Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > Things I tried: > > With all three vbox module inserted into the kernel > > NAT, Bridge, with the PC-Net FAST Not able to ping anything (even the > gateway) I also tried ifconfig by hand > NAT, Bridge, and Host-only with the first intel card on the list. > Same response as above. > NAT and Bridge with 2nd Intel card used. DHCP worked under nat, but > was unable to ping the outside internet. > Bridge worked perfectly with DHCP and was able to talk to the outside > world. Bridge is preferred anyhow as I can set up a static with a > public IP for access from the outside world. > > My host is headless, so I am running virtualbox headless and it works > like a champ with the following command: > > # VBoxHeadless --vnc --vncport 5902 --startvm FreeBSD > > Note: I had a similar issue with a FreeBSD client running under > windows being picky as to which card I selected. This was a couple of > years ago. Also, I think I see the same issue with the system time > running wildly off from net time. On my old virtualbox system the > system clock was so unsteady that ntp would not even lock it down. > AFAIK, pinging from a VM set to use VirtualBox NAT has never worked on FreeBSD Host/Guest setup. TCP/UDP connections generally work though. This perhaps explains it more, http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/1247 Bridged networking mode hasn't failed me since shortly after it was patched to work with FreeBSD. Make sure you are not bridging with wireless NIC's as I don't think those work yet. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: > > On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Chris Maness wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: >>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Maness wrote: >>> I tried the second Intel adapter in the list and it worked under bridge mode. >>> >>> >>> This is really unsatisfying, can you generate an ifconfig -a and report it >>> back so that we can see what you did? >>> did you assign multiple interfaces to the machine? are they all bridged or? >>> >>> I want to make sure that others can learn from this, and that is only >>> possible when you shed a little light on the >>> things that you did and what caused problems. would you be able to help us >>> with that? >>> >>> -- >>> /"\ Best regards, | re...@freebsd.org >>> \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet >>> X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | >>> / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News >>> >>> >> >> Yes, I will give a more detailed blow by blow a little latter on. I >> am on baby duty right now ;o) >> >> Chris > > OK that is a fair excuse :) goodluck with that and please tell us what you > did and how you did resolve it. It's one of the strenghts > of email archives, if people hit the search string they might be able to see > how you resolved it, and thank you for it later :) > > Cheerio > R > > -- > /"\ Best regards, | re...@freebsd.org > \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet > X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | > / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News > > Things I tried: With all three vbox module inserted into the kernel NAT, Bridge, with the PC-Net FAST Not able to ping anything (even the gateway) I also tried ifconfig by hand NAT, Bridge, and Host-only with the first intel card on the list. Same response as above. NAT and Bridge with 2nd Intel card used. DHCP worked under nat, but was unable to ping the outside internet. Bridge worked perfectly with DHCP and was able to talk to the outside world. Bridge is preferred anyhow as I can set up a static with a public IP for access from the outside world. My host is headless, so I am running virtualbox headless and it works like a champ with the following command: # VBoxHeadless --vnc --vncport 5902 --startvm FreeBSD Note: I had a similar issue with a FreeBSD client running under windows being picky as to which card I selected. This was a couple of years ago. Also, I think I see the same issue with the system time running wildly off from net time. On my old virtualbox system the system clock was so unsteady that ntp would not even lock it down. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Chris Maness wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: >> On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Maness wrote: >> >>> I tried the second Intel adapter in the list and it worked under bridge >>> mode. >> >> >> This is really unsatisfying, can you generate an ifconfig -a and report it >> back so that we can see what you did? >> did you assign multiple interfaces to the machine? are they all bridged or? >> >> I want to make sure that others can learn from this, and that is only >> possible when you shed a little light on the >> things that you did and what caused problems. would you be able to help us >> with that? >> >> -- >> /"\ Best regards,| re...@freebsd.org >> \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet >> Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/| >> / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign| Against HTML Mail and News >> >> > > Yes, I will give a more detailed blow by blow a little latter on. I > am on baby duty right now ;o) > > Chris OK that is a fair excuse :) goodluck with that and please tell us what you did and how you did resolve it. It's one of the strenghts of email archives, if people hit the search string they might be able to see how you resolved it, and thank you for it later :) Cheerio R -- /"\ Best regards,| re...@freebsd.org \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/| / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign| Against HTML Mail and News ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: > On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > >> I tried the second Intel adapter in the list and it worked under bridge mode. > > > This is really unsatisfying, can you generate an ifconfig -a and report it > back so that we can see what you did? > did you assign multiple interfaces to the machine? are they all bridged or? > > I want to make sure that others can learn from this, and that is only > possible when you shed a little light on the > things that you did and what caused problems. would you be able to help us > with that? > > -- > /"\ Best regards, | re...@freebsd.org > \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet > X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | > / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News > > Yes, I will give a more detailed blow by blow a little latter on. I am on baby duty right now ;o) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > I tried the second Intel adapter in the list and it worked under bridge mode. This is really unsatisfying, can you generate an ifconfig -a and report it back so that we can see what you did? did you assign multiple interfaces to the machine? are they all bridged or? I want to make sure that others can learn from this, and that is only possible when you shed a little light on the things that you did and what caused problems. would you be able to help us with that? -- /"\ Best regards,| re...@freebsd.org \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/| / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign| Against HTML Mail and News ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
I tried the second Intel adapter in the list and it worked under bridge mode. Thanks, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:35:23 -0700 > From: Chris Maness > Subject: Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues > > I am not able to ping anything. I cannot ping the gateway or the > host. I tried bridge, NAT, and host only. > Really, not _anything_ ?? how about 127.0.0.1 ? Have you tried pinging a particular IP address, or only by a host name? If you haven't tried by address, please do _that_. and report results. *WHAT* error message(s) do you gt? 1) no route to host 2) destinationi network unreachable 3) destination host unreachable Can you ping things from _outside_ the virtualbox? We're _not_ mind-readers, you know. ,grin. You hae to tell us what _is_ working, as well as what is -not-. So far, it oculd be aything from a device configuratition issue to routing table problems to DNS problems > Chris > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: > > > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > > > >> I have all the pertinent kernel modules loaded, and I have tried all > >> different combination of network settings in virtualbox. =A0This is a > >> FreeBSD host running on a FreeBSD client. > >> > >> Any suggestions appreciated. > >> > >> > > > > Suggestion 1: What are the issues? > > > > -- > > /"\ =A0 Best regards, =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| re= > m...@freebsd.org > > \ / =A0 Remko Lodder =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| re...@e= > Fnet > > X =A0 =A0http://www.evilcoder.org/ =A0 =A0| > > / \ =A0 ASCII Ribbon Campaign =A0 =A0| Against HTML Mail and News > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > I am not able to ping anything. I cannot ping the gateway or the > host. I tried bridge, NAT, and host only. > > Chris OK, and what does tcpdump tell you about the interface? is it passing traffic at all? -- /"\ Best regards,| re...@freebsd.org \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/| / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign| Against HTML Mail and News ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On 15 July 2010 17:35, Chris Maness wrote: > I am not able to ping anything. I cannot ping the gateway or the > host. I tried bridge, NAT, and host only. Can you provide the output of ifconfig and the contents of rc.conf from the virtual machine? (Purpose - to see if the interface exists, what it thinks its link status is and how it's supposed to get an IP) kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jul 15 16:22:58 2010 > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:20:50 -0700 > From: Chris Maness > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Virtualbox Networking Issues > > I have all the pertinent kernel modules loaded, and I have tried all > different combination of network settings in virtualbox. This is a > FreeBSD host running on a FreeBSD client. > > Any suggestions appreciated. Don't get issues, get a subscription! Rseriously, You _have_ to itemize what you've done. You _think_ you have 'all the pertintent kernel modules loaded', but nobody else can tell whetehr or not that is true. Similarly, you THINK youve 'tried all differen combinations', but you obviously haven't tried the 'right' one. ;) You need to specify with some _precision_, what you _expect_ to accomplish. *details* of what you'vetried, and _precisely_ how the results differ from your expectations. At an absolute minimum, you'll need to provide the output from 'ifconfig -a' run _outside_ the virtualbox, and the output from the same command run _inside_ the virtualbox. Also 'netstat -nr' from both environments. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
I am not able to ping anything. I cannot ping the gateway or the host. I tried bridge, NAT, and host only. Chris On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > >> I have all the pertinent kernel modules loaded, and I have tried all >> different combination of network settings in virtualbox. This is a >> FreeBSD host running on a FreeBSD client. >> >> Any suggestions appreciated. >> >> > > Suggestion 1: What are the issues? > > -- > /"\ Best regards, | re...@freebsd.org > \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet > X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | > / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Virtualbox Networking Issues
On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > I have all the pertinent kernel modules loaded, and I have tried all > different combination of network settings in virtualbox. This is a > FreeBSD host running on a FreeBSD client. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Suggestion 1: What are the issues? -- /"\ Best regards,| re...@freebsd.org \ / Remko Lodder | re...@efnet Xhttp://www.evilcoder.org/| / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign| Against HTML Mail and News ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Virtualbox Networking Issues
I have all the pertinent kernel modules loaded, and I have tried all different combination of network settings in virtualbox. This is a FreeBSD host running on a FreeBSD client. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
freebsd networking issues
hello: i have two interfaces installed on my freebsd machine (desktop); one is wireless (ath0, facing the internet, 192.168.1.10/24) and another is internal (fxp0, 192.168.2.1/24). the internet facing interface of the freebsd works fine: from my xp laptop (192.168.1.2), i can ping the interface of freebsd (ath0, facing internet, 192.168.1.10). also from the freebsd machine, i can ping the default gateway (192.168.1.1) and get access to internet. but the second interface doesn't work. from the freebsd machine, i can't ping anywhere on the 192.168.2.0/24 except own ip address. with "arp -a" on freebsd, i can only see mac address of own interface (fxp0), but not mac addresses of other machinese on the net 192.168.2.0/24. i connected internet side directly (without ath0) with fxp0 and the interface works fine. the bottom line is: on the net 192.168.2.0/24, i can't see any mac addresses. in the file /etc/rc.conf, i have the line "gateway_enbale="YES"" but i don't think it matters since i have no intention to use the freebsd machine as a router anyway. any ideas? thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Networking issues
Hello, On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Falanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD machine in > the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, I tried so that I > could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No problem I thought, his > modem has a different IP than the one I have in my /etc/hosts file, but this > turned to not be the case. This may be off-topic, but... I am using cable internet Time Warner/Road Runner/Earthlink in New York. However, I have a wireless router behind the cable modem and the router is registered with dyndns.org. When I registered with them, I chose a dns name from them for the router and every time my IP changes the router sends a request and their database is updated with the new IP - this is roughly how they work. So I can access machines in my home network usind a DNS name instead of an IP address. You and your dad may find this setup useful. Regards Rambius Tangra Mega Rock: http://www.radiotangra.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Networking issues
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:19:04 -0600 Andrew Falanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD > machine in the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, > I tried so that I could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No > problem I thought, his modem has a different IP than the one I have > in my /etc/hosts file, but this turned to not be the case. > > Well, after some digging, I did a traceroute to his IP address. The > packets went all over the place, from San Jose, to Colorado, back to > San Jose, to Colorado then to Ohio, then to Denver, then to San Jose, > then to Ohio, etc. (you get the idea). This is not necessarily wrong, I used to have a dialup account where connections within the UK would go often go to London, then go round a tour of Western Europe, and then come back through London. Although there probably is a fault in your case since you can't connect. > First, my DSL modems IP is 71.221.172.38, however, the default route > appears to be 67.41.38.201. I think Point-to-Point links just work like that, with arbitrary addresses on either end of the link. My address and gateway have only the first byte in common. > [/usr/home/andy] > -> traceroute -n 67.41.38.201 > traceroute to 67.41.38.201 (67.41.38.201), 64 hops max, 52 byte > packets 1 * * * > 2 67.41.38.201 40.303 ms * 39.421 ms > > Why on earth would there be delays on the first hop when not using > name resolution? I don't see what name resolution has to do with the delay, the 39ms is the round-trip time to the gateway at the ISP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Networking issues
Hello, I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD machine in the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, I tried so that I could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No problem I thought, his modem has a different IP than the one I have in my /etc/hosts file, but this turned to not be the case. Well, after some digging, I did a traceroute to his IP address. The packets went all over the place, from San Jose, to Colorado, back to San Jose, to Colorado then to Ohio, then to Denver, then to San Jose, then to Ohio, etc. (you get the idea). Eventually, traceroute was just lost and confused and I hit ctrl-c. Thinking the problem would work itself out, I decided to wait and try again tonight however, I'm having the same problem tonight. Obviously, though, I can use my Internet connection (after all, the e-mail . . .), but why can't I get to his IP address. For kicks and grins tonight, I logged onto my DSL modem and looked at it's routing table. I found some interesting information. First, my DSL modems IP is 71.221.172.38, however, the default route appears to be 67.41.38.201. Obviously, I've got to cross at least one network to get to this default route in the first place. I'm assuming this is the default route because it appears in the routing table as such: destnetmask gateway 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 67.41.38.201 Now, here's the output of traceroute (with name resolution turned off): [/usr/home/andy] -> traceroute -n 67.41.38.201 traceroute to 67.41.38.201 (67.41.38.201), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 * * * 2 67.41.38.201 40.303 ms * 39.421 ms Why on earth would there be delays on the first hop when not using name resolution? Ok, now my machines setup: my DSL modem is the router (as you all knew). It also acts as a DHCP server but my FreeBSD machine is setup as static IP. The local, private, IP network is 192.168.0.0/24 with the DSL modem as 192.168.0.1 and my box is statically assigned 192.168.0.10. Any thoughts as what might be wrong on my end before I start bugging my ISP? Thanks, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Odd Keyboard, mouse, networking issues
Outback Dingo wrote: I installed FreeBSD 7 on a IBM thinkpad Z60M, Xorg from ports, 3 different window managers, kde, xfce4 and fvwm-crystal in console, there is no issue in X anytime i type something on the keyboard, anything, regardelss of being in a console or in firefox the text doesnt display, or execute until i move the mouse ie.. in a console under X if i were to type ps ax nothing would print, or execute until i moved the mouse, then it prints and executes in firefox, i can type in a full url in the address bar, nothing types or prints until i move the mouse if i click file, the menu doesnt open until i move the mouse ever so slightly. This occurs in all window managers, both xfce and fvwm-crystal, which leads me to think this is an OS problem or a port installed the all window managers use.. ie... dbus? fam ? hal ? its quite odd and disturbing since i used kde3 on FreeBSD-7-PRERELEASE and BETAs for months this same laptop has run FreeBSD fine for 2 years i blew away the old installation to install a fresh system all ports are built from ports im connected to the intenet via wireless ( iwi0 ) and have a usb mouse ( logitech ) video for X is ATI Ive had the same hardware for the longest time, a fresh install and a fresh set of packages on 7 is now creating havoc even networking seems choppy unless i am moving the mouse, like during a download, console doesnt update until the mouse moves any thought or ideas on where to start looking ? dmesg attached It's a known issue under discussion in the freebsd-x11 list at the moment. Something in the latest gnome upgrade went a bit askew, and hal is running rampant and causing havoc. Some suggested fixes are: * Reconfigure Xorg so it recognises your mouse as /dev/usm0 (for USB mice) or /dev/psm0 (for ps/2 mice) rather than /dev/sysmouse * Apply a patch to the sysutils/hal port created by Joe Marcus Clarke -- see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2008-March/006210.html * Recompile x11-servers/xorg-server after toggling off the HAL support in the OPTIONS dialogue. However, all of these are still in really the very early stages of debugging and solving this problem. Any of the proposed solutions has undesirable side effects which may or may not preclude your being able to use them. I recommend that you read the entire thread 'X pausing until mouse move' starting here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2008-March/006179.html so you understand the pros and cons as well as is possible before trying anything. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Odd Keyboard, mouse, networking issues
I installed FreeBSD 7 on a IBM thinkpad Z60M, Xorg from ports, 3 different window managers, kde, xfce4 and fvwm-crystal in console, there is no issue in X anytime i type something on the keyboard, anything, regardelss of being in a console or in firefox the text doesnt display, or execute until i move the mouse ie.. in a console under X if i were to type ps ax nothing would print, or execute until i moved the mouse, then it prints and executes in firefox, i can type in a full url in the address bar, nothing types or prints until i move the mouse if i click file, the menu doesnt open until i move the mouse ever so slightly. This occurs in all window managers, both xfce and fvwm-crystal, which leads me to think this is an OS problem or a port installed the all window managers use.. ie... dbus? fam ? hal ? its quite odd and disturbing since i used kde3 on FreeBSD-7-PRERELEASE and BETAs for months this same laptop has run FreeBSD fine for 2 years i blew away the old installation to install a fresh system all ports are built from ports im connected to the intenet via wireless ( iwi0 ) and have a usb mouse ( logitech ) video for X is ATI Ive had the same hardware for the longest time, a fresh install and a fresh set of packages on 7 is now creating havoc even networking seems choppy unless i am moving the mouse, like during a download, console doesnt update until the mouse moves any thought or ideas on where to start looking ? dmesg attached dmes Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"