Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread n j
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desktop and casual usage ... ports may serve you better if you like to stay

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Dmitry Sarkisov
On 10-01-2012, Tue [08:51:33], n j wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desktop and casual usage ...

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 10/01/2012 09:23, Dmitry Sarkisov wrote: Would be nice to know if there any plans on switching to pkgng or any other pkg management system in a future. pkgng is under active development with the stated aim of replacing the current packaging system. If you want to get involved, check out

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 9-1-2012 23:00, alexus schreef: Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are somewhat limited vs ports... For example: I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Dmitry Sarkisov
On 10-01-2012, Tue [10:16:06], Matthew Seaman wrote: On 10/01/2012 09:23, Dmitry Sarkisov wrote: Would be nice to know if there any plans on switching to pkgng or any other pkg management system in a future. pkgng is under active development with the stated aim of replacing the

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Eric Masson
Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl writes: Hi, As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. *You* think it's stupid. There's not one true way to serve php pages, more and more platforms use a lightweight httpd daemon like nginx and php-fpm for example. If you manage many

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl writes: Hi, As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. *You* think it's stupid. Yes, as I wrote: stupid imo But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's better to *have*

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote: Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl  writes: Hi, As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. *You* think it's stupid. Yes, as I wrote: stupid imo But thanks

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Peter
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote: Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl  writes: Hi, As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. *You* think it's stupid. Yes, as I wrote: stupid imo But thanks

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Eric Masson
Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org writes: Hi, IMO it's stupid as well and I second Dick's opinion. You're at least two, great. The module doesn't hurt anyone, and reduces confusion. I think that PHP is still more heavily deployed on mod_php than on anything else. The Apache module should be

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-09 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 1/9/12 6:48 PM, claudiu vasadi wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:17 PM, alexus ale...@gmail.com wrote: Ports vs Packages? /usr/ports vs pkg_* pros/cons -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-09 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- [...] Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desktop and casual usage ... ports may serve

RE: ports vs packages

2012-01-09 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: aim...@yabarana.com [mailto:aim...@yabarana.com] On Behalf Of Alejandro Imass Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:37 AM To: Devin Teske Cc: alexus; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-09 Thread alexus
Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are somewhat limited vs ports... For example: I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that links Apache and PHP together... so

Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-09 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:00 PM, alexus ale...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are somewhat limited vs ports... For example: I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, php5

Re: Ports vs Packages

2005-12-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:17:01PM -0800, Jose Borquez wrote: When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another server would

Re: Ports vs Packages

2005-12-13 Thread albi
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:17:01 -0800 Jose Borquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another

Re: Ports vs Packages

2005-12-13 Thread Nathan Vidican
Jose Borquez wrote: When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another server would still use the same locations for both?

Re: Ports vs Packages

2005-12-13 Thread Jose Borquez
Nathan Vidican wrote: Jose Borquez wrote: When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another server would still use the same

Re: Ports vs Packages

2005-12-13 Thread Chris
Jose Borquez wrote: Nathan Vidican wrote: Jose Borquez wrote: When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another server

Re: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-19 Thread Jason Stewart
Charles Howse wrote: Packages are nice for the speed you can install them with, but can be much harder to deal with the dependencies unless you use something like portupgrade (which is much more useful after you've got what you want installed and want to keep it all up to date). Well,

Re: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Adam McLaurin
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 19:14, Charles Howse wrote: I'm confused ( which is not an uncommon occurrence ), let's say I know I don't need to edit the source code of any of the additional software that I plan to install, but I want the latest version. Should I install from ports or

RE: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Charles Howse
Neither. I'd recommend installing sysutils/portupgrade and using the portinstall option to fetch install packages (so you always get the latest version). Check the -P and -PP options to portinstall. Note that doing this will require you to have an updated ports tree. You'll need to cvsup

Re: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Mykroft Holmes IV
Charles Howse wrote: I'm confused ( which is not an uncommon occurrence ), let's say I know I don't need to edit the source code of any of the additional software that I plan to install, but I want the latest version. Should I install from ports or sysistall/packages/FTP? I just installed

RE: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Adam McLaurin
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 19:25, Charles Howse wrote: Will doing it that way require all the compiling? No, packages are pre-compiled. Note that you'll sometimes have to wait a little longer to get the updated packages, since the maintainer has to submit a compiled binary, but doesn't always do

RE: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Charles Howse
Will doing it that way require all the compiling? No, packages are pre-compiled. Note that you'll sometimes have to wait a little longer to get the updated packages, since the maintainer has to submit a compiled binary, but doesn't always do so immediately after a port is updated.

Re: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Mark Woodson
On Monday 18 August 2003 04:25 pm, Charles Howse wrote: Neither. I'd recommend installing sysutils/portupgrade and using the portinstall option to fetch install packages (so you always get the latest version). Check the -P and -PP options to portinstall. Note that doing this will

RE: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Charles Howse
Packages are nice for the speed you can install them with, but can be much harder to deal with the dependencies unless you use something like portupgrade (which is much more useful after you've got what you want installed and want to keep it all up to date). Well, that begs the question,

Re: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:34:04PM -0400, Adam McLaurin wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 19:25, Charles Howse wrote: Will doing it that way require all the compiling? No, packages are pre-compiled. Note that you'll sometimes have to wait a little longer to get the updated packages, since the

Re: Ports vs. Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Adam McLaurin
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 22:41, Kris Kennaway wrote: Please wrap your lines at 70 characters so your mail can be easily read. Sorry, my client (Evo 1.4.4) is set to wrap, but for some reason it occasionally decides not to. It's probably some weird GTK bug. -- Adam McLaurin [EMAIL PROTECTED]