Re: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-12 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Rob wrote:

> Warren Block wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 May 2004, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
> >
> >>I've heard a lot of comments about the booting
> >>process of freebsd, that it is much faster than
> >>booting into Linux.
> >
> > It is.
>
> I also seem to remember that from my long-time-back linux experience.
> Given a same amount of services to run on either system, what are obvious,
> easy to understand, reasons for FreeBSD to be quicker than Linux?

I don't know. 8-)  All I know is that some time back I tried FreeBSD
4.x (I think) and a couple of Linux versions on the same system, and
FreeBSD was noticeably quicker at bringing up KDE and running it.

> > sendmail_enable="NONE"
>
> I once tried that, but the system was cluttering up lots of undeliverable
> emails to root. Apparently system maintenance reports its results by
> email to root, and cannot deliver it without having basic sendmail running.

There's some information in the man page for 'periodic' that lets you
change the email to log files, and control what is logged.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-12 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Pavel Duda wrote:

> Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
>  >
> >  Please help me sir. I want to make the most out
> > of my FreeBSD system. And one last thing, I know this
> > might sound ignorant on my part but... could you tell
> > how to run multiple programs in one log-in prompt? I
> > didn't acctualy understand how virtual consoles works
> > so every time I'm playing mp3 on mpg123, I will have
> > to press the F keys to login to another prompt just to
> >
> > be able to run another program.
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Mark
> >
>
> Take a look at screen ( ports/misc/screen ).
Or type an ampersand "&" at the end of your mpg123 command. It
will go into the background and you can go on working with your
shell.

Uli.

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Re: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-12 Thread Pavel Duda
Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
>
 Please help me sir. I want to make the most out
of my FreeBSD system. And one last thing, I know this
might sound ignorant on my part but... could you tell
how to run multiple programs in one log-in prompt? I
didn't acctualy understand how virtual consoles works
so every time I'm playing mp3 on mpg123, I will have
to press the F keys to login to another prompt just to
be able to run another program.

Thanks a lot,
Mark
Take a look at screen ( ports/misc/screen ).

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Re: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-12 Thread Rob
Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2004, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:


   I've heard a lot of comments about the booting
process of freebsd, that it is much faster than
booting into Linux.
It is.
I also seem to remember that from my long-time-back linux experience.
Given a same amount of services to run on either system, what are obvious,
easy to understand, reasons for FreeBSD to be quicker than Linux?
You don't say if there's any particular step that is slow.  New systems
often lack reverse DNS, so sendmail will sit there for thirty seconds or
more just waiting.  Not sure about the minimum required, but giving the
system's hostname in /etc/hosts helps.  If you don't need sendmail, turn
it off by adding
sendmail_enable="NONE"
I once tried that, but the system was cluttering up lots of undeliverable
emails to root. Apparently system maintenance reports its results by
email to root, and cannot deliver it without having basic sendmail running.
As soon as I switched to 'sendmail_enable="NO"', immediately after
the first boot-up, the system was busy for a long while to deliver all
the previously cluttered-up undeliverable emails.
I consider this to be a nasty side effect of system maintenance.
Regards,
Rob.
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Re: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-12 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 11 May 2004, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:

> I've heard a lot of comments about the booting
> process of freebsd, that it is much faster than
> booting into Linux.

It is.

> I'm not experiencing quite as much as what their saying right now.

You don't say if there's any particular step that is slow.  New systems
often lack reverse DNS, so sendmail will sit there for thirty seconds or
more just waiting.  Not sure about the minimum required, but giving the
system's hostname in /etc/hosts helps.  If you don't need sendmail, turn
it off by adding

sendmail_enable="NONE"

in /etc/rc.conf.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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RE: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-11 Thread Robert Huff

Eric Crist writes:

>  On my system, unless you're in X, it's Alt-Fn (you have to do
>  Ctl-Alt-Fn from an X session).

I did not know that.
Thanks.


Robert Huff


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RE: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-11 Thread Eric Crist
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Eric Crist writes:

>  You can send a program into the background by trailing the command
> with  &&.  So, if you want to run amp (an mp3 player), you could
> simply type:
>
>  # amp song.mp3 &&

I thought '&' was background and "&&" meant "execute the
foillowing command only if the previous command completed without
error"?

You're correct here My bad.

>  An easier solution is to login to a second virtual terminal by
> hitting Alt-F2 (all the way up to F7).  Then just switch back by
> pressing Alt-F1, or whichever terminal you were on before.

And its Ctl-Alt-Fn, not Alt-Fn on my -Current system

On my system, unless you're in X, it's Alt-Fn (you have to do Ctl-Alt-Fn
from an X session).


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Re: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-11 Thread Bob Collins
Robert Huff wrote:
[snip]

An easier solution is to login to a second virtual terminal by
hitting Alt-F2 (all the way up to F7).  Then just switch back by
pressing Alt-F1, or whichever terminal you were on before.


	And its Ctl-Alt-Fn, not Alt-Fn on my -Current system

IIRC, Ctrl-Alt-Fn is for when using GUI. My 4.9 and 5.0 systems do fine 
between terminals with Alt-Fn

--Bob
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RE: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-11 Thread Robert Huff

Eric Crist writes:

>  You can send a program into the background by trailing the command with
>  &&.  So, if you want to run amp (an mp3 player), you could simply type:
>  
>  # amp song.mp3 &&

I thought '&' was background and "&&" meant "execute the
foillowing command only if the previous command completed without error"?


>  An easier solution is to login to a second virtual terminal by
>  hitting Alt-F2 (all the way up to F7).  Then just switch back by
>  pressing Alt-F1, or whichever terminal you were on before.

And its Ctl-Alt-Fn, not Alt-Fn on my -Current system


Robert Huff


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RE: Help: Speeding up Boot Process

2004-05-11 Thread Eric Crist
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Sir,
[SNIP]

And one last thing, I know this
might sound ignorant on my part but... could you tell
how to run multiple programs in one log-in prompt? I
didn't acctualy understand how virtual consoles works
so every time I'm playing mp3 on mpg123, I will have
to press the F keys to login to another prompt just to
be able to run another program.

Mark,

You can send a program into the background by trailing the command with
&&.  So, if you want to run amp (an mp3 player), you could simply type:

# amp song.mp3 &&

An easier solution is to login to a second virtual terminal by hitting
Alt-F2 (all the way up to F7).  Then just switch back by pressing
Alt-F1, or whichever terminal you were on before.

HTH

Eric F Crist













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