Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-09-09 Thread dweimer
On 08/16/2013 8:49 am, dweimer wrote: On 08/15/2013 10:00 am, dweimer wrote: On 08/14/2013 9:43 pm, Shane Ambler wrote: On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-09-09 Thread Shane Ambler
On 09/09/2013 22:38, dweimer wrote: A quick update on this, in case anyone else runs into it, I did finally try on the 2nd of this month to delete my UFS volume, and create a new ZFS volume to replace it. I recreated the Squid cache directories and let squid start over building up cache. So

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-16 Thread dweimer
On 08/15/2013 10:00 am, dweimer wrote: On 08/14/2013 9:43 pm, Shane Ambler wrote: On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-15 Thread dweimer
On 08/14/2013 9:43 pm, Shane Ambler wrote: On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed. This has been working great but all

ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-14 Thread dweimer
I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed. This has been working great but all of the sudden one of my systems has stopped working. It takes the snapshots fine, zfs

Re: ZFS Snapshots Not able to be accessed under .zfs/snapshot/name

2013-08-14 Thread Shane Ambler
On 14/08/2013 22:57, dweimer wrote: I have a few systems running on ZFS with a backup script that creates snapshots, then backs up the .zfs/snapshot/name directory to make sure open files are not missed. This has been working great but all of the sudden one of my systems has stopped working

Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-23 Thread timp
Has been fixed, but you need to understand release engineering better than me if you want the fix now. Fixed? What did you mean? SUJ and snapshots still doesn't work together. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/FreeBSD-9-0-Snapshots-tp5585872p5589250.html

Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-23 Thread Dale Scott
). For me, I'm following RELEASE and I'm just going to wait until it appears. Dale - Original Message - From: timp tim...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:03:37 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots Has been fixed, but you need to understand

Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-23 Thread Pavel Timofeev
I saw it and I don't understand why Kirk wrote 'fixed' because latest CURRENT prints warning message like 'SUJ doesn't work with snapshots' 23.03.2012 19:05 пользователь Dale Scott dalesc...@shaw.ca написал: See PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/161674 (This bug was fixed

Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Pavel Timofeev tim...@gmail.com wrote: I saw it and I don't understand why Kirk wrote 'fixed' because latest CURRENT prints warning message like 'SUJ doesn't work with snapshots' It could be the warning message had been overlooked or indeed there is reason

FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-22 Thread Dean E. Weimer
Has anyone been using Snapshots on UFS with journaled soft-updates enabled? I have a couple of new systems built after 9.0 came out, my backup scripts take snapshots, and then mount them to backup the files, the couple older servers that I upgraded from 8.2 to 9.0 from source are not having

Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-22 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Dean E. Weimer wrote: Has anyone been using Snapshots on UFS with journaled soft-updates enabled? I have a couple of new systems built after 9.0 came out, my backup scripts take snapshots, and then mount them to backup the files, the couple older servers that I upgraded from 8.2 to 9.0 from

Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots

2012-03-22 Thread Dale Scott
@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:28:25 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0 Snapshots Dean E. Weimer wrote: Has anyone been using Snapshots on UFS with journaled soft-updates enabled? I have a couple of new systems built after 9.0 came out, my backup scripts take snapshots, and then mount them

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-06 Thread krad
, on my system, then has a 'snapshot' directory, which holds all the snapshots.) Daniel T. Staal No such luck. The following: cd / ls -R | grep -i zfs finds only 'zfs' directories in the source tree and ports. Other ideas? I know the snapshots exist, I can see

Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Gene
Hi All: Using FreeBSD 8.1, amd64 - I wanted to recover files from a snapshot of usr/home. Everything I've found via googling refers to a link such as path/zfs/.snapshot However, I'll be darned if I can find any such link. Snapshots existing are: NAME USED

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 05/09/2011 14:13, Gene wrote: Either 1) I'm looking in all the wrong places, 2) the link was somehow deleted, 3) ZFS has changed TWTAD (the way things are done). Can anyone point me in the right direction? ZFS snapshots automount themselves when you cd to the snapshot directory

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Gene
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:22:45 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote On 05/09/2011 14:13, Gene wrote: Either 1) I'm looking in all the wrong places, 2) the link was somehow deleted, 3) ZFS has changed TWTAD (the way things are done). Can anyone point me in the right direction? ZFS snapshots

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Gene
--As for the rest, it is mine. Try path/.zfs. ;) (Which, on my system, then has a 'snapshot' directory, which holds all the snapshots.) Daniel T. Staal No such luck. The following: cd / ls -R | grep -i zfs finds only 'zfs' directories in the source tree and ports. Other ideas? I

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Staal
. Everything I've found via googling refers to a link such as path/zfs/.snapshot --As for the rest, it is mine. Try path/.zfs. ;) (Which, on my system, then has a 'snapshot' directory, which holds all the snapshots.) Daniel T. Staal No such luck. The following: cd / ls -R | grep -i zfs finds

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Gene
- I wanted to recover files from a snapshot of usr/home. Everything I've found via googling refers to a link such as path/zfs/.snapshot --As for the rest, it is mine. Try path/.zfs. ;) (Which, on my system, then has a 'snapshot' directory, which holds all the snapshots

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Rolf Nielsen
such as path/zfs/.snapshot --As for the rest, it is mine. Try path/.zfs. ;) (Which, on my system, then has a 'snapshot' directory, which holds all the snapshots.) Daniel T. Staal No such luck. The following: cd / ls -R | grep -i zfs finds only 'zfs' directories in the source tree

Re: Help Finding ZFS snapshots

2011-09-05 Thread Carl Johnson
refers to a link such as path/zfs/.snapshot --As for the rest, it is mine. Try path/.zfs. ;) (Which, on my system, then has a 'snapshot' directory, which holds all the snapshots.) Daniel T. Staal No such luck. The following: cd / ls -R | grep -i zfs finds only 'zfs

daily snapshots updated (Was: Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots)

2011-08-15 Thread Hiroki Sato
Test Rat ttse...@gmail.com wrote in 86y5z1ymyi@gmail.com: tt Can you add architecture name to HEAD snapshots? It often saves time tt checking whether snapshot is suitable for testing months after being tt dowloaded. Thank you for your feedback. While I have received various ideas and am

Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-08-15 Thread Brandon Gooch
...@mail.gmail.com: in in s. It seems that allbsd.org is up, but I can't find the HEAD snapshots, in s. only RELENG. in s. Would you like to build HEAD snapshots? Thank you very much. in in  Building snapshots of HEAD and RELENG_[67] are temporarily disabled in  because a maintenance work is now

Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-08-10 Thread Test Rat
that allbsd.org is up, but I can't find the HEAD snapshots, in s. only RELENG. in s. Would you like to build HEAD snapshots? Thank you very much. in in Building snapshots of HEAD and RELENG_[67] are temporarily disabled in because a maintenance work is now in progress. They will be back

Re: MC and snapshots

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Staal
On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:26 pm, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Can one of you tell me why it is not possible to browse .zfs directories (from snapshots) with midnight commander? I'm running FreeBSD-8.2 w/ mc from ports. Manually switching to .zfs and it's subdirectories does show the snapshotted

Re: MC and snapshots

2011-07-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 29-7-2011 22:14, Daniel Staal schreef: On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:26 pm, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Can one of you tell me why it is not possible to browse .zfs directories (from snapshots) with midnight commander? I'm running FreeBSD-8.2 w/ mc from ports. Manually switching to .zfs and it's

Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-06-27 Thread Hiroki Sato
snapshots, in s. only RELENG. in s. Would you like to build HEAD snapshots? Thank you very much. in in Building snapshots of HEAD and RELENG_[67] are temporarily disabled in because a maintenance work is now in progress. They will be back on in the page in the next week. in in Are there more

Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-06-25 Thread Pan Tsu
Hiroki Sato h...@freebsd.org writes: Hello, dave jones s.dave.jo...@gmail.com wrote in BANLkTikR-GL9LFkTL6f=pm5vcazaftk...@mail.gmail.com: s. It seems that allbsd.org is up, but I can't find the HEAD snapshots, s. only RELENG. s. Would you like to build HEAD snapshots? Thank you very

Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-04-08 Thread Hiroki Sato
Hello, dave jones s.dave.jo...@gmail.com wrote in BANLkTikR-GL9LFkTL6f=pm5vcazaftk...@mail.gmail.com: s. It seems that allbsd.org is up, but I can't find the HEAD snapshots, s. only RELENG. s. Would you like to build HEAD snapshots? Thank you very much. Building snapshots of HEAD and RELENG_

Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-03-26 Thread dave jones
Hello, It seems that www.allbsd.org is down and ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201102 is old. Anyone knows where I can get the FreeBSD snapshots? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

UFS Snapshots and iowait

2010-11-10 Thread Chris St Denis
I have started using mount -u -o snapshot as part of my backup process in order to have a week worth of local differential backups to allow quick and easy recovery of lost/overwritten/etc files. The snapshot of the partition (~250G and 2.3 million inodes used. ~10GB of data change per day)

Where's Snapshots and pub.allbsd.org

2009-12-04 Thread Al Plant
Aloha, Anybody on the FreeBSD list know what has happened to the snapshots that have not been available on FreeBSD.org since last Sept.? Also what happened to pub.allbsd.org snapshots? Are there new URL's for current and daily snapshots to test? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808

Re: July snapshots

2009-07-15 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:31:44 -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if any snapshots (iso files at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) will created in July? I don't know, but you can always find daily snapshots at http://pub.allbsd.org/FreeBSD

Re: July snapshots

2009-07-15 Thread Andrew Gould
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Bruce Cranbr...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:31:44 -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if any snapshots (iso files at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) will created in July? I don't know, but you

July snapshots

2009-07-13 Thread Andrew Gould
Does anyone know if any snapshots (iso files at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) will created in July? Thanks, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe

Re: Snapshots

2009-05-08 Thread Derek Ragona
At 04:00 AM 5/5/2009, Johan Hendriks wrote: Are there no more snapshots of current? The last is from 02-2009 Regards, Johan I downloaded one from this month a couple days ago. You should see a May snapshot available. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses

Re: Snapshots

2009-05-08 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 8/5/09 12:36, Derek Ragona wrote: At 04:00 AM 5/5/2009, Johan Hendriks wrote: Are there no more snapshots of current? The last is from 02-2009 Regards, Johan I downloaded one from this month a couple days ago. You should see a May snapshot available. -Derek Also see http

Snapshots

2009-05-05 Thread Johan Hendriks
Are there no more snapshots of current? The last is from 02-2009 Regards, Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr

snapshots

2007-09-24 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I was looking into snapshots using the doc below to try and see if delta copies with rsync matched data better if I take a snapshot of a file system, mount it and rsync transfer the data. Right now, dumps don't seem to match much data due to changes in the sequences and a very active mail cache

Snapshots fail on busy filesystem

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Morris
Greetings to all, I'm trying to set up an automated system wherein snapshots of the file system are taken prior to a backup run. The problem I'm running into can best be described by the following bug report: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=100365cat= I get this same problem

Re: Snapshots fail on busy filesystem

2007-08-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:01:35AM -0400, Chris Morris wrote: Greetings to all, I'm trying to set up an automated system wherein snapshots of the file system are taken prior to a backup run. The problem I'm running into can best be described by the following bug report: http

Amanda and FreeBSD snapshots

2007-04-15 Thread Chris Kottaridis
machines, but not on the BSD/OS machine, suince it can't do snapshots ? Thanks Chris Kottaridis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL

Re: fsck, soft-updates, and snapshots

2007-03-13 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 05:52, David Cecil wrote: Can anyone tell me src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates and README.snapshots are up to date? The former is dated June 2000, so it's almost 7 years old. The snapshots readme is only 2 years younger and mentions the code being alpha-test

fsck, soft-updates, and snapshots

2007-03-12 Thread David Cecil
? The former is dated June 2000, so it's almost 7 years old. The snapshots readme is only 2 years younger and mentions the code being alpha-test. The problems I'm seeing in 6.1 are: 1. After writing a lot if data/files to a filesystem with soft-updates enabled, then unmounting or remounting

Re: clean old portsnap snapshots?

2006-10-25 Thread Colin Percival
Joe Auty wrote: What is the best mechanism for deleting old portsnap shots to free up some space? Or, is this supposed to be handled automatically? It should be handled automatically. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

clean old portsnap snapshots?

2006-10-24 Thread Joe Auty
Hello, What is the best mechanism for deleting old portsnap shots to free up some space? Or, is this supposed to be handled automatically? --- Joe Auty NetMusician: web publishing software for musicians http://www.netmusician.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Snapshots - can we use is for cloning disk(full restore to a newhard disk)

2006-03-01 Thread Iantcho Vassilev
On 2/28/06, Gayn Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iantcho Vassilev Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:46 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Snapshots - can we use is for cloning disk(full restore to a newhard disk) Guys, i searched the web

Snapshots - can we use is for cloning disk(full restore to a new hard disk)

2006-02-28 Thread Iantcho Vassilev
Hello to everyone! Guys, i searched the web and the mailing lists about this topic,but i really didn`t find any interesting thing.. Can i use the snapshots for full restore and if yes how can we do that? The part that everyone is referring to the snapshots is the fcsk you can run on it while

RE: Snapshots - can we use is for cloning disk(full restore to a newhard disk)

2006-02-28 Thread Gayn Winters
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iantcho Vassilev Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:46 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Snapshots - can we use is for cloning disk(full restore to a newhard disk) Guys, i searched the web and the mailing lists about this topic,but i really didn`t

snapshots on large filesystems

2005-11-04 Thread user
Hello, Considering a PC server running FreeBSD with 4 400 GB hard drives attached to a hardware raid controller doing raid-5. So this will present itself to the OS as a 1.2TB filesystem. Any comments on taking one or multiple snapshots of a filesystem of this size ? Given current disk

Re: snapshots on large filesystems

2005-11-04 Thread Nathan Vidican
Plate Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ user wrote: Hello, Considering a PC server running FreeBSD with 4 400 GB hard drives attached to a hardware raid controller doing raid-5. So this will present itself to the OS as a 1.2TB filesystem. Any comments on taking one or multiple snapshots

two quick conceptual questions RE: rsync (and rsyncing snapshots)

2005-11-01 Thread user
Hello, I have started using rsync somewhat extensively and had two questions regarding its operation. First, how does rsync respond to, and perform, when the source filesystem is under very heavy change ? If I have a filesystem that I want to rsync up to a backup server, but that filesystem is

Re: two quick conceptual questions RE: rsync (and rsyncing snapshots)

2005-11-01 Thread Chuck Swiger
user wrote: First, how does rsync respond to, and perform, when the source filesystem is under very heavy change ? If I have a filesystem that I want to rsync up to a backup server, but that filesystem is _very busy_ with the creation, destruction and changing of files, how well does rsync

Re: two quick conceptual questions RE: rsync (and rsyncing snapshots)

2005-11-01 Thread user
Chuck - thank you... On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: rsync complains when the filesystem changes underneath it, but it will continue to run. On the other hand, rsync is not going to safely maintain the referential integrity of a complex file like a live database, but it's okay

Re: two quick conceptual questions RE: rsync (and rsyncing snapshots)

2005-11-01 Thread Chuck Swiger
destructions and changes on the underlying filesystem are still being committed to the snapshot ... can you think of a reason why this would not only increase the rsync performance, but the overall FS performance while rsyncing ? No. The point of using snapshots is to address the integrity concern

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... - resolved, but two more Qs

2005-10-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
or at least an RFC-like paper? I found one: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.snapshot?rev=1.4 and further, I did some tests and discovered that what I was being told (by you folks) was indeed correct. No matter how many snapshots you have, the changes in blocks

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... - resolved, but two more Qs

2005-10-21 Thread user
with the design adn implementation of the 4.4BSD OS, but I wanted to update it with more modern information - like snapshots, etc., which I will do with those URLs we have already posted RE: the snapshot work. If you have any others, let me know. ___ freebsd

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... - resolved, but two more Qs

2005-10-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
a book or two - my plan was to start with the design adn implementation of the 4.4BSD OS, but I wanted to update it with more modern information - like snapshots, etc., which I will do with those URLs we have already posted RE: the snapshot work. If you have any others, let me know. Yes. Start

FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread user
I am trying to budget some disk space for filesystems with snapshots enabled on them. The following is simplified - I am just trying to get my concepts in order: Let's say I have a filesystem, and on that filesystem I create a snapshot every single night, and every night I delete the snapshot

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:01:42AM -0400, user wrote: Finally, are there any snapshot diag tools at all ? Like, something that reports snapshot sizes, percent of disk used for snapshots, and maybe even a way for me to actually calculate what the percent change for time period X

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread user
Doug, On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Doug Poland wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:01:42AM -0400, user wrote: Finally, are there any snapshot diag tools at all ? Like, something that reports snapshot sizes, percent of disk used for snapshots, and maybe even a way for me to actually calculate

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to budget some disk space for filesystems with snapshots enabled on them. The following is simplified - I am just trying to get my concepts in order: Let's say I have a filesystem, and on that filesystem I create a snapshot every single night

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread user
Hello, On 20 Oct 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's say I have a filesystem, and on that filesystem I create a snapshot every single night, and every night I delete the snapshot from 5 nights ago. This means that at all times, I have four snapshots

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread Andrew P.
. This means that at all times, I have four snapshots running on that filesystem, one from 1 day ago, one from 2 days ago, one from 3 days ago, and one from 4 days ago. Let's also assume that the percent change of the filesystem is 5% (every day 5% of the blocks in the filesystem are either

RE: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread Gayn Winters
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew P. Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:35 PM To: user Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... Imagine that each data block is marked with labels

RE: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... - resolved, but two more Qs

2005-10-20 Thread user
://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.snapshot?rev=1.4 and further, I did some tests and discovered that what I was being told (by you folks) was indeed correct. No matter how many snapshots you have, the changes in blocks since the tiem before the first snapshot is only recorded

RE: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... - resolved, but two more Qs

2005-10-20 Thread Gayn Winters
-Original Message- From: user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:51 PM To: Gayn Winters Cc: 'Andrew P.'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ... - resolved, but two more Qs Folks, On Thu, 20 Oct 2005

Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math ...

2005-10-20 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/21/05, Gayn Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew P. Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:35 PM To: user Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD UFS2 snapshots, and math

Re: GCC snapshots and the ports collection

2005-09-11 Thread Kövesdán Gábor
that, it succeeds, however. Accordingly, I think the port can be fixed to compile with the stock compiler, but unfortunately I can't figure out what the problem is. 2, There are gcc snapshots in the ports collection like lang/gcc34, lang/gcc40, lang/gcc41, but there aren't releaes, just snapshots

Re: GCC snapshots and the ports collection

2005-09-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
, There are gcc snapshots in the ports collection like lang/gcc34, lang/gcc40, lang/gcc41, but there aren't releaes, just snapshots. Are these gcc snapshots as reliable as the releases are? Can I use for instance lang/gcc34 for production goals instead of the stock compiler, or is it just

GCC snapshots and the ports collection

2005-09-10 Thread Kövesdán Gábor
the compatibility layer? Is there any way to cross-compile ports similar to make TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld? Is this macro usable with ports collection like cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc33 make TARGET_ARCH=i386 install? 2, There are gcc snapshots in the ports collection like lang/gcc34, lang/gcc40, lang

Re: GCC snapshots and the ports collection

2005-09-10 Thread Chuck Swiger
Kövesdán Gábor wrote: I have two issues with selecting the appropriate version of gcc: 1, There is the port net/verlihub, that needs gcc 3.3 that is broken under amd64. What solution do You recommend? Fix net/verlihub to not depend on a specific version of gcc. 2, There are gcc snapshots

Re: GCC snapshots and the ports collection

2005-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
? Is there any way to cross-compile ports similar to make TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld? Is this macro usable with ports collection like cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc33 make TARGET_ARCH=i386 install? No. 2, There are gcc snapshots in the ports collection like lang/gcc34, lang/gcc40, lang/gcc41

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-31 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Charles Swiger [2005-08-30 10:49 -0400] On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:32 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Yes, that's correct! But let's say I keep more than one snapshot around. I maybe didn't mention this, but this the sole purpose of using snapshots; for me to have more full backups

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-31 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Garance A Drosihn [2005-08-30 12:50 -0400] Fwiw, I understand the problem you're trying to describe. And the basic issue is that rsync keeps no information between separate runs of it. It has no way of knowing that a given file on the source volume used to be at a different location.

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Greg Barniskis [2005-08-29 11:45 -0500] Eh? Bad assumptions about snapshots, I think. If a snapshot occupied even a tenth of the space of the data that it represented, we would quickly fill all our disks and the snapshot technology would be almost as painful as useful. A snapshot

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
snapshots ? ;) it'd be great if you could keep a log of all local-mv operations,and then replay them remotely via ssh. Yes, I thought about that myself. Only I thought I'd keep a list of filename/inode pairs from each sync, so before I do a sync I could compare the lists to find out

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Bob Johnson [2005-08-29 12:44 -0400] Use a ggated(8) + ggatec(8) pair to establish a remote volume that looks local, then use gmirror to make it a mirror of the local drive. The big gotcha is that ggated/c only moves i/o requests and data via the net, it doesn't move ioctls, so some

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Svein Halvor Halvorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only I thought I'd keep a list of filename/inode pairs from each sync, so before I do a sync I could compare the lists to find out which files appears to be the same, only with a new name. Doesn't

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Greg Barniskis
Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: * Greg Barniskis [2005-08-29 11:45 -0500] Eh? Bad assumptions about snapshots, I think. If a snapshot occupied even a tenth of the space of the data that it represented, we would quickly fill all our disks and the snapshot technology would be almost as painful

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Charles Swiger
On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:32 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Yes, that's correct! But let's say I keep more than one snapshot around. I maybe didn't mention this, but this the sole purpose of using snapshots; for me to have more full backups laying around. A snapshot on the same disk does

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:32 AM +0200 8/30/05, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: The solution: Somehow, I need to mirror all the move ops on the remote system before doing the rsync. This could probably be done by making a hash table of inodes/filenames pairs (or triplets, etc) each time i sync. Then the next time, I

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:32 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Yes, that's correct! But let's say I keep more than one snapshot around. I maybe didn't mention this, but this the sole purpose of using snapshots; for me to have more full backups

Snapshots

2005-08-30 Thread Brian McCann
Hi all...I'm having a problem using snapshots...which I discovered when I tried a system backup using dump. I've got a 283Gb partition, and the system was trying to create the snapshot for 12 hours. I'm on 5.4-RELEASE. Should this be taking this long? My gut tells me no...cause it'd

Re: Snapshots

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Johnson
On 8/30/05, Brian McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all...I'm having a problem using snapshots...which I discovered when I tried a system backup using dump. I've got a 283Gb partition, and the system was trying to create the snapshot for 12 hours. I'm on 5.4-RELEASE. Should this be taking

rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Svein Halvor Halvorsen [2005-08-28 23:53 +0200] Does this sound reasonable? Is there any precautions I should take? Are there any other tools better suited for the task at hand? I'm responding to my own message. Let's say I happen to move all music from /music/artist - album/ to

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Norberto Meijome
? and I guess that yes, if the files are new in the remote system, when you take a snapshot the difference with the previous snapshot will be the size of the new data (only guessing from how snapshots work in Linux, so feel free to flame ..err..correct me :) ) Beto

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Hornet
point of having a backup? to have *another* copy of your files? and I guess that yes, if the files are new in the remote system, when you take a snapshot the difference with the previous snapshot will be the size of the new data (only guessing from how snapshots work in Linux, so feel free

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Norberto Meijome [2005-08-30 00:32 +1000] isn't that the whole point of having a backup? to have *another* copy of your files? Well, yes and no. The idea is that I have a main computer that I want to backup. I want the backup to be (a) remote, (b) incremental and (c) random-accessible.

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
* Hornet [2005-08-29 11:11 -0400] cat /usr/ports/sysutils/rsnapshot/pkg-descr It seems this is just a wrapper around the tools I was already planning on using. In this regard, it's a nice port. But won't this perl-script suffer for tha same shortcommings that rsync will? Or does it use

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Svein Halvor Halvorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Svein Halvor Halvorsen [2005-08-28 23:53 +0200] Does this sound reasonable? Is there any precautions I should take? Are there any other tools better suited for the task at hand? I'm responding to my own message. Let's say I happen

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Norberto Meijome
amounts of diskspace. (touche). yup, that's what would happenbut tha's the nature of the beast :) don't keep too many snapshots ? ;) it'd be great if you could keep a log of all local-mv operations,and then replay them remotely via ssh. hack replace mv with your own version which does local

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Bob Johnson
On 8/29/05, Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: * Norberto Meijome [2005-08-30 00:32 +1000] I guess the proper way to do this (if you are REALLY REALLY worried about that extra spaced used for snapshots in the remote site) would be to implement a GEOM

Re: rsync and moving files [Re: backup w/ snapshots]

2005-08-29 Thread Greg Barniskis
. The snapshot will then tak considerable more diskspace. If I move a large directory tree this way, this will occupy huge amounts of diskspace. Eh? Bad assumptions about snapshots, I think. If a snapshot occupied even a tenth of the space of the data that it represented, we would quickly fill all our

backup w/ snapshots

2005-08-28 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
I'm thinking about using snapshots as a kind of backup-mechanism, in order to restore accidentally deleted files. Also, in order to avoid losing data in case of a fire, etc., I'd like to store the backup off-site. I'm thinking about using rsync to syncronize the relevant filesystems

Re: Making UFS snapshots

2005-08-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-08-17 16:32, Daniel Feenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice on this list that Garance Drosehn http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?p06230924bf1c752ccf7f reports making a snapshot of a 4 gigabyte filesystem in less than one second. We have a 859 gigabyte filesystem and snapshots take

Re: Making UFS snapshots

2005-08-18 Thread Daniel Feenberg
. We have a 859 gigabyte filesystem and snapshots take about 75 minutes to complete. Making a snapshot is not very slow if the disk is relatively idle at the time. Perhaps this is what's biting you? The computer and the disk system is otherwise idle - no activity other than taking

Re: Making UFS snapshots

2005-08-17 Thread Daniel Feenberg
I notice on this list that Garance Drosehn http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?p06230924bf1c752ccf7f reports making a snapshot of a 4 gigabyte filesystem in less than one second. We have a 859 gigabyte filesystem and snapshots take about 75 minutes to complete. Once done they appear

Making UFS snapshots

2005-08-07 Thread Garance A Drosehn
At 1:48 AM +0300 8/7/05, Michael Dexter wrote: Hello Garance and all, snip Garance wrote: I think there's a writeup somewhere on making/using snapshots. I'll see if I can remember where it is. Any pointers are appreciated. Seriously, I can't find any useful documentation on how they work

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