RE: what is going on??

2006-03-25 Thread Jonathan Horne
[quote]
...that there are still quite a few 'broken' DNS servers out there.
'Broken' with respect to servicing IPv6 requests.
[/quote]

Actually, when you mention it that way, that makes pretty good sense as to
what my situation then was.  The server I was specifying was a *very* old
metaip 4.1 DNS server, and its quite possible it was answering the ipv6
queries with a simple "u".

However, im fairly certain that the hangup was not with SSH (SSH just
happened to be the lat daemon successfully started, thus the last thing
printed to the screen), but sendmail. The maillog had a few lines saying
unable to get ipv6 name, or something like that.

Cheers,
jonathan


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Re: what is going on??

2006-03-25 Thread Eric Schuele

Garrett Cooper wrote:

Jonathan Horne wrote:


Thanks for the replies everyone.

It turned out to be partially ipv6, partially the ipfw on my pfsense
firewall.  Ultimately, the hangup was in sendmail, unable to start.  Ipv6
messages in the logevel 20 maillogs.

However, during all my troubles, I was always able to resolve
ftp.freebsd.org (I don't think I mentioned that before), as well as I 
could

ping it and any number of other hosts as I scratched my head for 3 hours.

Ultimately, I ended up compiling a new kernel anyway to enable SMP, and I
just removed the ipv6 support while I was there.  That and disabling the
userlan ftp-proxy application on my firewall, I was up and running this
morning within a few hours of compiling.

So long fedora!

:D

jonathan

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To: Jonathan Horne
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Subject: Re: what is going on??

Jonathan Horne wrote:
 

last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  
ive
done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for 
this
event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my 
services

down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.

however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:

starting sshd.

and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is
  

having
 

trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of 
the

/etc/hosts file is correct.

now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
ftp.freebsd.org times out.

im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal
  

email
 


accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).

can someone shed some light for me here??
  


My .02 cents:
Double check your name resolution functionality.  Also, seems I had 
trouble once upon a time with IPV6 causing similar issues as well.  
But that was quite some time ago.


 


thanks
jonathan
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Could have just turned the firewall off I would think in /etc/rc.conf. 
Don't see why recompiling a kernel without ipv6 support was necessary as 
that shouldn't have been preventing network connections at all.


FWIW...
I had trouble with name resolution when IPv6 was enabled, long time 
back.  It was explained to me (by Kris I think) that there are still 
quite a few 'broken' DNS servers out there.  'Broken' with respect to 
servicing IPv6 requests.  So your name resolver would seem to get hung 
up till it timed out (when you had IPv6 built in).  So the solution for 
me at the time, was simply remove it from my kernel config file.  I've 
done so ever since, as I do not *need* IPv6.  It wasn't 'preventing 
network connections'... it was causing sshd to hang while trying to 
resolve something.


HTH

Good luck with FreeBSD :).
-Garrett
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Re: what is going on??

2006-03-24 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jonathan Horne wrote:


Thanks for the replies everyone.

It turned out to be partially ipv6, partially the ipfw on my pfsense
firewall.  Ultimately, the hangup was in sendmail, unable to start.  Ipv6
messages in the logevel 20 maillogs.

However, during all my troubles, I was always able to resolve
ftp.freebsd.org (I don't think I mentioned that before), as well as I could
ping it and any number of other hosts as I scratched my head for 3 hours.

Ultimately, I ended up compiling a new kernel anyway to enable SMP, and I
just removed the ipv6 support while I was there.  That and disabling the
userlan ftp-proxy application on my firewall, I was up and running this
morning within a few hours of compiling.

So long fedora!

:D

jonathan

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Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:50 PM
To: Jonathan Horne
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: what is going on??

Jonathan Horne wrote:
 


last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  ive
done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for this
event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my services
down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.

however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:

starting sshd.

and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is
   


having
 


trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of the
/etc/hosts file is correct.

now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
ftp.freebsd.org times out.

im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal
   


email
 


accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).

can someone shed some light for me here??
   



My .02 cents:
Double check your name resolution functionality.  Also, seems I had 
trouble once upon a time with IPV6 causing similar issues as well.  But 
that was quite some time ago.


 


thanks
jonathan
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Could have just turned the firewall off I would think in /etc/rc.conf. 
Don't see why recompiling a kernel without ipv6 support was necessary as 
that shouldn't have been preventing network connections at all.

Good luck with FreeBSD :).
-Garrett
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RE: what is going on??

2006-03-24 Thread Jonathan Horne
Thanks for the replies everyone.

It turned out to be partially ipv6, partially the ipfw on my pfsense
firewall.  Ultimately, the hangup was in sendmail, unable to start.  Ipv6
messages in the logevel 20 maillogs.

However, during all my troubles, I was always able to resolve
ftp.freebsd.org (I don't think I mentioned that before), as well as I could
ping it and any number of other hosts as I scratched my head for 3 hours.

Ultimately, I ended up compiling a new kernel anyway to enable SMP, and I
just removed the ipv6 support while I was there.  That and disabling the
userlan ftp-proxy application on my firewall, I was up and running this
morning within a few hours of compiling.

So long fedora!

:D

jonathan

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To: Jonathan Horne
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: what is going on??

Jonathan Horne wrote:
> last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  ive
> done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for this
> event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my services
> down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.
> 
> however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:
> 
> starting sshd.
> 
> and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is
having
> trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of the
> /etc/hosts file is correct.
> 
> now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
> ftp.freebsd.org times out.
> 
> im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal
email
> accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).
> 
> can someone shed some light for me here??

My .02 cents:
Double check your name resolution functionality.  Also, seems I had 
trouble once upon a time with IPV6 causing similar issues as well.  But 
that was quite some time ago.

> 
> thanks
> jonathan
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Re: what is going on??

2006-03-24 Thread Eric Schuele

Jonathan Horne wrote:

last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  ive
done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for this
event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my services
down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.

however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:

starting sshd.

and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is having
trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of the
/etc/hosts file is correct.

now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
ftp.freebsd.org times out.

im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal email
accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).

can someone shed some light for me here??


My .02 cents:
Double check your name resolution functionality.  Also, seems I had 
trouble once upon a time with IPV6 causing similar issues as well.  But 
that was quite some time ago.




thanks
jonathan
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Re: what is going on??

2006-03-24 Thread Joseph Vella
On Friday 24 March 2006 16:47, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:10:04AM -0600, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> > last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  ive
> > done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for this
> > event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my services
> > down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.
> > 
> > however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:
> > 
> > starting sshd.
> > 
> > and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is 
having
> > trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of the
> > /etc/hosts file is correct.
> > 
> > now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
> > ftp.freebsd.org times out.
> > 
> > im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal 
email
> > accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).
> > 
> > can someone shed some light for me here??
> 
> Your DNS server is not, in fact, working.
> 
> Kris
> 

FWIW,  I had a similar problem not too long ago.  Turned out I had a typo in 
my dns server address.  Lot of trouble, easy fix.



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Re: what is going on??

2006-03-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:10:04AM -0600, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  ive
> done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for this
> event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my services
> down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.
> 
> however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:
> 
> starting sshd.
> 
> and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is having
> trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of the
> /etc/hosts file is correct.
> 
> now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
> ftp.freebsd.org times out.
> 
> im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal email
> accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).
> 
> can someone shed some light for me here??

Your DNS server is not, in fact, working.

Kris


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Re: what is going on??

2006-03-24 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jonathan Horne wrote:


last night i took down my fedora sever to migrate it to freebsd 6.0.  ive
done numerous tests on dev boxes in the past weeks getting ready for this
event, and they were all successful test installs.  i had all my services
down and i knew what i was supposed to be doing.

however, when i get to first boot, the machine says:

starting sshd.

and hangs for a few minutes.  if i hit ctrl-c i see that sendmail is having
trouble starting.  i have a good DNS server listed, and the format of the
/etc/hosts file is correct.

now im having trouble getting pkg_add -r to work, everything to
ftp.freebsd.org times out.

im in a bad situation, as the server i took down hosts all my personal email
accoutns (i had to add gmail just to even try to read the lsits).

can someone shed some light for me here??

thanks
jonathan
 

Have you tried pinging a machine in the outside world? It sounds like 
DNS/ARP isn't resolving properly, maybe or the DNS server you use is 
currently not working.
Also, for sshd, do you have the UseDNS option enabled? It seemed to 
affect client side stuff (ie client connecting to a server with UseDNS 
enabled), but maybe it's affecting your server =\...

-Garrett
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