Re: USB printer problem [SOLVED]

2009-01-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 10:57:27 you wrote:
 Your PPD is probably wrong ...

 Accorfing to:
 http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d1500_series.ht
ml

 Your printer is fully supported. But the right PPD seem to be: DJ3320

 Get into the cups web interface, remove your printer and set a new one with
 the right values.

 Use this as your uri: hp:/usb/Deskjet_D1500_series?serial=BR8AEFN0N0058V
 Use this as your PPD: DJ3320

 Let's how that goes ;)

 Please Mario, don't leave alone ! I just _want_ to see you got your printer
 up and runnig :)
 So do not hesitate in  getting bac to me if you run into a wen problem.
 We _will_ sort it out :)

 Worst case scenario, your gonna have to wait until FreeBSD port catches up
 with the lates hplip release

 Best regards

mario wrote:

 I replaced the ppd and still no go:

 Description: HP Deskjet D1500 series
 Location: Local Printer
 Printer Driver: HP DeskJet 3320 Foomatic/hpijs (recommended)
 Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published.
 Device URI: hp:/usb/Deskjet_D1500_series?serial=BR8AEFN0N0058V


 All I get is:

 /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed

 and again nothing gets printed.

IT WORKED !!

I finalinally found what was wrong !.

the error i was getting was:

 Ghostscript 8.63: Can't start ijs server hpijs

then I found this bug report for ghostscript:

--
From-To:freebsd-ports-bugs-doceng
By: pav
When:   Wed Nov 12 16:19:39 UTC 2008
Why:Assign to maintainer

Reply via E-mail
From:   Peter Orlowski pet...@itp.physik.tu-berlin.de
Date:   Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:41:30 +0100

This seems to be related to the pthread lib. Setting

STDLIBS=-lm
SYNC=nosync

in work/ghostscript8.63/src/Makefile.in fixes the error.
--

That did it. The printer now works perfectly !

Thanks Gonzalo for your ever-lasting good will, patience and support !
God bless you !
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Re: USB printer problem

2009-01-04 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Sunday 04 January 2009 2:21:34 pm Mario Lobo wrote:
 Hi;

 I've been trying for 2 days with no success

 Here is the setup:

 FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 10 22:25:05 BRT 200

 -printer detected

 kernel: ulpt0: HP Deskjet D1500 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
 kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode

 /etc/devfs.conf
 own ulpt0   root:cups
 permulpt0   0660

 /etc/devfs.rules
 [system=10]
 add path lpt[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups
 add path ulpt[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups
 add path unlpt[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups

 /etc/rc.conf
 devfs_system_ruleset=system
 cupsd_enable=YES

 and nothing bellow works !

 # lptest 20 10  /dev/ulpt0
 # /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -r600x600 -sDEVICE=ijs
 -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/hpijs -dIjsUseOutputFD -sOutputFile=-
 -sDeviceManufacturer=HP -sDeviceModel=DJ3600 /tmp/foomatic-rip.ps

  /dev/ulpt0

 # cat /etc/rc.conf  /dev/ulpt0

 The printer doesn't even move !

 Tried changing usb ports:

 Jan  4 12:59:38 kernel: ulpt0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
 Jan  4 12:59:38 kernel: ulpt0: detached
 Jan  4 12:59:41 kernel: ulpt0: HP Deskjet D1500 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr
 2, iclass 7/1
 Jan  4 12:59:41 kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode

 and nothing happens :(


 I've been googling for 2 days, read all I could, tried all I read and
 nothing happens.

 any suggestions?

 Thanks!

Sure ...
Acording to your mail, you seem to be using hplip as a back end ... 

[gonz...@inferna ~]% pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/hpijs
/usr/local/bin/hpijs was installed by package hplip-2.8.2_3
[gonz...@inferna ~]%

Its all there in hplip's installation notes... you need hpssd up and running 
and the printer should be attached to ugen ... hplip doesn't work with 
ulpt ..

[gonz...@inferna ~]% pkg_info -xD hplip
Information for hplip-2.8.2_3:

Install notice:
**

 UPGRADE FROM 1.X NOTICE *

NOTE: If you are upgrading from 1.x you will need to
change your devfs ruleset as hpiod is now gone, so remove
it from you rc.conf.  The printer communication now runs
through cupsd.  You will need to make the devfs ruleset
changes to allow cups to access the usb bus and ugen
devices so that it can enumerate the printers.  You will
also need to update your hplip.conf.  See the instructions
below.

 UPGRADE FROM 1.X NOTICE *

Add the following to your rc.conf:

hpssd_enable=YES

So all you have to do if you have a custom ruleset setup
is add the following to that ruleset in devfs.rules:

add path 'usb*' group cups
add path 'usb*' mode 0660
add path 'ugen*' group cups
add path 'ugen*' mode 0660

If you have never setup devfs.rules please read the
manpage and see:
http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php

The printer MUST attach as a ugen(4) device.  This means
that you must NOT have device ulpt in your kernel and
ulpt must NOT be loaded as a kernel module.

If you are seeing device connection errors restart the
printing chain with the following command.  NOTE: It MUST
be restarted in the stated order.
%%PREFIX%%/etc/rc.d/hpssd restart  \
%%PREFIX%%/etc/rc.d/cupsd restart

If upgrading from a version  2.7.9 copy the new
hplip.conf.sample config.
cp %%PREFIX%%/etc/hp/hplip.conf.sample \
   %%PREFIX%%/etc/hp/hplip.conf

If you are still having problems check:
http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php
If you are still having problems send the relevant part
of your /var/log/messages, console output from the hp-*
utility that you are trying to run, and your rc.conf +
devfs.rules files and the output of ls -l /dev to the
maintainer.
**
[gonz...@inferna ~]%

I've written a small guide on how to set up a printer using cups and hplip in   
   
f reebsd 7.0 rel, but it is witten in spanish .. anyway ... i still think it 
might help you out .. you can find it in here: 
http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=3019

Good luck!
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Re: USB printer problem

2009-01-04 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 04 January 2009 14:18:06 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
 On Sunday 04 January 2009 2:21:34 pm Mario Lobo wrote:
  Hi;
 
  I've been trying for 2 days with no success
 
  Here is the setup:
 
  FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 10 22:25:05 BRT 200
 
  -printer detected
 
  kernel: ulpt0: HP Deskjet D1500 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
  kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode
 
  /etc/devfs.conf
  own ulpt0   root:cups
  permulpt0   0660
 
  /etc/devfs.rules
  [system=10]
  add path lpt[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups
  add path ulpt[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups
  add path unlpt[0-9]* mode 0660 group cups
 
  /etc/rc.conf
  devfs_system_ruleset=system
  cupsd_enable=YES
 
  and nothing bellow works !
 
  # lptest 20 10  /dev/ulpt0
  # /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -r600x600 -sDEVICE=ijs
  -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/hpijs -dIjsUseOutputFD -sOutputFile=-
  -sDeviceManufacturer=HP -sDeviceModel=DJ3600 /tmp/foomatic-rip.ps
 
   /dev/ulpt0
 
  # cat /etc/rc.conf  /dev/ulpt0
 
  The printer doesn't even move !
 
  Tried changing usb ports:
 
  Jan  4 12:59:38 kernel: ulpt0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
  Jan  4 12:59:38 kernel: ulpt0: detached
  Jan  4 12:59:41 kernel: ulpt0: HP Deskjet D1500 series, rev 2.00/1.00,
  addr 2, iclass 7/1
  Jan  4 12:59:41 kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode
 
  and nothing happens :(
 
 
  I've been googling for 2 days, read all I could, tried all I read and
  nothing happens.
 
  any suggestions?
 
  Thanks!

 Sure ...
 Acording to your mail, you seem to be using hplip as a back end ...

 [gonz...@inferna ~]% pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/hpijs
 /usr/local/bin/hpijs was installed by package hplip-2.8.2_3
 [gonz...@inferna ~]%

 Its all there in hplip's installation notes... you need hpssd up and
 running and the printer should be attached to ugen ... hplip doesn't work
 with ulpt ..

 [gonz...@inferna ~]% pkg_info -xD hplip
 Information for hplip-2.8.2_3:

 Install notice:
 **

  UPGRADE FROM 1.X NOTICE *

 NOTE: If you are upgrading from 1.x you will need to
 change your devfs ruleset as hpiod is now gone, so remove
 it from you rc.conf.  The printer communication now runs
 through cupsd.  You will need to make the devfs ruleset
 changes to allow cups to access the usb bus and ugen
 devices so that it can enumerate the printers.  You will
 also need to update your hplip.conf.  See the instructions
 below.

  UPGRADE FROM 1.X NOTICE *

 Add the following to your rc.conf:

 hpssd_enable=YES

 So all you have to do if you have a custom ruleset setup
 is add the following to that ruleset in devfs.rules:

 add path 'usb*' group cups
 add path 'usb*' mode 0660
 add path 'ugen*' group cups
 add path 'ugen*' mode 0660

 If you have never setup devfs.rules please read the
 manpage and see:
 http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php

 The printer MUST attach as a ugen(4) device.  This means
 that you must NOT have device ulpt in your kernel and
 ulpt must NOT be loaded as a kernel module.

 If you are seeing device connection errors restart the
 printing chain with the following command.  NOTE: It MUST
 be restarted in the stated order.
 %%PREFIX%%/etc/rc.d/hpssd restart  \
 %%PREFIX%%/etc/rc.d/cupsd restart

 If upgrading from a version  2.7.9 copy the new
 hplip.conf.sample config.
 cp %%PREFIX%%/etc/hp/hplip.conf.sample \
%%PREFIX%%/etc/hp/hplip.conf

 If you are still having problems check:
 http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php
 If you are still having problems send the relevant part
 of your /var/log/messages, console output from the hp-*
 utility that you are trying to run, and your rc.conf +
 devfs.rules files and the output of ls -l /dev to the
 maintainer.
 **
 [gonz...@inferna ~]%

 I've written a small guide on how to set up a printer using cups and hplip
 in f reebsd 7.0 rel, but it is witten in spanish .. anyway ... i still
 think it might help you out .. you can find it in here:
 http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=3019

 Good luck!

Hi:

No success. I waited hours for hplip to compile/install and nothing :(

here are some outputs:

==
[~]usbdevs
addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS
addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS
 addr 2: Deskjet D1500 series, HP

[~]dmesg

snip..
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
ugen0: HP Deskjet D1500 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
Timecounter TSC frequency 946495443 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
snip..

[~]hp-info

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 2.8.2)
Device Information Utility ver. 3.4

Copyright (c) 2001-7 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you 

Re: USB / printer woes

2008-04-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:22:02AM -0500, David Reedy Jr wrote:
 Small home network. Bottom line, trying to get a USB printer working 
 with cups. Right now I'm thinking it's more of a usb problem.
 
 USB related dmesg output...
 
 uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd400-0xd41f at device 11.0 on 
 pci2
 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 uhci0: [ITHREAD]
 usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0
 usb0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0
 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd000-0xd01f at device 11.1 on 
 pci2
 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 uhci1: [ITHREAD]
 usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1
 usb1: USB revision 1.0
 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1
 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 ehci0: VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf200-0xf2ff at 
 device 11.2 on pci2
 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 ehci0: [ITHREAD]
 usb2: EHCI version 1.0
 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1
 usb2: VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
 usb2: USB revision 2.0
 uhub2: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb2
 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
 
 when I turn on the printer I get...
 
 ulpt0: HP Deskjet 3840, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub1
 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode
 
 Depending on the physical port connected to, it's either uhub0 or uhub1, 
 connecting to usb0 / usb1 both of which are usb revision 1.0. All the 
 information I have says this printer is usb 2.0. Why is it not 
 attaching to ehci0/uhub2/usb2?

Hard to say. Some USB products react differently depending on how you
connect them. I've got a USB disk enclosure that connects as USB 1.1 if
I make the connection first and then switch it on. 

If I switch it on first and then make the connection it connects as USB
2.0.

Try it and see if it helps.
 
 echo something  /dev/ulpt0 results in silence.

I don't think this is even _supposed_ to work. It's been a while since
you could just cat a file to a printer port. :-)

 So does printing a 
 test page from the cups web interface. It's a black hole.

If you look at the openprinting.org page for this printer, you'll see
that this printer requires the hplip driver; 
http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_3840

You can install it from ports. It is in print/hplip.

 Can anybody tell me what's wrong? Would removing ohci/uhci from the 
 kernel force it to connect to the usb 2.0 side of things?

Make sure that the hplip driver in installed.

Make sure that you have the right permissions set for /dev/ulpt0. 
See /usr/ports/print/cups-base/pkg-message

Have a look at the cups logfiles in /var/log/cups.

Roland
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Re: USB / printer woes

2008-04-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar

connecting to usb0 / usb1 both of which are usb revision 1.0. All the
information I have says this printer is usb 2.0. Why is it not


usb 2.0 doesn't mean USB high speed (480Mbps) but is common mistaken.
it's about protocol not speed.


attaching to ehci0/uhub2/usb2?

echo something  /dev/ulpt0 results in silence. So does printing a
test page from the cups web interface. It's a black hole.

Can anybody tell me what's wrong? Would removing ohci/uhci from the
kernel force it to connect to the usb 2.0 side of things?


it's not a problem here.


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Re: USB printer

2008-03-24 Thread B H

Ted Mittelstädt wrote , at 2008-03-19 05:24:


CUPS  Ghostscript.  gs and all the foomatic stuff runs just fine
with LPR/LPD, no CUPS needed.


Can one use a ppd-file with lpd/lpr?
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-24 Thread punosevac
 Ted Mittelstädt wrote , at 2008-03-19 05:24:

 CUPS  Ghostscript.  gs and all the foomatic stuff runs just fine
 with LPR/LPD, no CUPS needed.

 Can one use a ppd-file with lpd/lpr?
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Of course. A sample printcap file

lp|OfficeJet:\
:lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
:af=/etc/foomatic/HP-OfficeJet_4110-hpijs.ppd:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/OfficeJet:\
:sh:

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-24 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Bernt Hansson wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:

Ted Mittelstädt wrote , at 2008-03-19 05:24:


CUPS  Ghostscript.  gs and all the foomatic stuff runs just fine
with LPR/LPD, no CUPS needed.



Can one use a ppd-file with lpd/lpr?



Of course. A sample printcap file

lp|OfficeJet:\
:lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
:af=/etc/foomatic/HP-OfficeJet_4110-hpijs.ppd:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/OfficeJet:\
:sh:


I'm not using foomatic but the ppd-file from HP for LJ2100, 2200, 4050 
and 8000 is that still possible? They all speak postscript.

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Well if you want to use your printers in PostScript mode you can just 
send row .ps file and it should print i.e.

you can remove the af and if lines from the printcap and should work.

Now what about other file types?

Lets have a second look for instance at LJ2100.

According to Linux Printing Database (which is the one
we also use in BSD world)

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_2100

the recommended way of using for instance LJ2100 is via Printer Command 
Language 5 or 6
i.e. you need a driver. The recommended driver for LJ2100 is  pxlmono 
which is build in  Ghostscript.
If you use printer with Apsfilter you can just select the driver. Files 
of any type should be printed no question asked.


If you use PPD file and fomatic-rip filter as
in the above printcap example the jobs would be passed through pxlmono 
driver.
You may send to printer ps or non ps files (pdf, dvi, gif, html) and 
everything should work no question asked.



The printer will work eight other drivers.

Now the final question is probably that there is custom PPD vile for 
PostScript mode according to the same

Database.
I think that that one is only relevant for CUPS as PPD files are used 
via IPP (only spoken by CUPS) to fake real communication with the  
device and show things like printer status. I am not 100% sure but I 
think that PPD file is
what one would call CUPS-PPD file. If you send let say .pdf file that 
PPD file probably will tell CUPS how to
pass pdf file through GhostScript and create ps version and then print 
it. I am not sure if it going to be useful with
LPD. Of course in the case you do not have any filters in your printcap 
you can send only ps files to printer.


You can play on the following way. Remove the if (input filter line from 
your printcap file) and keep af but put
that particular custom PPD file which is used for PostScript mode. Try 
to send ps and pdf file. If it prints only ps
file that means that PPD  does nothing for LPD if it can print pdf files 
that means that is usable with LPD.


I personally use most printers in PCL mode just because I have lots of 
different mish-mash printer non of which speaks

full PostScript language.

Cheers,
Predrag
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RE: USB printer

2008-03-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:44 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Predrag Punosevac; FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian
 Subject: Re: USB printer


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 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
  understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
  paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
  command line junkie.

 There's where you state it hasn't any cli usages


No, you misread that.  It does nothing other than what you already get
with the base OS.  That is, -lpr/lpd, +cups = no advantage, ie: nothing.

  Sorry, I hate to differ, but even on my Mac OSX with dual PPC
  processors, I
  use lpr all the time, and I use ssh (hostname) lpr filetoprint from
  FreeBSD to my mac, it works just fine, and the Mac is running Cups.  It
  does too do stuff for command line people, it's just that no one
  installing
  cups on FreeBSD has done anything to get that definitely
 established part
  of Cups working right.
 
 
  However, that definitely established part of CUPS duplicates
  lpr/lpd functionality, so it's a big waste of time to bother with
  installing it under FreeBSD and ripping out the existing lpr/lpd
  if all your going to do is use the same /etc/printcap config file
  and same filters that you would use under lpr/lpd.

 And here you forget what you said, and claim the cups is just
 stupid to use
 under CLI

It IS stupid to use under CLI if all your going to be doing is
using the same /etc/printcap config file and same filters that
you would use under lpr/lpd.

Are you a specialist now in ripping out sound bites and ignoring
the rest of the paragraph?

 (no backoff from your FUD above, though).  Our own
 printer system
 DOES NOTHING whatever for remote administration, nor organization of
 drovers, nor ability to print different type sources, nor the added
 security options.


Eh?  ssh into the print server and you can administer all you want.

Organization of drivers?  What drivers?  Why do you need drivers?
Oh I forgot, your too busy dropping $800 in superfast hardware
to image pages for your $99 printer you got free with a coupon, and
prints about 25 pages before the ink cartridge is empty.

 
  The real usefulness of CUPS is under a GUI, particularly married
  with a GUI configuration interface.  For example you didn't
  install your printers under MacOS X by hand-editing the CUPS
  configuration files under MacOS X, you used the GUI configurator
  in System Properties, which interfaces with CUPS.  That's why
  Apple had to license CUPS after all, because they modified it
  under MacOS X to allow the Aqua GUI to interface to it, and they
  didn't want to release the mods they made to it into the wild.
 
  In fact, if you compile ghostscript and compile the foomatic
  software under MacOS X, you can download, compile and using
  the Aqua GUI configurator interface to CUPS, install
  a gigantic number of printer drivers under MacOS X.

 With little trouble, you can (and I did) integrate all the foomatic stuff
 under MacOS, without recompiling.

 
  In the FreeBSD world the usual command-line junkies do the Right
  Thing and go buy a Postscript printer.

 And that also is FUD.  A long time, I think about 20 years back, before I
 knew better, I did exactly that.  It turns out that postscript
 printers run
 about 10 times more slowly than using ghostscript on your system and only
 sending the native image to the printer

absolutely wrong.

Only if you have a really cheap, old Postscript interpreter such as like
the HP III with the add-in Postscript card, stacked against a 3Ghz PC
tied to a winprinter with USB2 will you see this.  Otherwise, you take
the more common elderly 500Mhz CPU Win98 system that's been retired to
a FreeBSD system and tie it to your winprinter and try imaging anything
complex on it, and the PC will take far longer to image it than going
Postscript to a decent printer like an HP5 (which are cheap as dirt
on the used market)

And this is just image printing - text is a whole different ballgame,
it's far faster going Postscript to the printer if your printing
multiple pages because your uploading the fonts and then following
with just a text stream, your not imaging page after page.

All of this of course sidesteps the discussion of what your
considering is a high-end Postscript printer and what your
printing with it and how much your printing.

, so using cups is both far, far
 more cheap

CUPS  Ghostscript.  gs and all the foomatic stuff runs just fine
with LPR/LPD, no CUPS needed.

 (postscript printers being uniformly more expensive)

Any decent workgroup laserjet will cost far less per-page than
an inkjet, even going color, these days.  Your talking false economy
here - sure you may buy a color inkjet for $99 vs a color laser
for $400 but print 500

RE: USB printer

2008-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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 Subject: Re: USB printer
 
 
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  To: Predrag Punosevac
  Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian
  Subject: Re: USB printer
 
 
  Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 
 100% on others
  sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to 
  agree with
  hier(7).  I agree that needed to be done, and would have been 
 complaining
  if it hadn't,  but then there should have been some small 
 notes detailing
  how to install a local driver.  
  
  The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your
  using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI
  configuration software that is written for that desktop that
  makes CUPS configuration a snap.  (and installing foomatic
  drivers and the like)
  
  If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
  understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
  paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
  command line junkie.
 
 Sorry, I hate to differ, but even on my Mac OSX with dual PPC 
 processors, I
 use lpr all the time, and I use ssh (hostname) lpr filetoprint from
 FreeBSD to my mac, it works just fine, and the Mac is running Cups.  It
 does too do stuff for command line people, it's just that no one 
 installing
 cups on FreeBSD has done anything to get that definitely established part
 of Cups working right.
 

However, that definitely established part of CUPS duplicates
lpr/lpd functionality, so it's a big waste of time to bother with
installing it under FreeBSD and ripping out the existing lpr/lpd
if all your going to do is use the same /etc/printcap config file
and same filters that you would use under lpr/lpd.

The real usefulness of CUPS is under a GUI, particularly married
with a GUI configuration interface.  For example you didn't
install your printers under MacOS X by hand-editing the CUPS
configuration files under MacOS X, you used the GUI configurator
in System Properties, which interfaces with CUPS.  That's why
Apple had to license CUPS after all, because they modified it
under MacOS X to allow the Aqua GUI to interface to it, and they
didn't want to release the mods they made to it into the wild.

In fact, if you compile ghostscript and compile the foomatic
software under MacOS X, you can download, compile and using
the Aqua GUI configurator interface to CUPS, install
a gigantic number of printer drivers under MacOS X.

In the FreeBSD world the usual command-line junkies do the Right
Thing and go buy a Postscript printer.  If you have one, all
of the need for these rediculous winprinter filters goes
away and then the only thing that CUPS really adds is the
ability to speak IPP - and I've yet to come across a hardware
printer server that spoke IPP that -didn't- speak LPD also.

Ted
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-17 Thread Chuck Robey
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
 understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
 paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
 command line junkie.

There's where you state it hasn't any cli usages

 Sorry, I hate to differ, but even on my Mac OSX with dual PPC 
 processors, I
 use lpr all the time, and I use ssh (hostname) lpr filetoprint from
 FreeBSD to my mac, it works just fine, and the Mac is running Cups.  It
 does too do stuff for command line people, it's just that no one 
 installing
 cups on FreeBSD has done anything to get that definitely established part
 of Cups working right.

 
 However, that definitely established part of CUPS duplicates
 lpr/lpd functionality, so it's a big waste of time to bother with
 installing it under FreeBSD and ripping out the existing lpr/lpd
 if all your going to do is use the same /etc/printcap config file
 and same filters that you would use under lpr/lpd.

And here you forget what you said, and claim the cups is just stupid to use
under CLI (no backoff from your FUD above, though).  Our own printer system
DOES NOTHING whatever for remote administration, nor organization of
drovers, nor ability to print different type sources, nor the added
security options.

 
 The real usefulness of CUPS is under a GUI, particularly married
 with a GUI configuration interface.  For example you didn't
 install your printers under MacOS X by hand-editing the CUPS
 configuration files under MacOS X, you used the GUI configurator
 in System Properties, which interfaces with CUPS.  That's why
 Apple had to license CUPS after all, because they modified it
 under MacOS X to allow the Aqua GUI to interface to it, and they
 didn't want to release the mods they made to it into the wild.
 
 In fact, if you compile ghostscript and compile the foomatic
 software under MacOS X, you can download, compile and using
 the Aqua GUI configurator interface to CUPS, install
 a gigantic number of printer drivers under MacOS X.

With little trouble, you can (and I did) integrate all the foomatic stuff
under MacOS, without recompiling.

 
 In the FreeBSD world the usual command-line junkies do the Right
 Thing and go buy a Postscript printer.

And that also is FUD.  A long time, I think about 20 years back, before I
knew better, I did exactly that.  It turns out that postscript printers run
about 10 times more slowly than using ghostscript on your system and only
sending the native image to the printer, so using cups is both far, far
more cheap (postscript printers being uniformly more expensive) and far,
far faster (postscript printers mostly being too slow for words, all
excepting the very high end ones).

  If you have one, all
 of the need for these rediculous winprinter filters goes
 away and then the only thing that CUPS really adds is the
 ability to speak IPP - and I've yet to come across a hardware
 printer server that spoke IPP that -didn't- speak LPD also.

Again wrong.  Usually, until lately, my printer of choice has been a HP
OfficeJet printer, which uses PCL5 for it's language,  You can only use IPP
if cups happens to be on both machines involved, but there are excellent,
mature things designed for FreeBSD, like apsfilter, which do all the
translation from the original format to postscript then back to whatever is
native, and handle all the spooling and multi-format printing.  The only
negative, really, in cups is that it asks you to use the lpr in
/usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin. and that (under FreeBSD) it's
installation is execrebly documented and mis/under installed.  It and it
alone allows a nice REMOTE gui interface to administer with, but you sort
of forgot that.  The Foomatic project, a con of CUPS (one that clearly asks
you to install CUPS), with it's GREAT documentation of drivers and
production of ppd files, is by far the best unix effort to organize printer
drivers, that's flatly true.

Even the fine GUI admin isn't forced to be GUI, because they allow you to
use their CLI options also.  None of your arguments hold water.

The only thing wrong with CUPS is that under FreeBSD it's
mis/under-installed, and the rest of your points (I think I've competently
shown) are incorrect).  I don't recognize what bias seems to be fueling
your dislike of it, but I think it's undeniably true that you exhibit one.


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RE: USB printer

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 To: Predrag Punosevac
 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian
 Subject: Re: USB printer
 
 
 Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others
 sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to 
 agree with
 hier(7).  I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining
 if it hadn't,  but then there should have been some small notes detailing
 how to install a local driver.  

The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your
using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI
configuration software that is written for that desktop that
makes CUPS configuration a snap.  (and installing foomatic
drivers and the like)

If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
command line junkie.

Ted
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-16 Thread Chuck Robey
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
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 To: Predrag Punosevac
 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian
 Subject: Re: USB printer


 Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others
 sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to 
 agree with
 hier(7).  I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining
 if it hadn't,  but then there should have been some small notes detailing
 how to install a local driver.  
 
 The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your
 using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI
 configuration software that is written for that desktop that
 makes CUPS configuration a snap.  (and installing foomatic
 drivers and the like)
 
 If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
 understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
 paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
 command line junkie.

Sorry, I hate to differ, but even on my Mac OSX with dual PPC processors, I
use lpr all the time, and I use ssh (hostname) lpr filetoprint from
FreeBSD to my mac, it works just fine, and the Mac is running Cups.  It
does too do stuff for command line people, it's just that no one installing
cups on FreeBSD has done anything to get that definitely established part
of Cups working right.

 
 Ted

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-14 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Pollywog wrote:

On Wednesday 12 March 2008 19:37:47 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  

Chuck Robey wrote:


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David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 


12:59:38PM -0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:
  

Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


Yes.
  

You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried
HP officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work
with cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well,
but either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

  

Thank you very much for your answer.
 All the best, Gligor Lucian.



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I have cups working on my system, printing on locally attached USB
printers. I have followed the instructions in dekstopBSD wiki:

http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing

(though I used ports and not packages)



Did you find it necessary to recompile the kernel with ulpt disabled?

I have a HP PSC2110 All-In-One 
To get HP PSC2110 just working you can use HPIJS driver and you do not 
need to recompile the kernel.
However if you want to use HPLIP to unlock full functionality (scanner 
and FAX, PC-copping) you will have to recompile the driver to
disable ulpt driver since it is unable to get the vendor name and 
product ID. That is well-documented.
You will probably also need to disable umass driver since it gets 
attached to printer before the ugen driver.
In all honestly that is not well-documented. You will also need to start 
HPLIP daemons before the CUPS daemon.

That is all well-documented.

#enable CUPS and related
lpd_enable=NO
hpiod_enable=YES #daemons for HPLIP HP printing
hpssd_enable=YES #daemons for HPLIP HP printing
cupsd_enable=YES

umess driver is needed for Floppy and Flash drives so you might want to 
load manually after the boot and

after you unlock your printer.
Cheers,
Predrag
that I can use in Linux (printing and 
scanning) but was unable to get working in FreeBSD.  I believe part of the 
solution is to disable ulpt and recompile the kernel, but I had trouble 
getting hplip to work.  FreeBSD does not have hpoj, which is what I use in 
Linux with this printer.

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-13 Thread Chuck Robey
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Predrag Punosevac wrote:
 Chuck Robey wrote:
 Gligor Lucian wrote:
  
 David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at
 12:59:38PM -0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:

 Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?
 
 Yes.
   
 
 You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
 can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
 FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
 systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also
 tried HP
 officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
 cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
 either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
 nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.
 
 Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
 about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.
 
   
 Please do not spread disinformation. Of course CUPS works on FreeBSD as
 well as thee other spooling systems
 PDQ, LPD, and LPRng.

Well, YOU might note that I _did_ say that others did work (I even gave an
example, apsfilter, that worked) and I specified that cups itself worked,
just that the job of installing drivers in cups for FreeBSD seemed
undocumented.  Someone since then found for me a wiki (non-FreeBSD- you
note) that gives more help, but it seems that no helkp is forthcoming from
FreeBSD itself.  I specified in the email that non-local printers, which
only use default ps drivers worked fine also, it was only when you tried to
install locally based printers, which  need local drivers, that you end up
in trouble.

If you're going to criticize, at least try to read the post first.

Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others
sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to agree with
hier(7).  I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining
if it hadn't,  but then there should have been some small notes detailing
how to install a local driver.  As a general rule in FreeBDS ports, there
is (on most ports that have more than 1 version) insufficient care given to
detailing the differences in ports, when there are more than one version to
choose from.  Example?  the cups and the cups-base port have the same
pkg-descr, so how is anyone to know what the difference is, and under whjat
circumstances should one port be chosen over another.

Don't answer that question, answer why no care is ever given to correct the
woeful state of most multi-option pkg-descr files.

 Cheers,
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 Thank you very much for your answer.
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-13 Thread Pollywog
On Wednesday 12 March 2008 19:37:47 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 Chuck Robey wrote:
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  Gligor Lucian wrote:
  David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 
12:59:38PM -0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:
  Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?
 
  Yes.
 
  You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
  can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
  FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
  systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried
  HP officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work
  with cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well,
  but either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
  nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.
 
  Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
  about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.
 
  Thank you very much for your answer.
   All the best, Gligor Lucian.
 
 
 
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 I have cups working on my system, printing on locally attached USB
 printers. I have followed the instructions in dekstopBSD wiki:

 http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing

 (though I used ports and not packages)

Did you find it necessary to recompile the kernel with ulpt disabled?

I have a HP PSC2110 All-In-One that I can use in Linux (printing and 
scanning) but was unable to get working in FreeBSD.  I believe part of the 
solution is to disable ulpt and recompile the kernel, but I had trouble 
getting hplip to work.  FreeBSD does not have hpoj, which is what I use in 
Linux with this printer.
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-13 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Pollywog wrote:

On Wednesday 12 March 2008 19:37:47 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  


I have cups working on my system, printing on locally attached USB
printers. I have followed the instructions in dekstopBSD wiki:

http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing

(though I used ports and not packages)



Did you find it necessary to recompile the kernel with ulpt disabled?

I have a HP PSC2110 All-In-One that I can use in Linux (printing and 
scanning) but was unable to get working in FreeBSD.  I believe part of the 
solution is to disable ulpt and recompile the kernel, but I had trouble 
getting hplip to work.  FreeBSD does not have hpoj, which is what I use in 
Linux with this printer.

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No, I haven't touched ulpt support in the kernel.
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Chuck Robey
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Gligor Lucian wrote:
 
 David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM 
 -0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:
 Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?
 
 Yes.
 

You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried HP
officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

 Thank you very much for your answer.
  All the best, Gligor Lucian.
 
 

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Kevin Downey
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  Gligor Lucian wrote:
  
   David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM 
 -0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:
   Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?
  
   Yes.
  

  You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
  can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
  FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
  systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried HP
  officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
  cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
  either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
  nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

  Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
  about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

   Thank you very much for your answer.
All the best, Gligor Lucian.
  
I have CUPS working on my laptop and desktop. I don't have a local
printer installed. I am using CUPS  to access printers shared from a
windows machine. Works fine, except this morning I noticed a pdf not
printing correctly but I believe that is Evince's fault.
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Chuck Robey wrote:

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David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM -0700, 
Gligor Lucian wrote:


Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


Yes.
  


You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried HP
officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

  

Thank you very much for your answer.
 All the best, Gligor Lucian.


   
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I have cups working on my system, printing on locally attached USB printers.
I have followed the instructions in dekstopBSD wiki:

http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing

(though I used ports and not packages)

I still have some issues if I disconnect / reconnect the printer, the 
permissions are not set correctly (although devfs is running).
I might be missing some configuration step, but have not researched 
further yet.

Generally speaking, printing works.

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Chuck Robey
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 David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at
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 Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?
 
 Yes.
   

 You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
 can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
 FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
 systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also
 tried HP
 officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
 cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
 either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
 nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

 Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
 about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

  
 Thank you very much for your answer.
  All the best, Gligor Lucian.


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 I have cups working on my system, printing on locally attached USB
 printers.
 I have followed the instructions in dekstopBSD wiki:
 
 http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing
 
 (though I used ports and not packages)
 
 I still have some issues if I disconnect / reconnect the printer, the
 permissions are not set correctly (although devfs is running).
 I might be missing some configuration step, but have not researched
 further yet.
 Generally speaking, printing works.
 
OK, well, maybe I'm wrong, I'll go take a look.  As to that other
respondent, the job of doing non-local printers needs much more trivial
drivers, so yeah, that always has worked.  I had looked about on Google,
followed a ton of differing instructions, and hadn't had it come near
working yet.  But, I will go take another look at this URL, yes.
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Chuck Robey wrote:

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David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM -0700, 
Gligor Lucian wrote:


Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


Yes.
  


You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on FreeBSD, I
can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get it to work on
FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to one of my other
systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84, but I've also tried HP
officejets, and I just can't get locally attached printers to work with
cups.  I can get them to work with things like apsfilter very well, but
either someone is going to have to fix the Cups port (it builds, but
nothing locally runs) or stop recommending it.

Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to hear
about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no success.

  
Please do not spread disinformation. Of course CUPS works on FreeBSD as 
well as thee other spooling systems

PDQ, LPD, and LPRng.
Cheers,
Predrag





Thank you very much for your answer.
 All the best, Gligor Lucian.


   
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Gerard
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:14:20 -0400
Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on
 FreeBSD, I can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get
 it to work on FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to
 one of my other systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84,
 but I've also tried HP officejets, and I just can't get locally
 attached printers to work with cups.  I can get them to work with
 things like apsfilter very well, but either someone is going to have
 to fix the Cups port (it builds, but nothing locally runs) or stop
 recommending it.
 
 Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to
 hear about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no
 success.

I have HPLIP working with CUPs perfectly. I even got it to FAX. The
printer is accessed via a wireless network too.

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-12 Thread Robert Marella
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:14:20 -0400
Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 You know, while there are printing utils that actually work on
 FreeBSD, I can't personally recommend CUPS.  I keep on trying to get
 it to work on FreeBSD efvery year or so, then I need to go over to
 one of my other systems.  Last one I tried was an Epson Stylus C84,
 but I've also tried HP officejets, and I just can't get locally
 attached printers to work with cups.  I can get them to work with
 things like apsfilter very well, but either someone is going to have
 to fix the Cups port (it builds, but nothing locally runs) or stop
 recommending it.
 
 Or, does anyone else have it working on FreeBSD?  Sure would like to
 hear about it, but I've been trying for a long time now, with no
 success.
 
FWIW I had cups working (2 USB and 1 parellel)  forever on three
separate FreeBSD systems until last fall sometime. It had stopped
working on each of them after an upgrade that I have long since forgot.
After going through all of the removals and reinstalls, I compared what
was installed on these systems with a Linux box that cups worked on.

I found that I needed the /print/foomatic-db
and  /print/foomatic-de-engine ports. After I installed these two ports
cups is working fine on my FreeBSD systems. 

HTH
Robert
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Re: USB printer

2008-03-10 Thread Paul A. Procacci

Gligor Lucian wrote:

Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


   
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Yes, usb printers are attached as normal in FreeBSD.  It's up to you to 
provide the necessary utilities for speaking to it.  CUPS for instance.

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-10 Thread David Duong

Gligor Lucian wrote:

Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?


   
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Should be able to: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-intro-setup.html

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-10 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM -0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:
 Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?

Yes.

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-10 Thread Gligor Lucian


David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:59:38PM 
-0700, Gligor Lucian wrote:
 Does FreeBSD support a USB printer?

Yes.

Thank you very much for your answer.
 All the best, Gligor Lucian.


   
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Re: USB printer and native BSD printing system

2006-03-18 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez wrote:


I have an USB printer at /dev/ulpt0, dmesg say:

ulpt0: Lexmark 730 Series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
ulpt0: using bi-directional mode


I can't find any useful information on that printer online.  Maybe it's 
very old?  Many printers can't understand ASCII data, and it may be one 
of them.



CUPS is not installed and i am trying make printer work with the native
BSD printing system. This is what have my /etc/printcap file:

lp|local printer:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/ulpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

And this is 'ls -l /var/spool/lpd'

-rw-rw-r--  1 root  daemon  37 Mar 14 19:55 lock
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  daemon  25 Mar 14 19:55 status

I don't get printer work. Command 'lp file.txt' don't return any output,
'cat file.txt  /dev/ulpt0' don't return any output. Command
'cat /var/spool/lpd/status' output is:

lp is ready and printing

and this can indicate the configuration is well done. lpd is run...

I am thinking about if the cause of this problem can be the native BSD
printing system can't manage USB printers, so my concrete question to
the list is: Can be used the BSD lpd with USB printers?.


Yes it can.  The problem is most likely that the printer can't print 
plain ASCII data.  Sometimes these printers are called host-based, 
GDI, or Winprinters.  If it is one of those printers, you need to 
find a program that can send the data in a form the printer understands. 
http://www.linuxprinting.org doesn't list the Lexmark 730, but it may 
use the same codes as one of the other Lexmark printers.


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Re: USB Printer setup Help

2005-02-28 Thread Luke Kearney

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:50:22 +1000
Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:

 Could someone direct me to a website where i might be able to setup my new 
 USB 
 Printer so it prints from my BSD box direct plz.
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 Shinjii
 http://www.shinji.nq.nu
google for Linux  printing. You should get a site which has good
coverage of setting up CUPS and LPR. If you go to the Linux printing
site first you may be able to get a complete PPD for the printer which
will help.

HTH

LukeK
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Re: usb printer-scanner

2005-01-25 Thread Khairil Yusof
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 11:14 +0100, Dominique Goncalves wrote:

 I have a PSC 2175 and it's working perfectly with my FreeBSD 5.3
 I use the ports hpoj.
 But the printer/scanner must be detected as ugen device because libusb
 only use ugen device. To do this i have removed ultp and umass device
 from the kernel, after rebuild kernel I can see:
 ugen0: Hewlett-Packard PSC 2170 Series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3
 Now you can use hpoj ;)

Great!.. Thanks for the tip, removing ulpt was enough for me. For the
2110, I can print via hpoj, and sane detects and can communicate with
the scanner.

However I still have problems with scanning. I just get an I/O Error.
Debug shows it's communicating, and the printer status displays
scanning, but nothing comes through. When it cancels it also resets the
scanner which shows it's communicating ok.

Some errors are also showing for me in mpt soon after ptal starting up,
which may be the problem although it doesn't affect printing. I'll
follow it up on the mailing list.

It's good to hear that it's working ok with your PSC 2170.




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Re: usb printer-scanner

2005-01-23 Thread Dominique Goncalves
Hello,

I have a PSC 2175 and it's working perfectly with my FreeBSD 5.3
I use the ports hpoj.
But the printer/scanner must be detected as ugen device because libusb
only use ugen device. To do this i have removed ultp and umass device
from the kernel, after rebuild kernel I can see:
ugen0: Hewlett-Packard PSC 2170 Series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3
Now you can use hpoj ;)

Best regards.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:21:01 +0800, Khairil Yusof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 07:49 +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 21:24 +0300, Andrew Diakin wrote:
 
   Hmm.. I setup all ports as described this
   http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php, also I setup
   print/hpijs port and copy all *.ppd files to /usr/local/share/cups/model
   printer is connected and usbdevs show him -
 
   in cups web admin I setup printer, select device USB Printer #1, then
   when I try to print test page nothing happens... what I do wrong?
 
 Sorry for getting back late on this:
 
 I forgot.. that that if using foomatic you need foomatic filter:
 
 http://www.linuxprinting.org/download.cgi?filename=foomatic-ripshow=0
 
 Copy it to:
 /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/
 
 And set it as executable
 
 chmod 700 foomatic-rip
 
 
 


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Re: usb printer-scanner

2005-01-22 Thread Khairil Yusof
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 07:49 +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 21:24 +0300, Andrew Diakin wrote:
 
  Hmm.. I setup all ports as described this
  http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php, also I setup
  print/hpijs port and copy all *.ppd files to /usr/local/share/cups/model
  printer is connected and usbdevs show him -
 
  in cups web admin I setup printer, select device USB Printer #1, then
  when I try to print test page nothing happens... what I do wrong?

Sorry for getting back late on this:

I forgot.. that that if using foomatic you need foomatic filter:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/download.cgi?filename=foomatic-ripshow=0

Copy it to:
/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/

And set it as executable

chmod 700 foomatic-rip




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Re: usb printer-scanner

2004-12-31 Thread Andrew Diakin
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:47:55 +0300, Andrew Diakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:16:25 +0800, Khairil Yusof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 09:02 +0300, Andrew Diakin wrote:
 
   I have a USB Printer-Scanner HP psc 2110 and I want to use it in my
   freebsd 5.3. I read handbook? but it is too little about usb
   printers... Have anybody do such thing?
 
  Use cups and hpijs:
 
  print/cups
  print/hpijs
 
  grab the ppd from linuxprinting.org and put it
  in /usr/local/share/cups/model
 
  http://freebsddiary.org has an article on setting up cups.
 
  Make sure you plug the printer and turn it on first, before configuring
  it in cups so that the option to select the interface for usb will show
  up.
 
  The scanner part currently does not work on FreeBSD 5.x :( The port for
  that is graphics/hpoj (let us know if you get it working).
 
  The copier function works independently.
 
  Good luck
 
 
 
 
 Hmm.. I setup all ports as described this
 http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php, also I setup
 print/hpijs port and copy all *.ppd files to /usr/local/share/cups/model
 printer is connected and usbdevs show him -
 
 orange# usbdevs
 addr 1: OHCI root hub, nVidia
  addr 2: Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), Microsoft
 addr 1: OHCI root hub, nVidia
 addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA
  addr 2: PSC 2100 Series, Hewlett-Packard
 addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA
  addr 2: USB 2.0 Card Reader, Genesys Logic
 
 in cups web admin I setup printer, select device USB Printer #1, then
 when I try to print test page nothing happens... what I do wrong?

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Re: usb printer-scanner

2004-12-31 Thread Andrew Diakin
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From: Andrew Diakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:47:55 +0300
Subject: Re: usb printer-scanner
To: Khairil Yusof [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:16:25 +0800, Khairil Yusof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 09:02 +0300, Andrew Diakin wrote:

  I have a USB Printer-Scanner HP psc 2110 and I want to use it in my
  freebsd 5.3. I read handbook? but it is too little about usb
  printers... Have anybody do such thing?

 Use cups and hpijs:

 print/cups
 print/hpijs

 grab the ppd from linuxprinting.org and put it
 in /usr/local/share/cups/model

 http://freebsddiary.org has an article on setting up cups.

 Make sure you plug the printer and turn it on first, before configuring
 it in cups so that the option to select the interface for usb will show
 up.

 The scanner part currently does not work on FreeBSD 5.x :( The port for
 that is graphics/hpoj (let us know if you get it working).

 The copier function works independently.

 Good luck




Hmm.. I setup all ports as described this
http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php, also I setup
print/hpijs port and copy all *.ppd files to /usr/local/share/cups/model
printer is connected and usbdevs show him -

orange# usbdevs
addr 1: OHCI root hub, nVidia
 addr 2: Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), Microsoft
addr 1: OHCI root hub, nVidia
addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA
 addr 2: PSC 2100 Series, Hewlett-Packard
addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA
 addr 2: USB 2.0 Card Reader, Genesys Logic

in cups web admin I setup printer, select device USB Printer #1, then
when I try to print test page nothing happens... what I do wrong?
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Re: usb printer-scanner

2004-12-30 Thread Khairil Yusof
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 09:02 +0300, Andrew Diakin wrote:

 I have a USB Printer-Scanner HP psc 2110 and I want to use it in my
 freebsd 5.3. I read handbook? but it is too little about usb
 printers... Have anybody do such thing?

Use cups and hpijs:

print/cups
print/hpijs

grab the ppd from linuxprinting.org and put it
in /usr/local/share/cups/model

http://freebsddiary.org has an article on setting up cups.

Make sure you plug the printer and turn it on first, before configuring
it in cups so that the option to select the interface for usb will show
up.

The scanner part currently does not work on FreeBSD 5.x :( The port for
that is graphics/hpoj (let us know if you get it working).

The copier function works independently.

Good luck


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Re: USB printer setup

2004-03-02 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Gareth Bailey wrote:

 Ok. I read through the handbook pages on printing and it doesn't have
 too much on usb printers. Can anyone suggest where i might start with
 setting up my USB Samsung laser printer? (My system loads it on ulpt0
 so kernel is fine!)

[Please wrap your lines at 72 columns, thanks.]

It's the same as a parallel port printer setup, just use /dev/ulpt0
instead of /dev/lpt0 in the printcap definition.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: USB printer?

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Nielsen
On Sunday 10 August 2003 18:32, Derrick Ryalls wrote:
  Hi (again)
 
  I recently bought a brother 5050 laser (postscript level 3).
  Connected it via
  usb, configured cups to use it. And it worked like a charm.
  However, now I
  discover that It doesnt work unless the printer is powered on (not in
  standby) when the computer boots. If I power it on
  afterwards, the printer is
  detected:
 
  zits root # dmesg | grep ulpt
  ulpt0: Brother HL-5050, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1
  ulpt0: using bi-directional mode
  zits root #
 
  And when I turn off the printer also:
  zits root # dmesg | grep ulpt
  snip
  ulpt0: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected
  ulpt0: detached
  zits root #
 
  But when I try to print, the job shows up on the cups webpage
  as processing.
  And nothing happens!
  I get a process:
  zits root # ps aux | grep usb
  snip
  root   1033  0.0  0.2  2616 1168  ??  S 3:22PM   0:00.00
  usb:/dev/ulpt0 24
  Test Page 1 (usb)
  zits root #
 
  But it never finishes. What could I do to make it work
  proberly? If the printer enters standby after boot, then it
  also doesn't print, with the
  same symptoms.

 Have you tried restarting cups after the printer is detected?


Yes I have, to no avail. It seems to be a USB hotplugging issue of some kind. 
On a side note; It works perfectly in winXP...

/Daniel

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RE: USB printer?

2003-08-10 Thread Derrick Ryalls
 Hi (again)
 
 I recently bought a brother 5050 laser (postscript level 3). 
 Connected it via 
 usb, configured cups to use it. And it worked like a charm. 
 However, now I 
 discover that It doesnt work unless the printer is powered on (not in 
 standby) when the computer boots. If I power it on 
 afterwards, the printer is 
 detected:
 
 zits root # dmesg | grep ulpt
 ulpt0: Brother HL-5050, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1
 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode
 zits root #
 
 And when I turn off the printer also:
 zits root # dmesg | grep ulpt
 snip
 ulpt0: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected
 ulpt0: detached
 zits root #
 
 But when I try to print, the job shows up on the cups webpage 
 as processing. 
 And nothing happens!
 I get a process:
 zits root # ps aux | grep usb
 snip
 root   1033  0.0  0.2  2616 1168  ??  S 3:22PM   0:00.00 
 usb:/dev/ulpt0 24 
 Test Page 1 (usb)
 zits root #
 
 But it never finishes. What could I do to make it work 
 proberly? If the printer enters standby after boot, then it 
 also doesn't print, with the 
 same symptoms.
 

Have you tried restarting cups after the printer is detected?


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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-05 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hi,

I found the proper documentation at 
http://www.linuxprinting.org/download/printing/hpijs/hpijs_readme.html.

But when I tried to test it, I got an error message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # enscript -p /etc/motd | gs -q -dNOPAUSE 
-sOutputFile=- -sDEVICE=ijs -sljsServer=hpijs -dljsUseOutputFD 
-sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD -sDeviceModel=DESKJET 656C 
-sljsParams=Quality:Quality=1,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=0,Quality:FullBleed=0,Quality:MediaPosition=7
 
 /dev/ultp0
GNU Ghostscript 7.05: ijs server not specified
^C

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-05 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Konrad Scorciapino [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 I found the proper documentation at 
 http://www.linuxprinting.org/download/printing/hpijs/hpijs_readme.html.
 
 But when I tried to test it, I got an error message:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # enscript -p /etc/motd | gs -q -dNOPAUSE 
 -sOutputFile=- -sDEVICE=ijs -sljsServer=hpijs -dljsUseOutputFD 
Are these right ^ ^

Do you really specify l and not i for the server and UseOutputFD?

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-05 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hmm... I see...

Ok, its fixed and I got no more error messages... Still, the program has 
locked... Here is the output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # enscript -p /etc/motd | gs -q -dNOPAUSE 
-sOutputFile=- -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -dIjsUseOutputFD 
-sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD -sDeviceModel=DESKJET 656C 
-sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=1,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=0,Quality:FullBleed=0,PS:MediaPosition=7
 
 /dev/ultp0
^C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad #


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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-05 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Konrad Scorciapino wrote:

 Ok, its fixed and I got no more error messages... Still, the program has
 locked... Here is the output:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # enscript -p /etc/motd | gs -q -dNOPAUSE
   
You are telling enscript to write output to /etc/motd.  Check and see if
/etc/motd has been overwritten.  After that, use -p- to have enscript
output to stdout: enscript -p- /etc/motd | gs ...

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-05 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hi,

 You are telling enscript to write output to /etc/motd.  Check and see if
 /etc/motd has been overwritten.  

Yes, after that, /etc/motd got blank


 After that, use -p- to have enscript
 output to stdout: enscript -p- /etc/motd | gs ...

After that, I got the following message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # enscript -p- /etc/motd | gs -q -dNOPAUSE 
-sOutputFile=- -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -dIjsUseOutputFD 
-sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD -sDeviceModel=DESKJET 656C 
-sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=1,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=0,Quality:FullBleed=0,PS:MediaPosition=7
 
 /dev/ultp0
[ 1 pages * 1 copy ] left in -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad #

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Re: Re: USB Printer

2003-04-03 Thread Joshua Lokken
* Konrad Scorciapino ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
== Hi,
== 
==  Whichever one you want. They should all work. you probably don't need
==  the x11 port, so one of the two -nox11 versions. One is licensed with
==  GNU, one with an open source license that permits commercial reuse if
==  you pay a licensing fee.
== 
== Ok, I've installed both ghostscript and magicfilter. How should I proceed now?

To be honest, apsfilter works _great_ for me.

/usr/ports/print/apsfilter

if you don't want to wrestle with the printcap on your own.

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-03 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Konrad Scorciapino [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
  Install enscript so you can generate postscript files. Then read the
  ijs documentation to figure out what flags to feed it to make produce
  output for your printer. You can test this by doing something like:
 Where can I find its documentation? I tried `man ijs` and `man -k ijs`, but 
 got nothing.

I'm not sure. Try pkg_info -L  ghostscript\* to get a list of files,
and look for a README or something on it. Alternatively, try googling
for ijs documentation.

Also, please leave freebsd-questions on the mail. Someone out there
may have just found the ijs documentation, and would be able to tell
you where it is.

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-02 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Konrad Scorciapino [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
  Whichever one you want. They should all work. you probably don't need
  the x11 port, so one of the two -nox11 versions. One is licensed with
  GNU, one with an open source license that permits commercial reuse if
  you pay a licensing fee.
 Ok, I've installed both ghostscript and magicfilter. How should I proceed now?

Install enscript so you can generate postscript files. Then read the
ijs documentation to figure out what flags to feed it to make produce
output for your printer. You can test this by doing something like:

enscript -p - /etc/motd | gs -q -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- [ijs options]  /dev/ulpt0

If things are done right, you should get a copy of /etc/motd on the
printer. After that, you need to set up a filter file and printcap.

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-01 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hi,

 What did you try sending to /dev/ulpt0 that caused things to lock up?

Anything I tried caused the system to lock up. Here are some examples

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # lptest  /dev/ulpt0
^C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # ls  /dev/ulpt0
^C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # cat /etc/cvsupfile  /dev/ulpt0
^C

  And how do I know whether my printer is a winprinter or not?

 The standard way is by sending it flat ascii text, and seeing if it
 prints that. If it prints the text you sent, it's not a winprinter. If
 it does nothing, or prints gibberish, it's probably a winprinter.

So it means that my printer is a winprinter?


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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-01 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Konrad Scorciapino [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
  What did you try sending to /dev/ulpt0 that caused things to lock up?
 Anything I tried caused the system to lock up. Here are some examples
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # lptest  /dev/ulpt0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # ls  /dev/ulpt0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/konrad # cat /etc/cvsupfile  /dev/ulpt0

   And how do I know whether my printer is a winprinter or not?
  The standard way is by sending it flat ascii text, and seeing if it
  prints that. If it prints the text you sent, it's not a winprinter. If
  it does nothing, or prints gibberish, it's probably a winprinter.
 So it means that my printer is a winprinter?

Ok, I misinterpreted system locked up to mean your FreeBSD system
froze. From the looks of things, that's not the case - the sending
program just locks up.

It's probably a winprinter. You can use those on FreeBSD if there's a
driver for it for ghostscript. The ijs driver should support the
656C. From there, you can either install apsfilter - which will
install an a2ps port to print ascii, or install magicfilter and then
use your favorite ascii to postscript printing tool to print straight
text. I prefer enscript for that. Either one will detect various
graphics formats and automatically translate them to postscript to be
printed via ghostscript.

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-01 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Konrad Scorciapino [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
  It's probably a winprinter. You can use those on FreeBSD if there's a
  driver for it for ghostscript. The ijs driver should support the
  656C. 
 
 There are 5 ghostscriptlike ports in /usr/ports/print:
 ghostscript-afpl-nox11, ghostscript-gnu-commfont, ghostscript-gnu, 
 ghostscript-afpl and ghostscript-gnu-nox11.

Whichever one you want. They should all work. you probably don't need
the x11 port, so one of the two -nox11 versions. One is licensed with
GNU, one with an open source license that permits commercial reuse if
you pay a licensing fee.

How did this -questions get dropped from this? I've put it back.

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Re: USB Printer

2003-04-01 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
Hi,

 Whichever one you want. They should all work. you probably don't need
 the x11 port, so one of the two -nox11 versions. One is licensed with
 GNU, one with an open source license that permits commercial reuse if
 you pay a licensing fee.

Ok, I've installed both ghostscript and magicfilter. How should I proceed now?

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Re: USB Printer

2003-03-31 Thread Konrad Scorciapino
  How can I configure a USB Printer on FreeBSD? Actually I have a Deskjet 
656c 
  from HP and I've tried to send something to /dev/ulpt0, but the system 
simply 
  locked up.

 if ulpt0 is showing up in dmesg, then you have the printer
 configured. What to do next depends on what you want to do with the
 printer - and whether or not the deskjet is a winprinter.

ulpt0 is showing and it detects my printer type. Here is the output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  dmesg | grep ulpt0
ulpt0: HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 656C, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 2, iclass 7/1

I want to be able to print all popular kinds of files. How can I proceed? 
And how do I know whether my printer is a winprinter or not?

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Re: USB Printer

2003-03-31 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Konrad Scorciapino [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
   How can I configure a USB Printer on FreeBSD? Actually I have a Deskjet 
 656c 
   from HP and I've tried to send something to /dev/ulpt0, but the system 
 simply 
   locked up.
  if ulpt0 is showing up in dmesg, then you have the printer
  configured. What to do next depends on what you want to do with the
  printer - and whether or not the deskjet is a winprinter.
 ulpt0 is showing and it detects my printer type. Here is the output:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  dmesg | grep ulpt0
 ulpt0: HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 656C, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 2, iclass 7/1

What did you try sending to /dev/ulpt0 that caused things to lock up?

 I want to be able to print all popular kinds of files. How can I proceed? 

You need to install a printer filter program. The most popular one is
apsfilter, because it handles all the details of the setup. The
downside is that it's a honking big shell script that treats all
printers as if they were winprinters. I prefer magicfilter, which is a
C program that interprets filter files to control things, and will
handle flat ascii or even PCL reasonably. The downside of it is that
you have to set up your printcap and the filter file by hand. I'll be
glad to help you with that if you want to go that way.

Both magicfilter and apsfilter are available as ports.

 And how do I know whether my printer is a winprinter or not?

The standard way is by sending it flat ascii text, and seeing if it
prints that. If it prints the text you sent, it's not a winprinter. If
it does nothing, or prints gibberish, it's probably a winprinter.

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Re: USB Printer

2003-03-30 Thread Mike Meyer
In 200303301644.13393.Konrad Scorciapino , Konrad Scorciapino  typed:
 How can I configure a USB Printer on FreeBSD? Actually I have a Deskjet 656c 
 from HP and I've tried to send something to /dev/ulpt0, but the system simply 
 locked up.

if ulpt0 is showing up in dmesg, then you have the printer
configured. What to do next depends on what you want to do with the
printer - and whether or not the deskjet is a winprinter.

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Re: USB Printer setup

2003-01-25 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remington L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 FreeBSD bathory.aria 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #1: Thu Jan 
 23 11:12:16 PST 2003 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TheGateV1  i386
 
 For the past few days ive been attempting to set up my printer and i've 
 had no luck. I have a HP Deskjet 3420, ulpt0: hp deskjet 3420, rev 
 2.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1. This morning i set up my /etc/printcap 
 like this:

Is the quoted string from dmesg? If not, what are you getting from
dmesg for ulpt0?

 # HP Deskjet 3420
 lp|lj|HP Deskjet 3420:\
 :lp=/dev/ulpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
 :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:sh:mx#0:\
 :if=/usr/local/libexec/lpfilter:\
 
 I also edited my /etc/rc.conf to
 lpd_enable=YES
 
 And then i rebooted and tried to print something: cat /etc/rc.conf  
 /dev/ulpt0
 And nothing printed. Any suggestions on what i'm doing wrong?

Two possibilities here. When this happened to me, the USB device
shared an IRQ with another device. Changing that solved the problem.

The other is that the printer is a Winprinter, meaning that it can't
print simple ascii text, but has to be fed a rendered image of the
page. if ghostscript has a driver for the printer, you might try
something like:

enscript -o - /etc/rc.conf | gs -sOutputFile=/dev/ulpt0 -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=...

with ... replaced by the appropriate device driver and any
driver-specific flags you may want to use.

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Re: USB Printer setup

2003-01-25 Thread Chris Howells
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Hi,

On Saturday 25 January 2003 20:12, Remington L. wrote:
 FreeBSD bathory.aria 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #1: Thu Jan
 23 11:12:16 PST 2003
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TheGateV1  i386

snip

 And then i rebooted and tried to print something: cat /etc/rc.conf 
 /dev/ulpt0
 And nothing printed. Any suggestions on what i'm doing wrong?

I'm not entirely sure, but I have a feeling that you have to use the hpijs 
drivers for this model. I have a 3820 which works great using hpijs, though 
despite the similair name, IIRC the 3420 has completely different hardware in 
it.

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Re: USB Printer setup

2003-01-25 Thread Gerard Samuel
I have a doc how I setup my HP USB printer at 
http://www.freebsddiary.org/cups.php
Give that a read and see how you do...

Remington L. wrote:

FreeBSD bathory.aria 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #1: Thu Jan 
23 11:12:16 PST 2003 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TheGateV1  i386

For the past few days ive been attempting to set up my printer and 
i've had no luck. I have a HP Deskjet 3420, ulpt0: hp deskjet 3420, 
rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1. This morning i set up my 
/etc/printcap like this:

# HP Deskjet 3420
lp|lj|HP Deskjet 3420:\
   :lp=/dev/ulpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
   :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:sh:mx#0:\
   :if=/usr/local/libexec/lpfilter:\

I also edited my /etc/rc.conf to
lpd_enable=YES

And then i rebooted and tried to print something: cat /etc/rc.conf  
/dev/ulpt0
And nothing printed. Any suggestions on what i'm doing wrong?


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Re: USB Printer Problem

2002-11-04 Thread nyingelay
On Monday 28 October 2002 04:22 am, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:44:54AM -0800, nyingelay wrote:
  ***
  Printer:Epson Stylus C40UX (usb)
  OS: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE
  ***
  It is the only printer attached to my computer via usb.
 
  When I tried to lpr filename, the printer responded to it for awhile by
  moving its cartridge holder, but nothing got actually printed.  That was
  after I rebooted the PC.  For the second time when I tried to lpr
  filename, there were no responses from the printer at all.  After each
  reboots, the printer acknowledges the commands for once only, and just
  sits there idle.

 I had *exactly* the same problem, but with an Epson 740U. So I tried
 printing under Windows and it would only print in black and only legibly
 at the highest quality .. I cleaned the heads etc, and the status
 monitor said there was plenty of ink. So, more out of a guess than
 anything else I replaced the ink cartridges -- and lo and behold it
 worked just fine on all O/S'es. What that implies I don't know, although
 obviously the colour cartridge was blocked beyond repair. I don't use
 the printer much, so... maybe the cheapo cartridges I use had got fed
 up. You only have to replace the catridges twice with real Epson ones
 and it is about the same cost as a new printer (here in Holland anyway !)

 Did it ever work under other releases ? The fact that it is recognised
 means it is in the file of signatures for USB devices, that does not
 always mean it will work.

 I am sending this, not saying this is your problem, but the symptoms are
 so similar I thought I would pass it on.

Thanks for the reply.  I've already tested with Windows, and the printer is 
just fine.  It's only happenning on the BSD.  Any more ideas please?...


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Re: USB Printer Problem

2002-10-28 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:44:54AM -0800, nyingelay wrote:
 ***
 Printer:  Epson Stylus C40UX (usb)
 OS:   FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE
 ***
 It is the only printer attached to my computer via usb.
 
 When I tried to lpr filename, the printer responded to it for awhile by 
 moving its cartridge holder, but nothing got actually printed.  That was 
 after I rebooted the PC.  For the second time when I tried to lpr filename, 
 there were no responses from the printer at all.  After each reboots, the 
 printer acknowledges the commands for once only, and just sits there idle.
 
I had *exactly* the same problem, but with an Epson 740U. So I tried
printing under Windows and it would only print in black and only legibly
at the highest quality .. I cleaned the heads etc, and the status
monitor said there was plenty of ink. So, more out of a guess than
anything else I replaced the ink cartridges -- and lo and behold it
worked just fine on all O/S'es. What that implies I don't know, although
obviously the colour cartridge was blocked beyond repair. I don't use
the printer much, so... maybe the cheapo cartridges I use had got fed
up. You only have to replace the catridges twice with real Epson ones
and it is about the same cost as a new printer (here in Holland anyway !)

Did it ever work under other releases ? The fact that it is recognised
means it is in the file of signatures for USB devices, that does not
always mean it will work.

I am sending this, not saying this is your problem, but the symptoms are
so similar I thought I would pass it on.
 
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