Error messages when booting up machine and starting KDE

2013-10-06 Thread Carmel
I have observed these messages being written to the system log when
initially booting up the machine and then starting KDE.

Oct  6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' (using servicehelper)
Oct  6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' (using servicehelper)
Oct  6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1'
Oct  6 08:16:09 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit'
Oct  6 08:16:09 scorpio console-kit-daemon[5917]: WARNING: kvm_getenvv failed: 
Oct  6 08:17:32 scorpio console-kit-daemon[5917]: WARNING: Error waiting for 
native console 1 activation: Device not configured
Oct  6 08:18:13 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.freedesktop.UPower' (using servicehelper)
Oct  6 08:18:13 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.freedesktop.UPower'
Oct  6 08:18:14 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Oct  6 08:18:14 scorpio org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Oct  6 08:18:14 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Oct  6 08:18:20 scorpio kernel: pid 6286 (kwin_opengl_test), uid 1001: exited 
on signal 11 (core dumped)
Oct  6 08:18:40 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper' (using servicehelper)
Oct  6 08:18:40 scorpio org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: 
system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may 
misbehave.
Oct  6 08:18:40 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper'
Oct  6 08:18:46 scorpio dbus[5896]: [system] Failed to activate service 
'org.freedesktop.Avahi': timed out
Oct  6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: module.c: module-detect is 
deprecated: Please use module-udev-detect instead of module-detect!
Oct  6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp0' doesn't 
support full duplex
Oct  6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp1' doesn't 
support full duplex
Oct  6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp2' doesn't 
support full duplex
Oct  6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp3' doesn't 
support full duplex
Oct  6 08:18:55 scorpio pulseaudio[6346]: oss-util.c: '/dev/dsp6' doesn't 
support full duplex
Oct  6 08:18:56 scorpio pulseaudio[6352]: pid.c: Daemon already running.

I am particularly interested in the two "WARNING" messages (5 & 6); the
"core dump" (item 12); the "timed out" (item 16) and the last one,
although that one appears to be harmless. Is there something I should
be doing to correct these apparent problems?

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Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 maintainer contact

2013-03-08 Thread Max Brazhnikov
On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:51:47 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Istvan Gabor  writes:
> 
> > I have a few specific questions regarding kde3 in freebsd.
> > As there is no freebsd kde3 list I would like to ask my questions
> > directly from port maintainer(s). Do you know how can I contact
> > them?
> 
> There isn't one. There is a k...@freebsd.org mailing list, but it's
> listed as maintaining kde4, not kde3. 

KDE 3 ports are not maintained. You can use general ports@ mailist, CCing to 
k...@freebsd.org won't hurt, but not expect much response.

Max

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Re: [kde-freebsd] ports, area51

2013-02-03 Thread ajtiM
On Sunday 03 February 2013 23:40:46 Olivier Smedts wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2013/2/3 ajtiM :
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I have installed KDE 4.9.5 and Calligra 2.5.5 from area51.
> > I am not sure how is working:
> > I use portsnap which update ports and KDE 4.9.5 ports are merged. Last
> > time I saw many update for KDE 4.8.4 which "update" KDE 4.9.5 ports and
> > so on. Does anyone knows when KDE 4.9.5 will be out in ports? They said
> > after FreeBSD 9.1 but when should be the date for "after"?
> 
> I think the answer is "now" :
> 
> http://www.freshports.org/commit.php?category=astro&port=marble&files=yes&me
> ssage_id=201302032010.r13kadmh024...@svn.freebsd.org
> 
> Cheers

Thank you.

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Re: [kde-freebsd] ports, area51

2013-02-03 Thread Olivier Smedts
Hi,

2013/2/3 ajtiM :
> Hi!
>
> I have installed KDE 4.9.5 and Calligra 2.5.5 from area51.
> I am not sure how is working:
> I use portsnap which update ports and KDE 4.9.5 ports are merged. Last time I
> saw many update for KDE 4.8.4 which "update" KDE 4.9.5 ports and so on.
> Does anyone knows when KDE 4.9.5 will be out in ports? They said after FreeBSD
> 9.1 but when should be the date for "after"?

I think the answer is "now" :

http://www.freshports.org/commit.php?category=astro&port=marble&files=yes&message_id=201302032010.r13kadmh024...@svn.freebsd.org

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Re: [kde-freebsd] tmux and konsole characters

2013-02-03 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:54:16 -0500
Andre Goree  wrote:

> Thanks!  That was it...I opened a new konsole window, set the encoding
> to UTF-8 (which my arch linux box is using) and the lines show up fine.
> 
> On a related note, I guess I can set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in my .bashrc and
> have that as my default, no?  Any nuances on en_US.UTF-8 vs. ISO8859?
> I've never really ever needed to deal with locales before, but I believe
> UTF-8 offers more characters, no?

The iso8859 encodings are 256 character maps, the UTF-8 encoding
covers the entire million character range of unicode (or iso10646 which
amounts to the same thing) how well it displays depends on the font being
used. This one has pretty good coverage.

-misc-fixed-medium-*-*-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso10646-*

There's a wonderful file around called UTF-9-demo.txt produced by
Markus Kuhn which shows off the capability of UTF-8 pretty well, and tests
your font support unmercifully (the font above can cope with the whole
document, and an up to date urxvt handles the alignment correctly).

There is a great deal to be said for adopting unicode by default,
and generally in the form of UTF-8. I regard the iso8859 encodings as
basically obsolete. Unicode has it's faults, but it is the best general
purpose encoding system available. There are also tools for unicode that
can handle problems such as correctly sorting text for different languages
which is not as easy as you might think.

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Re: [kde-freebsd] tmux and konsole characters

2013-02-03 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:54:16 -0500, Andre Goree wrote:
> On a related note, I guess I can set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in my .bashrc and
> have that as my default, no?

As far as I remember, login.conf is the file to set this, but
you can basically set environmental variables wherever you want.
For example, I have a system where I set them globally in the
C-Shell configuration, so all shells (even non-csh-shells like
bash) inherit the settings. Example from /etc/csh.cshrc:

setenv LC_ALL  en_US.UTF-8
setenv LC_MESSAGES en_US.UTF-8
setenv LC_COLLATE  de_DE.UTF-8
setenv LC_CTYPEde_DE.UTF-8
setenv LC_MONETARY de_DE.UTF-8
setenv LC_NUMERIC  de_DE.UTF-8
setenv LC_TIME de_DE.UTF-8
setenv LANGde_DE.UTF-8

Note that this creates a "settings conglomerate" from english
and german settings which looks stupid, but works (and is therefor
intended, or at least accepted as being established). :-)

Note the correct language prefix: en_US (as there's also en_GB).



> Any nuances on en_US.UTF-8 vs. ISO8859?

As soon as you have "non-standard" characters (like german umlauts)
encoded in ISO8859-1 (the default for this region) they won't show
up properly in UTF-8 (just as UTF-8 encoded umlauts will not show
up properly in a ISO8859-1 terminal session).



> I've never really ever needed to deal with locales before, but I believe
> UTF-8 offers more characters, no?

It offers many more, and especially if you're dealing with "inter-
national documents", it seems to be the best way to go at the
moment. For example, I had to work on a document containing
german umlauts and chinese characters, so UTF-8 was the solution
to have all of them properly displayed and editable.





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Re: [kde-freebsd] tmux and konsole characters

2013-02-03 Thread Andre Goree
On 02/03/13 08:06, Schaich Alonso wrote:
> On 2013-02-03, 07:51, Andre Goree wrote:
>> I'm having an issue with tmux on certain ssh connections.  When I
>> connect to my freebsd server's tmux session that has multiple panes in
>> one window, everything looks fine.  However, when I connect to my linux
>> box, I get this weird character [1] instead of a line as I would expect.
>>
>> Any ideas on how I can fix this?  Really just an annoyance rather than a
>> real issue, but I'm sure someone has come across this before and fixed
>> it.  Googling wasn't much help -- though I did find some solutions, they
>> did not work for me.
>>
>> [1]http://www.drenet.net/images/snapshot2.png
>>
>>
> 
> This looks like a character encoding issue. Are the SSH client terminal
> and the Shell on the server side using the same encodings (i.e. do the
> suffices of the output of "locale" match on both systems)?
> 
> If they don't, the konsole can be configured to use the host's encoding
> by selecting it in konsole menu -> view -> set encoding.
> 
> Alonso
> 


Thanks!  That was it...I opened a new konsole window, set the encoding
to UTF-8 (which my arch linux box is using) and the lines show up fine.

On a related note, I guess I can set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in my .bashrc and
have that as my default, no?  Any nuances on en_US.UTF-8 vs. ISO8859?
I've never really ever needed to deal with locales before, but I believe
UTF-8 offers more characters, no?

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Re: [kde-freebsd] tmux and konsole characters

2013-02-03 Thread Schaich Alonso
On 2013-02-03, 07:51, Andre Goree wrote:
> I'm having an issue with tmux on certain ssh connections.  When I
> connect to my freebsd server's tmux session that has multiple panes in
> one window, everything looks fine.  However, when I connect to my linux
> box, I get this weird character [1] instead of a line as I would expect.
> 
> Any ideas on how I can fix this?  Really just an annoyance rather than a
> real issue, but I'm sure someone has come across this before and fixed
> it.  Googling wasn't much help -- though I did find some solutions, they
> did not work for me.
> 
> [1]http://www.drenet.net/images/snapshot2.png
> 
> 

This looks like a character encoding issue. Are the SSH client terminal
and the Shell on the server side using the same encodings (i.e. do the
suffices of the output of "locale" match on both systems)?

If they don't, the konsole can be configured to use the host's encoding
by selecting it in konsole menu -> view -> set encoding.

Alonso
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Re: KDE Mouse Themes

2013-01-27 Thread Mike Clarke
On Sunday 27 Jan 2013 14:47:11 Carmel wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:09:10 -0600
> 
> ajtiM articulated:
> > Do you have:
> > 
> > System Settings - Input Devices - and there are Keyboard, Mouse and
> > Remote control.
> 
> Yes, and there is suppose to be a "themes" setting according to the KDE
> documentation; however, there is none. I have checked under every item
> setting in "system settings" for one.

Try System Settings - Workspace Appearance - Cursor Theme

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Re: KDE Mouse Themes

2013-01-27 Thread Carmel
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:09:10 -0600
ajtiM articulated:

> Do you have:
> 
> System Settings - Input Devices - and there are Keyboard, Mouse and
> Remote control.

Yes, and there is suppose to be a "themes" setting according to the KDE
documentation; however, there is none. I have checked under every item
setting in "system settings" for one.
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Re: KDE Mouse Themes

2013-01-27 Thread ajtiM
On Sunday 27 January 2013 07:26:59 Carmel wrote:
> I have KDE version 4.8.4 (4.8.4) installed on a FreeBSD-8.3 system. I
> have tried reading through the KDE documentation; however, I cannot
> find the setting on my system to change the mouse theme(s). According
> to the KDE documentation, the settings tab that should exist under
> "settings" does not. Is there some special package I have to install to
> get this ability? I cannot seem to find anything that specifically
> relates to this problem in the ports tree. I can do this so easily in
> an MS Windows environment, yet now I am just wasting time trying to do
> something that should be simple and intuitive.

Do you have:

System Settings - Input Devices - and there are Keyboard, Mouse and Remote 
control.

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KDE Mouse Themes

2013-01-27 Thread Carmel
I have KDE version 4.8.4 (4.8.4) installed on a FreeBSD-8.3 system. I
have tried reading through the KDE documentation; however, I cannot
find the setting on my system to change the mouse theme(s). According
to the KDE documentation, the settings tab that should exist under
"settings" does not. Is there some special package I have to install to
get this ability? I cannot seem to find anything that specifically
relates to this problem in the ports tree. I can do this so easily in
an MS Windows environment, yet now I am just wasting time trying to do
something that should be simple and intuitive.

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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-18 Thread Mike Clarke

On Friday 18 January 2013 16:58:11 RW wrote:
> You can carry on using 3.5 on any current release. The problem is when
> it's eventually removed from ports, updating  other ports may result in
> dependency problems.

I'm already starting to experience some problems which I assume are due to 
incompatibility with some recently upgraded dependencies and I've finally, and 
somewhat reluctantly, switched to KDE 4.8. It's certainly more bloated than 
3.5 but after getting rid of some unwanted eye candy it's not as bad as I 
expected, certainly better than last time I tried it out about a year ago. The 
most noticeable deterioration in performance is that it's much slower to start 
up than 3.5 was and kmail takes much longer to open a mail "folder" than it 
used to.

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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-18 Thread RW
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 + (GMT)
Georg Reilinger wrote:


> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a
> system 
> 
> running with KDE 3.5 once again:
> 
> 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from
> the 
> 
that's pointless

> 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep
> it for some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2
> and still have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever
> tried to install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an
> 8.2 system? Is that be possible?

You can carry on using 3.5 on any current release. The problem is when
it's eventually removed from ports, updating  other ports may result in
dependency problems. 
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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-18 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 + (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote:
> -- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore
> -- processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?
> -- That sounds totally wrong.
> 
> Is that sarcasm or irony?

I'm not sure. :-)

It just makes me sad to see that today's users with their
more-than-sufficient hardware can still run into a lack of
resources with something so "simple" as a shell window,
simply because today's "simple" isn't simple anymore.

If I look back in time... my first BSD system was a Pentium
with 150 MHz and 64 MB RAM. This machine had been running
a desktop, playing MP3 music, downloading stuff via FTP,
compiling the OS kernel, burning a CD, and still providing
a responsive web browser -- all at the same time.

Of course software matters, or to be precise: It _is_ the
software that matters. The quotient

   resources provided by hardware
overall speed  =  
   resources consumed by software

doesn't seem to improve (because both numerator and denominator
keep increasing quickly). While every release of FreeBSD
tends to run faster on the _same_ hardware, this advantage
is eaten by the "big stuff" (like desktop environments,
office suites and web browsers for example). Most people
seem to think that this is normal.

So if someone tells: "I open two shells and this almost crashes
the system", it sounds terribly wrong. I know it's not about
the actual shells, but the environment they're being used in.
That's everything I wanted to express with this statement.




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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-18 Thread Georg Reilinger
-- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore
-- processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?
-- That sounds totally wrong.

Is that sarcasm or irony?





 Von: Polytropon 
An: Georg Reilinger  
CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"  
Gesendet: 5:24 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013
Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD
 
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 + (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote:
> As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. 

As for other desktop environments, yes.



> Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in 
> assuming this?

I think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal,
as KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems
to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD
due to lack of contribution.



> I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8.

May I ask which live system this is?



> The thing 
> here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is 
> impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a 
> given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after 
> having 
> turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...

Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore
processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?
That sounds totally wrong.

When you play a music file and move the window, do you get skipping
audio, too?

Just scary...



> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system 
> running with KDE 3.5 once again:
> 
> 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the 
> precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.
> Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.

Yes, this will work. But note that you are running an OS that
has been gone out of support, so you probably won't be able
to install "newer" software using ports or packages. However,
you can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long 
as the distfiles are still kept available online.



> 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for 
> some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still 
> have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to 
> install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? 
> Is that be possible?

That should be possible if you install the required compat7x
port on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure
you won't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to
install the KDE stuff on a "clean" system (right after compat7x)
so there won't be much confusion.




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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-17 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 + (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote:
> As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. 

As for other desktop environments, yes.



> Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in 
> assuming this?

I think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal,
as KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems
to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD
due to lack of contribution.



> I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8.

May I ask which live system this is?



> The thing 
> here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is 
> impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a 
> given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after 
> having 
> turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...

Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore
processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?
That sounds totally wrong.

When you play a music file and move the window, do you get skipping
audio, too?

Just scary...



> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system 
> running with KDE 3.5 once again:
> 
> 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the 
> precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.
> Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.

Yes, this will work. But note that you are running an OS that
has been gone out of support, so you probably won't be able
to install "newer" software using ports or packages. However,
you can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long 
as the distfiles are still kept available online.



> 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for 
> some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still 
> have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to 
> install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? 
> Is that be possible?

That should be possible if you install the required compat7x
port on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure
you won't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to
install the KDE stuff on a "clean" system (right after compat7x)
so there won't be much confusion.




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:06:15 +0100, Georg Reilinger  
 wrote:

http://www.trinitydesktop.org/


Oops, I've forgotten that there is that fork. However, I suspect that KDE  
and GNOME forks will suffer from Qt and GTK dependencies, resp. the  
manpower (coders and user base, aka testers) to maintain the forks. A lot  
of people don't like that DEs do look like and behave similar as DEs for  
tablet PCs do, so in the near future, those forks might become more  
important. OTOH KDE 4 still is a classic DE and not one of those tablet PC  
like DEs.

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Re: [Bulk] FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-17 Thread Mike Jeays


On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 + (GMT)
Georg Reilinger  wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> 
> My issue is the following:
> 
> As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. 
> 
> Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in 
> 
> assuming this?
> 
> 
> I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing 
> 
> here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is 
> 
> impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a 
> 
> given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after 
> having 
> 
> turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...
> 
> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system 
> 
> running with KDE 3.5 once again:
> 
> 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the 
> 
> precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.
> Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html
> 
> This is something that I don't really feel like doing.
> 
> 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for 
> some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still 
> have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to 
> install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? 
> Is that be possible?
> 
> 
> Any other solutions?
> 
> 
> Many thanks
> Georg
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I run xfce4 with FreeBSD 9.0 on an old Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB, and it works 
well. Resource
requirements are much less than the latest KDE, and Unity is even more 
unworkable.
KDE and Gnome have got very bloated in the last few years, IMHO and less 
intuitive.
They seem to be going backwards. The multiple desktop feature is one of the main
things that set Unix-style desktops way ahead of Windows, and now they have 
become
harder to use.

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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-17 Thread Georg Reilinger





 Von: Ralf Mardorf 
An: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"  
Gesendet: 2:37 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013
Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD 
 
-- Some decisions from upstream are a PITA. I'm from Linux, it's more 
up-to-date than FreeBSD. On Linux I switched from KDE 3 to GNOME 2, when KDE 4 
was introduced and from GNOME 2 to Xfce, when GNOME 3 was introduced.

I have tried both, GNOME and Xfce. Found both to be kinda yuckie. Not really 
feeling at home here.


-- There are forks of GNOME 2, but I guess there's no fork of KDE 3. 

Actually there is. It is called Trinity: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ , but I 
don't know, if it is currently supported on FreeBSD.
If not, may be a reason, to become a porter!

-- Some users claim that it should be possible to set up KDE 4, that it become 
equal to KDE 3. I doubt that. 

I highly and holily second that. I have heard quite a few people complain about 
KDE 4's heavy hunger for resources.

-- Another issue are hard dependencies, such as the dependency to the buggy 
pulseaudio. You better get rid of KDE and start to accustom to another DE.

This would be my very last option. As you can see, I am still working on a go 
around here.


2 Cents,
Ralf
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Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Some decisions from upstream are a PITA. I'm from Linux, it's more  
up-to-date than FreeBSD. On Linux I switched from KDE 3 to GNOME 2, when  
KDE 4 was introduced and from GNOME 2 to Xfce, when GNOME 3 was  
introduced. There are forks of GNOME 2, but I guess there's no fork of KDE  
3. Some users claim that it should be possible to set up KDE 4, that it  
become equal to KDE 3. I doubt that. Another issue are hard dependencies,  
such as the dependency to the buggy pulseaudio. You better get rid of KDE  
and start to accustom to another DE.


2 Cents,
Ralf
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FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-17 Thread Georg Reilinger
Hi everybody,


My issue is the following:

As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. 

Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in 

assuming this?


I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing 

here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is 

impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a 

given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after 
having 

turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...

As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system 

running with KDE 3.5 once again:

1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the 

precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.
Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html

This is something that I don't really feel like doing.

2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for 
some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still 
have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to 
install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? 
Is that be possible?


Any other solutions?


Many thanks
Georg
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[solved] KDE trouble, perhaps related to display wizard usage

2012-12-14 Thread Mardorf Ralf
By deleting ~/.kde4  the issues were fixed and I got the wanted CRT frequencies 
by manually editing xorg.conf.

OT: IIUC it's possible to backup a running FreeBSD, by using the "L" switch and 
by running the following commands, my FreeBSD install is completely backuped.
Is this right?

[rocketmouse@freebsd] /etc# cat fstab
# Device    Mountpoint  FStype  Options Dump 
Pass
/dev/label/rootfs0  /   ufs rw,noatime  
1   1
/dev/label/swap0    none    swap    sw  
0   0
/dev/label/var0 /var    ufs rw,noatime  
1   1
/dev/label/usr0 /usr    ufs rw,noatime  
1   1
procfs  /proc   procfs  rw  
0   0
linprocfs   /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs   rw  
0   0
[rocketmouse@freebsd] /etc# dump -0Launf - /dev/label/rootfs0 | bzip2 > 
/media/unused8/rootfs0-2012-12-14.dump
[snip]  
DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: level 0 dump on Fri Dec 14 21:49:37 2012    
DUMP IS DONE!    

  DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
[rocketmouse@freebsd] /etc# dump -0Launf - /dev/label/var0 | bzip2 > 
/media/unused8/var0-2012-12-14.dump
[snip] 
DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: level 0 dump on Fri Dec 14 21:53:38 2012    
DUMP IS DONE!    

  DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
[rocketmouse@freebsd] /etc# dump -0Launf - /dev/label/usr0 | bzip2 > 
/media/unused8/usr0-2012-12-14.dump
[still in progress]

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: KDE trouble, perhaps related to display wizard usage

2012-12-13 Thread Michael Powell
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 13:08 -0500, Michael Powell wrote about drivers.
> 
> I tested vesa, ati and radeonhd before I posted my request. There where
> tons of resolutions available and there aren't performance issues. Just
> the frequencies are to low. However, at the moment I want to be able to
> use GUIs on KDE, to get a panel back, that is always accessible. Perhaps
> KDE gets broken, when I edited the panel settings, buy using the
> correlated GUI.
> 

OK - in spite of X supposedly being capable of true auto-configure these 
days I still use a hand-crafted xorg.conf to get what I want. That being 
said, this description gives me the idea that this is a KDE problem and not 
Xorg related, per se.

Easiest way to test KDE is to either rename the .kde folder to something 
like .kde-backup and log out and back in again. You can achieve the same 
thing by creating another user account as well, and when you log in as that 
user you will be starting KDE config all over again from scratch. If problem 
disappears with this there is a botched KDE config somewhere.

This also sounds vaguely like something I heard about wrt to some Plasma bug 
a version or two back in KDE. Don't recall exact details as I never 
experienced it. One time when I did have some small glitch I found when I 
renamed or deleted the ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc file and restarted KDE, 
starting over fixed my problem. YMMV

Could also try Googling something concerning 'disappearing Plasma panels' 
and see if there are any hits on this as a Plasma related bug.

-Mike



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Re: KDE trouble, perhaps related to display wizard usage

2012-12-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 13:08 -0500, Michael Powell wrote about drivers.

I tested vesa, ati and radeonhd before I posted my request. There where
tons of resolutions available and there aren't performance issues. Just
the frequencies are to low. However, at the moment I want to be able to
use GUIs on KDE, to get a panel back, that is always accessible. Perhaps
KDE gets broken, when I edited the panel settings, buy using the
correlated GUI.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: KDE trouble, perhaps related to display wizard usage

2012-12-13 Thread Michael Powell
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> Hi :)
> 
> the KDE 4 desktop does cause issues, since I set up the panel and then
> booted with display wizard enabled, on PC-BSD 8.2 64-bit.
> 
> The last panel I add often isn't visible and accessible, but the first
> panel did work before I restarted with display wizard enabled. I add
> several panels, that are invisible and not accessible. Resetting
> graphics and monitor settings using display wizard doesn't solve the
> issue.
> 
> Opened window apps aren't shown on the desktop.
> 
> Any ideas what's broken that I can't access, resp. seldom can access the
> panel and that the application's windows aren't accessible (only shown
> in the panel, assumed there is a panel, but not shown on the desktop)?
> 
> FWIW changing the X settings doesn't please me, I'll test a xorg.conf
> that I used with Linux and for sure I'll switch to another DE, on Linux
> I e.g. prefer Xfce4, but I guess first I should set up the default
> install to my needs.
> 

I don't use KDE with FreeBSD any longer, however, FWIW a couple of generic 
ideas to maybe get you started. I've never had much luck with the KDE system 
config monitor tool. But one thing to notice - if only 3 resolutions such as 
640,800, & 1024 are listed it may be an indicator you have only these VESA 
modes available.

This is most likely due to not having the mfr's binary blob drivers 
installed, rather than using the open source variants. The open source 
versions (Nouveau for Nvidia) lag behind the mfr blob in terms of 
performance and feature support.

KDE really demands having the best drivers runnning. Performance issues can 
be examined in a couple of areas. You can disable the Desktop Effects as well 
as change the rendering backend from OpenGL to XRender. XRender might be 
more suitable for older, really low end video cards while OpenGL is more 
horsepower intensive.

I've used radeonhd driver before a couple of years ago, and nowadays use a 
Nvidia GTS 450. What I don't have experience with is the Intel graphics. 
However, the essential thing of getting off of VESA and into hardware 
accelerated via drivers might be something to look at.

-Mike



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KDE trouble, perhaps related to display wizard usage

2012-12-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

the KDE 4 desktop does cause issues, since I set up the panel and then
booted with display wizard enabled, on PC-BSD 8.2 64-bit.

The last panel I add often isn't visible and accessible, but the first
panel did work before I restarted with display wizard enabled. I add
several panels, that are invisible and not accessible. Resetting
graphics and monitor settings using display wizard doesn't solve the
issue.

Opened window apps aren't shown on the desktop.

Any ideas what's broken that I can't access, resp. seldom can access the
panel and that the application's windows aren't accessible (only shown
in the panel, assumed there is a panel, but not shown on the desktop)?

FWIW changing the X settings doesn't please me, I'll test a xorg.conf
that I used with Linux and for sure I'll switch to another DE, on Linux
I e.g. prefer Xfce4, but I guess first I should set up the default
install to my needs.

Ciao,
Ralf

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Re: Problems after updating KDE

2011-10-19 Thread Johan Hendriks

Johan Hendriks schreef:
So you could say ortp has merged into ortp. 

should read So you could say ortp has merged into linphone

Sorry for any confusion caused.

regards
Johan
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Re: Problems after updating KDE

2011-10-19 Thread Johan Hendriks

Carmel schreef:

I have had numerous problems after updating to the latest KDE
version. For starters, I lost my desktop and only had a blank (black)
screen when starting up. I did manage to figure out how to correct
that, but numerous other problems exist.

For starters:

1) The (ALT)+(TAB) key no longer works. It doesn't switch between
applications or anything.

2) I lost my desktop configuration completely. I have tried to restore
it but I cannot find a way to add a URL shortcut to the desktop. There
is no option in the menu, or at least none that I can find.

3) I use to use a (CTRL)(ALT)(V) combination to activate the "klipper"
clipboard. That no longer works. In fact, virtually all of my shortcut
keys have vanished.

To the best of my knowledge I followed the directions in the UPDATINg
file correctly. "Portmaster" bombed out twice so I had to resort to
using "portupgrade" to complete the task. This command always fails:

ortmaster -o net/linphone-base ortp

With this error:


===>   linphone-base-3.2.1_1,1 conflicts with installed package(s):
   ortp-0.13.0_1


So I guess I will have to delete both packages and start over. I am
just not sure which package to delete.

As i understand things correctly, the ortp port is no longer needed as 
linphone is doing the ortp part.

So you could say ortp has merged into ortp.

deleting ortp is the right choice.

regards,
Johan Hendriks
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Problems after updating KDE

2011-10-19 Thread Carmel
I have had numerous problems after updating to the latest KDE
version. For starters, I lost my desktop and only had a blank (black)
screen when starting up. I did manage to figure out how to correct
that, but numerous other problems exist.

For starters:

1) The (ALT)+(TAB) key no longer works. It doesn't switch between
applications or anything.

2) I lost my desktop configuration completely. I have tried to restore
it but I cannot find a way to add a URL shortcut to the desktop. There
is no option in the menu, or at least none that I can find.

3) I use to use a (CTRL)(ALT)(V) combination to activate the "klipper"
clipboard. That no longer works. In fact, virtually all of my shortcut
keys have vanished.

To the best of my knowledge I followed the directions in the UPDATINg
file correctly. "Portmaster" bombed out twice so I had to resort to
using "portupgrade" to complete the task. This command always fails:

ortmaster -o net/linphone-base ortp

With this error:


===>  linphone-base-3.2.1_1,1 conflicts with installed package(s): 
  ortp-0.13.0_1


So I guess I will have to delete both packages and start over. I am
just not sure which package to delete.

-- 
Carmel ✌
carmel...@hotmail.com

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Re: KDE on FreeBSD

2011-07-11 Thread Tilman Keskinöz

On Jul 10, 2011, at 21:18 , Steven Friedrich wrote:
> I'm wondering if kaffeine has been abandoned, since there is a message in the 
> kaffeine port
> 
> Changes:
> 8 weeks   arved   Attempt to fix build Reported by: pointyhat Drop 
> Maintainership 
> 

I just resetted maintainership, because i don't have enough time for it.
I expected someone else to pick it up, but so far this has not happened.

> I LOVE kaffeine, but it appears to have many user interface bugs, yet many 
> advanced features. Is it simply that KDE4 development is delaying development 
> of kaffeine, or did the kaffeine guy give up?

The kaffeine guy seems to be a bit busy, there is not much traffic on the
kaffeine mailinglist. But it is not abandonware.

> I've submitted several bugs to KDE and I see them on 
> kaffeine.sourceforge.net, 
> but with someoe else's name (which I elieve means the kaffeine guy is still 
> active, just overwhelmed).  There are bugs there that go back to 2005 as 
> unconfirmed.  All  the bugs marked as FreeBSD came from me.

Did you also submit a patches?

If there are patches i can probably test and commit them.

regards
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Re: KDE on FreeBSD

2011-07-10 Thread Antonio Olivares
> I'd love to help, if someone could help me find a JOB.  In the US, virtualy no
> one runs FreeBSD, so I am unable to find a job, even with 34 years experience.
> ___

Virtually, right?
Maybe they do run FreeBSD on a virtual machine?  There are no stats to
back this up either way so we will be at a loss here :(

> I have been avoiding MicroSux WinBlows jobs.  I would rather leave the
> profession than support that garbage.

If you can have a computer shop/area for fixing computers fixing those
MS machines would be the way to make money.  I have a friend who is a
computer technician and he is very happy with the "garbage" that you
mention.  He says that because there are many careless users and the
"garbage" allows other "garbage"(virii, spyware, malware, etc) to come
in; he has a job and a way to provide for his family.  He can take his
kids to mcdonalds and get them a happy meal take out his family to
watch a movie.  I tell him the same thing like you mention, but he
says that fixing those machines that are out there is something that
he has to do to at least make ends meet and no, it is not support from
MS, it is a job to clean/wipe those machines to make them workable
again :)
support from M$ would be more money and I remember folks that get
burned at the stake for getting a job from those guys :(

Regards,

Antonio
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KDE on FreeBSD

2011-07-10 Thread Steven Friedrich
The Newsflash page has a link to freebsd.kde.org, which has a broken link, 
http://freebsd.kde.org/contact.php

I'm wondering if kaffeine has been abandoned, since there is a message in the 
kaffeine port

Changes:
8 weeks arved   Attempt to fix build Reported by: pointyhat Drop 
Maintainership 

I LOVE kaffeine, but it appears to have many user interface bugs, yet many 
advanced features. Is it simply that KDE4 development is delaying development 
of kaffeine, or did the kaffeine guy give up?

I've submitted several bugs to KDE and I see them on kaffeine.sourceforge.net, 
but with someoe else's name (which I elieve means the kaffeine guy is still 
active, just overwhelmed).  There are bugs there that go back to 2005 as 
unconfirmed.  All  the bugs marked as FreeBSD came from me.

I'd love to help, if someone could help me find a JOB.  In the US, virtualy no 
one runs FreeBSD, so I am unable to find a job, even with 34 years experience.  
I have been avoiding MicroSux WinBlows jobs.  I would rather leave the 
profession than support that garbage.
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Re: How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome

2011-05-02 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Riack Raacvöejaמיכלאנג'לו
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed PC-BSD 8.2 (FreeBSD 8.2)  in my laptop,
> I would like to know, How to remove KDE

>and How to install
> Gnome from shell.

http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html

But since you are using PCBSD look for a Gnome PBI :)

http://www.pbidir.com/bt/pbi/132

http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193

However, you are on your own :(

Regards,

Antonio
>
> I hope to receive information from you.
>
> --
> ===
> Thanks &
> Best Regards,
> Riack מיכלאנג'לו
>
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How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome

2011-05-02 Thread Riack Raacvöejaמיכלאנג'לו
Hi,

I installed PC-BSD 8.2 (FreeBSD 8.2)  in my laptop,
I would like to know, How to remove KDE and How to install
Gnome from shell.

I hope to receive information from you.

-- 
===
Thanks &
Best Regards,
Riack מיכלאנג'לו

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Re: Unable to update to kde-4.6.1

2011-03-30 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
try uninstalling cmake
cd /usr/ports/devel/cmake
make deinstall
make install clean
-jahan


On 3/27/11, Jerry  wrote:
> After following the instructions in UPDATING, I am still experiencing
> a problem getting KDE-4 updated. I have tried several different
> methods. The following is the output of the last attempt.
>
> ===>   kde4-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not
> found
> ===>Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in
> /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime
> ===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
> ===>  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
> ===>  Found saved configuration for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
> ===>  Extracting for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
> => SHA256 Checksum OK for KDE/kdebase-runtime-4.6.1.tar.bz2.
> /bin/mkdir -p
> /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime/work/kdebase-runtime-4.6.1/build
> ===>  Patching for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
> ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so -
> found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on executable: gmake - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
> /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
> /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
> /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
> /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 -
> found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 -
> found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: IlmImf.6 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: exiv2.9 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: xine.1 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: slp.1 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: smbclient.0 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: ssh.4 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: attica.0 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: canberra.0 - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: intl - found
> ===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: kimproxy.5 - found
> ===>  Configuring for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
> /bin/mkdir -p
> /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime/work/kdebase-runtime-4.6.1/build
> -- The C compiler identification is GNU
> -- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
> -- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
> -- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
> -- Detecting C compiler ABI info
> -- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
> -- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
> -- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
> -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
> -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
> CMake Error at /usr/local/share/cmake/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):
>   ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   CMakeLists.txt:14 (find_package)
>
>
> CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
>   No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
>
> cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)
>
>   should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be
> lower
>   if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
>   information run "cmake --help-policy CMP".
> This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
>
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4.
>
> --
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Unable to update to kde-4.6.1

2011-03-27 Thread Jerry
After following the instructions in UPDATING, I am still experiencing
a problem getting KDE-4 updated. I have tried several different
methods. The following is the output of the last attempt.

===>   kde4-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not found
===>Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime
===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===>  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
===>  Found saved configuration for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
===>  Extracting for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for KDE/kdebase-runtime-4.6.1.tar.bz2.
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime/work/kdebase-runtime-4.6.1/build
===>  Patching for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on executable: gmake - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: IlmImf.6 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: exiv2.9 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: xine.1 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: slp.1 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: smbclient.0 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: ssh.4 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: attica.0 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: canberra.0 - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: intl - found
===>   kdebase-runtime-4.6.1 depends on shared library: kimproxy.5 - found
===>  Configuring for kdebase-runtime-4.6.1
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime/work/kdebase-runtime-4.6.1/build
-- The C compiler identification is GNU
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
CMake Error at /usr/local/share/cmake/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):
  ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  CMakeLists.txt:14 (find_package)


CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
  No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as

cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)

  should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be lower
  if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
  information run "cmake --help-policy CMP".
This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4.

-- 
Jerry
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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-17 Thread Foo JH

Hello all, including the guys who responded.

Thanks for the comments and tips/ links. I'd see what I can do to move 
fwd on the issue.


Appreciate your feedback!

On 3/10/2011 11:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:

I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:

Hi guys,

I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to
read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any
popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile
new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu
Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really
wanted the GUI).

If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/
Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this
email!

Thanks.
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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/11/2011 01:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen  wrote:
>> Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a
>> regular basis?
>> Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications)
>> on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g.
>> unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating.
> I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new
> perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a
> linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it.
> Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI
> tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice.
> This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what
> you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any
> administrator. :-)

I definitely agree here.

>> Webmin is a  good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering
>> your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer
>> almost every aspect of your servers with it.
> That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system.
> Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your
> accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin
> can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with
> patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting
> things from a list.
>
Agree here too. Webmin can be secured and audited very well, but still the
more services that are available, the greater the security risks will be.
Only from the commandline you have all options for configuration of
different services available and it's the fastest way to do things.
For graphical oriented users I think that Webmin is a real good solution and
gives a way to get into the use of the commandline and configuration files.


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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
Well. I don't really know what I'm doing but you offer some great
advice, thanks. For an old man I learn fast, I don't mind doing research
and of course RTFM :-)

On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:10 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen  wrote:
> > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a
> > regular basis?
> > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications)
> > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g.
> > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating.
> 
> I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new
> perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a
> linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it.
> Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI
> tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice.
> This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what
> you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any
> administrator. :-)


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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen  wrote:
> Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a
> regular basis?
> Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications)
> on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g.
> unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating.

I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new
perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a
linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it.
Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI
tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice.
This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what
you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any
administrator. :-)



> Webmin is a  good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering
> your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer
> almost every aspect of your servers with it.

That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system.
Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your
accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin
can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with
patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting
things from a list.





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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
Thank you, being a Windows guy, I didn't know about webmin, tried it and
was impressed. New Server coming up no GUI...

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
> > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
> > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
> > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
> > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
> >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
> >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
> >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
> >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
> >> wanted the GUI).
> Hi
> Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
> Do you all work directly on the consoles?
> Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
> access your servers remotely?
> It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
> services from the commandline with ssh.
> Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
> This is what I tend to roll-out for other
> (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
> this works great for them.
> 
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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 01:46 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
>> A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before
>> Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have
>> a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes
>> harder (memory loss)...
On the other hand, you might want to try PC-BSD.
I think it is very well supported and up to date and comes with GUI parts
and the option to install as FreeBSD

> Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a
> regular basis?
> Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications)
> on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g.
> unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating.
> Webmin is a  good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering
> your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer
> almost every aspect of your servers with it.
> Also you might want to take a look at:
> http://www.freebsdforums.org/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/
>
>> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
>>> On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
 I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
 research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
 Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
 it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/

 On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
> wanted the GUI).
>>> Hi
>>> Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
>>> Do you all work directly on the consoles?
>>> Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
>>> access your servers remotely?
>>> It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
>>> services from the commandline with ssh.
>>> Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
>>> This is what I tend to roll-out for other
>>> (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
>>> this works great for them.



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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
> A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before
> Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have
> a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes
> harder (memory loss)...
Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a
regular basis?
Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications)
on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g.
unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating.
Webmin is a  good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering
your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer
almost every aspect of your servers with it.
Also you might want to take a look at:
http://www.freebsdforums.org/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/

> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
>> On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
>>> I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
>>> research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
>>> Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
>>> it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
 read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
 popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
 new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
 Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
 wanted the GUI).
>> Hi
>> Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
>> Do you all work directly on the consoles?
>> Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
>> access your servers remotely?
>> It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
>> services from the commandline with ssh.
>> Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
>> This is what I tend to roll-out for other
>> (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
>> this works great for them.



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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before
Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have
a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes
harder (memory loss)...

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
> > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
> > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
> > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
> > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
> >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
> >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
> >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
> >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
> >> wanted the GUI).
> Hi
> Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
> Do you all work directly on the consoles?
> Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
> access your servers remotely?
> It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
> services from the commandline with ssh.
> Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
> This is what I tend to roll-out for other
> (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
> this works great for them.
> 
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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-09 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
> I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
> research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
> Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
> it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/
>
> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
>> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
>> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
>> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
>> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
>> wanted the GUI).
Hi
Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
Do you all work directly on the consoles?
Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
access your servers remotely?
It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
services from the commandline with ssh.
Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
This is what I tend to roll-out for other
(graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
this works great for them.


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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-09 Thread Juan C. Valido
I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
> wanted the GUI).
> 
> If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ 
> Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this 
> email!
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any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-09 Thread Foo JH

Hi guys,

I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
wanted the GUI).


If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ 
Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this 
email!


Thanks.
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Re: KDE on FreeBSD 8.1 - Akonadi Control Process Not Registered at D-Bus

2011-02-04 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 00:23:31 +0600
Alexey Serebryakoff  articulated:

> This is my /etc/rc.conf
> 
> ...
> hald_enable="YES" 
>   
> 
> polkitd_enable="YES"  
>   
> 
> dbus_enable="YES" 
>   
> 
> local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d" 
>   
> 
> kdm4_enable="YES"
> ...


I had a friend who had a problem with Akonadi also, although it was
failing with MySQL and dbus. For whatever reason, he ran
"mysql_upgrade", rebooted the system and the problem went away. Perhaps
it was just a coincidence. In any event, he does not have a
"polkitd_enable" statement in the rc.conf file, nor a "local_startup"
one either.

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Re: KDE on FreeBSD 8.1 - Akonadi Control Process Not Registered at D-Bus

2011-02-04 Thread Alexey Serebryakoff
This is my /etc/rc.conf

...
hald_enable="YES"   


polkitd_enable="YES"


dbus_enable="YES"   


local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"   


kdm4_enable="YES"
...

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В сообщении от Пятница 04 февраля 2011 23:27:51 автор Bahman Kahinpour 
написал:
> Hello,
> 
> I have installed X.org and KDE on my FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (directly
> from the packages collection on the Installation DVD-ROM) and I have
> taken these steps:
> +/etc/rc.conf: dbus_enable="YES"
> +/etc/rc.conf: hald_enable="YES"
> and also:
> I have added startkde4 to .xinitrc
> 
> While using KDE, I continuously receive these errors:
> Akonadi Control Process Not Registered at D-Bus
> Akonadi Server Process Not Registered at D-Bus
> .
> .
> .
> 
> What is this Akonadi problem all about? How may I fix this thing?
> 
> Thanks
> Bahman Kahinpour
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KDE on FreeBSD 8.1 - Akonadi Control Process Not Registered at D-Bus

2011-02-04 Thread Bahman Kahinpour
Hello,

I have installed X.org and KDE on my FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (directly
from the packages collection on the Installation DVD-ROM) and I have
taken these steps:
+/etc/rc.conf: dbus_enable="YES"
+/etc/rc.conf: hald_enable="YES"
and also:
I have added startkde4 to .xinitrc

While using KDE, I continuously receive these errors:
Akonadi Control Process Not Registered at D-Bus
Akonadi Server Process Not Registered at D-Bus
.
.
.

What is this Akonadi problem all about? How may I fix this thing?

Thanks
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Re: gnome to kde

2010-12-30 Thread Eitan Adler
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:53 AM, xinyou yan  wrote:
>  I want to use kde instead of  gnome
>
> How can i delete gnome  completely
> (I am afraid to  delete others or less delete )

Use pkg_rmleaves (ports) to remove the "leaf" ports of gnome and keep
in going thru until you don't see anything to gnome related. IMHO its
better when doing such a massive switch to either a) delete all the
ports from your system and start from scratch or b) leave the kde
stuff and delete the ones you don't use during your normal cleaning
cycle.

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gnome to kde

2010-12-30 Thread xinyou yan
 I want to use kde instead of  gnome

How can i delete gnome  completely
(I am afraid to  delete others or less delete )

thank you
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Re: Building kdiff3 for kde 3.5

2010-11-19 Thread doug

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Maciej Milewski wrote:


On Wednesday 17 November 2010 08:37:51, d...@safeport.com wrote:

Apparently only the version for kde4 is on the ports and I could not find a
package for 3.5. Building the available source had some interesting results
but ultimate did not work. What I finally did was google the 3.5 package
name I had installed and found a copy at the University of Kent.

There must be a better way to find older ports/packages. What should I have
done?

From kdiff3 homepage looks that from version 0.9.93 kdiff3 works with KDE4.
Earlier version worked with KDE3 only. In ports is version 0.9.95 and in
Makefile it's line USE_KDE4 so it builds with KDE4. You can take earlier port
version 0.9.92 manually from
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/textproc/kdiff3/
or use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade

Regards,
Maciej Milewski


Thank you, portdowngrade worked perfectly. I doubt I would have found this 
without your help

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Re: Building kdiff3 for kde 3.5

2010-11-17 Thread Maciej Milewski
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 08:37:51, d...@safeport.com wrote:
> Apparently only the version for kde4 is on the ports and I could not find a
> package for 3.5. Building the available source had some interesting results
> but ultimate did not work. What I finally did was google the 3.5 package
> name I had installed and found a copy at the University of Kent.
> 
> There must be a better way to find older ports/packages. What should I have
> done?
From kdiff3 homepage looks that from version 0.9.93 kdiff3 works with KDE4. 
Earlier version worked with KDE3 only. In ports is version 0.9.95 and in 
Makefile it's line USE_KDE4 so it builds with KDE4. You can take earlier port 
version 0.9.92 manually from 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/textproc/kdiff3/
or use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade

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Building kdiff3 for kde 3.5

2010-11-16 Thread doug
Apparently only the version for kde4 is on the ports and I could not find a 
package for 3.5. Building the available source had some interesting results but 
ultimate did not work. What I finally did was google the 3.5 package name I had 
installed and found a copy at the University of Kent.


There must be a better way to find older ports/packages. What should I have 
done?


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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-29 Thread Tim Dunphy
definitely on it!! it takes a while but I'm sure it'll be worth it...

thanks

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Warren Block  wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Yes xorg is installed:
>>
>> [bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ pkg_info -Ix xorg-7
>> xorg-7.5            X.Org complete distribution metaport
>>
>> But startkde does not appear to be in /usr/local/kde4/bin
>>
> ...
>>
>> I have so far only installed kde4base.. I am attempting to install
>> the full KDE 4...
>
> startkde is in kdebase4-workspace, but you can't install any of the KDE
> sub-ports by themselves and expect it to run.  Install x11/kde4 for the
> whole thing.
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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-29 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote:


Hey guys,

Yes xorg is installed:

[bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ pkg_info -Ix xorg-7
xorg-7.5X.Org complete distribution metaport

But startkde does not appear to be in /usr/local/kde4/bin


...

I have so far only installed kde4base.. I am attempting to install
the full KDE 4...


startkde is in kdebase4-workspace, but you can't install any of the KDE 
sub-ports by themselves and expect it to run.  Install x11/kde4 for the 
whole thing.

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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-29 Thread Tim Dunphy
Hey guys,

 Yes xorg is installed:

 [bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ pkg_info -Ix xorg-7
xorg-7.5X.Org complete distribution metaport

But startkde does not appear to be in /usr/local/kde4/bin

[bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ ls
checkXMLkjs
dolphin kjscmd
kappfinder  konqueror
kbookmarkmerger konsole
kbuildsycoca4   konsoleprofile
kconfig_compilerkross
kcookiejar4 kshell4
kde4-config kunittestmodrunner
kded4   kwrapper4
kdeinit4kwrite
kdeinit4_shutdown   makekdewidgets
kdeinit4_wrappermeinproc4
kdepasswd   nepomuk-rcgen
kdialog nspluginscan
keditbookmarks  nspluginviewer
kfind   preparetips
kfmclient   servicemenudeinstallation
kinfocenter servicemenuinstallation

 I have so far only installed kde4base.. I am attempting to install
the full KDE 4...

thanks for your help

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Warren Block  wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote:
>
>> I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1
>>
>> I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start
>> it:
>>
>> echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc
>>
>> I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.
>>
>> may I have a suggestion to proceed?
>
> Is xorg installed?
>
> % pkg_info -Ix xorg-7
>
> If it's installed, rehash.
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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-28 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote:


I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1

I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start it:

echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc

I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.

may I have a suggestion to proceed?


Is xorg installed?

% pkg_info -Ix xorg-7

If it's installed, rehash.
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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-28 Thread Carl Johnson
Tim Dunphy  writes:

> sorry forgot to mention I am running it on a dell optiplex gx620 ..
> thanks in advance
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Tim Dunphy  wrote:
>> hey guys,
>> I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1
>> I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start 
>> it:
>> echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc
>> I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.
>> may I have a suggestion to proceed?

Do you have /usr/local/kde4/bin in your path?

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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-28 Thread Liontaur
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Tim Dunphy  wrote:

> hey guys,
>
>  I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1
>
>  I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start
> it:
>
>  echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc
>
>  I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.
>
>  may I have a suggestion to proceed?
>
>  thanks!


For KDE4 it's
echo "exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde" > ~/.xinitrc

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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-28 Thread justin v
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:24:19 -0700, Tim Dunphy   
wrote:



sorry forgot to mention I am running it on a dell optiplex gx620 ..
thanks in advance

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Tim Dunphy   
wrote:

hey guys,

 I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1

 I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to  
start it:


 echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc

 I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.

 may I have a suggestion to proceed?

 thanks!

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Re: start kde in 8.1

2010-10-28 Thread Tim Dunphy
sorry forgot to mention I am running it on a dell optiplex gx620 ..
thanks in advance

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Tim Dunphy  wrote:
> hey guys,
>
>  I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1
>
>  I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start 
> it:
>
>  echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc
>
>  I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.
>
>  may I have a suggestion to proceed?
>
>  thanks!
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start kde in 8.1

2010-10-28 Thread Tim Dunphy
hey guys,

 I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1

 I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start it:

 echo "startkde" > ~/.xinitrc

 I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it.

 may I have a suggestion to proceed?

 thanks!

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KDE forgets about display resolution in 8.1-release

2010-10-24 Thread Friedemann Becker
Hello,

every time I boot, there's a display resolution of 1600x1200. I can change
it via Start/KDE => Settings => System Settings => Display => Size &
Orientation, after login out and in again, it's still the same, but after
rebooting it's lost.
I don't want to put a fixed resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so is there a
way to make KDE remember my settings? where do I have to start searching?

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Re: how now [green] KDE?

2010-10-10 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, October 10, 2010 a las 06:09:32PM +0100, Bruce Cran escribió:

> On Sunday 10 October 2010 15:34:39 Polytropon wrote:
> 
> > The "startkde" command should be fully sufficient, as all other things
> > are to be configured inside KDE.
> 
> That may be "/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde", since /usr/local/kde4/bin 
> probably 
> won't be in $PATH.

For KDE3 (what I use) it is just /usr/local/bin/startkde

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Re: how now [green] KDE?

2010-10-10 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sunday 10 October 2010 15:34:39 Polytropon wrote:

> The "startkde" command should be fully sufficient, as all other things
> are to be configured inside KDE.

That may be "/usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde", since /usr/local/kde4/bin probably 
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Re: how now [green] KDE?

2010-10-10 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:33:50 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill  
wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
> > Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]?
> 
> I have the file .xinitrc in ~, but I think that gets created by the xorg 
> install process.

No. Install processes usually do not do anything inside a user's
home directory.

Depending on using xdm (will work with KDE) or kdm (KDE's own
graphical login manager), or simply "startx" (without any display
manager), you will have to create ~/.xinitrc and (or) ~/.xsession.
Those are shell scripts executed at X startup.

As I am not a KDE user, I can only guess about what command
actually starts KDE; I think it is "startkde". So your ~/.xsession
file could look like this:

exec startkde

A shebang line may be included, but is not required. If you're
using the C shell (FreeBSD's standard dialog shell) and want to
obtain its settings (you may have customized them), OR when you're
using X by "startx" without a display manager, you may consider
using the two-stage approach, which is:

~/.xsession

#!/bin/csh
source ~/.cshrc
exec ~/.xinitrc

If a display manager is present, it will inherit the C shell's settings
and then "switch over to" xinitrc mechanism.

~/.xinitrc

#!/bin/sh
# Your customized commands here, e. g.
[ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
xrandr --fb 1400x1050
xrandr --size 1400x1050
xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a
xterm -fg black -bg beige -title Terminal &
xset b 100 1000 15 &
xset r rate 250 30 &
xset s off &
xset -dpms &
# And finally your window manager or desktop environment:
exec startkde
# I have "exec wmaker" here :-)

With this setup, you can use
a) xdm
    b) kdm
c) any other dm
d) no dm (startx only, even per auto-login)



> Don't know what you would need for KDE, but I would hope 
> the package/port would create a default version of whatever you need.

The "startkde" command should be fully sufficient, as all other things
are to be configured inside KDE.



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Re: how now [green] KDE?

2010-10-10 Thread Chris Hill

On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Gary Kline wrote:

It has been nearly ten years since I last dealt with getting-X-going. 
Right now I have ballpark 530 ports installed. Can anybody give me the 
command that I can type from /usr/ports?


Last time I installed X, I used the x11/xorg metaport and pkg_add:

  pkg_add -r xorg

...much faster than building ports. I don't know how much about KDE, but 
I'd suggest that you get X working first and then tackle KDE, rather than 
try to do everything in one big step.



Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]?


I have the file .xinitrc in ~, but I think that gets created by the xorg 
install process. Don't know what you would need for KDE, but I would hope 
the package/port would create a default version of whatever you need.


Hope it goes well!

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Re: how now [green] KDE?

2010-10-10 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Gary Kline  writes:

> Guys,
>
> A friend spend a few hours taking out my crummy IOGear KVM switch
> that failed to work properly.  He dropped in a Belkin; so now I
> *can* button over to my Dell dou server and get X11 working.  Plus
> lots of other things.
>
> I want some GUI so I can get my UPS set up properly.  Right now, the
> server is text-only.  What ports to I need to install to get the
> X-Window System up?  I'll probably use KDE and some other GUI stuff.
> I will eventually use the server as a print server for anything OOo
> or PDF.  Whatever.

Use pkg_add(1). That is easy, fast for installing packages.

> It has been nearly ten years since I last dealt with
> getting-X-going.  Right now I have ballpark 530 ports installed.
> Can anybody give me the command that I can type from /usr/ports?
> Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]?
>
> tia, y'all,
>
> gary

Sincerely,

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how now [green] KDE?

2010-10-09 Thread Gary Kline
Guys,

A friend spend a few hours taking out my crummy IOGear KVM switch
that failed to work properly.  He dropped in a Belkin; so now I
*can* button over to my Dell dou server and get X11 working.  Plus
lots of other things.

I want some GUI so I can get my UPS set up properly.  Right now, the
server is text-only.  What ports to I need to install to get the
X-Window System up?  I'll probably use KDE and some other GUI stuff.
I will eventually use the server as a print server for anything OOo
or PDF.  Whatever.

It has been nearly ten years since I last dealt with
getting-X-going.  Right now I have ballpark 530 ports installed.
Can anybody give me the command that I can type from /usr/ports?
Also, what do I add to ~kline/[*]?

tia, y'all,

gary

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Re: KDE

2010-10-08 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
On 10/9/10, Adam Vande More  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Polytropon  wrote:
>
>> I hope it doesn't sound impolite when I mention this, but why not
>> give PC-BSD to novice users? Especially if an "out of the box"
>> experience is needed, PC-BSD is fine, as it brings all possible
>> stuff preinstalled and preconfigured. Still it's a real FreBSD
>> under the hood, so no big "loss".
>>
>
> I don't have any problem with PC-BSD and maybe it's a good solution here.
> It's just different enough in various ways from FreeBSD that I can't support
> it easily.  At least that's been my impression from the few times I've tried
> it.  Also it's had quirky bugs which made it more difficult to use, for
> example the PC-BSD installer didn't display right on my widescreen monitor
> even though my monitor was quite standard.  I had to find and hook up a
> standard 4:3 which then worked(you can also pan in X if you remember the
> keystrokes).  Maybe that's fixed now, but my experience with FreeBSD simply
> makes it easier.
>
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>
ok, u all wait till I install one, in da process of downloading.
Thank you all so much, wait till I finish.
-Jahan 10
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Re: KDE

2010-10-08 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
On 10/6/10, Adam Vande More  wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Aftab Jahan Subedar
> wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Actually I was trying to promote KDE/FreeBSD to my ISP (novice) users
>> instead of Windows XP or so, for a virus free journey.
>>
>> Is there anyone has actually successfully installed directly from
>> stable 8.1 /usr/ports/x11/kde4 ?
>>
>
> Sure, I do it regularly, yesterday in fact I built a fresh 8.1 STABLE, and
> compiled kde4.  Worked like a champ no errors.  However, if you're working
> with novice users, perhaps RELEASE and it's associated packages would be
> more suitable than STABLE + ports.
>
> --
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>
ok I will try that again, it fails in the GCC complie.
-Jahan 10
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Re: KDE

2010-10-08 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Polytropon  wrote:

> I hope it doesn't sound impolite when I mention this, but why not
> give PC-BSD to novice users? Especially if an "out of the box"
> experience is needed, PC-BSD is fine, as it brings all possible
> stuff preinstalled and preconfigured. Still it's a real FreBSD
> under the hood, so no big "loss".
>

I don't have any problem with PC-BSD and maybe it's a good solution here.
It's just different enough in various ways from FreeBSD that I can't support
it easily.  At least that's been my impression from the few times I've tried
it.  Also it's had quirky bugs which made it more difficult to use, for
example the PC-BSD installer didn't display right on my widescreen monitor
even though my monitor was quite standard.  I had to find and hook up a
standard 4:3 which then worked(you can also pan in X if you remember the
keystrokes).  Maybe that's fixed now, but my experience with FreeBSD simply
makes it easier.

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Re: KDE

2010-10-08 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:30:51 +0600, Aftab Jahan Subedar  
wrote:
> Dear Polytropon,
> 
> U were too polite to introduced this pcbsd. it looks very lucrative. I
> am gonna start download today and experiment.

I had good experiences in the past with providing PC-BSD to users
with (1st) beginner-level knowledge and (2nd) sufficiently modern
hardware. As a German, I found that KDE's localisation and inter-
nationalisation, the language support for the german language,
was not as good as that of Gnome. Minor problems occured when
needing to install codecs (to make the KDE media player usable),
but that's not because of a technical, but an idiotic reason. :-)

The overall "out of the box experience" is still quite good, and
the amount of time needed to get things working is significantly
small, as long as you don't have "extraordinary" hardware you need
to support.



> Have u used this ?

Yes, but it's not *my* cup of tea... :-)



> Is
> Yahoo Messenger or Skype supported?

KDE contains a "complete" messenger system that can connect to
Yahoo services, as far as I remember. Skype should work, too, but
*may* be limited in regards of videoconferencing.





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Re: KDE

2010-10-08 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
Dear Polytropon,

U were too polite to introduced this pcbsd. it looks very lucrative. I
am gonna start download today and experiment. Have u used this ? Is
Yahoo Messenger or Skype supported?

- Jahan since FreeBSD 2.2

On 10/6/10, Polytropon  wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 01:50:47 -0500, Adam Vande More 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Aftab Jahan Subedar
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear colleagues,
>> >
>> > Actually I was trying to promote KDE/FreeBSD to my ISP (novice) users
>> > instead of Windows XP or so, for a virus free journey.
>> >
>> > Is there anyone has actually successfully installed directly from
>> > stable 8.1 /usr/ports/x11/kde4 ?
>> >
>>
>> Sure, I do it regularly, yesterday in fact I built a fresh 8.1 STABLE, and
>> compiled kde4.  Worked like a champ no errors.  However, if you're working
>> with novice users, perhaps RELEASE and it's associated packages would be
>> more suitable than STABLE + ports.
>
> I hope it doesn't sound impolite when I mention this, but why not
> give PC-BSD to novice users? Especially if an "out of the box"
> experience is needed, PC-BSD is fine, as it brings all possible
> stuff preinstalled and preconfigured. Still it's a real FreBSD
> under the hood, so no big "loss".
>
>
>
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Re: KDE

2010-10-06 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 01:50:47 -0500, Adam Vande More  
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Aftab Jahan Subedar 
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > Actually I was trying to promote KDE/FreeBSD to my ISP (novice) users
> > instead of Windows XP or so, for a virus free journey.
> >
> > Is there anyone has actually successfully installed directly from
> > stable 8.1 /usr/ports/x11/kde4 ?
> >
> 
> Sure, I do it regularly, yesterday in fact I built a fresh 8.1 STABLE, and
> compiled kde4.  Worked like a champ no errors.  However, if you're working
> with novice users, perhaps RELEASE and it's associated packages would be
> more suitable than STABLE + ports.

I hope it doesn't sound impolite when I mention this, but why not
give PC-BSD to novice users? Especially if an "out of the box"
experience is needed, PC-BSD is fine, as it brings all possible
stuff preinstalled and preconfigured. Still it's a real FreBSD
under the hood, so no big "loss".



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Re: KDE

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> Actually I was trying to promote KDE/FreeBSD to my ISP (novice) users
> instead of Windows XP or so, for a virus free journey.
>
> Is there anyone has actually successfully installed directly from
> stable 8.1 /usr/ports/x11/kde4 ?
>

Sure, I do it regularly, yesterday in fact I built a fresh 8.1 STABLE, and
compiled kde4.  Worked like a champ no errors.  However, if you're working
with novice users, perhaps RELEASE and it's associated packages would be
more suitable than STABLE + ports.

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KDE

2010-10-05 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
Dear colleagues,

Actually I was trying to promote KDE/FreeBSD to my ISP (novice) users
instead of Windows XP or so, for a virus free journey.

But failed to install straight way from /usr/ports/x11/kde4

Its now gcc problem. waiting for gcc problem to be cleared.

By hand can be solved (possibly) but this needs to be done
automagically, due to ppl who does not understand much should be able
to install right away.

I dunno, if the developer team knows about it or not.

Is there anyone has actually successfully installed directly from
stable 8.1 /usr/ports/x11/kde4 ?

-Jahan 10
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Re: simplest way to get gnome/ kde up and running

2010-10-04 Thread Foo JH



Have you actually installed KDE and/or Gnome?  I don't see that step
included in what you say you have done.
If you have not you will of course need to do that before you can
configure either of them.
For Gnome you will probably want the x11/gnome2 port/package while for
KDE you will probably want either x11/kde3 or x11/kde4 (depending on if
you want KDE 3.x or KDE 4.x)
I install Gnome via the DVD package. I believe it's gnome-desktop-... 
(sorry, need to be back home to get the actual package name). I tried to 
find gnome2 in the dvd package list (not the ports), but it's not listed 
there. Would it come under another name?









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Re: simplest way to get gnome/ kde up and running

2010-10-03 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 08:22:06PM +0800, Foo JH wrote:
>   Hi guys,
> 
> I've been trying without luck to get KDE/ Gnome configured. I've been 
> reading and re-reading (and trying and re-trying) to get the window 
> manager running, but it's been driving me nuts.
> 
> - How far I've gotten:
> 1. Installing Xorg from the DVD package is easy.  I've added the 
> hald_enable and dbus_enable to /etc/rc.conf
> 2. Xorg -configure looks like it's working too: i get the skeleton 
> outlined window manager that I believe is fwm

The default window manager included with X.org is actually twm (not
that it actually matters for this question.)

> 3. Xorg -configure xorg.conf.new -retro works too
> 
> - Where I'm stuck:
> 1. So far ~/.xinitrc is missing. But I followed the Handbank anyway and 
> did this:
> echo "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
> 
> 2. Running startx crashes now because it complains 
> /usr/local/bin/gnome-session is missing  - that's true.
> 
> Am I missing something? Or is there an easier way that Linux distros 
> have been very successful at? I'm a Freebie and I'd prefer to go with 
> FreeBSD as much as possible.

Have you actually installed KDE and/or Gnome?  I don't see that step
included in what you say you have done.
If you have not you will of course need to do that before you can
configure either of them.
For Gnome you will probably want the x11/gnome2 port/package while for
KDE you will probably want either x11/kde3 or x11/kde4 (depending on if
you want KDE 3.x or KDE 4.x)





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simplest way to get gnome/ kde up and running

2010-10-03 Thread Foo JH

 Hi guys,

I've been trying without luck to get KDE/ Gnome configured. I've been 
reading and re-reading (and trying and re-trying) to get the window 
manager running, but it's been driving me nuts.


- How far I've gotten:
1. Installing Xorg from the DVD package is easy.  I've added the 
hald_enable and dbus_enable to /etc/rc.conf
2. Xorg -configure looks like it's working too: i get the skeleton 
outlined window manager that I believe is fwm

3. Xorg -configure xorg.conf.new -retro works too

- Where I'm stuck:
1. So far ~/.xinitrc is missing. But I followed the Handbank anyway and 
did this:

echo "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc

2. Running startx crashes now because it complains 
/usr/local/bin/gnome-session is missing  - that's true.


Am I missing something? Or is there an easier way that Linux distros 
have been very successful at? I'm a Freebie and I'd prefer to go with 
FreeBSD as much as possible.

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Latest KDE 4.5.1

2010-09-17 Thread Steven Friedrich
Can anyone install the Fortune plasma widget?

It doen't show up in my widget box, and I even tried to install the downloaded 
plasmoid I found in /tmp/kde-admin. No joy.

I'm trying to discover if this anomaly is everywhere, or I just need to 
rebuild something..

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problems starting vncserver with KDE

2010-08-15 Thread Dan Langille
I'm trying to start VNCServer with KDE 3 on FreeBSD 8.2-stable.  All 
ports were built today from a fresh portsnap.


tightvnc-1.3.10_3


I'm lost now...  Suggestions?


$ cat ~/.vnc/xstartup
#!/bin/sh

PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/dan/bin

xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
xsetroot -solid grey
xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
startkde &
#twm &

Starting with twm works fine:

$ less ~/.vnc/kraken.example.org:1.log
15/08/10 21:29:12 Xvnc version TightVNC-1.3.10
15/08/10 21:29:12 Copyright (C) 2000-2009 TightVNC Group
15/08/10 21:29:12 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge
15/08/10 21:29:12 All Rights Reserved.
15/08/10 21:29:12 See http://www.tightvnc.com/ for information on TightVNC
15/08/10 21:29:12 Desktop name 'X' (kraken.example.org:1)
15/08/10 21:29:12 Protocol versions supported: 3.3, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7t, 3.8t
15/08/10 21:29:12 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901
15/08/10 21:29:12 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801
15/08/10 21:29:12   URL http://kraken.example.org:5801



$ vncserver -kill :1 && vncserver -geometry 1024x768
Killing Xvnc process ID 86939

New 'X' desktop is kraken.example.org:1

Starting applications specified in /home/dan/.vnc/xstartup
Log file is /home/dan/.vnc/kraken.example.org:1.log

$ less ~/.vnc/kraken.example.org:1.log
15/08/10 21:24:29 Xvnc version TightVNC-1.3.10
15/08/10 21:24:29 Copyright (C) 2000-2009 TightVNC Group
15/08/10 21:24:29 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge
15/08/10 21:24:29 All Rights Reserved.
15/08/10 21:24:29 See http://www.tightvnc.com/ for information on TightVNC
15/08/10 21:24:29 Desktop name 'X' (kraken.example.org:1)
15/08/10 21:24:29 Protocol versions supported: 3.3, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7t, 3.8t
15/08/10 21:24:29 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901
15/08/10 21:24:29 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801
15/08/10 21:24:29   URL http://kraken.example.org:5801
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-89672' to 'kded'
kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
Reusing existing ksycoca
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/binary-certificate'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-fortran'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'KNotify'
startkde: Starting up...
startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
call failed
xprop: not found
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-89699' to 'kded'
kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.

$ ls -l *.core
-rw---  1 dan  dan  7872512 Aug 15 21:24 kdeinit.core
-rw---  1 dan  dan  7528448 Aug 15 21:24 kpersonalizer.core
-rw---  1 dan  dan  7819264 Aug 15 21:24 ksplash.core
-rw---  1 dan  dan  7458816 Aug 15 21:24 kwin.core

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Fwd: Help with KDE Policykit system-settings

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Moellering

Apologies for the cross-post.  All help is appreciated.

I just installed Freebsd 8.1 amd64 with the kde 4.45 package. I am

trying to get the PolicyKit to work with hal using the kde policyKit 'manager'.
I have tried both running as root or using su.
In both cases, when I pull up the (KDE) PolicyKit screen, it does not allow me 
to change
anything.  The modify settings is greyed out in the default area
section, even if I change something and if I try and grant a user privilages, the 
"Grant" button
stays disabled after I choose a user.
Any idea how I can get this to work? Is there some system setting I have 
forgotten? Thanks in advance.

Mark Moellering


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Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-08-02 Thread Michel Talon
I wrote:

> Of course making X to run was an exercise in pain, i had to enable HAL
> and DBUS otherwise keyboard and mouse were not recognized, the data in
> the xorg.conf were not obeyed, etc. but this was to be expected. The
> only problem i have now is that i have seen no way to configure the
> kdm greeter so that the french keyboard is recognized as french, which
> is inconvenient to type the passwd.


For reference the solution i have found is to modify some hald config
file this way:

cat /usr/local/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi



  



   evdev



  
evdev
  



  
  kbd
  
evdev
  
  pc105
  fr


  


The modification is to add the two lines with pc105 and fr at the end
which provide a fall back for non Linux systems.

Then X starts with a french keyboard and kdm sees it. By the way to
start kdm automatically, the solution is in the FreeBSD KDE4 wiki, it is
simply to add the following to /etc/rc.conf

local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"
kdm4_enable="YES"

Hope this may help some poor fellow who has not followed the recent
modifications to xorg configuration closely, modifications which can be
summarized as: "Why do it simple when one can do it complex?".




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Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-07-31 Thread Michel Talon
Mike Clarke wrote:

> Are you by any chance using the flashblock extension with firefox? This 
> extension has a problem with streetview and you need to add 
> maps.google.com to the flashblock whitelist.

I don't use any firefox extension, and all programs are freshly
installed from  FreeBSD-8.1-i386 dvd. I haven't recompiled the kernel,
all is standard. I have followed the debugging hits given by google map,
checked about:config, etc. without any result, maps don't load and 
javascript errors appear. Severall months ago, google maps worked for me
on firefox, then it broke, and still doesn't work with this recent
version. It may be related to locale effects, i don't know, but i don't
have problems with konqueror and seamonkey.


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Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-07-31 Thread Mike Clarke
On Sunday 01 August 2010, Michel Talon wrote:

> Firefox3 also
> chokes on Google maps while seamonkey and konqueror work ok. There
> are obviously javascript problems. Finally i have installed flash10
> with the pluginwrapper, and it works wonderfully fine in seamonkey
> and firefox3, including sound, fullscreen images, etc. But konqueror
> doesn't work with Flash, for an unknown reason. Hence seamonkey is
> the only browser which allows me to look at google maps with street
> view.

Are you by any chance using the flashblock extension with firefox? This 
extension has a problem with streetview and you need to add 
maps.google.com to the flashblock whitelist.

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Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-07-31 Thread Michel Talon

Unga complained:

> behaviour of KDE is surprisingly poor

I have installed a fresh  FreeBSD-8.1 and a fresh kde4 from the
8.1 cdrom, and i see none of your problems. For me KDE4 works perfectly
OK, i am even surprised. 

Of course making X to run was an exercise in pain, i had to enable HAL
and DBUS otherwise keyboard and mouse were not recognized, the data in
the xorg.conf were not obeyed, etc. but this was to be expected. The
only problem i have now is that i have seen no way to configure the
kdm greeter so that the french keyboard is recognized as french, which
is inconvenient to type the passwd. But as soon as kde itself starts,
everything is OK.

An other problem i have seen, diablo-jdk doesn't work for me, i have
been obliged to recompile jdk-1.6 starting from an openjdk-1.6
bootstrap. Strangely firefox3 doesn't see the plugin, but seamonkey
sees it fine and konqueror also works fine with java. Firefox3 also
chokes on Google maps while seamonkey and konqueror work ok. There are
obviously javascript problems. Finally i have installed flash10 with
the pluginwrapper, and it works wonderfully fine in seamonkey and
firefox3, including sound, fullscreen images, etc. But konqueror
doesn't work with Flash, for an unknown reason. Hence seamonkey is the
only browser which allows me to look at google maps with street view.

To summarize, i am extremely happy with the performance of the machine
under FreeBSD-8.1, and things which were big problems, like Flash,
are now well controlled. Firefox3 is very crappy, only usable for most
basic browsing. Seamonkey works perfectly fine for everything i have
tried. Konqueror has regressions from KDE 3, but in general KDE4 is
nicer than KDE3. Of course icons on the dektop work to launch programs.

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Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-07-31 Thread Unga
--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Warren Block  wrote:

> From: Warren Block 
> Subject: Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?
> To: "Unga" 
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 11:53 PM
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Unga wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I have installed KDE 4.4.5 from ports (ie. with full
> compilation) on FreeBSD 8.1 on i386.
> > 
> > Once HAL and DBUS is enabled in /etc/rc.conf,
> behaviour of KDE is surprisingly poor:
> 
> > 2. Once type firefox on the "Run Command" it doesn't
> appear until I shake the mouse! Once press enter, it doesn't
> run firefox till I shake the mouse again. The firefox comes
> in stages and every stage I have to shake the mouse to
> continue.
> 
> Remove Option "AllowEmptyInput" from your xorg.conf.
> 

Wow, that made the trick. It works well now. Thank you thousand times :)

Best regards
Unga



  
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Re: Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-07-31 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Unga wrote:


Hi all

I have installed KDE 4.4.5 from ports (ie. with full compilation) on FreeBSD 
8.1 on i386.

Once HAL and DBUS is enabled in /etc/rc.conf, behaviour of KDE is surprisingly 
poor:


2. Once type firefox on the "Run Command" it doesn't appear until I 
shake the mouse! Once press enter, it doesn't run firefox till I shake 
the mouse again. The firefox comes in stages and every stage I have to 
shake the mouse to continue.


Remove Option "AllowEmptyInput" from your xorg.conf.
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Is KDE 4.4.5 on FreeBSD 8.1 this bad?

2010-07-31 Thread Unga
Hi all

I have installed KDE 4.4.5 from ports (ie. with full compilation) on FreeBSD 
8.1 on i386.

Once HAL and DBUS is enabled in /etc/rc.conf, behaviour of KDE is surprisingly 
poor:

1. None of the desktop icons works to launch programs. Eg. Click or double 
click on Firefox icon does not launch Firefox. I have to right click on the 
desktop and click on "Run Command" and type firefox to run.

2. Once type firefox on the "Run Command" it doesn't appear until I shake the 
mouse! Once press enter, it doesn't run firefox till I shake the mouse again. 
The firefox comes in stages and every stage I have to shake the mouse to 
continue.

Do others experience the same with KDE 4.4.5? Do I have to do some 
configurations to overcome this issue?

Best regards
Unga


  
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Re: autologin KDE, 8-1-RELEASE-amd64 not working

2010-07-27 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Thiago Rodrigues Santos
 wrote:
> Em Terça-feira 27 Julho 2010, às 14:58:33, Antonio Olivares escreveu:
>> Dear folks,
>>
>> I am not sure why, but autologin is not working, I get authentication
>> errors :(
>>
>> I setup KDE as the desktop using
>>
>> echo 'exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4' > ~/.xinitrc
>>
>> echo 'local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"' >>
>> /etc/rc.conf echo 'kdm4_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
>>
>> and logging in as root and using the System Settings, I chose
>> autologin as myself(regular user, member of wheel/operator groups(if
>> it is important))     but I get authentication error :(
>>
>> I try to login as root, but root is not allowed exept if I start in
>> console mode, i,e, comment out the lines in /etc/rc.conf and I make
>> changes, but cannot get autologin to work.
>>
>> I know that autologin is discouraged, but this is a home computer and
>> no other person uses it execpt me, how should I fix it?
>>
>> Thank you for advice/suggestions/comments.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio
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> Hello. If you don't have the /etc/pam.d/kde-np file, you need to create it
> with the following content:
>
> auth       required     pam_permit.so
> account    required     pam_nologin.so
> account    required     pam_unix.so
> session    required     pam_permit.so
>
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Thank you very much Thiago.  Creating the file and restarting worked :)

Now, I will try to compile some programs like mplayer.

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: autologin KDE, 8-1-RELEASE-amd64 not working

2010-07-27 Thread Thiago Rodrigues Santos
Em Terça-feira 27 Julho 2010, às 14:58:33, Antonio Olivares escreveu:
> Dear folks,
> 
> I am not sure why, but autologin is not working, I get authentication
> errors :(
> 
> I setup KDE as the desktop using
> 
> echo 'exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4' > ~/.xinitrc
> 
> echo 'local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"' >>
> /etc/rc.conf echo 'kdm4_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
> 
> and logging in as root and using the System Settings, I chose
> autologin as myself(regular user, member of wheel/operator groups(if
> it is important)) but I get authentication error :(
> 
> I try to login as root, but root is not allowed exept if I start in
> console mode, i,e, comment out the lines in /etc/rc.conf and I make
> changes, but cannot get autologin to work.
> 
> I know that autologin is discouraged, but this is a home computer and
> no other person uses it execpt me, how should I fix it?
> 
> Thank you for advice/suggestions/comments.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio
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Hello. If you don't have the /etc/pam.d/kde-np file, you need to create it 
with the following content:

auth   required pam_permit.so
accountrequired pam_nologin.so
accountrequired pam_unix.so
sessionrequired pam_permit.so

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autologin KDE, 8-1-RELEASE-amd64 not working

2010-07-27 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear folks,

I am not sure why, but autologin is not working, I get authentication errors :(

I setup KDE as the desktop using

echo 'exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4' > ~/.xinitrc

echo 'local_startup="${local_startup} /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'kdm4_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf

and logging in as root and using the System Settings, I chose
autologin as myself(regular user, member of wheel/operator groups(if
it is important)) but I get authentication error :(

I try to login as root, but root is not allowed exept if I start in
console mode, i,e, comment out the lines in /etc/rc.conf and I make
changes, but cannot get autologin to work.

I know that autologin is discouraged, but this is a home computer and
no other person uses it execpt me, how should I fix it?

Thank you for advice/suggestions/comments.

Regards,

Antonio
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kde 4.3.1 dont loading

2010-07-25 Thread Dima Bui

hi, after installing nvidia driver at FreeBSD 8.0, Kde 4.3.1 don't
loading after login screen, and when input username and password - login
screen reload. Before installing nvidia driver, kde 4.3.1 load ok. Who
know how decide this problem? Help please.
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kde 4.3.1 dont loading

2010-07-25 Thread Андрей К озаренко
hi, after installing nvidia driver at FreeBSD 8.0, Kde 4.3.1 don't 
loading after login screen, and when input username and password - login 
screen reload. Before installing nvidia driver, kde 4.3.1 load ok. Who 
know how decide this problem? Help please.

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Re: [kde-freebsd] libiodbc build failure @ "configure" cmd

2010-07-25 Thread claudiu vasadi
for others who may have the same issue ->

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10316

you need to replace your "base".

PS: after you replace your "base" distribution and reboot, you will notice
the system will not load and you will have to issue "boot GENERIC" at the
"boot>" prompt. The workaround for this is to issue "nextboot -k GENERIC"
after you upgraded the "base" distribution and BEFORE you reboot. This was
very handy to me, since the system that was damaged is ~700km away from me.


Hope this helps someone

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Re: [kde-freebsd] startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation.

2010-07-20 Thread Rusty Nejdl


On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:51:50 +0200, claudiu vasadi  wrote:  
hello
fellas, 

can no one give me any ideas ?  

I reinstalled libthr.so.3 in
the meantime but with no effect. 

I got it last night and simply
recompiling kdelibs was sufficient: 

sudo portupgrade -f kdelibs


Rusty Nejdl
http://networking.ringofsaturn.com
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