Re: Compaq 1850R panics with 5.x

2003-11-10 Thread Guy Silliman
well I might have some insight into this mystery

I am currently running with a less then fully populated drive cage... I 
have 2 of the 3 1 inch 9.1gb drives in place.  I have had them placed in 
the slot 0 and slot 1 position.  And win2k server loaded fine but fbsd 
did not see the drives.

On a hunch - I just moved the drives up so that the empty spot is slot 0 
and the 2 drives are in slots 1 and 2... 4.7R saw the drives.  4.9R does 
not.  Now I am new to this chassis - I don't know if I am supposed to 
have a blank in this empty slot - but it will not matter ot me in the 
long run, as I have another 9.1gb drive on its way to fill the empty 
spot.. I just hope I do not have a buggy backplane.

Guy

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Guy Silliman wrote:

I am trying to get a Compaq 1850R running.  It is a dual PII 400MHz 
machine that works fine with Win2k server... but
I would prefer to use fbsd 5.x but I am stumped by this panic at 
sysinstall. I have searched all the lists and have tried several 
fixes mentioned including the "Full table - Mapped" and OS set to 
Win2k in the BIOS. I have tried disabling the onboard NIC as a 
possible source of conflicts but no luck.

I would be willing to go with a late 4.x but it does not probe the 
onboard SCSI  thus I have no drives.
I do have a Smart Array 3200 ordered and coming - this may solve the 
4.x issue, but I am puzzled by the panic with 5.x.

FWIW, I had identical problems with two 1850's, one PII400 single CPU 
and one PII450 dual. Both are now running fine with 4.9-REL, the first 
with a SmartArray 221 and the second with a Smart Array 3200.

There has been a few problems apparently with the sym driver for the 
built in SCSI and I'm not using it in either. For instance, I had this 
problem in 4.8-REL:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/52331
where I had 8 drives but only 4 visible.

I tend to agree with another poster that there are changes between the 
PII and PIII 1850 motherboards that makes the formar fail with 5.1 and 
the latter is ok.

just my $0.02

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Re: Compaq 1850R panics with 5.x

2003-11-10 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
Guy Silliman wrote:
I am trying to get a Compaq 1850R running.  It is a dual PII 400MHz 
machine that works fine with Win2k server... but
I would prefer to use fbsd 5.x but I am stumped by this panic at 
sysinstall. I have searched all the lists and have tried several fixes 
mentioned including the "Full table - Mapped" and OS set to Win2k in the 
BIOS. I have tried disabling the onboard NIC as a possible source of 
conflicts but no luck.

I would be willing to go with a late 4.x but it does not probe the 
onboard SCSI  thus I have no drives.
I do have a Smart Array 3200 ordered and coming - this may solve the 4.x 
issue, but I am puzzled by the panic with 5.x.

FWIW, I had identical problems with two 1850's, one PII400 single CPU 
and one PII450 dual. Both are now running fine with 4.9-REL, the first 
with a SmartArray 221 and the second with a Smart Array 3200.

There has been a few problems apparently with the sym driver for the 
built in SCSI and I'm not using it in either. For instance, I had this 
problem in 4.8-REL:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/52331
where I had 8 drives but only 4 visible.

I tend to agree with another poster that there are changes between the 
PII and PIII 1850 motherboards that makes the formar fail with 5.1 and 
the latter is ok.

just my $0.02

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Re: Compaq 1850R panics with 5.x

2003-11-10 Thread Guy Silliman
Thanks for the reply... I will give 4.8R a shot - I am trying to get 
5.1R to work... but I will pass if it is too rough for production machines.

I will also try that bios tweak.

Guy

Olaf Hoyer wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Guy Silliman wrote:

 

I am trying to get a Compaq 1850R running.  It is a dual PII 400MHz
machine that works fine with Win2k server... but
I would prefer to use fbsd 5.x but I am stumped by this panic at
sysinstall.
   

Hi!

Well, the old Compaqs have some quite rough edges, and 5.1R (or do you
use a -current snapshot?) is also in some things not that nice...
Sometimes you have to set it to NT4-OS Type.
 

I have searched all the lists and have tried several fixes mentioned
including the "Full table - Mapped" and OS set to Win2k in the BIOS.
I have tried disabling the onboard NIC as a possible source of conflicts
but no luck.
   

I had in my former company a 1850 running SMP with a 4.8-stable.
The onboard SCSI is basically a Symbios one, and it was recognized
without hassle.
(Ok, it needs the compaq tool partition to do RAID stuff, but... well,
broke it during installation)
 

I would be willing to go with a late 4.x but it does not probe the
onboard SCSI  thus I have no drives.
I do have a Smart Array 3200 ordered and coming - this may solve the 4.x
issue, but I am puzzled by the panic with 5.x.
   

That ist strange indeed, my box (dual PIII-500) went fine.
But perhaps there is also a different Mainboard in, with some
undocumented change in  the series.
HTH
Olaf
 

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Re: Compaq 1850R panics with 5.x

2003-11-10 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Guy Silliman wrote:

> I am trying to get a Compaq 1850R running.  It is a dual PII 400MHz
> machine that works fine with Win2k server... but
> I would prefer to use fbsd 5.x but I am stumped by this panic at
> sysinstall.

Hi!

Well, the old Compaqs have some quite rough edges, and 5.1R (or do you
use a -current snapshot?) is also in some things not that nice...
Sometimes you have to set it to NT4-OS Type.

> I have searched all the lists and have tried several fixes mentioned
> including the "Full table - Mapped" and OS set to Win2k in the BIOS.
> I have tried disabling the onboard NIC as a possible source of conflicts
> but no luck.
>
I had in my former company a 1850 running SMP with a 4.8-stable.
The onboard SCSI is basically a Symbios one, and it was recognized
without hassle.

(Ok, it needs the compaq tool partition to do RAID stuff, but... well,
broke it during installation)


> I would be willing to go with a late 4.x but it does not probe the
> onboard SCSI  thus I have no drives.
> I do have a Smart Array 3200 ordered and coming - this may solve the 4.x
> issue, but I am puzzled by the panic with 5.x.
>

That ist strange indeed, my box (dual PIII-500) went fine.
But perhaps there is also a different Mainboard in, with some
undocumented change in  the series.

HTH
Olaf

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Compaq 1850R panics with 5.x

2003-11-10 Thread Guy Silliman
I am trying to get a Compaq 1850R running.  It is a dual PII 400MHz 
machine that works fine with Win2k server... but
I would prefer to use fbsd 5.x but I am stumped by this panic at 
sysinstall. 
I have searched all the lists and have tried several fixes mentioned 
including the "Full table - Mapped" and OS set to Win2k in the BIOS. 
I have tried disabling the onboard NIC as a possible source of conflicts 
but no luck.

I would be willing to go with a late 4.x but it does not probe the 
onboard SCSI  thus I have no drives.
I do have a Smart Array 3200 ordered and coming - this may solve the 4.x 
issue, but I am puzzled by the panic with 5.x.



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