wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Lars Udo

i have a litlle problem with all these wires running here and there in my
flat, and as i got a woman living here with me.. i cant stand her
complaining about those ugly wires allover the house. One beautiful day, i
decided to get involved with wlan. But this one linux-dude said that my
p233mmx/64ram couldnt run wlan. I dont know if he ment WAP/WEP-encryption as
he couldnt be any spesific and that got me thinking if he even knows
anything.

My setup these days is following: 1Ghz/256ddr (Desktop mahcine, with ssh
Xforwarding) via 10Mbit LAN,
and my laptop just happens to get a lot faster when i run all apps on that
desktop-pc.

My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with standalone
X  few apps just to survive if
my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it gives any
advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd as it is
my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the wires with
wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it out and
use IPsec, or ssh instead? Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no one could
intrude into my system.

If all goes well, my next sted would be to include one windows-pc also.. and
that would need firewall for local wlan-crackers but somehow i dont believe
that as a minor threat :)

Lasse
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Re: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread albi
Lars Udo wrote:

 My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with standalone
 X  few apps just to survive if
 my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it gives any
 advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd as
 it is
 my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.
 
 Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the wires with
 wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it out and
 use IPsec, or ssh instead? Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
 i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no one could
 intrude into my system.

FreeNX uses ssh already, and you can enable SSL in it also, so it sounds
to me that it's a matter of restricting access from and to your wireless
(ip-address/mac-address e.g.)

(if you're really paranoid : WEP is cracked already, and certain setups
of WPA are also not so secure :-)

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Re: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Lars Udo

Security is no problem to me, but the problem that i'm most worried is my
budjet. If my laptop cant run wlan (for some weird reason that linux guy
couldnt even name) so all the effort would be worthless.

2006/5/7, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Lars Udo wrote:

 My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with
standalone
 X  few apps just to survive if
 my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it gives
any
 advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd as
 it is
 my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

 Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the wires
with
 wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it out
and
 use IPsec, or ssh instead? Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough
if
 i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no one
could
 intrude into my system.

FreeNX uses ssh already, and you can enable SSL in it also, so it sounds
to me that it's a matter of restricting access from and to your wireless
(ip-address/mac-address e.g.)

(if you're really paranoid : WEP is cracked already, and certain setups
of WPA are also not so secure :-)

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grtjs, albi
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Fwd: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Hunter Fuller

Forgot to reply to list :X

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From: Hunter Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 May, 2006 9:08:33 AM GMT
To: Lars Udo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wlan on lowend laptop


On  07 May 2006, at 9:19 AM, Lars Udo wrote:

i have a litlle problem with all these wires running here and  
there in my

flat, and as i got a woman living here with me.. i cant stand her
complaining about those ugly wires allover the house. One  
beautiful day, i
decided to get involved with wlan. But this one linux-dude said  
that my

p233mmx/64ram couldnt run wlan.
Lies, all lies! My P200/32mB RAM with 6.0-RELEASE acts as an AP or  
a client with WEP, WPA, etc with no issues.

I dont know if he ment WAP/WEP-encryption as
he couldnt be any spesific and that got me thinking if he even knows
anything.

My setup these days is following: 1Ghz/256ddr (Desktop mahcine,  
with ssh

Xforwarding) via 10Mbit LAN,
and my laptop just happens to get a lot faster when i run all apps  
on that

desktop-pc.

Good idea, does it lag at all? I'm thinking of configuring that.


My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with  
standalone

X  few apps just to survive if
my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it  
gives any
advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with  
freebsd as it is

my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the  
wires with
wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it  
out and

use IPsec, or ssh instead?

If you're really having issues... then yeah.

Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no  
one could

intrude into my system.
Depends if you live around people or in the middle of nowhere. The  
latter is the case for me, so I don't worry about security.


If all goes well, my next sted would be to include one windows-pc  
also.. and
that would need firewall for local wlan-crackers but somehow i  
dont believe

that as a minor threat :)

It'd be fine, you just  need proper firewalls, anti-virus, etc.


Lasse
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Re: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Lars Udo

2006/5/7, Hunter Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



On  07 May 2006, at 9:19 AM, Lars Udo wrote:

 i have a litlle problem with all these wires running here and there
 in my
 flat, and as i got a woman living here with me.. i cant stand her
 complaining about those ugly wires allover the house. One beautiful
 day, i
 decided to get involved with wlan. But this one linux-dude said
 that my
 p233mmx/64ram couldnt run wlan.
Lies, all lies! My P200/32mB RAM with 6.0-RELEASE acts as an AP or a
client with WEP, WPA, etc with no issues.



Thanks for your opinion :)


I dont know if he ment WAP/WEP-encryption as
 he couldnt be any spesific and that got me thinking if he even knows
 anything.

 My setup these days is following: 1Ghz/256ddr (Desktop mahcine,
 with ssh
 Xforwarding) via 10Mbit LAN,
 and my laptop just happens to get a lot faster when i run all apps
 on that
 desktop-pc.
Good idea, does it lag at all? I'm thinking of configuring that.



Yes it lags a little, but nothing compared for opera running natively
on laptop. Normally, websites
renders pic by pic.. but with this configuration, it all just jumps on
the screen instantly
after short period time of 'thinkin' which is about 1sec. I think that
100Mbit would be a great improvement.



 My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with
 standalone
 X  few apps just to survive if
 my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it
 gives any
 advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd
 as it is
 my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

 Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the
 wires with
 wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it
 out and
 use IPsec, or ssh instead?
If you're really having issues... then yeah.
 Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
 i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no
 one could
 intrude into my system.
Depends if you live around people or in the middle of nowhere. The
latter is the case for me, so I don't worry about security.

 If all goes well, my next sted would be to include one windows-pc
 also.. and
 that would need firewall for local wlan-crackers but somehow i dont
 believe
 that as a minor threat :)
It'd be fine, you just  need proper firewalls, anti-virus, etc.

 Lasse
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