Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:41:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700, Gary Kline  wrote:
> > I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a 
> > wav123, an au123, &c? :_)  wait, I just checked and there *is* a
> > flac123.    i'll be [bleeped].  
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> > ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no
> > front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing
> > with it, I never used it.  I've got gxmms2 working on my linux
> > desktopk, but it only works locally.  How do I use [gx]mms2 
> > to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the
> > playlist here and play thru my better speakers?
> > 
> > I had imagined something like:
> > 
> > %  xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ 
> > 
> > where the -r would indicate "remote" ... 
> 
> Re xmms2 Miniprod malquoted operations. :-)
> 
> Because I haven't installed xmms2 on my system, I'm not 100 percent
> sure, but according to http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page
> it seems that you have to run xmms2 on the box that holds your files
> (server) and control the program's operations via the computer with
> the better speakers (client) by means of an xmms2 client application.
> 
>   http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Using_the_application
> 
> A daemonic concept. =^_^=
> 


nEat that these guys have a wiki page!  it just makes learning
hte fine-grain details so much easier.  I was just out downing a
couple cups of coffee and did install the *xmms2* stuff on my 
to-be music server.  I come back, read your mail, and now am
browsing the xmms2 wiki pages.  It'll take a couple hours to get
the configuration done, but then, hey, i'm home free and clear:_)

thankee,

gary

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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700, Gary Kline  wrote:
>   I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a 
>   wav123, an au123, &c? :_)  wait, I just checked and there *is* a
>   flac123.    i'll be [bleeped].  

:-)


>   ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no
>   front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing
>   with it, I never used it.  I've got gxmms2 working on my linux
>   desktopk, but it only works locally.  How do I use [gx]mms2 
>   to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the
>   playlist here and play thru my better speakers?
> 
>   I had imagined something like:
> 
>   %  xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ 
> 
>   where the -r would indicate "remote" ... 

Re xmms2 Miniprod malquoted operations. :-)

Because I haven't installed xmms2 on my system, I'm not 100 percent
sure, but according to http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page
it seems that you have to run xmms2 on the box that holds your files
(server) and control the program's operations via the computer with
the better speakers (client) by means of an xmms2 client application.

http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Using_the_application

A daemonic concept. =^_^=



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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01:42PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700, Gary Kline  wrote:
> > Be great to have some
> > utimate setup (*sigh...*). 
> 
> You'll never have. At the moment you've setup something, just
> after bringing it home from the shop, it will be considered
> outdated, and there's already something new on the way that's
> completely incompatible with everything you have. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> > For now, what Wojciech suggested
> > works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123
> > may not be sufficient.
> 
> How about ogg123 then? Same use.
> 
>   % cat oggfiles | rsh -l username remote.computer.name "ogg123 -"
> 
> 
> 
> > ``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction!
> 
> Check /usr/ports/audio/xmms2, found out by
> 
>   % cd /usr/ports
>   % make search name=xmms2


I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a 
wav123, an au123, &c? :_)  wait, I just checked and there *is* a
flac123.    i'll be [bleeped].  

ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no
front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing
with it, I never used it.  I've got gxmms2 working on my linux
desktopk, but it only works locally.  How do I use [gx]mms2 
to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the
playlist here and play thru my better speakers?

I had imagined something like:

%  xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ 

where the -r would indicate "remote" ... 


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> 
> 
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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700, Gary Kline  wrote:
> Be great to have some
>   utimate setup (*sigh...*). 

You'll never have. At the moment you've setup something, just
after bringing it home from the shop, it will be considered
outdated, and there's already something new on the way that's
completely incompatible with everything you have. :-)



> For now, what Wojciech suggested
>   works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123
>   may not be sufficient.

How about ogg123 then? Same use.

% cat oggfiles | rsh -l username remote.computer.name "ogg123 -"



>   ``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction!

Check /usr/ports/audio/xmms2, found out by

% cd /usr/ports
% make search name=xmms2




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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:50:27PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:17:44PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > > >This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively]
> > > >simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a
> > > >remote computer (say, 25m apart)  and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on
> > > >the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in
> > > >my office?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -"
> > 
> > Well, that's simple enough:) plus being pretty sharp because it
> > works.  "mplayer -" works from the cmd line but tries and fails
> > to seek backward to the origin.  
> 
> Have you looked at audio/xmms2? It uses a client/server model but is
> audio only. [http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page]
> 
> Other possibilities is a UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) server and
> clients. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPnP_AV_MediaServers]
> 
> Some modern stereo equipment (e.g. Philips Streamium) has ethernet/WiFi
> capability and can play material from a UPnP media server. So you could
> have your music/video library on a server, with your stereo playing
> music from that library over a wireless link. Cool eh?
> 
> I'm not sure if these things fall in the "simple" category, though. :-)
> Especially if there's wifi involved as well.


Wow.  No wifi yet; still have a maze of cables.  My stereo stuff
in from the last century:-) but it's nice to know that the newer
equipment has ethernet capabilities.  Be great to have some
utimate setup (*sigh...*).  For now, what Wojciech suggested
works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123
may not be sufficient.

``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction!

T.Y.

gary


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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:17:44PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > >This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively]
> > >simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a
> > >remote computer (say, 25m apart)  and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on
> > >the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in
> > >my office?
> > 
> > 
> > cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -"
> 
>   Well, that's simple enough:) plus being pretty sharp because it
>   works.  "mplayer -" works from the cmd line but tries and fails
>   to seek backward to the origin.  

Have you looked at audio/xmms2? It uses a client/server model but is
audio only. [http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page]

Other possibilities is a UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) server and
clients. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPnP_AV_MediaServers]

Some modern stereo equipment (e.g. Philips Streamium) has ethernet/WiFi
capability and can play material from a UPnP media server. So you could
have your music/video library on a server, with your stereo playing
music from that library over a wireless link. Cool eh?

I'm not sure if these things fall in the "simple" category, though. :-)
Especially if there's wifi involved as well.

Roland
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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively]
> >simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a
> >remote computer (say, 25m apart)  and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on
> >the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in
> >my office?
> 
> 
> cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -"

Well, that's simple enough:) plus being pretty sharp because it
works.  "mplayer -" works from the cmd line but tries and fails
to seek backward to the origin.  

thanks much,

gary


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Re: networked audio

2009-03-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar

This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively]
simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a
remote computer (say, 25m apart)  and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on
the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in
my office?



cat mp3files|rsh -l username remote.computer.name "mpg123 -"
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Re: networked audio

2009-03-22 Thread Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:31:00 +0200, Gary Kline  wrote:



The only suite I tried was NAS but that was years ago.  I've found "MuSe"
and "NMM" on both FreeBSD and Linux, but still need some clues.


I use samba (a bit tricky but it can be done). Wanted to use NFS but  
unfortunatelly I couldn't get any NFS clients working on xp 64. On other  
unix/linux system it works incredibly great (astonishing great even).


If it were up to me I would choose NFS over Samba and any other similar  
app because:


1) It's idioticly simple to set up
2) Unbelivable performance
3) Accomodates windows, unix and linux (the latter 2 have native suport  
for it; tryed solaris 10, freebsd, openbsd, slackware, fedora, vector, and  
the list can continue; some big problems on xp64; moderate problems on  
xp32)

4) Less buggy the samba
5) Easyer to configure/maintain
etc...


Personally am not so fond of icecast and similar apps because it's so much  
easyer to have 1 app doing all you need. Let me explain here. Wioth NFS I  
mount (in Windows) a share under a letter and set it to automount every  
login. It's so much easyer to have full access to that share as if it were  
a local partition then having 1 app for winamp, another for file sharing,  
another for god-knows what else, and so on. But then again, that's just me  
:)



Best regards,
Claudius
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Re: networked audio

2009-03-22 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Gary Kline  wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively]
> simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a
> remote computer (say, 25m apart)  and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on
> the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in
> my office?
>
> The only suite I tried was NAS but that was years ago.  I've found "MuSe"
> and "NMM" on both FreeBSD and Linux, but still need some clues.
>

Perhaps icecast or musicpd are what you're looking for.

HTH.


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networked audio

2009-03-22 Thread Gary Kline

Guys, 

This ought to be a fast, binary question: are there any [relatively] 
simple ways to set up a utility to play sounds [or sound+video] on a
remote computer (say, 25m apart)  and have the mp3/au/wav/ogg files on
the distant computer and the audio play thru the nice speaker system in
my office?  

The only suite I tried was NAS but that was years ago.  I've found "MuSe"
and "NMM" on both FreeBSD and Linux, but still need some clues.

thanks in advance,

gary



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