Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 10:40 +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Andreas Kohn wrote: Hi, say, do you see any messages like NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 006500ac 0080 (Numbers may vary, I think) in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened? AFAIK this is not a FreeBSD-specific problem. I think this URL is right but the site isn't responding at the moment. I don't know if there is a solution there or not. There were some interesting comments about running glxgears before running a game making things better, if that's the kind of thing you are doing (gaming, that is), but I never got to the end of the thread. Most people reported the problem on much newer cards but the Xid is the classic symptom. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49117 You could always try the nv drivers. My Ge2 worked fine on them for years, while my 6600 suffered corruption at least once a day. Hi, I'm using the nvidia-provided drivers because of the speed increase they give. nv works fine, yes...but too slow :) I spent some time reading through the posts, and yes, there were some very interesting things said there. Thanks for the pointer. For some reason, my system now works with 7667. No hangs, no NVRM messages. The only things I changed: - a lot of reinstalling 6113/7667, perhaps somewhere there was a corrupted file that now got mysteriously replaced by a correct version? - playing with modelines. I changed the resolution from 1920x1200 to 1600x1000, to gain a higher refresh rate. Before, I also saw NVRM: Xid: 17, Head=0 X=1920 Y=1200 Refresh=75 which I regarded as simple information items from nvidia-driver. I don't get these messages with 1600x1000 anymore. So whatever it was, it looks gone. Unfortunately, I can't give any tips on what to try :/ Thanks! -- Andreas -- TalisA was macht man eigentlich auf einer linux-gamer lan ? hl server aufsetzen und freuen ? *duck* ^^ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
On Sunday 10 July 2005 20:34, Andreas Kohn wrote: I'm using the nvidia-provided drivers because of the speed increase they give. nv works fine, yes...but too slow :) I spent some time reading through the posts, and yes, there were some very interesting things said there. Thanks for the pointer. For some reason, my system now works with 7667. No hangs, no NVRM messages. The only things I changed: - a lot of reinstalling 6113/7667, perhaps somewhere there was a corrupted file that now got mysteriously replaced by a correct version? - playing with modelines. I changed the resolution from 1920x1200 to 1600x1000, to gain a higher refresh rate. Before, I also saw NVRM: Xid: 17, Head=0 X=1920 Y=1200 Refresh=75 which I regarded as simple information items from nvidia-driver. I don't get these messages with 1600x1000 anymore. So whatever it was, it looks gone. Unfortunately, I can't give any tips on what to try :/ I don't know if this is relevant to your problem, but whenever I update X, I have to portupgrade -f my nvidia driver because it causes X to crash whenever any opengl apps are run (eg glxgears, opengl screen savers). If you had updated part of X recently, it may have been the source of your problem. Cheers, -- Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc pgp1FizrhoJ9C.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Friedman Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:13 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 at 15:09 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, you can call them on their support line. Please report back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us. Ted, Here's a followup report on the resolution of my video card problem. Review: The card I got with my new machine was an Nvidia GeForce 6600 (at least that's how the system identifies it at boot time). The system would lock up once X windows was running, but with no error messages and not until X had been up at least for a while. After downloading the most current Nvidia driver for this card, building a new kernel with 'device agp' removed and telling xorg.conf to use the nvidia agp support, the symptoms still didn't change! Resolution: So, I talked to the vendor who sold me the machine and card and he sent me another card that's not quite as fast - a GeForce FX 5200. I rebooted with the original (GENERIC) kernel, configured my xorg.conf with parameters for my monitor (Samsung ScanMaster 213T), using 1600x1200 resolution, and it all seems to work. Although I suppose I might have gotten the 6600 to work, I don't know how. And using the 5200 card even without the tuning of xorg.conf still didn't give system lockup problems, just sub-optimal screen resolution. So, it would appear that the 6600 card is currently not supported under FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE, unless there's just something else I don't know about. Thus, I'm returning the 6600 card and getting a rebate for the difference in price. That's where it stands now. I have a working system. Thanks for the various suggestions I received here. Hi Mike, If I had a buck for every time a similar thing happened to someone I would bet that if you took that 6600 card to enough DIFFERENT systems, you would find a motherboard in which it worked perfectly under FreeBSD 5.4. And I would also bet that if I took your 5200 card to enough DIFFERENT systems I would find several motherboards on which it locked up the same as the 6600 card - and some of those would be boards in which the 6600 worked flawlessly! This kind of thing is just par for the course in hardware and is why the people at Dell and HP that select parts from OEMs for their systems get paid the big bucks. I hope you fully document everything and send it all off to the driver people at Nvidia, maybe they can patch around the problem. Glad to hear the system is working! An ounce of stability is worth a pound of go-fast gadgetry. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I would bet that if you took that 6600 card to enough DIFFERENT systems, you would find a motherboard in which it worked perfectly under FreeBSD 5.4. 6600 GT in an Asus A8V Deluxe + nvidia drivers (but not nv drivers where mozilla corrupts one a day). Of course it's just *a* 6600, probably from a different manufacturer. This kind of thing is just par for the course in hardware and is why the people at Dell and HP that select parts from OEMs for their systems get paid the big bucks. Sure. And to find incompatible power supplies, write new firmware which doesn't work properly... ;-) --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 at 15:09 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, you can call them on their support line. Please report back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us. Ted, Here's a followup report on the resolution of my video card problem. Review: The card I got with my new machine was an Nvidia GeForce 6600 (at least that's how the system identifies it at boot time). The system would lock up once X windows was running, but with no error messages and not until X had been up at least for a while. After downloading the most current Nvidia driver for this card, building a new kernel with 'device agp' removed and telling xorg.conf to use the nvidia agp support, the symptoms still didn't change! Resolution: So, I talked to the vendor who sold me the machine and card and he sent me another card that's not quite as fast - a GeForce FX 5200. I rebooted with the original (GENERIC) kernel, configured my xorg.conf with parameters for my monitor (Samsung ScanMaster 213T), using 1600x1200 resolution, and it all seems to work. Although I suppose I might have gotten the 6600 to work, I don't know how. And using the 5200 card even without the tuning of xorg.conf still didn't give system lockup problems, just sub-optimal screen resolution. So, it would appear that the 6600 card is currently not supported under FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE, unless there's just something else I don't know about. Thus, I'm returning the 6600 card and getting a rebate for the difference in price. That's where it stands now. I have a working system. Thanks for the various suggestions I received here. Mike == -Original Message- From: Mike Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:57 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 21:20 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written driver, see here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html and see if it works. Read the readme file with this driver carefully first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have posted notes on setting this driver up. _ Mike Friedman System and Network Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2484 Shattuck Avenue 1-510-642-1410 University of California at Berkeley http://ack.Berkeley.EDU/~mikef http://security.berkeley.edu _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBQtCuc60bf1iNr4mCEQIXkACdGg0zfL5ccsZitNonap48Dus9sFoAnRO2 85MVYgW7gIICZALiJH43vbTc =7ro1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
Andreas Kohn wrote: Hi, say, do you see any messages like NVRM: Xid: 13, 02005600 0056 0c28 006500ac 0080 (Numbers may vary, I think) in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened? AFAIK this is not a FreeBSD-specific problem. I think this URL is right but the site isn't responding at the moment. I don't know if there is a solution there or not. There were some interesting comments about running glxgears before running a game making things better, if that's the kind of thing you are doing (gaming, that is), but I never got to the end of the thread. Most people reported the problem on much newer cards but the Xid is the classic symptom. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49117 You could always try the nv drivers. My Ge2 worked fine on them for years, while my 6600 suffered corruption at least once a day. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 5:29 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, you can call them on their support line. Please report back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us. Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet, although there are initiatives. Yes, here's 2: http://www.xgitech.com/about/about_press1.asp?CTID=%7BC3FD7D03-6BE1-4BB9- 9F34-1221E723B87F%7D http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/2005_archive/pr050412_driver source.jsp Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, you can call them on their support line. Please report back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us. Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet, although there are initiatives. Regards, Ron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 02:28:41PM +0200, Ron wrote: Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet, although there are initiatives. There is support for older cards from ATI (up to the Radeon 9250 aka RV280) in Xorg and the kernel (drm device). Ditto for Matrox G200/400, SIS 300/630/540. There is support for several intel integrated graphics chipsets in xorg, but not in the 5.x kernel, although it's in CURRENT. Roland -- R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt pgpcGFcymJOmK.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, you can call them on their support line. Please report back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support us. Ted -Original Message- From: Mike Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:57 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 21:20 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written driver, see here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html and see if it works. Read the readme file with this driver carefully first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have posted notes on setting this driver up. As I indicated in my posting (see below), I did install the March, 2005 version (7174) of the nvidia driver. Are you saying that this new version should make the difference? Thanks. Mike nvidia-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174 video driver == _ Mike Friedman System and Network Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2484 Shattuck Avenue 1-510-642-1410 University of California at Berkeley http://ack.Berkeley.EDU/~mikef http://security.berkeley.edu _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBQsYes60bf1iNr4mCEQKNtQCfR7vi8O/pzD3Ixb2Ab1dd9h6lcVgAn3ZB SeNLmdi9F2wGs9gD5UL2DYok =v2eC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written driver, see here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html and see if it works. Read the readme file with this driver carefully first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have posted notes on setting this driver up. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Friedman Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:28 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Apologies for the long post, but I'm including a lot of information since the problem appears obscure -- to me anyway). I've just acquired a new computer (specs shown below) on which I've installed FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE. I'm running Xorg 6.8.2 as my X windows platform. When X is running, even if I'm not doing anything explicitly on the console (though a clock is always being updated on the screen), the machine will completely lock up, even though it had been running fine for a while and I was even able to bring up some Gnome windows before the lockup occurred. Once the system has locked up, only a *hard reset* (holding machine startup button down for several seconds) will free it up and bring down the system so I can reboot. As long as I don't run startx, I can use the system for hours at a time with no problem. I'm enclosing below as much information as I can about my environment, not only for whatever help it might be in figuring this out, but also to emphasize the point that I got no other explicit error messages. Any ideas about what the problem might be? Thanks. Mike Friedman == System: Intel D915PCY Motherboard Intel P4-530J 3.0 GHz 1Mb Cache/800MHz-FSB nVidia 6600 PCI-e 16X Video Card nvidia-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174 video driver == Samsung 213T 21 LCD monitor FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (i386) Xorg 6.8.2 Gnome2-2.10.0 - -- xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load record Load xtrap Load freetype Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse EndSection Section Monitor #DisplaySize 430 320 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName SAM ModelNameSyncMaster ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync30.0 - 81.0 # VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option HWcursor # [bool] #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option UseFBDev # [bool] #Option Rotate# [str] #Option VideoKey # i #Option FlatPanel # [bool] #Option FPDither # [bool] #Option CrtcNumber# i #Option FPScale # [bool] #Option FPTweak # i Identifier Card0 Driver nvidia VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName GeForce2 Go BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1024x768
RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 21:20 (-0700), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Your going to have to rebuild your system with the Nvidia written driver, see here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7667.html and see if it works. Read the readme file with this driver carefully first, then dig around the Internet, there are a few people who have posted notes on setting this driver up. As I indicated in my posting (see below), I did install the March, 2005 version (7174) of the nvidia driver. Are you saying that this new version should make the difference? Thanks. Mike nvidia-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-7174 video driver == _ Mike Friedman System and Network Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2484 Shattuck Avenue 1-510-642-1410 University of California at Berkeley http://ack.Berkeley.EDU/~mikef http://security.berkeley.edu _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBQsYes60bf1iNr4mCEQKNtQCfR7vi8O/pzD3Ixb2Ab1dd9h6lcVgAn3ZB SeNLmdi9F2wGs9gD5UL2DYok =v2eC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
