Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 10/12/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE? Intro to XFCE: http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overviewlang=en Here are some flash based demos: http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCEstype=all After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop environment type in echo /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc. the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Thanks for the pointers! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On 10/15/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 10/12/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE? Intro to XFCE: http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overviewlang=en Here are some flash based demos: http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCEstype=all After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop environment type in echo /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc. the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Thanks for the pointers! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Hi Gary, I'm running Xfce4 over here on Slackware, and there are no problems firing up KDE apps as needed. A neat thing if you have python aboard is the MenuMaker script http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/ , | MenuMaker is utility written entirely in Python that scans through the | system for installed programs and generates menu for specified X window | manager. It is by far more superior to existing solutions in terms of | knowledge base size, maintainability and extensibility, and has a number | of features that have no counterparts in its class. MenuMaker is intended | for users of lightweight *NIX graphical desktop environments. ` But it will scoop up all your KDE and Gnome apps too :-) It certainly beats churning out menus by hand! It works with Fluxbox, openbox, Icewm, Windowmaker, Xfce and Xfce4... Good luck Glyn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On 2005-10-14 21:08, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. Hehe! I tend to use XFCE even on my fast ones :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:06:30 +0400 Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. Actually Fluxbox is blackbox based. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:57:10 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Yeah, it will work. Gnome and KDE just use plain old X for graphics. Meaning you can easily mix and match it to your needs. The difference between them is toolkits used to achieve the same thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On 10/15/05, Vulpes Velox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:06:30 +0400 Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. Actually Fluxbox is blackbox based. Yes, indeed. But Fluxbox/Blackbox graphics implementation is still very similar to that of WM. I should've said WM-like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:36:32 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Gnome has slightly better response, but still slow. Two questions: is there a way I can add KSayIt to run under Gnome? Like, what file do I hand edit? I'm rebuilding our own mozilla right now so the screen is very slow with KDE. I don't even know if KSayIt is there. Second question: as its default, firefox uses mplayer for both real and windows audio streams. Why and can I chance at least the Real Audio to use /usr/local/bin/realplay? Both players sound terrible. At least they play, but in windows audio mode, the stream hiccups about every 1.5 seconds; when it plays in real mode, the audio is garbled; it sounds like two or three people talking over one another. ((If anybody know what's going n, please clue me in!! ...but I think this is just one of those cosmic mysteries)) Oh: I brought up linux-mozilla under Gnome, pointed audio/x-pn-realaudio at realplay; it works except that the audio quivers. With ctwm, I can nice apps down; with user-friendly window mangers, things are hidden away. Anyway. If anybody knows how to add other KDE apps to the default, and how I can fix firefox to point to realplay, I would appreciate it. BTW what version of FreeBSD are you running on it? Mine had problems till a update done some time after 5.4. Had something to do with cpu cx states, acpi, or something like that, that my audio worked nicely. Previously it had to be on at cx 1 to work properly. It works properly at others now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:06:30PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: On 10/15/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 10/12/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE? Intro to XFCE: http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overviewlang=en Here are some flash based demos: http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCEstype=all After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop environment type in echo /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc. the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Thanks for the pointers! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. You know, what I'd like my wm to be able to do is set whatever app (say xload) /usr/bin/nice -n -17 xload -g 50x90+0+0 so that I'll be able to nice it down to some low value, control the placing and size of the app, and so on. I assume that Gnome/KDE (and their light versions) have some ~user/.* XML files where things are tuned, but grep -r .* hasn't found anything ... Is there/Where is the files that list the apps so that I can set up things and season-to-my-tastes? For me, functioality is more imortant than how pretty things look. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Oct 15, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:06:30PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: On 10/15/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 10/12/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE? Intro to XFCE: http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overviewlang=en Here are some flash based demos: http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCEstype=all After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop environment type in echo /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc. the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11- wm.html I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Thanks for the pointers! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. You know, what I'd like my wm to be able to do is set whatever app (say xload) /usr/bin/nice -n -17 xload -g 50x90+0+0 so that I'll be able to nice it down to some low value, control the placing and size of the app, and so on. I assume that Gnome/KDE (and their light versions) have some ~user/.* XML files where things are tuned, but grep -r .* hasn't found anything ... Is there/Where is the files that list the apps so that I can set up things and season-to-my-tastes? For me, functioality is more imortant than how pretty things look. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix You should be able to accomplish that via fluxbox the best since it lists all of the programs out in an XML file (I know I'm reaching a bit since I haven't used fluxbox in a while), somewhere in ~/.fluxbox/[something]. Also, you could setup aliases in ~/.bash_alias (see alias syntax with man alias) for your more common programs; I know it's just patching the problem, but it should do the trick. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 09:51:44AM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware and Gnome suites too? Hi Gary, I'm running Xfce4 over here on Slackware, and there are no problems firing up KDE apps as needed. A neat thing if you have python aboard is the MenuMaker script http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/ , | MenuMaker is utility written entirely in Python that scans through the | system for installed programs and generates menu for specified X window | manager. It is by far more superior to existing solutions in terms of | knowledge base size, maintainability and extensibility, and has a number | of features that have no counterparts in its class. MenuMaker is intended | for users of lightweight *NIX graphical desktop environments. ` But it will scoop up all your KDE and Gnome apps too :-) It certainly beats churning out menus by hand! It works with Fluxbox, openbox, Icewm, Windowmaker, Xfce and Xfce4... Thanks for the tip. This sounds worth checking into. Be nice ' if I can tell menumaker to include things like rclock and asam; and whatever generic, non-wm-specific apps too. Ok, from the online docs, it looks like this script works best with xfce4. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:23:58PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:36:32 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, Oh: I brought up linux-mozilla under Gnome, pointed audio/x-pn-realaudio at realplay; it works except that the audio quivers. With ctwm, I can nice apps down; with user-friendly window mangers, things are hidden away. Anyway. If anybody knows how to add other KDE apps to the default, and how I can fix firefox to point to realplay, I would appreciate it. BTW what version of FreeBSD are you running on it? Mine had problems till a update done some time after 5.4. Had something to do with cpu cx states, acpi, or something like that, that my audio worked nicely. Previously it had to be on at cx 1 to work properly. It works properly at others now. I'm running 5.3 everywhere except for my Ubuntu server. No need/reason to move to v 6.X as far as I'm concerned. I may not have moved over the new linuxpluginwrapper file to /etc. I can't think of any other reason that mplayer would hang after every 1+ sec or that realplay would sound off/quiver/echo. But: before I go and change wm's and wind up with something that just doesn't work, there's lots of testing to do. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:57:05 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:23:58PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:36:32 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, Oh: I brought up linux-mozilla under Gnome, pointed audio/x-pn-realaudio at realplay; it works except that the audio quivers. With ctwm, I can nice apps down; with user-friendly window mangers, things are hidden away. Anyway. If anybody knows how to add other KDE apps to the default, and how I can fix firefox to point to realplay, I would appreciate it. BTW what version of FreeBSD are you running on it? Mine had problems till a update done some time after 5.4. Had something to do with cpu cx states, acpi, or something like that, that my audio worked nicely. Previously it had to be on at cx 1 to work properly. It works properly at others now. I'm running 5.3 everywhere except for my Ubuntu server. No need/reason to move to v 6.X as far as I'm concerned. I may not have moved over the new linuxpluginwrapper file to /etc. I can't think of any other reason that mplayer would hang after every 1+ sec or that realplay would sound off/quiver/echo. But: before I go and change wm's and wind up with something that just doesn't work, there's lots of testing to do. I would suggest cvsuping to the newest 5.x. I had problems with one of the older versions of 5.x on my laptop till it was fixed in one of the commits. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On 10/15/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, what I'd like my wm to be able to do is set whatever app (say xload) /usr/bin/nice -n -17 xload -g 50x90+0+0 so that I'll be able to nice it down to some low value, control the placing and size of the app, and so on. I assume that Gnome/KDE (and their light versions) have some ~user/.* XML files where things are tuned, but grep -r .* hasn't found anything ... Is there/Where is the files that list the apps so that I can set up things and season-to-my-tastes? For me, functioality is more imortant than how pretty things look. The bizarrely-named 'devilspie' will handle window location, sizing, pinning, and the default workspace assignment (in case you don't want it pinned). It doesn't handle nicing, however. It works fine with devilspie. I expect it will work OK with KDE or twm too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 08:30:56PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:57:05 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:23:58PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:36:32 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, Oh: I brought up linux-mozilla under Gnome, pointed audio/x-pn-realaudio at realplay; it works except that the audio quivers. With ctwm, I can nice apps down; with user-friendly window mangers, things are hidden away. Anyway. If anybody knows how to add other KDE apps to the default, and how I can fix firefox to point to realplay, I would appreciate it. BTW what version of FreeBSD are you running on it? Mine had problems till a update done some time after 5.4. Had something to do with cpu cx states, acpi, or something like that, that my audio worked nicely. Previously it had to be on at cx 1 to work properly. It works properly at others now. I'm running 5.3 everywhere except for my Ubuntu server. No need/reason to move to v 6.X as far as I'm concerned. I may not have moved over the new linuxpluginwrapper file to /etc. I can't think of any other reason that mplayer would hang after every 1+ sec or that realplay would sound off/quiver/echo. But: before I go and change wm's and wind up with something that just doesn't work, there's lots of testing to do. I would suggest cvsuping to the newest 5.x. I had problems with one of the older versions of 5.x on my laptop till it was fixed in one of the commits. Underway. I always read UPGRADING nowadays, but if there are any recent gotchas, please drop a line. I've got a week before I more/less vanish into studyland for a few months. The more I can get done now, the happier, c. thanks, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On Thursday 13 October 2005 00:36, Gary Kline wrote: Second question: as its default, firefox uses mplayer for both real and windows audio streams. Why and can I chance at least the Real Audio to use /usr/local/bin/realplay? I use an extension for firefox which let me choose which program i want to use for different types of movies audio etc called MediaPlayer Connectivity. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxid=446 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interesting past 4 hours...
On 10/12/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE? Intro to XFCE: http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overviewlang=en Here are some flash based demos: http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCEstype=all After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop environment type in echo /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4 ~/.xinitrc. the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
interesting past 4 hours...
This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all eye-candy. Gnome has slightly better response, but still slow. Two questions: is there a way I can add KSayIt to run under Gnome? Like, what file do I hand edit? I'm rebuilding our own mozilla right now so the screen is very slow with KDE. I don't even know if KSayIt is there. Second question: as its default, firefox uses mplayer for both real and windows audio streams. Why and can I chance at least the Real Audio to use /usr/local/bin/realplay? Both players sound terrible. At least they play, but in windows audio mode, the stream hiccups about every 1.5 seconds; when it plays in real mode, the audio is garbled; it sounds like two or three people talking over one another. ((If anybody know what's going n, please clue me in!! ...but I think this is just one of those cosmic mysteries)) Oh: I brought up linux-mozilla under Gnome, pointed audio/x-pn-realaudio at realplay; it works except that the audio quivers. With ctwm, I can nice apps down; with user-friendly window mangers, things are hidden away. Anyway. If anybody knows how to add other KDE apps to the default, and how I can fix firefox to point to realplay, I would appreciate it. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
