original Message- From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandem...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:56 AM To: Charles Howse Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. Please don't top post, thanks. My apologies to the group, I forgot. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org you probably also want java as well, a lot of those children's game sites use all kind of horrible stuff. I have an older Power Mac that I've decided to use instead. It's all configured and running well, and I don't use it much anymore since I have Windows 7 Ultimate now on the PC. It's already set up with Parental Controls for the grandson, and has everything the daughter will need as well. Thread closed as far as I am concerned. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` gives error 'no such package `cat /tmp/pkglist` installed for sure you used ' instead of ` Yet that was the error. I did not know there was another type of quote key on the keyboard. The one used in the example is below the Esc key. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org The `` (below your escape key) do command substitution while '' do quoting. This is just FYI :). a great day, v -- network warrior since 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Hello list. I am trying to clean up a system with a LOT of cruft. Is there some argument I could pass to pkg_deinstall that would result in delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z (and obviously their dependancies)? just do pkg_info |cut -f 1 -d /tmp/pkglist edit pkglist and delete lines X, Y and Z do pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` rm /tmp/pkglist ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` gives error 'no such package `cat /tmp/pkglist` installed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` gives error 'no such package `cat /tmp/pkglist` installed for sure you used ' instead of ` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
Wojciech Puchar wrote: ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` gives error 'no such package `cat /tmp/pkglist` installed for sure you used ' instead of ` Yet that was the error. I did not know there was another type of quote key on the keyboard. The one used in the example is below the Esc key. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
Hello list. I am trying to clean up a system with a LOT of cruft. Is there some argument I could pass to pkg_deinstall that would result in delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z (and obviously their dependancies)? Thanks! - Dan Naumov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
Hello list. I am trying to clean up a system with a LOT of cruft. Is there some argument I could pass to pkg_deinstall that would result in delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z (and obviously their dependancies)? just do pkg_info |cut -f 1 -d /tmp/pkglist edit pkglist and delete lines X, Y and Z do pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` rm /tmp/pkglist ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
Thanks a lot, this worked like a charm! - Dan Naumov On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Wojciech Pucharwoj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Hello list. I am trying to clean up a system with a LOT of cruft. Is there some argument I could pass to pkg_deinstall that would result in delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z (and obviously their dependancies)? just do pkg_info |cut -f 1 -d /tmp/pkglist edit pkglist and delete lines X, Y and Z do pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` rm /tmp/pkglist ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ud. elige y decide cuando, cuanto y como...
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konsole and X by Y count?
Well, slowly, slowly, I'm learning about vers 4, KDE. Konsole does not behave like KDE-3, very likely because I'm not clicking on the right options. Maybe one of you can clue me in. First, the size of the Konsole in version?/release? 3 was given by [Size 80 x 47] for example. How do I get that with KDE4/Konsole-4?? tia, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mount -awf, but fsck -y still says no write
I really don't feel like reinstalling tonite. I had a bad powersupply and crashed. Starts up in single user of course, because /var is fubared. In the past a mount -awf then an fsck -y did the trick, but now I get NO WRITE in big letters as the first output from fsck, and it never fixes anything. I tried of course, and I very well can write to /var, so fsck is confused. Other than wiping it, do I have any options? fsck does not have a 'force write' option that I can see. Did I forget some crucial step? It's just a plain old ufs2 drive on the motherboard pata. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mount -awf, but fsck -y still says no write
On 16/07/07, Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't feel like reinstalling tonite. I had a bad powersupply and crashed. Starts up in single user of course, because /var is fubared. In the past a mount -awf then an fsck -y did the trick, but now I get NO WRITE in big letters as the first output from fsck, and it never fixes anything. I tried of course, and I very well can write to /var, so fsck is confused. Other than wiping it, do I have any options? fsck does not have a 'force write' option that I can see. Did I forget some crucial step? It's just a plain old ufs2 drive on the motherboard pata. Don't mount before fsck. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xauth trusted vs ssh -X -Y
Hi list :) is either of 1) having a host added to .Xauthority as trusted, and then doing ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] cmd 2) ssh -X -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] cmd inherintly less secure than the other? (or more prone to becoming an attack vector to MY local computer? thanks! _ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use hammer. IBM maintenance manual, 1975 I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ignorant user overfilled /usr; strange errors followed. Fixed with fsck -y, but what exactly happened?
boink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear FreeBSD, While attempting to follow filesystem activity (and not realising the effect it would have) I left a ktrace running (something like ktrace -di -p0 -ti - seen on a forum while searching for a Filemon equivalent for FreeBSD). I had launched it while in /usr/ports, and forgot about it. Doh! Some time later strange things started happening, so I exited from X/KDE, and found a whole sequence of 'filesystem is full' errors on the console. df said that /usr was at 108%. I found the offending ktrace.out file in /usr/ports (~25GB), killed ktrace, deleted the file, and restarted X/KDE. It took about 5 minutes to show the desktop, following a number of console messages like 'xauth: creating new authority file...' So, I Googled around and found a few hints relating to permissions in ~, but that didn't seem to be the problem; anyway I moved my ~/.kde/ to ~/.kde_20060515 in an attempt to 'reset' kde's startup behaviour, but X/KDE still took ages to start the GUI, following similar messages. Even once X/KDE had started, some applications took a *long* time to start (eg Firefox - 3/4 minutes to show blank home page). However, I could still r/w access all files within /usr. Following the advice found on various fora, I then ran fsck -y in single-user mode, with the following output: ** Last mounted on /usr ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK SALVAGE? yes 401256 files, 4135860 used, 13715938 free (126762 frags, 169-647 blocks, 0,8% fragmentation) Afterwards, X/KDE started with its usual alacrity, so I restored my ~/.kde folder, and now everything seems to be exactly as before. My questions are these: - How could /usr have been at 108%, given that 100% is the logical maximum? Because that *isn't* a given. See the FAQ entry on How is it possible for a partition to be more than 100% full? - Is there any risk that a physically adjacent filesystem be damaged? No. Furthermore, it's unlikely that your /usr was actually damaged, either. Don't run fsck on a live filesystem; of *course* it will always find errors. - How can it be that, immediately following the deletion of /usr/ports/ktrace.out, I still had errors *at all* (prior to the fsck)? See the FAQ entry on The du and df commands show different amounts of disk space available. What is going on? That describes what you probably should have done instead of the fsck. - Given its recent history, can I now trust the integrity of /usr? Probably. But you may have messed it up with the fsck, so just to be sure, go into single-user mode, umount /usr, and fsck it WHILE IT IS NOT MOUNTED. My interpretation of the situation is that following the deletion of /usr/ports/ktrace.out, KDE, on startup, tried to write a file to a filesystem that apparently (although incorrectly) had no free blocks. fsck fixed the problem of the reported free blocks. More or less. But since the kernel's idea of what was on the disk no longer matched reality (i.e., it knew that in reality there *were* no free blocks), you may have gotten into trouble. However, if this interpretation is correct, it shouldn't have worked *at all* until fsck had repaired the filesystem. That is, KDE should not have started at all. That doesn't necessarily follow. So, prior to the fsck -y in single-user mode, what was happening in the five minutes it took KDE to start? I don't know KDE at all, but my guess would be some kind of timeout. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ignorant user overfilled /usr; strange errors followed. Fixed with fsck -y, but what exactly happened?
On 18/05/06, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: boink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 8... My questions are these: - How could /usr have been at 108%, given that 100% is the logical maximum? Because that *isn't* a given. See the FAQ entry on How is it possible for a partition to be more than 100% full? - Is there any risk that a physically adjacent filesystem be damaged? No. Furthermore, it's unlikely that your /usr was actually damaged, either. Don't run fsck on a live filesystem; of *course* it will always find errors. - How can it be that, immediately following the deletion of /usr/ports/ktrace.out, I still had errors *at all* (prior to the fsck)? See the FAQ entry on The du and df commands show different amounts of disk space available. What is going on? That describes what you probably should have done instead of the fsck. - Given its recent history, can I now trust the integrity of /usr? Probably. But you may have messed it up with the fsck, so just to be sure, go into single-user mode, umount /usr, and fsck it WHILE IT IS NOT MOUNTED. My interpretation of the situation is that following the deletion of /usr/ports/ktrace.out, KDE, on startup, tried to write a file to a filesystem that apparently (although incorrectly) had no free blocks. fsck fixed the problem of the reported free blocks. More or less. But since the kernel's idea of what was on the disk no longer matched reality (i.e., it knew that in reality there *were* no free blocks), you may have gotten into trouble. However, if this interpretation is correct, it shouldn't have worked *at all* until fsck had repaired the filesystem. That is, KDE should not have started at all. That doesn't necessarily follow. So, prior to the fsck -y in single-user mode, what was happening in the five minutes it took KDE to start? I don't know KDE at all, but my guess would be some kind of timeout. Lowell, Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I omitted to mention that I had rebooted into single user mode prior to running fsck, so /usr was not in fact mounted when fsck was run. The du/df FAQ is interesting, and non-obvious, as is FAQ 9.26. (How is it possible for a partition to be more than 100% full?), which explains why the quoted disk usage was 108%. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html. Thanks again, boink ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ignorant user overfilled /usr; strange errors followed. Fixed with fsck -y, but what exactly happened?
Dear FreeBSD, While attempting to follow filesystem activity (and not realising the effect it would have) I left a ktrace running (something like ktrace -di -p0 -ti - seen on a forum while searching for a Filemon equivalent for FreeBSD). I had launched it while in /usr/ports, and forgot about it. Doh! Some time later strange things started happening, so I exited from X/KDE, and found a whole sequence of 'filesystem is full' errors on the console. df said that /usr was at 108%. I found the offending ktrace.out file in /usr/ports (~25GB), killed ktrace, deleted the file, and restarted X/KDE. It took about 5 minutes to show the desktop, following a number of console messages like 'xauth: creating new authority file...' So, I Googled around and found a few hints relating to permissions in ~, but that didn't seem to be the problem; anyway I moved my ~/.kde/ to ~/.kde_20060515 in an attempt to 'reset' kde's startup behaviour, but X/KDE still took ages to start the GUI, following similar messages. Even once X/KDE had started, some applications took a *long* time to start (eg Firefox - 3/4 minutes to show blank home page). However, I could still r/w access all files within /usr. Following the advice found on various fora, I then ran fsck -y in single-user mode, with the following output: ** Last mounted on /usr ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK SALVAGE? yes 401256 files, 4135860 used, 13715938 free (126762 frags, 169-647 blocks, 0,8% fragmentation) Afterwards, X/KDE started with its usual alacrity, so I restored my ~/.kde folder, and now everything seems to be exactly as before. My questions are these: - How could /usr have been at 108%, given that 100% is the logical maximum? - Is there any risk that a physically adjacent filesystem be damaged? - How can it be that, immediately following the deletion of /usr/ports/ktrace.out, I still had errors *at all* (prior to the fsck)? - Given its recent history, can I now trust the integrity of /usr? My interpretation of the situation is that following the deletion of /usr/ports/ktrace.out, KDE, on startup, tried to write a file to a filesystem that apparently (although incorrectly) had no free blocks. fsck fixed the problem of the reported free blocks. However, if this interpretation is correct, it shouldn't have worked *at all* until fsck had repaired the filesystem. That is, KDE should not have started at all. So, prior to the fsck -y in single-user mode, what was happening in the five minutes it took KDE to start? Sorry if this whole description was long and convoluted, but I'd really appreciate a few hints as to what went on. With thanks in advance for any illumination, boink PS. Henceforth, I promise not to let commands I don't understand fill up my filesystems :o/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Requiring Manual FSCK -y
It seems that my FBSD 6.1 machines are requiring a shell and manual fsck -y after a kernel panic and dump. Is there any way to automate this so that I don't have to get the guys at the datacenter to do it for me? -- Wil Hatfield ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Requiring Manual FSCK -y
On Monday 08 May 2006 17:19, Wil Hatfield wrote: It seems that my FBSD 6.1 machines are requiring a shell and manual fsck -y after a kernel panic and dump. Is there any way to automate this so that I don't have to get the guys at the datacenter to do it for me? %grep fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf fsck_y_enable=NO # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen fails. background_fsck=YES # Attempt to run fsck in the background where possible. background_fsck_delay=60 # Time to wait (seconds) before starting the fsck. The first one is the one you want. See also the rc.conf(5) manpage. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Requiring Manual FSCK -y
background_fsck=YES Perfect thank you. -- Wil Hatfield ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Teclas Mayor que y Menor que
Hola. Tengo un problema con el teclado español de FreeBSD 6.1 beta, y es que la tecla donde estan los simbolos mayor que y menor que no funciona en el KDE 3.5.1 (en consola si que funciona)... ¿Algun tip de alguien que ya haya solucionado esto, por favor?. Muchísimas gracias. Jose. -- http://www.lordofunix.org/ Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. Usuario BSD registrado 51101. Usuario Linux registrado #213309. Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, para defender lo que fue. y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Teclas Mayor que y Menor que
El día Thursday, March 30, 2006 a las 06:10:22PM +0200, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez escribió: Hola. Tengo un problema con el teclado español de FreeBSD 6.1 beta, y es que la tecla donde estan los simbolos mayor que y menor que no funciona en el KDE 3.5.1 (en consola si que funciona)... ¿Algun tip de alguien que ya haya solucionado esto, por favor?. Pues, lanza la herramienta 'xev', dale el focus y comprueba si la teclas al macar y al saltar producen eventos. You may launch 'xev' and check if the key on stroke and release are producing X-events. Muchísimas gracias. Da nada, ero mejor que preguntes acá en inglés. Better you ask here in english matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/~guru/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Teclas Mayor que y Menor que
On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 18:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El día Thursday, March 30, 2006 a las 06:10:22PM +0200, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez escribió: Hola. Tengo un problema con el teclado español de FreeBSD 6.1 beta, y es que la tecla donde estan los simbolos mayor que y menor que no funciona en el KDE 3.5.1 (en consola si que funciona)... ¿Algun tip de alguien que ya haya solucionado esto, por favor?. Pues, lanza la herramienta 'xev', dale el focus y comprueba si la teclas al macar y al saltar producen eventos. You may launch 'xev' and check if the key on stroke and release are producing X-events. Muchísimas gracias. Da nada, ero mejor que preguntes acá en inglés. Better you ask here in english matthias Sorry for the wrong send. It was for the spanish list. A kind user in that list help me and the problem is solved: xmodmap -e keycode 94=less greater Thanks very much to you, Matthias, guru. Best regards. Jose. -- http://www.lordofunix.org/ Usuario GNU/Hurd no registrado. Usuario BSD registrado 51101. Usuario Linux registrado #213309. Una vez más cabalgaré con mis caballeros, para defender lo que fue. y el sueño de lo que pudo ser. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
automatic fsck -y at boot
Hello, This is the first time I'm asking for help because all my other problems were solved by the handbook or other e-mails. The question is how can i make freebsd to AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT (fsck -y not just fsck) the inconsistency of a HD at boot time after a power failure. After a non clean shutdown I always have a problem with the /var partition (because the squid cache is there) it always corrects with the fsck -y in single mode manually but the problem is that the server is located in a basement where the access is not very easy especially when raining :( The server is a P4 3Ghz 1Gb ram OS: Freebsd 5.4 Role: Router, DHCPD, DNS, NAT, Firewall, Proxy, SMBD Thanks Kyriakos Kyriakou Xanthi, Greece ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic fsck -y at boot
kyr wrote: Hello, This is the first time I'm asking for help because all my other problems were solved by the handbook or other e-mails. The question is how can i make freebsd to AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT (fsck -y not just fsck) the inconsistency of a HD at boot time after a power failure. After a non clean shutdown I always have a problem with the /var partition (because the squid cache is there) it always corrects with the fsck -y in single mode manually but the problem is that the server is located in a basement where the access is not very easy especially when raining :( Put in your /etc/rc.conf: fsck_y_enable=YES Gabor Kovesdan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic fsck -y at boot
/etc/rc.conf: fsck_y_enable=YES I personally use these: fsck_y_enable=YES background_fsck=NO At 12:14 PM 10/17/2005, kyr wrote: Hello, This is the first time I'm asking for help because all my other problems were solved by the handbook or other e-mails. The question is how can i make freebsd to AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT (fsck -y not just fsck) the inconsistency of a HD at boot time after a power failure. After a non clean shutdown I always have a problem with the /var partition (because the squid cache is there) it always corrects with the fsck -y in single mode manually but the problem is that the server is located in a basement where the access is not very easy especially when raining :( The server is a P4 3Ghz 1Gb ram OS: Freebsd 5.4 Role: Router, DHCPD, DNS, NAT, Firewall, Proxy, SMBD Thanks Kyriakos Kyriakou Xanthi, Greece ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- J.D. Bronson Information Services Telecommunications Site Support Aurora Health Care - Milwaukee, Wisconsin Office: 414.978.8282 // Fax: 414.977.5299 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic fsck -y at boot
kyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is how can i make freebsd to AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT (fsck -y not just fsck) the inconsistency of a HD at boot time after a power failure. Put the following two lines in /etc/rc.conf: fsck_y_enable=YES background_fsck=NO -- Christian Laursen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use of -Y in ssh
I'm looking for information on ssh. What I want to understand is the difference between -Y and -X. The man page for ssh simply says: -Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding. Does anyone have any pointers to docs that better explain the difference between -Y and -X, I'd like to better understand the security risks that may be involved. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use of -Y in ssh
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for information on ssh. What I want to understand is the difference between -Y and -X. The man page for ssh simply says: -Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding. Does anyone have any pointers to docs that better explain the difference between -Y and -X, I'd like to better understand the security risks that may be involved. See the ForwardX11Trusted option in ssh_config(5). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Update Kde 3.x to 3.y
Hi, I'm new to the list and I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I am using kde 3.1 and I've read heaps of stuff on the internet but none really helped. How can I update my kde 3.1 to kde 3.2.3 using cvsup? thx Leandro -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.bsdmail.com Powered by Outblaze ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update Kde 3.x to 3.y
On Monday 06 September 2004 06:36 pm, Leandro Malaquias wrote: I'm new to the list and I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I am using kde 3.1 and I've read heaps of stuff on the internet but none really helped. How can I update my kde 3.1 to kde 3.2.3 using cvsup? You probably want to upgrade to KDE 3.3, as this is the latest version. First get the latest ports directory by using cvsup on your ports-supfile. If you don't have one, look at the example in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile. Then read the 20040830 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Normally when you upgrade ports you would just use the helpful portupgrade program (in sysutils/portupgrade), but this particular upgrade is an exception, and there are some additional steps. Follow the directions in UPDATING and you should be fine. -David -- +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot. +++ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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