Re: xfce 4.10 update problems

[jb]

Warren Block  wonkity.com> writes:

> ... 
> > I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse.
> 
> devd runs moused when USB mice are attached, even if moused_enable="NO" 
> is set in rc.conf.
> 
> That's not a bad thing.  It seems like enabling moused is needed 
> somehow, maybe just to get a handle on the mice before HAL starts.

Oops, I must have goofed multiple times.
Disabling moused in rc.conf did just that for the default (built-in) mouse.
$ ps auxww|grep -i mouse
root1938   1.0  0.1  12340   2628  ??  S10:31PM 0:00.92
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
root1287   0.0  0.1   9716   1148  ??  Ss   10:31PM 0:00.12
/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid
root1958   0.0  0.1  12340   2516  ??  I10:31PM 0:00.01
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
jb  2110   0.0  0.0   1928708   1  R+   10:34PM 0:00.02 grep -i 
mouse

No problem here.
Thanks guys.
jb


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Re: xfce 4.10 update problems

[Warren Block]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, jb wrote:


Warren Block  wonkity.com> writes:


...

- startx fails when moused enabled
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
Device busy.
(EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
xinit: connection to X server lost

Any known solutions ?


Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section:

Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off"


OK, that's way to go.

But there is something strange.
I tried to fix the problem by disabling moused in /etc/rc.conf .
After reboot, I could 'startx' X session.
But 'ps' still showed moused processes:
$ ps auxww |grep -i mouse
root 1286 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 8:55AM 0:01.02
/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid
root 1888 0.0 0.1 9716 1144 ?? Is 8:55AM 0:00.00
/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto
root 2045 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
root 2065 0.0 0.1 12340 2520 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
jb 2262 0.0 0.1 9748 1284 2 S+ 9:03AM 0:00.01
grep -i mouse

I tested it by rebooting 3 times.
I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse.


devd runs moused when USB mice are attached, even if moused_enable="NO" 
is set in rc.conf.


That's not a bad thing.  It seems like enabling moused is needed 
somehow, maybe just to get a handle on the mice before HAL starts.

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Re: xfce 4.10 update problems

[Mark Felder]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:22:51 -0500, jb  wrote:



I tested it by rebooting 3 times.
I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse.


moused_nondefault_enable="NO" perhaps?
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Re: xfce 4.10 update problems

[jb]

Warren Block  wonkity.com> writes:

> ... 
> > - startx fails when moused enabled
> > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
> > Device busy.
> > (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
> > (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"
> > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
> > xinit: connection to X server lost
> >
> > Any known solutions ?
> 
> Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section:
> 
> Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off"

OK, that's way to go.

But there is something strange.
I tried to fix the problem by disabling moused in /etc/rc.conf .
After reboot, I could 'startx' X session.
But 'ps' still showed moused processes:
$ ps auxww |grep -i mouse
root 1286 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 8:55AM 0:01.02
/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid
root 1888 0.0 0.1 9716 1144 ?? Is 8:55AM 0:00.00
/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto
root 2045 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
root 2065 0.0 0.1 12340 2520 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
jb 2262 0.0 0.1 9748 1284 2 S+ 9:03AM 0:00.01
grep -i mouse

I tested it by rebooting 3 times.
I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse.

How to explain that?
jb


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Re: xfce 4.10 update problems

[Waitman Gobble]

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Warren Block  wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, jb wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>> after portmaster update:
>> - there are missing icons in main menu and that of Terminal
>> - startx fails when moused enabled
>> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
>>Device busy.
>> (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
>> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"
>> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
>> xinit: connection to X server lost
>>
>> Any known solutions ?
>>
>
> Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section:
>
> Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off"
>
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for missing icons in xfce4.10, here is explanation in a pr with 3
solutions..

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=168688


Waitman Gobble
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Re: xfce 4.10 update problems

[Warren Block]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, jb wrote:


Hi,
after portmaster update:
- there are missing icons in main menu and that of Terminal
- startx fails when moused enabled
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
Device busy.
(EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
xinit: connection to X server lost

Any known solutions ?


Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section:

Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off"
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xfce 4.10 update problems

[jb]

Hi,
after portmaster update:
- there are missing icons in main menu and that of Terminal
- startx fails when moused enabled
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
Device busy.
(EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
xinit: connection to X server lost

Any known solutions ?
jb


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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Leslie Jensen]

2012-06-04 14:07, Antonio Olivares skrev:




I now have a similar problem. The icons in the program menu is not
displayed, only a white icon with a red cross.

Uninstalled the complete xfce4 and reinstalled it.

I also nuked the .config directory but icons are gone even so.

I have the 96 DPI setting as well.

Did you do anything else to retrieve the icons?

Thanks



Only the ones in the bottom panel :) [right click then select the
icons from the ones given]  On the menu, they are still missing :(  I
don't worry about these yet as I hope that some update(s) later on
will bring them back :)

I updated the png update as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING, but no
improvement in icons :(

Regards,


Antonio
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Now I have made a total re-installation of all the ports on the machine 
with the icons missing. I only had a couple of hundred ports so I took a 
chance that it would solve this issue. Unfortunately it didn't.


On my laptop I have more than 700 ports and there I have no problems 
with missing icons after the png- update.


Maybe we are missing a port on the machines that have no icons?

I'll do as you have chosen to do, wait and see.

/Leslie








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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Antonio Olivares]

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Leslie Jensen  wrote:
>
>
> 2012-05-28 06:53, Antonio Olivares skrev:
>
>>>
>>> I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked
>>> it.  Then I see the pristine settings.  They are almost the same with
>>> the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before
>>> but was moved.  The fonts are the same :(, tiny.  If I change the size
>>> it is not noticed.  The bottom panel has no icons except for two
>>> folders on both ends and the application finder.  I guess I will have
>>> to change that behavior manually.
>>>
>>> I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't
>>> appear to be in a folder.
>>>
>>> Thanks for helping out.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>
>>
>> I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue.
>>
>> The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size.  Now everything
>> seems to be normal :)
>>
>> I vistited the online tour
>>
>> http://www.xfce.org/about/tour
>>
>> Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on
>> DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though.
>>

> I now have a similar problem. The icons in the program menu is not
> displayed, only a white icon with a red cross.
>
> Uninstalled the complete xfce4 and reinstalled it.
>
> I also nuked the .config directory but icons are gone even so.
>
> I have the 96 DPI setting as well.
>
> Did you do anything else to retrieve the icons?
>
> Thanks
>

Only the ones in the bottom panel :) [right click then select the
icons from the ones given]  On the menu, they are still missing :(  I
don't worry about these yet as I hope that some update(s) later on
will bring them back :)

I updated the png update as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING, but no
improvement in icons :(

Regards,


Antonio
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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Leslie Jensen]

2012-05-28 06:53, Antonio Olivares skrev:



I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked
it.  Then I see the pristine settings.  They are almost the same with
the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before
but was moved.  The fonts are the same :(, tiny.  If I change the size
it is not noticed.  The bottom panel has no icons except for two
folders on both ends and the application finder.  I guess I will have
to change that behavior manually.

I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't
appear to be in a folder.

Thanks for helping out.

Regards,


Antonio


I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue.

The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size.  Now everything
seems to be normal :)

I vistited the online tour

http://www.xfce.org/about/tour

Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on
DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though.

Thanks Polytropon for your valuable help and suggestions.

Regards,


Antonio
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I now have a similar problem. The icons in the program menu is not 
displayed, only a white icon with a red cross.


Uninstalled the complete xfce4 and reinstalled it.

I also nuked the .config directory but icons are gone even so.

I have the 96 DPI setting as well.

Did you do anything else to retrieve the icons?

Thanks

/Leslie


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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Antonio Olivares]

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Warren Block  wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>> I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue.
>>
>> The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size.  Now everything
>> seems to be normal :)
>
>
> When Settings/Appearance/Custom DPI is unchecked, it should get the actual
> monitor DPI value from X, which in turn gets it from the monitor via DDC.
>  Some monitors fail at this, but most work.

This is exactly what I did :)
Although I did not state it correctly :(

Best Regards,


Antonio
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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Warren Block]

On Sun, 27 May 2012, Antonio Olivares wrote:


I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue.

The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size.  Now everything
seems to be normal :)


When Settings/Appearance/Custom DPI is unchecked, it should get the 
actual monitor DPI value from X, which in turn gets it from the monitor 
via DDC.  Some monitors fail at this, but most work.

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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Polytropon]

On Sun, 27 May 2012 23:53:03 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue.
> 
> The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size.  Now everything
> seems to be normal :)
> 
> I vistited the online tour
> 
> http://www.xfce.org/about/tour
> 
> Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on
> DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though.
> 
> Thanks Polytropon for your valuable help and suggestions.

I actually had a similar problem with the fonts in many Gtk
and Gtk+ applications, so I changed the DPI value for the
whole X system by defining

Option "DPI" "96 x 96"

in Section "Device" for your graphics card.

You can also let X determine the DPI value automatically
by entering

DisplaySize 410 305

in Section "Monitor" for your monitor; units are in mm.

To try which resolution fits best, you can use the followng
commands:

% xinit -- -dpi 72
% xinit -- -dpi 75
% xinit -- -dpi 96
% xinit -- -dpi 100
% xinit -- -dpi 115

If you're using a LCD panel, it should be obvious and match
the real hardware parameters.




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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Antonio Olivares]

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Antonio Olivares
 wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Polytropon  wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:20:43 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>> Dear folks,
>>>
>>> I forgot to ask in same thread.  Apologize in advance :(
>>> The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in
>>> 4.8.3 XFCE.  Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore
>>> these?  or do I have to figure out another way to fix this?
>>
>> Depends. If you remove the user's ~/-xfce4 setting directory,
>> they should go back to the defaults. But what are the defaults?
>> Maybe those are already too small.
>>
>> As Xfce 4 is a Gtk+ application, you can try a general override
>> of fonts with a ~/.gtkrc-2.0, containing
>>
>>        gtk-font-name="Tahoma 12"
>>
>> as an example to override. You can also change your display's
>> DPI (depending on if you're using a CRT or LCD) in X's configuration
>> file.
>>
>> I'd say the best way is to load Xfce 4 with its defaults, then
>> alter them using its configuration tools, which will result in
>> a "different" user configuration in the ~/.xfce4 directory.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>
> I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked
> it.  Then I see the pristine settings.  They are almost the same with
> the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before
> but was moved.  The fonts are the same :(, tiny.  If I change the size
> it is not noticed.  The bottom panel has no icons except for two
> folders on both ends and the application finder.  I guess I will have
> to change that behavior manually.
>
> I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't
> appear to be in a folder.
>
> Thanks for helping out.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antonio

I believe that I have found a way to fix the issue.

The problem was the DPI, the fonts are the same size.  Now everything
seems to be normal :)

I vistited the online tour

http://www.xfce.org/about/tour

Then clicked on the application finder, appearance, then clicked on
DPI and raised the number to 96 did not see what it was though.

Thanks Polytropon for your valuable help and suggestions.

Regards,


Antonio
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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Antonio Olivares]

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Polytropon  wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:20:43 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Dear folks,
>>
>> I forgot to ask in same thread.  Apologize in advance :(
>> The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in
>> 4.8.3 XFCE.  Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore
>> these?  or do I have to figure out another way to fix this?
>
> Depends. If you remove the user's ~/-xfce4 setting directory,
> they should go back to the defaults. But what are the defaults?
> Maybe those are already too small.
>
> As Xfce 4 is a Gtk+ application, you can try a general override
> of fonts with a ~/.gtkrc-2.0, containing
>
>        gtk-font-name="Tahoma 12"
>
> as an example to override. You can also change your display's
> DPI (depending on if you're using a CRT or LCD) in X's configuration
> file.
>
> I'd say the best way is to load Xfce 4 with its defaults, then
> alter them using its configuration tools, which will result in
> a "different" user configuration in the ~/.xfce4 directory.
>
>
>
> --

I copied the username/.config directory to another folder and nuked
it.  Then I see the pristine settings.  They are almost the same with
the exception of the clock moved to the side like it had been before
but was moved.  The fonts are the same :(, tiny.  If I change the size
it is not noticed.  The bottom panel has no icons except for two
folders on both ends and the application finder.  I guess I will have
to change that behavior manually.

I will see where I can adjust the sizes of the fonts since they don't
appear to be in a folder.

Thanks for helping out.

Regards,


Antonio
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Re: font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Polytropon]

On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:20:43 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear folks,
> 
> I forgot to ask in same thread.  Apologize in advance :(
> The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in
> 4.8.3 XFCE.  Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore
> these?  or do I have to figure out another way to fix this?

Depends. If you remove the user's ~/-xfce4 setting directory,
they should go back to the defaults. But what are the defaults?
Maybe those are already too small.

As Xfce 4 is a Gtk+ application, you can try a general override
of fonts with a ~/.gtkrc-2.0, containing

gtk-font-name="Tahoma 12"

as an example to override. You can also change your display's
DPI (depending on if you're using a CRT or LCD) in X's configuration
file.

I'd say the best way is to load Xfce 4 with its defaults, then
alter them using its configuration tools, which will result in
a "different" user configuration in the ~/.xfce4 directory.



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font sizes in xfce 4.10

[Antonio Olivares]

Dear folks,

I forgot to ask in same thread.  Apologize in advance :(
The font sizes have changed giving very tiny size, it was not like in
4.8.3 XFCE.  Will resetting xfce to pristine state(default) restore
these?  or do I have to figure out another way to fix this?

Thanks & Regards,


Antonio
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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:50:20AM -0800, Devin Teske wrote:

> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Jerry McAllister  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:05:14PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > 
> >> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +, Frank Shute wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
> >>>> binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
> >>>> 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
> >>>> remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
> >>>> and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
> >>>> install/upgrade process.
> >>> 
> >>> An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from
> >>> UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5.
> >> 
> >> That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD
> >> releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on
> >> it.  Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1
> >> with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary.
> > 
> > The thing to do is create the UFS2 new system and use it to read
> > the stuff you need from the old UFS1 system/disk.  Then just use
> > the new disk.
> > 
> 
> Maybe I'm just imagining things, but I somehow recall that some guru had 
> posted a technique for converting UFS1 to UFS2 by way of dump/restore 
> while booted from a live distro. Was I dreaming?

Well, that should be easy.You just have a new disk, slice, partition
and newfs it with a new UFS2 system.  Then dump the old partitions
and restore them on the new partitions.It is still a matter of
creating a new system with new space.  You could do it to a spare
machine and then once it is all built, do the same back to the old
machine and it would all be up-to-date.

The new one would be nice and clean then too.

jerry
   
> --
> Cheers,
> Devin
> 
> 
> > jerry
> > 
> > 
> >> -- 
> >> 
> >> Erik Trulsson
> >> ertr1...@student.uu.se
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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Devin Teske]

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Jerry McAllister  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:05:14PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +, Frank Shute wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
>>>> binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
>>>> 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
>>>> remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
>>>> and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
>>>> install/upgrade process.
>>> 
>>> An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from
>>> UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5.
>> 
>> That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD
>> releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on
>> it.  Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1
>> with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary.
> 
> The thing to do is create the UFS2 new system and use it to read
> the stuff you need from the old UFS1 system/disk.  Then just use
> the new disk.
> 

Maybe I'm just imagining things, but I somehow recall that some guru had posted 
a technique for converting UFS1 to UFS2 by way of dump/restore while booted 
from a live distro. Was I dreaming?
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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:05:14PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +, Frank Shute wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote:
> > >
> > > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
> > > binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
> > > 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
> > > remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
> > > and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
> > > install/upgrade process.
> > 
> > An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from
> > UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5.
> 
> That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD
> releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on
> it.  Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1
> with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary.

The thing to do is create the UFS2 new system and use it to read
the stuff you need from the old UFS1 system/disk.  Then just use
the new disk.

jerry


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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Erik Trulsson]

On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote:
> >
> > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
> > binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
> > 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
> > remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
> > and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
> > install/upgrade process.
> 
> An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from
> UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5.

That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD
releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on
it.  Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1
with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary.


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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Frank Shute]

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote:
>
> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
> binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
> 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
> remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
> and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
> install/upgrade process.

An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from
UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5.

I'm afraid as others have indicated, you'll have to visit the site or
ship a preconfigured box to the site.

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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[krad]

On 6 January 2011 16:40, Mike Tancsa  wrote:

> On 1/6/2011 11:27 AM, Robert Huff wrote:
> >
> > patrick writes:
> >
> >>  I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to
> >>  whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a
> >>  system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install,
> >>  but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy
> >>  to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less
> >>  experienced through the install/upgrade process.
> >
> >   While this may not be an option, my preference would be to
> > 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and
> > data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote
> > location.  Anything else is likely to be too painful for words.
>
> How old is the hardware as well?  If its running 4.x, something is going
> to die on it sooner than later. I agree with the above. Send a new box
> or at the very least a new disk with 8.2 on it. Then, just mount the old
> 4.x disk and copy over the user data.
>
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I have done such upgrades in the past but they are very high risk, so the
chances are you will incur some prolonged downtime, and probably have to go
to site anyway. It would be much easier to build a new system disk, install
whatever ports you need and copy across anything else from the live system,
then install the new disk to the box (or an entire new box)
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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Devin Teske]

Sharing some of our experiences here at VICOR.

On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 15:55 -0500, grarpamp wrote:
> I know I'll take heat from everyone else who responded saying to
> effectively ship a new box. But maybe this user has significant
> costs involved with that. Along with any other reasons...

Our company is in that situation. In fact, we have:

>1000 systems still running FreeBSD-4.11
>200 systems still running FreeBSD-4.8
>1 system still running FreeBSD-4.4
and 1 system still running FreeBSD-2.2.2

The >200 4.8 systems are actually in the process of upgrading to 4.11
this year (go ahead... roflmao your heart out).

Later this year, we plan to migrate ~500 systems from 4.11 to 8.1 and we
plan to do it with a binary upgrade package (of our own design).


> 
> v4 to v8 can be done. I've done it entirely live over the net.
> Nothing crazy about it.

Confirmed. We've done it too. Nothing special.


> 
> The basic idea is that there are too many changes and tools involved
> to fart around with build/install world, mergemaster, CD's, sysinstall,
> etc. And they're just not aware of such a jump. And you can't trust
> the idiots on the other end to get it right even if they would work.
> You are the SA, free your mind. To the initiate, it would be
> harrowing. To the seasoned SA, it's logical cake.
> 

It takes time to be thorough, but if you're thorough there's no reason
to fear a binary upgrade. In fact, you can logistically break it down
into the following procedure:

- Take vanilla 4.x host-one
- Take vanilla 8.x host-two
- Diff host-one to host-two
- Build binary differential package
- Package pre-install regresses the machine by uninstalling all packages
- Package post-install builds the 8.x box back up with new packages


> So backup your entire 4.x box over the wire, there will be no return.
> 

In our 4.x->8.x binary upgrade, we have a back-out strategy because
we've been doing binary upgrades for years.

In essence, our company started on FreeBSD-2.2.2, then did binary
upgrade to 4.4. Then binary upgrade to 4.8. Then binary upgrade to 4.11.
Now binary upgrade to 8.1.

The backout strategy is essentially to re-install the "4.11 upgrade"
package (downgrading from 8.1 back to 4.11).

But really... in over 10 years, we've never had to "back out" a binary
upgrade (the procedure to do so has been documented and there, but in
the tens-of-thousands of binary upgrades we've done, we've never had to
back it out... not even once).


> Go find a box and install v8 however you want it. If you fail, this
> one goes to the shipper asap. You can use a vm but that will take
> longer to ship. You are very wise to also install a v4 box and
> overlay your backup on it first for testing the entire process. If
> you failed to heed SA wisdom about separating / /usr /usr/local
> /var /home /boot, free space, etc on the original v4 box, your life
> will be much harder. But if you have a ton of unpartitioned free
> space on it, you can fix that one at a time too ;)
> 
> Be very aware of boot sectors, loaders, partitions, slices, fstab,
> sizes, /dev, ifconfig, packet filters, kernel config, etc. That
> kills most people. Also, since all your apps will be pristine v8
> vers, you need to sort out their use of the old data and config.
> 
> If you have space, rsync -Haxi upload your v8 mountpoints to separate
> staging dirs on the v4 box. It helps narrow your power fail window :)
> 
> Get on the v4 box. If you've got console, re boot -s. If not, take
> it down till only init, sh and sshd remain. If you have space, rsync
> your current v4 mountpoints to some backup dirs.
> 
> You're going to need static versions of rsync, openssh, sh, su, and
> any other tools. You'll need to kill and run the static sshd... re:
> fstat, umount, libs, etc. If you want, truncate /etc/rc to load
> only static sshd from /root. This gives you some chance at recovery.
> Again, do a local trial run to figure out what, where and when you
> want or need all the tricks and in what order.
> 
> Mount everything read-write and rsync -Haxi --delete from your v8
> staging dirs (whether local or remote) over top of the live but now
> library freed v4 mountpoints.
> 
> Reboot ;)
> 
> Don't forget to lay down new boot sectors etc as and when needed
> during or after the above.
> 
> It works, don't complain to me or this list if you break it :)
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Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[grarpamp]

I know I'll take heat from everyone else who responded saying to
effectively ship a new box. But maybe this user has significant
costs involved with that. Along with any other reasons...

v4 to v8 can be done. I've done it entirely live over the net.
Nothing crazy about it.

The basic idea is that there are too many changes and tools involved
to fart around with build/install world, mergemaster, CD's, sysinstall,
etc. And they're just not aware of such a jump. And you can't trust
the idiots on the other end to get it right even if they would work.
You are the SA, free your mind. To the initiate, it would be
harrowing. To the seasoned SA, it's logical cake.

So backup your entire 4.x box over the wire, there will be no return.

Go find a box and install v8 however you want it. If you fail, this
one goes to the shipper asap. You can use a vm but that will take
longer to ship. You are very wise to also install a v4 box and
overlay your backup on it first for testing the entire process. If
you failed to heed SA wisdom about separating / /usr /usr/local
/var /home /boot, free space, etc on the original v4 box, your life
will be much harder. But if you have a ton of unpartitioned free
space on it, you can fix that one at a time too ;)

Be very aware of boot sectors, loaders, partitions, slices, fstab,
sizes, /dev, ifconfig, packet filters, kernel config, etc. That
kills most people. Also, since all your apps will be pristine v8
vers, you need to sort out their use of the old data and config.

If you have space, rsync -Haxi upload your v8 mountpoints to separate
staging dirs on the v4 box. It helps narrow your power fail window :)

Get on the v4 box. If you've got console, re boot -s. If not, take
it down till only init, sh and sshd remain. If you have space, rsync
your current v4 mountpoints to some backup dirs.

You're going to need static versions of rsync, openssh, sh, su, and
any other tools. You'll need to kill and run the static sshd... re:
fstat, umount, libs, etc. If you want, truncate /etc/rc to load
only static sshd from /root. This gives you some chance at recovery.
Again, do a local trial run to figure out what, where and when you
want or need all the tricks and in what order.

Mount everything read-write and rsync -Haxi --delete from your v8
staging dirs (whether local or remote) over top of the live but now
library freed v4 mountpoints.

Reboot ;)

Don't forget to lay down new boot sectors etc as and when needed
during or after the above.

It works, don't complain to me or this list if you break it :)
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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Mike Tancsa]

On 1/6/2011 11:27 AM, Robert Huff wrote:
> 
> patrick writes:
> 
>>  I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to
>>  whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a
>>  system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install,
>>  but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy
>>  to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less
>>  experienced through the install/upgrade process.
> 
>   While this may not be an option, my preference would be to
> 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and
> data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote
> location.  Anything else is likely to be too painful for words.

How old is the hardware as well?  If its running 4.x, something is going
to die on it sooner than later. I agree with the above. Send a new box
or at the very least a new disk with 8.2 on it. Then, just mount the old
4.x disk and copy over the user data.

---Mike
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Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Robert Huff]

patrick writes:

>  I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to
>  whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a
>  system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install,
>  but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy
>  to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less
>  experienced through the install/upgrade process.

While this may not be an option, my preference would be to
1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and
data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote
location.  Anything else is likely to be too painful for words.


Robert Huff

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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote:

> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
> binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
> 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
> remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
> and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
> install/upgrade process.

It might work.  But, I think you would save a lot of headache and time
to just do a new scratch install of 8.xx (8.2 should be here soon).

First, make a thorough list of everything that is installed on the
old machine.List info from disk slice[s] and partitions and other
configuration items.  Then make copies (backups) of all user data
and anything that needs to be kept from the old system and is not
being newly installed from ports and such.

Now would be a good/great time to replace/upgrade the hard disk or
install a second (third..., etc) disk.

Rethink the partitioning according to current usage and disk sizes.

Then just build a new machine, configure it appropriately, install
the ports and any other possible software - latest versions.  Then
restore all the user data that is needed on the new system and you
should be ready to go.  (Some old data may better be left in archive)

jerry  

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Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1?

[patrick]

I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a
binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running
4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a
remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way,
and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the
install/upgrade process.
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connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address

[anand ganti]

i found the link on connecting bsd gnome to dsl internet darn helpful.i
connected to dsl using the code written by mr doug i believe to work
correctly inside a freebsd guest os inside vmware player using which i
connected gnome to dsl internet .in between i had the tryst with vi typing
code into rc.conf file had good fun there .typing this email from gnome bsd
8 internet email as a result .odes of gratitude
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Fwd: 6.3release AMD64 NFSclient and 4.10/11

[Used Equipment]

 
 After beating my head for several hours, I'm hoping
 we can confirm the lack of backwards compatibility
with 4.X.
 Although the server can be called from any 4.X client

 and connect with the 6.3amd64 release nfsd. The 6.3
 client does not connect with 4.X server.
 
 The standard response is 
 : RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered
 Only on the client to a 4.X machine.
  
 Also note nfsiod does not start on amd64 release. 
 even manually starting the daemon which isn't
 required necessarily, does not core dump or start.
Nor is it visible in ps or in the logs.
 
 Even during boot/kernel load no errors are indicated
 for client.
nsfd is running fine.
rpcbind appears to be ok.
client big zero.  nfsiod -n 4
also used nfsclient stopped and restarted in rc.d
same issue.

exports is complete and fine
hosts.allow also is set for rpcbind and nets are
correct.
mountd is -r

Also double checked the handbook for nfs and
everything is the same.
 
Anyone else see this in release 6.3?

Rick
 



  

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6.3release AMD64 NFSclient and 4.10/11

[Used Equipment]

After beating my head for several hours, I'm hoping we
can confirm the lack of backwards compatibility with
4.X.
Although the server can be called from any 4.X client 
and connect with the 6.3amd64 release nfsd. The 6.3
client does not connect with 4.X server.

The standard response is 
: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered
Only on the client to a 4.X machine.


Also note nfsiod does not start on amd64 release. 
even manually starting the daemon which isn't required
necessarily, does not core dump or start. Nor is it
visible in ps.

Even during boot/kernel load no errors are indicated
for client.

again nsfd is running fine (means exports is fine
too).
rpcbind appears to be ok.
client big zero.  nfsiod -n 4

Any help would be appreciated.

Rick


  

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Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10

[Chuck Swiger]

On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:

As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three
consecutive unsuccessful login attempts?


As root, you could run:

chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_


Um... I don't think that's quite what the OP meant.  He wants to  
automatically

lock out anyone that fails 3 times to supply the right password.


Perhaps, although I preferred to answer the question which was  
actually asked in this case, since automatically locking out accounts  
results in a trivial denial-of-service condition whenever anyone  
happens to do a brute-force scan on the machine in question.



See login.conf(5), particularly these entries:

login-backoffnumber3 The number of login  
attempts allowed
 before the backoff delay is  
inserted
 after each subsequent  
attempt.  The
 backoff delay is the number  
of tries
 above login-backoff  
multiplied by 5

 seconds.
login-retriesnumber10The number of login  
attempts allowed

 before the login fails.

Note that this applies only to the login(1) program and so applies to
textmode logins directly on the console.  Other applications like  
xdm(1)

have different controls, as do applications that provide remote access
like ssh(1).


Have you actually tried setting these?  They make the system add a  
pause if the wrong password is entered several times, but they will  
not actually lock the account.


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Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10

[Matthew Seaman]

Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Tuan Ho wrote:
>> 1/
>> As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three
>> consecutive unsuccessful login attempts?
> 
> As root, you could run:
> 
>  chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_

Um... I don't think that's quite what the OP meant.  He wants to automatically
lock out anyone that fails 3 times to supply the right password.

See login.conf(5), particularly these entries:

 login-backoffnumber3 The number of login attempts allowed
  before the backoff delay is inserted
  after each subsequent attempt.  The
  backoff delay is the number of tries
  above login-backoff multiplied by 5
  seconds.
 login-retriesnumber10The number of login attempts allowed
  before the login fails.

Note that this applies only to the login(1) program and so applies to
textmode logins directly on the console.  Other applications like xdm(1)
have different controls, as do applications that provide remote access
like ssh(1).

Cheers,

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Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10

[Chuck Swiger]

On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Tuan Ho wrote:

1/
As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three  
consecutive unsuccessful login attempts?


As root, you could run:

 chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_


2/
How can I enable logged file to monitor successful and unsuccessful  
logins and logouts?


This should be enabled by default already; examine /var/log/auth.log

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Help on freeBSD 4.10

[Tuan Ho]

I have use freeBSD 4.10
 
1/
As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three consecutive 
unsuccessful login attempts?
 
2/
How can I enable logged file to monitor successful and unsuccessful logins and 
logouts?
 
 
Thanks,
 
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Re: remote binary upgrade from 4.10 to 6.2

[Josh Paetzel]

On Friday 02 November 2007 01:58:34 am Erik Cederstrand wrote:
> David Yeske wrote:
> > I have a lot of appliances in the field running FreeBSD.  These
> > machines do not have a working compiler.  They need to be upgraded
> > from FreeBSD 4.10 to FreeBSD 6.2.  Has anyone gone through this
> > successfully?  Does anyone have pointers on a clean way to do this?
> > Due to the lack of console support for most of these machines, booting
> > from the 6.2 cd will not work.  This has to be a remote binary
> > upgrade.  I need to have FreeBSD 4.10 install FreeBSD 6.2, although
> > this could be done in stages with multiple reboots.  I want to avoid
> > upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.5 to 6.2.  It appears that FreeBSD
> > 6.2 runs just fine on UFS1.
>
> First, I should mention that I have not done something like this before.
> However, I think it would help if you could be a little more specific.
> What are the specs of the machine (CPU, RAM, disk)? How remote are they
> (i.e. "next building" or "Greenland")? How many appliances need
> upgrading? Do you control the network they're attached to?
>
> A couple of ideas:
> 1) As you say, the official advice is 4.10 -> 5.5 -> 6.2. You could
> cross-compile the 5.5 world + kernel on a build machine and
> installworld/kernel on the appliance. Reboot, and repeat for 6.2. This
> assumes you have the disk space for the new world/kernel, or that you
> can at least NFS mount a remote /usr/obj.
>
> 2) If you have the disk space, you can create another partition, place a
> complete 6.2 distribution there (compiled on a build machine) and change
> the boot loader to boot the new partition.
>
> 3) If you are able to PXE boot the machine, you could do a network
> install of the appliance.
>
> 4) If you control the network, you could build a kernel with NFS_ROOT
> support so you're independent on the local disk. Wipe the disk and
> install a new distribution there.
>
> 5) Finally, if you have the RAM, you could build a kernel with MFS_ROOT
> support, place a memdisk image on the local disk and proceed as 4)
>
> Erik

Just in case there is any doubt, a remote upgrade from source is more involved 
than 4.10 -> 5.5 -> 6.2

The supported upgrade path across major version numbers has always been from 
the last release of the old to the first release of the new, and in the 5.x 
era there wasn't a direct upgrade path from 5.0 -> 5.5, you needed to do 
5.0 -> 5.3 -> 5.5 so your upgrade path from source really is

4.10 -> 4.11 -> 5.0 -> 5.3 -> 5.5 -> 6.0 -> 6.2

There may be cases where you can skip a step, but then you venture in to the 
land of unsupported upgrades.

I'm not suggesting you go this route, just giving you more motivation to 
explore other options!

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Re: remote binary upgrade from 4.10 to 6.2

[Erik Cederstrand]

David Yeske wrote:

I have a lot of appliances in the field running FreeBSD.  These
machines do not have a working compiler.  They need to be upgraded
from FreeBSD 4.10 to FreeBSD 6.2.  Has anyone gone through this
successfully?  Does anyone have pointers on a clean way to do this?
Due to the lack of console support for most of these machines, booting
from the 6.2 cd will not work.  This has to be a remote binary
upgrade.  I need to have FreeBSD 4.10 install FreeBSD 6.2, although
this could be done in stages with multiple reboots.  I want to avoid
upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.5 to 6.2.  It appears that FreeBSD
6.2 runs just fine on UFS1.


First, I should mention that I have not done something like this before. 
However, I think it would help if you could be a little more specific. 
What are the specs of the machine (CPU, RAM, disk)? How remote are they 
(i.e. "next building" or "Greenland")? How many appliances need 
upgrading? Do you control the network they're attached to?


A couple of ideas:
1) As you say, the official advice is 4.10 -> 5.5 -> 6.2. You could 
cross-compile the 5.5 world + kernel on a build machine and 
installworld/kernel on the appliance. Reboot, and repeat for 6.2. This 
assumes you have the disk space for the new world/kernel, or that you 
can at least NFS mount a remote /usr/obj.


2) If you have the disk space, you can create another partition, place a 
complete 6.2 distribution there (compiled on a build machine) and change 
the boot loader to boot the new partition.


3) If you are able to PXE boot the machine, you could do a network 
install of the appliance.


4) If you control the network, you could build a kernel with NFS_ROOT 
support so you're independent on the local disk. Wipe the disk and 
install a new distribution there.


5) Finally, if you have the RAM, you could build a kernel with MFS_ROOT 
support, place a memdisk image on the local disk and proceed as 4)


Erik
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remote binary upgrade from 4.10 to 6.2

[David Yeske]

I have a lot of appliances in the field running FreeBSD.  These
machines do not have a working compiler.  They need to be upgraded
from FreeBSD 4.10 to FreeBSD 6.2.  Has anyone gone through this
successfully?  Does anyone have pointers on a clean way to do this?
Due to the lack of console support for most of these machines, booting
from the 6.2 cd will not work.  This has to be a remote binary
upgrade.  I need to have FreeBSD 4.10 install FreeBSD 6.2, although
this could be done in stages with multiple reboots.  I want to avoid
upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.5 to 6.2.  It appears that FreeBSD
6.2 runs just fine on UFS1.

Regards,
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Re: 4.10-stable nameserver strange behavior

[Armin Arh]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:44:38 -0500 (EST)
Ken Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> How I "refresh" a system binary?
> 
> More specifically, I think I may have a compromised(?) named
> in /usr/sbin but what I have in /usr/obj should be fine;
> if not I still have it in /usr/src and can rebuild/reinstall it.
> 
> So how would I do the "named only" part of an installworld?

I would try something like:

cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/named
make install

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4.10-stable nameserver strange behavior

[Robert Huff]

Ken Cochran writes:

>  How I "refresh" a system binary?


Assuming your source tree is the same version as installed
system ... I have been able to just go to the appropriate directory,
type "make && make install".  This _not_ the canonical way, and I
wouldn't bet the rent money on it.


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4.10-stable nameserver strange behavior

[Ken Cochran]

Hi:

How I "refresh" a system binary?

More specifically, I think I may have a compromised(?) named
in /usr/sbin but what I have in /usr/obj should be fine;
if not I still have it in /usr/src and can rebuild/reinstall it.

So how would I do the "named only" part of an installworld?

Or, to take it another step back, how to do the "named only"
part of a buildworld, followed by the "named only part of an
installworld?

I have the dead-tree versions of both the Handbook & Lehey's
book.  Or, where might I find this/these procedures documented?

Actually, what has really happened is a "wierdness" I'm trying
to correct:  (Maybe my named has been compromised somehow but
there have been no messages in the nightly security runs.)

In the wee hours of the morning, my upstream cablemodem provider
dhcp'ed me a new ip-address.  Ok, fine...  (Dhclient seems
working fine from what the system log & tcpdump are showing.)

I can ping/traceroute (to) my system from outside (proper stuff
shows up in tcpdump too) but I can't ping/traceroute *from*
my system to anywhere (not even by ip-address).  I can ping
"myself" (the newly assigned ip-address just fine.

Hmm, name service isn't working correctly (I run a local
cache-only DNS, BIND 8.3.7, ya, old but someday...), so I kill &
restart named.  The appropriate named startup messages appear
in the messages-log, e.g. "listening on [new ip-address].
Here's the wierd part: tcpdump shows DNS "priming" requests
(to the various *.root-servers.net addresses) with a *source* ip
of my *previous* ip-address, not the new one.  So far, *no* NS
requests show the proper source address; they all show the old
ip-address & not the new one.  Also, so far, behavior survives
reloading, restarting & completely killing & restarting named.

Umm... what else can I think of...  No external IPs are in the
named config and/or zone files, only local 192.168 & 127 things.
I can't find any zombie processes so far(?)

OS is:
 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sun Nov 28 03:17:35 CST 2004

Yes, I know, very old...  I do plan to upgrade...  This system
is very creaky nowadays & I'm very reluctant to reboot it;
might not come back up.  :(

Ideas?

Many thanks,

-kc
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Migrating from 4.10-STABLE TO 6.1-STABLE questions

[up]

Hi:

I'm in the process of doing a clean install on an older server that was
running 4.10-STABLE to 6.1-STABLE.  For the most part, it's been smooth,
but I have a few questions:

On boot, I get a couple of kernel messages that don't look optimal, and I
just want to make sure there's no cause for concern.  As always, I built a
custom kernel with the stuff taken out that I'm pretty sure I don't need.
This is an Intel L440GX dual PIII-1k MB with an Adaptec SCSI RAID:

acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi: bad write to port 0x070 (8), val 0x43
acpi: bad read from port 0x071 (8)
---
I noticed that acpi isn't in the standard Kernel config but loaded from
an external file called "PAE"...is this an issue?  Should that and/or the
SMP file be edited when rebuilding the kernel?


atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on
acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
pmtimer0 on isa0

This is the serial port driver...I may want to have one serial port
enabled for remote console redirection...in the old kernel config, I'd
just choose a driver with a different IRQ...but I don't see that option in
the new GENERIC line I copied:

# Serial (COM) ports
device  sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports

I'd just like to make sure everything's ok before I stick this in a colo
center.  BTW, old FreeBSD used to put kernel binaries under /.  I don't
see them now...just curious, how is it handled now?

Thanks!

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routing on FreeBSD 6.1 (from FreeBSD 4.10)

[tim m]

hello ..

I've been doing this on FreeBSD 4.10 and it has worked very well:

# for using sip_spoof
static_routes="spt mxs"
route_spt="-net 10.0.0.138/32 -interface 213.xx.xxx.xxx -cloning"
route_mxs="default 10.0.0.138"

this is with a Speedtouch 510, doing the "sip_spoof".

I now need to use a Speedtouch 715v5 using FreeBSD 6.1. I've set up the
modem
using a beta-sip_spoof, however, it seems that this routing is not working.
Would
FreeBSD 6.1 do this differently from FreeBSD 4.10?

ta,

t.
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Re: Help building gcc41 with gcj from ports on FreeBSD 4.10

[David Pratt]

Super, thanks Dan.

Regards
David

Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Feb 27), David Pratt said:


Hi. Well getting somewhere but it looks like another hitch.

Making GCC 4.1.0 for FreeBSD 4.10  target=i386-portbld-freebsd4.10
(with Java)
===>  WARNING: Vulnerability database out of date, checking anyway
=> gcc-java-4.1-20060217.tar.bz2 is not in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/distinfo.
=> Either /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/distinfo is out of date, or
=> gcc-java-4.1-20060217.tar.bz2 is spelled incorrectly.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41.



"make makesum" will regenerate the checksums in the distinfo file.


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Re: Help building gcc41 with gcj from ports on FreeBSD 4.10

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Feb 27), David Pratt said:
> Hi. Well getting somewhere but it looks like another hitch.
> 
> Making GCC 4.1.0 for FreeBSD 4.10  target=i386-portbld-freebsd4.10
> (with Java)
> ===>  WARNING: Vulnerability database out of date, checking anyway
> => gcc-java-4.1-20060217.tar.bz2 is not in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/distinfo.
> => Either /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/distinfo is out of date, or
> => gcc-java-4.1-20060217.tar.bz2 is spelled incorrectly.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41.

"make makesum" will regenerate the checksums in the distinfo file.

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Re: Help building gcc41 with gcj from ports on FreeBSD 4.10

[David Pratt]

Hi. Well getting somewhere but it looks like another hitch.

Making GCC 4.1.0 for FreeBSD 4.10  target=i386-portbld-freebsd4.10
(with Java)
===>  WARNING: Vulnerability database out of date, checking anyway
=> gcc-java-4.1-20060217.tar.bz2 is not in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/distinfo.
=> Either /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/distinfo is out of date, or
=> gcc-java-4.1-20060217.tar.bz2 is spelled incorrectly.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41.

David Pratt wrote:

Many thanks Dan. I'll give this a try.

Regards
David


Dan Nelson wrote:


In the last episode (Feb 27), David Pratt said:


Can someone advise how to build gcc4.1 from ports with support for
gcj.  Typically a port only requires:

make
make install
make clean

What is needed to compile successfully with gcj support. Many thanks




Comment out the "WITHOUT_JAVA=yes" line in the port Makefile, but be
aware that you may need more than 1GB of RAM to build it.


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Re: Help building gcc41 with gcj from ports on FreeBSD 4.10

[David Pratt]

Many thanks Dan. I'll give this a try.

Regards
David


Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Feb 27), David Pratt said:


Can someone advise how to build gcc4.1 from ports with support for
gcj.  Typically a port only requires:

make
make install
make clean

What is needed to compile successfully with gcj support. Many thanks



Comment out the "WITHOUT_JAVA=yes" line in the port Makefile, but be
aware that you may need more than 1GB of RAM to build it.


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Re: Help building gcc41 with gcj from ports on FreeBSD 4.10

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Feb 27), David Pratt said:
> Can someone advise how to build gcc4.1 from ports with support for
> gcj.  Typically a port only requires:
> 
> make
> make install
> make clean
> 
> What is needed to compile successfully with gcj support. Many thanks

Comment out the "WITHOUT_JAVA=yes" line in the port Makefile, but be
aware that you may need more than 1GB of RAM to build it.

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Help building gcc41 with gcj from ports on FreeBSD 4.10

[David Pratt]

Can someone advise how to build gcc4.1 from ports with support for gcj. 
Typically a port only requires:


make
make install
make clean

What is needed to compile successfully with gcj support. Many thanks

Regards,
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Re: fxp0 not working after update freebsd 4.10 -> 4.11 STABLE]

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have done an update of my freebsd 4.10 to 4.11.

Before worrying about this, I would suggest you forget 4.11 and
upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0 or soon to 6.1.   I don't think any of
the 4.xxx or earlier versions area any longer supported.

I have not had any trouble with fxp[n] NICs on it.

jerry
`
> 
> after the update finished compiling kernel and mergemaster.
> 
> I have my nic fxp0 always show the link status to 'no carrier'
> 
> I trie to force media and media opt on ifconfig to value has mentioned
> on man fxp.
> 
> I have trie to recompile all the src and it's not working.
> 
> when I trie to force media with ifconfig
> the first time i ifconfig fxp0 media 10baseT/UTP, the status changer to
> active.
> 
> but when i trie to ping my gateway; nothing done.
> 
> The driver has correctly loaded in dmesg I don't see any mistake.
> 
> all of my service working on localhost and inet adresse of fxp0.
> 
> but impossible to contact any server name or ip adresse with ping.
> 
> I have ask to freenode irc channel after ask question@
> but nobody can help me.
> I have ask to unplug and plug in the cable.
> no result.
> 
> 
> Thanks you.
> 
> 
> Ha. Hakim
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fxp0 not working after update freebsd 4.10 -> 4.11 STABLE]

[Akoola]

Hello,

I have done an update of my freebsd 4.10 to 4.11.

after the update finished compiling kernel and mergemaster.

I have my nic fxp0 always show the link status to 'no carrier'

I trie to force media and media opt on ifconfig to value has mentioned
on man fxp.

I have trie to recompile all the src and it's not working.

when I trie to force media with ifconfig
the first time i ifconfig fxp0 media 10baseT/UTP, the status changer to
active.

but when i trie to ping my gateway; nothing done.

The driver has correctly loaded in dmesg I don't see any mistake.

all of my service working on localhost and inet adresse of fxp0.

but impossible to contact any server name or ip adresse with ping.

I have ask to freenode irc channel after ask question@
but nobody can help me.
I have ask to unplug and plug in the cable.
no result.


Thanks you.


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Re: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9

[Danial Thom]

--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:28:09PM -0800,
> Derrick Francis wrote:
> > Have a simple question.  If someone to
> request support for version 4.10 
> > or 4.9 how would they be supported?  Please
> let me know.  I need to 
> > verify this version of FreeBSD is still
> supported.  Thank you.
> 
> Generally speaking these old versions are not
> supported at all.  They
> might still be receiving security support (see
> http://www.freebsd.org/security/), but if you
> e.g. try to report a bug
> then you'll mostly get people telling you to
> upgrade to a supported
> version first (since after all there's a good
> chance the bug is
> already fixed).
> 
> At this point you really need to plan to
> upgrade to the 6.0 series,
> since that's where the future lies.

Sadly the "future" most likely lies in v9.0, so
hold on to 4.x for as long as you can. Hire a
programmer to fix or port stuff back. It will
save you in the long run.


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Re: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9

[Derrick Francis]

Kris,
   Thank you for the quick response.  That is exactly what I was 
looking for.


Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:28:09PM -0800, Derrick Francis wrote:
  
Have a simple question.  If someone to request support for version 4.10 
or 4.9 how would they be supported?  Please let me know.  I need to 
verify this version of FreeBSD is still supported.  Thank you.



Generally speaking these old versions are not supported at all.  They
might still be receiving security support (see
http://www.freebsd.org/security/), but if you e.g. try to report a bug
then you'll mostly get people telling you to upgrade to a supported
version first (since after all there's a good chance the bug is
already fixed).

At this point you really need to plan to upgrade to the 6.0 series,
since that's where the future lies.

Kris
  



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Re: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9

[Kris Kennaway]

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:28:09PM -0800, Derrick Francis wrote:
> Have a simple question.  If someone to request support for version 4.10 
> or 4.9 how would they be supported?  Please let me know.  I need to 
> verify this version of FreeBSD is still supported.  Thank you.

Generally speaking these old versions are not supported at all.  They
might still be receiving security support (see
http://www.freebsd.org/security/), but if you e.g. try to report a bug
then you'll mostly get people telling you to upgrade to a supported
version first (since after all there's a good chance the bug is
already fixed).

At this point you really need to plan to upgrade to the 6.0 series,
since that's where the future lies.

Kris


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Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9

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Have a simple question.  If someone to request support for version 4.10 
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Re: SSH on FreeBSD 4.10

[Babak Farrokhi]

Hi,

Your box is trying to do reverse DNS lookup and waits until DNS query times 
out. You should disable DNS lookup in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.

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> (When i asked for Username & i enter it, nothing happens...)
> so what's the problem?
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Re: SSH on FreeBSD 4.10

[P.U.Kruppa]

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, mohammad babaei wrote:


Hi,
I'm using FreeBSD 4.10 and at the moment i cannot connect to server by SSH
(puTTY)
(When i asked for Username & i enter it, nothing happens...)
so what's the problem?

Perhaps you tried to login as root?
This won't work per default.

Regards,

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SSH on FreeBSD 4.10

[mohammad babaei]

Hi,
I'm using FreeBSD 4.10 and at the moment i cannot connect to server by SSH
(puTTY)
(When i asked for Username & i enter it, nothing happens...)
so what's the problem?

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SNMP problem in FreeBSD-4.10 has been solved

[Edwin D. Vinas]

If you are having some problems with net-snmp in FreeBSD-4.10:
- Don't use latest net-snmp from sourceforge.
- Use the /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp4/ which is the original UCD-SNMP
package.
- Use also the mrtg package which comes with ports.
 Now, I can already monitor my DSL link!

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Fwd: NAT+NET-SNMP Problem+FreeBSD-4.10

[Edwin D. Vinas]

"Applications that work with identified devices, or that actually identify
devices (such as the *Simple Network Management Protocol* [SNMP] and DNS)
require very careful configuration when operating an a NAT environment." -
Source:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_7-3/anatomy.html
 Am I really right to assume that my SNMP problem was a missing
configuration in NAT?


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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

 Hi,
 This is just a follow-up on my previous posting on my problem with snmp. My
setup involves 1 DSL interface and 1 LAN interface in a FreeBSD-4.10 which
is configured as gateway and NAT router. I haven't been able to query any
SNMP data from this machine which acts as my DSL router. Was it a problem
with NAT?

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NAT+NET-SNMP Problem+FreeBSD-4.10

[Edwin D. Vinas]

Hi,
 This is just a follow-up on my previous posting on my problem with snmp. My
setup involves 1 DSL interface and 1 LAN interface in a FreeBSD-4.10 which
is configured as gateway and NAT router. I haven't been able to query any
SNMP data from this machine which acts as my DSL router. Was it a problem
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Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express and FreeBSD 4.10

[Dinesh Nair]

has anyone got the above gigabit ethernet working with freebsd 4.10 ?

patching sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c and sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h with the device 
and vendor IDs in the proper places doesnt seem to work, though the entries 
exist in the same files in the 4.11 sources. a mailing list search shows it 
working fine on the ibm t43 notebooks but on freebsd 5.4 instead. however, 
as mentioned above, RELENG_4 sources contain the device id for the 
BCM5751M, so i'd assume it'd work there too.


there seems to be no special handling of this device in the code, so 
getting it to work on 4.10 (as opposed to 4.11R) would be as simple as 
adding in the same device ids. or so i thought.


pciconf -l -v yields

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hdr=0x0

vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
class = network
subclass = ethernet

and a kldload if_bge returns (after patching in device id):

bge0:  mem 
0xc800-0xc800 irq 10 at device 0.0 on pci16

bge0: firmware handshake timed out
bge0: RX CPU self-diagnostics failed!
bge0: chip initialization failed
device_probe_and_attach: bge0 returned 6

the notebook is a HP nc6230.

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Fwd: Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10

[Vladimir Tsvetkov]

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From: Vladimir Tsvetkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005-10-6 13:57
Subject: Re: Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10
To: Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


2005/10/6, Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> fw2: env | grep LIBRA
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib/compat:/usr/local/firebird/lib:/usr/local/lib/mysql:/usr/local/lib/pth:/usr/local/lib/kde3
>
> OK part of it may be useless :)
>

Backup the value of LD_LIBRARY_PATH (just copy the string in a text
editor or somewhere else, so after this experiment you could set this
environment variable again) and now unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable.
Does this fix the problem?

Vladimir
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Re: Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10

[Vladimir Tsvetkov]

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From: Vladimir Tsvetkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005-10-6 14:05
Subject: Re: Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10
To: Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> > Does this fix the problem?
>
> It does, now I have to figure out what is the problem in the library.
>
> Both machines have the same LD_LIBRARY_PATH...
>
> Thanks, I should be able to work it out now.

This happens to be a common problem.
You might want to look at:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1630529+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2003/freebsd-questions/20031214.freebsd-questions
There is an explanation for this problem and recommendations what is
the correct way to configure ld(1).

Best Regards,
Vladimir
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Re: Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10

[Vladimir Tsvetkov]

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From: Vladimir Tsvetkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005-10-6 13:46
Subject: Re: Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10
To: Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


2005/10/6, Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > What kind of script are you trying to execute?
>
> No script, perl it self is not running.
>
> > What options did you use for building that port?
> > Are you using  THREADS and ITHREADS ?
>
> All default, make, make install
>
> > Could you apply in your nex mail the output of this command:
> >
> > # perl -V
> >
> > or even this leads to the same error-message?
>
> Same error message.

Let me see the output of:

# echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Vladimir
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Port perl 5.8.7 on FreeBSD 4.10

[Olivier Nicole]

Hi,

I have been trying to install theport of perl 5.8 on a FreeBSD machine
4.10 RELENG.

Every time I try to execute the new perl I get:


/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags"


This happens on 2 different machines, both 4.10

FreeBSD fw2.cs.ait.ac.th 4.10-RELEASE-p16 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p16 #17: Thu Sep 
29 16:04:04 ICT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/SMALL  i386

and 

FreeBSD test.cs.ait.ac.th 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #17: Thu Sep 29 
16:04:04 ICT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/SMALL  i386

Thanks for any pointer on how to solve that.

Olivier
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Re: dvd+rw on freebsd 4.10

[atk2]

bleh. I solved it by making hte device with mknod. Sorry for the spam.

Alan
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Re: dvd+rw on freebsd 4.10

[atk2]

Thank you for the comments. I am now attempting to burn my first dvd and
I keep getting this error:

bash-2.05b# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1a -R /a /b
:-( unable to cam_open_pass("/dev/pass4",O_RDWR): No such file or directory
--

I am unsure what causes this to happen. There is no /dev/pass4 but 
MAKDEV /dev/pass4 resulted in :

bash-2.05b# ls -al /dev/pass*
crw---  1 root  operator   31,   0 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass0
crw---  1 root  operator   31,   1 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass1
crw---  1 root  operator   31,   2 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass2
crw---  1 root  operator   31,   3 Jun 19 00:08 /dev/pass3
bash-2.05b#
bash-2.05b#
bash-2.05b# /dev/MAKEDEV /dev/pass4
/dev/pass4 - no such device name
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Is this a simple thing to fix ?

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Re: dvd+rw on freebsd 4.10

[Danny Howard]

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Do drives like the nec 3520 dvd-r,rw,... work ok under freebsd 4.x (9 or 10)
as well as  growisofs or do they require the 5.x branch?

FWIW, I recently procured a nice Sony DVD+RW off Amazon.com for about 
$120 or so.  Works like a charm in FreeBSD 4.x but you'll want to 
re-compile your kernel (see Handbook) to support the thing under SCSI 
for growisofs.  I'd give the model no but Amazon.com is broken at the 
moment.  Came with Nero which is nice if you've got a Windows box in 
need of burning software ...


dmesg says:

acd0: DVD-R  at ata0-master UDMA33
cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0:  Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present

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dvd+rw on freebsd 4.10

[atk2]

Do drives like the nec 3520 dvd-r,rw,... work ok under freebsd 4.x (9 or 10)
as well as  growisofs or do they require the 5.x branch?

Last but least does rw media have good (or as good as r only media) longevity
on the shelf (aka if the media is used for backups?). It seems that r and rw
media is near the same price point?

Thanks,
Alan
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Re: dhclient on FreeBSD-4.10

[David Kelly]

On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 02:43:05PM -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> I'm having a problem with dhclient on FreeBSD-4.10, where I can't seem
> to get it to work properly.

Just what are you doing to test? I suggest killing dhclient and starting
it manually, "killall dhclient; /sbin/dhclient fxp0"

Then look at the contents of /etc/resolv.conf to see if its written the
way you expect. If so then dhclient is working and named is not. The way
you stated the problem it isn't clear as to whether you have evidence
whether dhclient is not working or named.

> My ISP uses DHCP (Comcast), and I want to use my own "named" instance,
> opting to forward to theirs.   According to the dhclient.conf manpage, I
> should be able to do either of these:
> 
> interface "fxp0" {
> prepend domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
> }
> 
> # supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
> #   supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
> 
> 
> And I've tried both, they do not work.

This works for me. Could use prepend rather than supersede on
domain-name-servers and retian a fall-back failsafe direct to one's ISP.

interface "fxp0" {
supersede domain-name "home.local";
supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
}

The result of the above is:
%  cat /etc/resolv.conf
search home.local
nameserver 127.0.0.1
%

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dhclient on FreeBSD-4.10

[Forrest Aldrich]

I'm having a problem with dhclient on FreeBSD-4.10, where I can't seem
to get it to work properly.

My ISP uses DHCP (Comcast), and I want to use my own "named" instance,
opting to forward to theirs.   According to the dhclient.conf manpage, I
should be able to do either of these:

interface "fxp0" {
prepend domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
}

# supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
#   supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;


And I've tried both, they do not work.

So, either I'm doing something wrong (very likely) or I've run across a bug.



Thanks.



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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

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here's some of my bookmarks from dru lavigne's
stuff at oreilly on working with ports. the one
on portupgrade really helped jumpstart my learning
it.
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/09/18/FreeBSD_Basics.html
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On Thu, 19 May 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 09:17:32AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 08:36:58AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:

yes sorry i jumped in without reading the man page for it's useage.
however some digging and a few other helpful emails and TA DA!!! it
works!!!
i portupgraded freetype2, and then firefox built successfully.
i was under the impression that portupgrade looked after
dependencies like this on it's own however?

If you tell it to..again, please see the manpage :)
Kris

Specifically:
   -R
   --upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the
given
  packages as well. (When specified with -F,
fetch
  recursively, including the brand new,
uninstalled
  ports that an upgraded port requires)
The man page is your friend.
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don't i need to be wary of -R ?? wholesale upgrading of library's might
break other apps that use them
It's *always* a good idea to update your ports with your brain turned
on :-)
portupgrade -a is often safer, because it won't update a port but
leave other dependencies of that port than the one you specified
untouched.
Kris

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Kris Kennaway]

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 09:17:32AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
> Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> 
> >Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 08:36:58AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>>yes sorry i jumped in without reading the man page for it's useage.
> >>>however some digging and a few other helpful emails and TA DA!!! it 
> >>>works!!!
> >>>i portupgraded freetype2, and then firefox built successfully.
> >>>i was under the impression that portupgrade looked after 
> >>>dependencies like this on it's own however?
> >>>  
> >>
> >>
> >>If you tell it to..again, please see the manpage :)
> >>
> >>Kris
> >> 
> >>
> >Specifically:
> >
> >-R
> >--upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the 
> >given
> >   packages as well. (When specified with -F, 
> >fetch
> >   recursively, including the brand new, 
> >uninstalled
> >   ports that an upgraded port requires)
> >
> >The man page is your friend.
> >
> >--Alex
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> don't i need to be wary of -R ?? wholesale upgrading of library's might 
> break other apps that use them

It's *always* a good idea to update your ports with your brain turned
on :-)

portupgrade -a is often safer, because it won't update a port but
leave other dependencies of that port than the one you specified
untouched.

Kris


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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 08:36:58AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
 

yes sorry i jumped in without reading the man page for it's useage.
however some digging and a few other helpful emails and TA DA!!! it 
works!!!
i portupgraded freetype2, and then firefox built successfully.
i was under the impression that portupgrade looked after 
dependencies like this on it's own however?
  

If you tell it to..again, please see the manpage :)
Kris
 

Specifically:
-R
--upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the 
given
   packages as well. (When specified with -F, 
fetch
   recursively, including the brand new, 
uninstalled
   ports that an upgraded port requires)

The man page is your friend.
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 08:36:58AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
 

yes sorry i jumped in without reading the man page for it's useage.
however some digging and a few other helpful emails and TA DA!!! it works!!!
i portupgraded freetype2, and then firefox built successfully.
i was under the impression that portupgrade looked after dependencies 
like this on it's own however?
   

If you tell it to..again, please see the manpage :)
Kris
 

Specifically:
-R
--upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the given
   packages as well. (When specified with -F, fetch
   recursively, including the brand new, 
uninstalled
   ports that an upgraded port requires)

The man page is your friend.
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Kris Kennaway]

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 08:36:58AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:

> yes sorry i jumped in without reading the man page for it's useage.
> however some digging and a few other helpful emails and TA DA!!! it works!!!
> i portupgraded freetype2, and then firefox built successfully.
> i was under the impression that portupgrade looked after dependencies 
> like this on it's own however?

If you tell it to..again, please see the manpage :)

Kris


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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 07:51:48AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
 

nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: `struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 
`face_id'
 

   

Make sure your freetype port is up-to-date and that you don't have
stale freetype files installed from a previous non-ports install or
 

from a previous version of the port that you did not upgrade
   

correctly.  Use pkg_which from the portupgrade package to do this (see
the manpage).
Kris
 

ok maybe we have found the problem here
pkg_which freetype2-2.1.7_3
freetype2-2.1.7_3: not found
yet pkg_info see's it
   

That's not how you use pkg_which (please read the manpage!), but
you've also inadvertently shown that you need to take the first part
of my advice.
Kris
 

yes sorry i jumped in without reading the man page for it's useage.
however some digging and a few other helpful emails and TA DA!!! it works!!!
i portupgraded freetype2, and then firefox built successfully.
i was under the impression that portupgrade looked after dependencies 
like this on it's own however? is it possible in my fiddling around i 
screwed up something which prevented portupgrade upgrading freetype2?
fyi i upgraded gaim and some other stuff successfully, so everything 
seems OK

thanks for everyones help and patience, it's what makes freebsd superior.
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Kris Kennaway]

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 07:51:48AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:

> >>nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: `struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 
> >>`face_id'
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Make sure your freetype port is up-to-date and that you don't have
> >stale freetype files installed from a previous non-ports install or
> >from a previous version of the port that you did not upgrade
> >correctly.  Use pkg_which from the portupgrade package to do this (see
> >the manpage).
> >
> >Kris
> > 
> >
> ok maybe we have found the problem here
> pkg_which freetype2-2.1.7_3
> freetype2-2.1.7_3: not found
> 
> yet pkg_info see's it

That's not how you use pkg_which (please read the manpage!), but
you've also inadvertently shown that you need to take the first part
of my advice.

Kris



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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Michael Johnson]

On May 19, 2005, at 5:51 PM, Timothy Smith wrote:
Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 07:33:43AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:

Timothy Smith wrote:

it didn't like it too much. i did pkg_delete on the old version  
then i ran portinstall www/firefox
which compiled for a bit then gave the following error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2

This isn't the error though.  This is gmake stopping because of  
something previous going wrong.

Are you doing this as root?  What's the actual error?
I've compiled the latest just fine on 4.11.
--Alex
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yes i'm doing all this as root
i let it do a make install (instead of using portinstall,  
portinstall seems more verbose)
and i got this

nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: `struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no  
member named `face_id'


Make sure your freetype port is up-to-date and that you don't have
stale freetype files installed from a previous non-ports install or
from a previous version of the port that you did not upgrade
correctly.  Use pkg_which from the portupgrade package to do this  
(see
the manpage).

Kris

ok maybe we have found the problem here
pkg_which freetype2-2.1.7_3
freetype2-2.1.7_3: not found
you need freetype2 2.1.9
yet pkg_info see's it
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 07:33:43AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
 

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
   

Timothy Smith wrote:
 

it didn't like it too much. i did pkg_delete on the old version then 
i ran portinstall www/firefox
which compiled for a bit then gave the following error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2
   

This isn't the error though.  This is gmake stopping because of 
something previous going wrong.

Are you doing this as root?  What's the actual error?
I've compiled the latest just fine on 4.11.
--Alex
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yes i'm doing all this as root
i let it do a make install (instead of using portinstall, portinstall 
seems more verbose)
and i got this

nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: `struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 
`face_id'
   

Make sure your freetype port is up-to-date and that you don't have
stale freetype files installed from a previous non-ports install or
from a previous version of the port that you did not upgrade
correctly.  Use pkg_which from the portupgrade package to do this (see
the manpage).
Kris
 

ok maybe we have found the problem here
pkg_which freetype2-2.1.7_3
freetype2-2.1.7_3: not found
yet pkg_info see's it
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Kris Kennaway]

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 07:33:43AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote:
> Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> 
> >Timothy Smith wrote:
> >
> >>it didn't like it too much. i did pkg_delete on the old version then 
> >>i ran portinstall www/firefox
> >>which compiled for a bit then gave the following error
> >>
> >>
> >>gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
> >>gmake: *** [default] Error 2
> >>*** Error code 2
> >
> >
> >This isn't the error though.  This is gmake stopping because of 
> >something previous going wrong.
> >
> >Are you doing this as root?  What's the actual error?
> >
> >I've compiled the latest just fine on 4.11.
> >
> >--Alex
> >
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> yes i'm doing all this as root
> 
> i let it do a make install (instead of using portinstall, portinstall 
> seems more verbose)
> and i got this
> 
> nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: `struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 
> `face_id'

Make sure your freetype port is up-to-date and that you don't have
stale freetype files installed from a previous non-ports install or
from a previous version of the port that you did not upgrade
correctly.  Use pkg_which from the portupgrade package to do this (see
the manpage).

Kris


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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Timothy Smith wrote:
it didn't like it too much. i did pkg_delete on the old version then 
i ran portinstall www/firefox
which compiled for a bit then gave the following error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2

This isn't the error though.  This is gmake stopping because of 
something previous going wrong.

Are you doing this as root?  What's the actual error?
I've compiled the latest just fine on 4.11.
--Alex
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yes i'm doing all this as root
i let it do a make install (instead of using portinstall, portinstall 
seems more verbose)
and i got this

nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: `struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 
`face_id'
gmake[4]: *** [nsFontMetricsPS.o] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx/src/ps'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx/src'
gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Timothy Smith wrote:
it didn't like it too much. i did pkg_delete on the old version then i 
ran portinstall www/firefox
which compiled for a bit then gave the following error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2
This isn't the error though.  This is gmake stopping because of 
something previous going wrong.

Are you doing this as root?  What's the actual error?
I've compiled the latest just fine on 4.11.
--Alex
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Tony Shadwick]

It's time consuming to be sure, but cd /usr/ports && make clean?
Just going through anything obvious here.
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Timothy Smith wrote:
Josh Ockert wrote:
a tmp file? thats odd...
looks like you have some cruft hanging about
i would try booting to single-user, rm -Rf ing /tmp, rebooting, and then:
cd /usr/ports
make update (assuming you have set up your cvsup stuff to work nicely with 
this)
cd /usr/ports/www/firefox
make clean
make install

if you havent followed the handbook to set up the cvsup flags right to
handle 'make update' then follow whatever procedure you use to update
your ports.

nope it tried it again. any more ideas? i don't need to update, i only just 
cvsup'd my ports tree 5 minutes ago. i did a make clean and still the error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall92181.0 
make reinstall
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
  ! www/firefox   (install error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Tony Shadwick]

You could install portmanager, use portmanager -u and do excludes on ports 
that you suspect might break something else if upgraded.

That, and a portmanager -s will give you a nice view of the state of your 
ports tree.  Perhaps you'll see something you hadn't caught before?

On Thu, 19 May 2005, Timothy Smith wrote:
albi wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:54:07 +1000
Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

a very wild guess, perhaps you made your /tmp nosuid and noexec, and now
compilation fails because of that ?
(for me firefox compiled fine from ports some days ago, firefox-1.0.4,1)

drwxrwxrwt   9 root  wheel 1536 May 19 19:36 tmp
nope. keep in mind everyone that this is 4.10
there's nothing in /tmp that could be causing this i'm sure. is there 
anything i can do to make sure my ports and src tree's are clean besides 
make clean?

well, if your /tmp was mounted nosuid and noexec then a make world
would also fail
i have only 5.4-p1 systems in use (and not really time right now to
install 4.10 to try to reproduce this)
did you do a :
portsclean -C
portsclean -D
portupgrade -arvy


isnt' there some upgrade guide i should be reading before doing -ar ? this 
system is very  important, and while it doesn't matter if firefox is broken 
for the moment, breaking something like gnome would be a total disaster

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

albi wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:54:07 +1000
Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

a very wild guess, perhaps you made your /tmp nosuid and noexec, and now
compilation fails because of that ?
(for me firefox compiled fine from ports some days ago, firefox-1.0.4,1)
 

drwxrwxrwt   9 root  wheel 1536 May 19 19:36 tmp
nope. keep in mind everyone that this is 4.10
there's nothing in /tmp that could be causing this i'm sure. is there 
anything i can do to make sure my ports and src tree's are clean besides 
make clean?
   

well, if your /tmp was mounted nosuid and noexec then a make world
would also fail
i have only 5.4-p1 systems in use (and not really time right now to
install 4.10 to try to reproduce this)
did you do a :
portsclean -C
portsclean -D
portupgrade -arvy

 

isnt' there some upgrade guide i should be reading before doing -ar ? 
this system is very  important, and while it doesn't matter if firefox 
is broken for the moment, breaking something like gnome would be a total 
disaster

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[albi]

On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:54:07 +1000
Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >a very wild guess, perhaps you made your /tmp nosuid and noexec, and now
> >compilation fails because of that ?
> >
> >(for me firefox compiled fine from ports some days ago, firefox-1.0.4,1)
> >
> >
> drwxrwxrwt   9 root  wheel 1536 May 19 19:36 tmp
> 
> nope. keep in mind everyone that this is 4.10
> there's nothing in /tmp that could be causing this i'm sure. is there 
> anything i can do to make sure my ports and src tree's are clean besides 
> make clean?

well, if your /tmp was mounted nosuid and noexec then a make world
would also fail

i have only 5.4-p1 systems in use (and not really time right now to
install 4.10 to try to reproduce this)

did you do a :
portsclean -C
portsclean -D
portupgrade -arvy

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

albi wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:36:10 +1000
Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portinstall92181.0 make reinstall
   

a very wild guess, perhaps you made your /tmp nosuid and noexec, and now
compilation fails because of that ?
(for me firefox compiled fine from ports some days ago, firefox-1.0.4,1)

 

drwxrwxrwt   9 root  wheel 1536 May 19 19:36 tmp
nope. keep in mind everyone that this is 4.10
there's nothing in /tmp that could be causing this i'm sure. is there 
anything i can do to make sure my ports and src tree's are clean besides 
make clean?
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[albi]

On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:36:10 +1000
Timothy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
> ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
> /tmp/portinstall92181.0 make reinstall

a very wild guess, perhaps you made your /tmp nosuid and noexec, and now
compilation fails because of that ?

(for me firefox compiled fine from ports some days ago, firefox-1.0.4,1)

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Josh Ockert wrote:
a tmp file? thats odd...
looks like you have some cruft hanging about
i would try booting to single-user, rm -Rf ing /tmp, rebooting, and then:
cd /usr/ports
make update (assuming you have set up your cvsup stuff to work nicely with this)
cd /usr/ports/www/firefox
make clean
make install
if you havent followed the handbook to set up the cvsup flags right to
handle 'make update' then follow whatever procedure you use to update
your ports.
 

nope it tried it again. any more ideas? i don't need to update, i only 
just cvsup'd my ports tree 5 minutes ago. i did a make clean and still 
the error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portinstall92181.0 make reinstall
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
   ! www/firefox   (install error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Timothy Smith wrote:
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Timothy Smith wrote:
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone 
has already gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches 
to fix things like configuration issues.  Is there a reason for 
trying to re-invent all those wheels?


well whats the lastest port, how quickly are ports brought up todate 
with the current version? i'd like to be able to compile it myself 
and not have to rely on someone else.

In the case of firefox, the answer seems to be "pretty damn 
quickly".  The same is true of most popular ports.  I can only think 
of one port which I have which doesn't seem to have kept up with the 
original (fcron).  With a port you *do* compile it yourself (it's 
packages which are pre-compiled and I rarely touch those).  What you 
get are checksums, patches, dependencies calculated automatically. If 
you are desperate for a version of something which is newer than the 
port (or, older), you can still recompile it yourself, though if it's 
as complicated as firefox you are likely to run in to trouble.  You 
also get a good record of what exactly is installed on your system 
(pkg_info) and semi-automatic info about what needs upgrading (cvsup 
and portupgrade, which I highky recommend; or the newer portmanager, 
but that dumps core for me).

In the time you've been having all this trouble, I compiled and 
installed one version of firefox (1.03).  Then came various potential 
security holes, and version 1.04 came out, which I then upgraded to.  
The only hassle was waiting for it to compile!  With portupgrade it 
even remebered which configuration options I had picked the first 
time, and re-used them the second time.

--Alex
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ok sounds fair enough. i'm following the handbooks chapter on cvsup, 
i've alreayd upgraded my ports, i'm now portinstall'ing firefox 
(1.0.4) we will see how it holds up

there seems to be no chatper on portupgrade, is this because there's 
already plenty of info out there about it?
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it didn't like it too much. i did pkg_delete on the old version then i 
ran portinstall www/firefox
which compiled for a bit then gave the following error

gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portinstall25370.0 make reinstall
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
   ! www/firefox   (install error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Karel J. Bosschaart]

On Thursday 19 May 2005 08:19, Timothy Smith wrote:
> Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> > Timothy Smith wrote:
> >> i've gotten futher, i've found you can't compile it with make, you
> >> need to use gmake. sunbird compiled fine, however firefox errors with
> >>
> >> +++ making chrome /usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources  =>
> >> ../../dist/bin/chrome/en-US.jar
> >> error: file '../../toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/necko/contents.rdf'
> >> doesn't exist at ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418,  chunk 9.
> >> gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
> >> gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> >> `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources'
> >> gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
> >> gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk'
> >> gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
> >> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla'
> >> gmake: *** [default] Error 2
> >
> > Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone has
> > already gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches to fix
> > things like configuration issues.  Is there a reason for trying to
> > re-invent all those wheels?
> >
> > --Alex
>
> well whats the lastest port, how quickly are ports brought up todate
> with the current version? i'd like to be able to compile it myself and
> not have to rely on someone else.

The latest port is 1.0.4: it was updated on 05/12, one day after the release 
date of this firefox version, according to 
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ .

Recent history of the firefox port (using portdowngrade):

==
number date portversion  comment
1  2005/05/12 06:58:34  1.0.4- Update to 1.0.4
2  2005/04/26 19:30:55  1.0.3- Install .desktop file i
3  2005/04/16 04:46:48  1.0.3- Update to 1.0.3
4  2005/04/14 03:09:30  1.0.2- Remove mng support, it
5  2005/03/25 05:55:27  1.0.2* Update to 1.0.2 to fix
6  2005/03/12 10:53:09  1.0.1_3  Bump PORTREVISION to chas
7  2005/03/10 00:43:22  1.0.1_2  Update freetype2 to 2.1.9
8  2005/03/02 06:50:12  1.0.1_2  Fix the startup script so
9  2005/02/28 02:28:49  1.0.1_1  Re-add support for specif
   10  2005/02/26 09:32:01  1.0.1_1  Add a Mozilla Mozilla Plu
   11  2005/02/25 07:51:58  1.0.1* Update to 1.0.1 (see ht
   12  2005/01/02 23:27:54  1.0_7Correct a typo that preve
   13  2004/12/29 03:25:23  1.0_6- Update pkg-descr to bet
   14  2004/12/28 00:51:58  1.0_6- Remove WITH_NEW_ICON kn
   15  2004/12/15 11:52:52  1.0_5- Add EXTRACT_AFTER_ARGS

You can also look at the CVS web interface 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/firefox/ , or go to 
http://www.freshports.org .

For a very popular port such as firefox it doesn't take long to catch up with 
the most recent release.

Karel.
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Timothy Smith wrote:
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone 
has already gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches 
to fix things like configuration issues.  Is there a reason for 
trying to re-invent all those wheels?


well whats the lastest port, how quickly are ports brought up todate 
with the current version? i'd like to be able to compile it myself 
and not have to rely on someone else.

In the case of firefox, the answer seems to be "pretty damn quickly".  
The same is true of most popular ports.  I can only think of one port 
which I have which doesn't seem to have kept up with the original 
(fcron).  With a port you *do* compile it yourself (it's packages 
which are pre-compiled and I rarely touch those).  What you get are 
checksums, patches, dependencies calculated automatically. 
If you are desperate for a version of something which is newer than 
the port (or, older), you can still recompile it yourself, though if 
it's as complicated as firefox you are likely to run in to trouble.  
You also get a good record of what exactly is installed on your system 
(pkg_info) and semi-automatic info about what needs upgrading (cvsup 
and portupgrade, which I highky recommend; or the newer portmanager, 
but that dumps core for me).

In the time you've been having all this trouble, I compiled and 
installed one version of firefox (1.03).  Then came various potential 
security holes, and version 1.04 came out, which I then upgraded to.  
The only hassle was waiting for it to compile!  With portupgrade it 
even remebered which configuration options I had picked the first 
time, and re-used them the second time.

--Alex
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ok sounds fair enough. i'm following the handbooks chapter on cvsup, 
i've alreayd upgraded my ports, i'm now portinstall'ing firefox (1.0.4) 
we will see how it holds up

there seems to be no chatper on portupgrade, is this because there's 
already plenty of info out there about it?
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Timothy Smith wrote:
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone has 
already gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches to fix 
things like configuration issues.  Is there a reason for trying to 
re-invent all those wheels?


well whats the lastest port, how quickly are ports brought up todate 
with the current version? i'd like to be able to compile it myself and 
not have to rely on someone else.
In the case of firefox, the answer seems to be "pretty damn quickly".  The same is true of most popular ports.  I can only think of one port which I have which doesn't seem to have kept up with the original (fcron).  With a port you *do* compile it yourself (it's packages which are pre-compiled and I rarely touch those).  What you get are checksums, patches, dependencies calculated automatically.  

If you are desperate for a version of something which is newer than the port 
(or, older), you can still recompile it yourself, though if it's as complicated 
as firefox you are likely to run in to trouble.  You also get a good record of 
what exactly is installed on your system (pkg_info) and semi-automatic info 
about what needs upgrading (cvsup and portupgrade, which I highky recommend; or 
the newer portmanager, but that dumps core for me).
In the time you've been having all this trouble, I compiled and installed one 
version of firefox (1.03).  Then came various potential security holes, and 
version 1.04 came out, which I then upgraded to.  The only hassle was waiting 
for it to compile!  With portupgrade it even remebered which configuration 
options I had picked the first time, and re-used them the second time.
--Alex
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Timothy Smith]

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Timothy Smith wrote:
i've gotten futher, i've found you can't compile it with make, you 
need to use gmake. sunbird compiled fine, however firefox errors with

+++ making chrome /usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources  => 
../../dist/bin/chrome/en-US.jar
error: file '../../toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/necko/contents.rdf' 
doesn't exist at ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418,  chunk 9.
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources'
gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2

Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone has 
already gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches to fix 
things like configuration issues.  Is there a reason for trying to 
re-invent all those wheels?

--Alex

well whats the lastest port, how quickly are ports brought up todate 
with the current version? i'd like to be able to compile it myself and 
not have to rely on someone else.
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 11:53:53 -0500 (CDT)
Tony Shadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Then I'd suggest doing the following:
> 
> pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui
> pkg_add -r fastest-cvsup

(pkg_add -r fastest_cvsup)

> pkg_add -r portinstall
> pkg_add -r portupgrade
> pkg_add -r portdowngrade
> pkg_add -r portsmanager

all of the above can actually be replaced by using this meta-package :

pkg_add -r port-maintenance-tools

be sure to read /usr/ports/UPDATING and do a portupgrade -arvy (or
something similar) after using pkg_add -r

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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Tony Shadwick]

To say what he said a bit more nicely, do a quick read on cvsup in the 
freebsd handbook.  When you've read and understand, make a supfile that 
updates your ports tree to your liking with tag=.

Then I'd suggest doing the following:
pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui
pkg_add -r fastest-cvsup
pkg_add -r portinstall
pkg_add -r portupgrade
pkg_add -r portdowngrade
pkg_add -r portsmanager
fastest_cvsup
cvsup -g -L2 -h (server returned above) your-supfile
portmanager -s
That will give you the state of your ports tree currently.
To deal with firefox specifically:
portinstall www/firefox
to upgrade later
portupgrade www/firefox
On Mon, 16 May 2005, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
Timothy Smith wrote:
i've gotten futher, i've found you can't compile it with make, you need to 
use gmake. sunbird compiled fine, however firefox errors with

+++ making chrome /usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources  => 
../../dist/bin/chrome/en-US.jar
error: file '../../toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/necko/contents.rdf' doesn't 
exist at ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418,  chunk 9.
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources'
gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone has already 
gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches to fix things like 
configuration issues.  Is there a reason for trying to re-invent all those 
wheels?

--Alex
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Re: can't build firefox 1.0.4 on 4.10

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Timothy Smith wrote:
i've gotten futher, i've found you can't compile it with make, you 
need to use gmake. sunbird compiled fine, however firefox errors with

+++ making chrome /usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources  => 
../../dist/bin/chrome/en-US.jar
error: file '../../toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/necko/contents.rdf' 
doesn't exist at ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418,  chunk 9.
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk/resources'
gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla/netwerk'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/timothy/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
Why aren't you compiling this from the port?  With a port someone has 
already gone to the trouble of making FreeBSD specific patches to fix 
things like configuration issues.  Is there a reason for trying to 
re-invent all those wheels?

--Alex
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