Re: Mount SMB share on bootup
Lines prefixed with are what Chirhart, Brian wrote. Ed - that worked great... Thanks!! I am not sure what I did, but it worked. What language is that script in? It isn't perl - is it C? No, it's a simple bourne script. If you put bourne shell scripting into Google, you will get tutorials and information. You could write an rc.d script in perl if you wanted to. The scripts in /usr/ local/etc/rc.d need to match the following rules in order to be executed at system startup/shutdown: (taken from the rc man page) o Scripts are only executed if their basename(1) matches the shell globbing pattern *.sh, and they are executable. Any other files or directories present within the directory are silently ignored. o When a script is executed at boot time, it is passed the string ``start'' as its first and only argument. At shutdown time, it is passed the string ``stop'' as its first and only argument. All rc.d scripts are expected to handle these arguments appropriately. If no action needs to be taken at a given time (either boot time or shut- down time) the script should exit successfully and without producing an error message. o The scripts within each directory are executed in lexicographical order. If a specific order is required, numbers may be used as a prefix to the existing filenames, so for example 100.foo would be executed before 200.bar; without the numeric prefixes the opposite would be true. -Original Message- From: Edward Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:43 PM To: Chirhart, Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mount SMB share on bootup Lines prefixed with are what Chirhart, Brian wrote. point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device #Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? You are on the right track; it took me a while to figure this one out too. You've got your /etc/fstab file set up correctly. This is how the line for me looks, it's just like yours. //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/SHARE /mnt/chaos smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 To specify your username and password for the mount, you should create /etc/nsmb.conf the syntax for this file is shown in /usr/share/examples/smbfs/dot.nsmbrc Here is an example from my machine: #nsmb.conf [CHAOS] addr=10.0.3.3 [CHAOS:EDWARD] password=X Finally, to mount on bootup, create a file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with the following contents (or something similar; you probably didn't name your share CHAOS): [EMAIL PROTECTED] more /usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.chaos.sh #! /bin/sh case $1 in start) echo Mounting CHAOS... mount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; stop) echo Unmounting CHAOS... umount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; esac Also, I make sure my /etc/nsmb.conf file is owned by root and chmod'ed 600 because it contains a password in plaintext. Don't forget to make sure that your file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d is chmodded at least 700 so that it's executable by, at the very least, the owner (should be root). I hope this is clear
RE: Mount SMB share on bootup
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 15:21, Chirhart, Brian wrote: point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device #Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? Thank you for all your help! I saw that you got a couple responses to this, but they were just a bit off from the correct way to do it. Edward came very close, so I'm just going to expand upon what he said. First, If I recall correctly, the smbfs.sh that goes in /usr/local/etc/rc.d was somehow accidentally left out of the release. If you don't have it, you can get it here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/smbfs.sh.sample Click on the Download link for the newest version. It's probably better to use this version instead of a home-made one so that you don't run into problems down the road. (Don't forget to nuke the sample extension.) Your /etc/fstab is fine, but you should move /etc/nsmb.conf to /root/.nsmbrc. If you consult mount_smbfs(8), you'll see that this is where mount_smbfs expects it to be. Plus, keeping it here affords you a little bit better security. (Double-check that it's readable/writable by root ONLY!) Finally, you should obfuscate the password with smbutil crypt. This is NOT encryption, it will only protect the password from being discovered by casual observation. You should still treat it as plaintext, even in obfuscated form, as the encryption is almost as trivial to crack as rot13. Good luck! Charles Ulrich ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount SMB share on bootup
Lines prefixed with are what C. Ulrich wrote. On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 15:21, Chirhart, Brian wrote: point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device #Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? Thank you for all your help! I saw that you got a couple responses to this, but they were just a bit off from the correct way to do it. Edward came very close, so I'm just going to expand upon what he said. First, If I recall correctly, the smbfs.sh that goes in /usr/local/etc/rc.d was somehow accidentally left out of the release. If you don't have it, you can get it here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/smbfs.sh.sa mple Click on the Download link for the newest version. It's probably better to use this version instead of a home-made one so that you don't run into problems down the road. (Don't forget to nuke the sample extension.) It never even occured to me to parse fstab to get a list of mountpoints and then just do them all automatically. If you've got lots of Samba shares, it comes in really handy. Your /etc/fstab is fine, but you should move /etc/nsmb.conf to /root/.nsmbrc. If you consult mount_smbfs(8), you'll see that this is where mount_smbfs expects it to be. Plus, keeping it here affords you a little bit better security. (Double-check that it's readable/writable by root ONLY!) When I was setting up my share, I tried putting .nsmbrc in /root initially, but IIRC it didn't work. Now that I look at the correct rc.d script, it probably didn't work because $HOME wasn't set. Does that make sense? Finally, you should obfuscate the password with smbutil crypt. This is NOT encryption, it will only protect the password from being discovered by casual observation. You should still treat it as plaintext, even in obfuscated form, as the encryption is almost as trivial to crack as rot13. Also great info, thanks very much! Good luck! Charles Ulrich ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are people who cheat on their spouse but not at cards, and vice versa, and both and neither. Reputation is not necessarily portable from one situation to another, and it's not easily expressed. --Clay Shirkey. (http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html) It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this. --Bertrand Russell. The American empire is ideological, not territorial. We are the most ideological people in the world, and we are so united in our view that we don't understand there can be other views. --Lt. Gen. William Odom, ret. (Former Director of NSA). ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount SMB share on bootup
Lines prefixed with are what Chirhart, Brian wrote. Ed - that worked great... Thanks!! I am not sure what I did, but it worked. What language is that script in? It isn't perl - is it C? No, it's a simple bourne script. If you put bourne shell scripting into Google, you will get tutorials and information. You could write an rc.d script in perl if you wanted to. The scripts in /usr/ local/etc/rc.d need to match the following rules in order to be executed at system startup/shutdown: (taken from the rc man page) o Scripts are only executed if their basename(1) matches the shell globbing pattern *.sh, and they are executable. Any other files or directories present within the directory are silently ignored. o When a script is executed at boot time, it is passed the string ``start'' as its first and only argument. At shutdown time, it is passed the string ``stop'' as its first and only argument. All rc.d scripts are expected to handle these arguments appropriately. If no action needs to be taken at a given time (either boot time or shut- down time) the script should exit successfully and without producing an error message. o The scripts within each directory are executed in lexicographical order. If a specific order is required, numbers may be used as a prefix to the existing filenames, so for example 100.foo would be executed before 200.bar; without the numeric prefixes the opposite would be true. -Ed -Original Message- From: Edward Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:43 PM To: Chirhart, Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mount SMB share on bootup Lines prefixed with are what Chirhart, Brian wrote. point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device #Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? You are on the right track; it took me a while to figure this one out too. You've got your /etc/fstab file set up correctly. This is how the line for me looks, it's just like yours. //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/SHARE /mnt/chaos smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 To specify your username and password for the mount, you should create /etc/nsmb.conf the syntax for this file is shown in /usr/share/examples/smbfs/dot.nsmbrc Here is an example from my machine: #nsmb.conf [CHAOS] addr=10.0.3.3 [CHAOS:EDWARD] password=X Finally, to mount on bootup, create a file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with the following contents (or something similar; you probably didn't name your share CHAOS): [EMAIL PROTECTED] more /usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.chaos.sh #! /bin/sh case $1 in start) echo Mounting CHAOS... mount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; stop) echo Unmounting CHAOS... umount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; esac Also, I make sure my /etc/nsmb.conf file is owned by root and chmod'ed 600 because it contains a password in plaintext. Don't forget to make sure that your file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d is chmodded at least 700 so that it's executable by, at the very least, the owner (should be root). I hope this is clear
Re: Mount SMB share on bootup
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:37:58 -0600 Chirhart, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What language is that script in? It isn't perl - is it C? - #!/bin/sh Regards -- Pierrick Brossin pbrossin .at. swissgeeks .dot. com http://www.swissgeeks.com perl -e\ 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mount SMB share on bootup
Ed - that worked great... Thanks!! I am not sure what I did, but it worked. What language is that script in? It isn't perl - is it C? -Original Message- From: Edward Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:43 PM To: Chirhart, Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mount SMB share on bootup Lines prefixed with are what Chirhart, Brian wrote. point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device #Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? You are on the right track; it took me a while to figure this one out too. You've got your /etc/fstab file set up correctly. This is how the line for me looks, it's just like yours. //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/SHARE /mnt/chaos smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 To specify your username and password for the mount, you should create /etc/nsmb.conf the syntax for this file is shown in /usr/share/examples/smbfs/dot.nsmbrc Here is an example from my machine: #nsmb.conf [CHAOS] addr=10.0.3.3 [CHAOS:EDWARD] password=X Finally, to mount on bootup, create a file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with the following contents (or something similar; you probably didn't name your share CHAOS): [EMAIL PROTECTED] more /usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.chaos.sh #! /bin/sh case $1 in start) echo Mounting CHAOS... mount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; stop) echo Unmounting CHAOS... umount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; esac Also, I make sure my /etc/nsmb.conf file is owned by root and chmod'ed 600 because it contains a password in plaintext. Don't forget to make sure that your file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d is chmodded at least 700 so that it's executable by, at the very least, the owner (should be root). I hope this is clear enough to make some sense to you. Regards, Ed Thank you for all your help! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are people who cheat on their spouse but not at cards, and vice versa, and both and neither. Reputation is not necessarily portable from one situation to another, and it's not easily expressed. --Clay Shirkey. (http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html) It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this. --Bertrand Russell. The American empire is ideological, not territorial. We are the most ideological people in the world, and we are so united in our view that we don't understand there can be other views. --Lt. Gen. William Odom, ret. (Former Director of NSA). ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mount SMB share on bootup
I am only 1 month along in my FreeBSD knowledge, so please forgive any wrong verbage or simple questions. In that month, I have set up a pretty sweet server that is running SSH, apache 2.x and ProFTPD. So I have gotten along pretty well. My question is my FTP server is hosting files off of a WinXP box via an SMB mount point. But every time I reboot the box (which is often since I don't know what I am doing) I have to type my mount command again. Is there a way I can mount that automatically upon startup? Also, the mount point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount SMB share on bootup
point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mount SMB share on bootup
point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device#Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? Thank you for all your help! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount SMB share on bootup
Lines prefixed with are what Chirhart, Brian wrote. point is password protected (on the XP side) so I am prompted for a password. How can I automate that? Or should I create the share without a password? I am not too worried about internal security so the share could have no password and that would be fine. Create a script called whatever.sh, chmod +x 755 whatever.sh and put that script in a /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Put the following lines in that script #!/bin/sh smbmount username=user password=pass and the rest of the parametars that you are normaly using when mounting smb partition. Mind that if your startup script for samba is samba.sh your mounting script must start with a letter after the letter s otherwise you would mounting a samba share without smb daemon started. When I try the smbmount I get a command not Found I checked the man pages on mount and found mount_smbfs, but I can not find any options that would allow me to specify a username and password. I am not using Samba (at least I didn't load it... may be there by default???) - To map the drive I have a line in my /etc/fstab file that reads: # Device #Mountpoint FSType OPtion //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /ftprootsmbfs rw.nosuto 0 0 Once the server boots, I type mount /ftproot and then it asks me for the password for User. After the password is entered, /ftproot contains the contents of the share on my XP system. It was one of the things that I fell in love with about BSD - the ability to see XP shares with no special magic. So anyway - I think there are several different approaches to this. Can I modify my fstab file so that auto would work by somehow specifing a password? Or is there a password option that I am missing in the mount or mount_smbfs commands? OR... is there a reason I don't have the smbmount command? You are on the right track; it took me a while to figure this one out too. You've got your /etc/fstab file set up correctly. This is how the line for me looks, it's just like yours. //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/SHARE /mnt/chaos smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 To specify your username and password for the mount, you should create /etc/nsmb.conf the syntax for this file is shown in /usr/share/examples/smbfs/dot.nsmbrc Here is an example from my machine: #nsmb.conf [CHAOS] addr=10.0.3.3 [CHAOS:EDWARD] password=X Finally, to mount on bootup, create a file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with the following contents (or something similar; you probably didn't name your share CHAOS): [EMAIL PROTECTED] more /usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.chaos.sh #! /bin/sh case $1 in start) echo Mounting CHAOS... mount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; stop) echo Unmounting CHAOS... umount /mnt/CHAOS 2 ;; esac Also, I make sure my /etc/nsmb.conf file is owned by root and chmod'ed 600 because it contains a password in plaintext. Don't forget to make sure that your file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d is chmodded at least 700 so that it's executable by, at the very least, the owner (should be root). I hope this is clear enough to make some sense to you. Regards, Ed Thank you for all your help! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are people who cheat on their spouse but not at cards, and vice versa, and both and neither. Reputation is not necessarily portable from one situation to another, and it's not easily expressed. --Clay Shirkey. (http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html) It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this. --Bertrand Russell. The American empire is ideological, not territorial. We are the most ideological people in the world, and we are so united in our view that we don't understand there can be other views. --Lt. Gen. William Odom, ret. (Former Director of NSA). ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
