Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:03:14AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >Well I pretty much went this way: > >abrwm (evilwm) (tinywm didn't have vwindows), fbpanel, xv, idesk, >transset-dt, I have not selected a fm yet... For the most part I really >like it (lean and mean) but one feature that several my apps support is >transparent windows but seems abrwm for what ever reason doesn't support >this and will completely ignore any windows with it... so I am looking >for the next smallest wm that can do virtual windows and transparency... I >know openbox, ion, xfwm all can do it but want something even lighter. Hello! i used ion for a while and it was pretty fast/easy to use. I recently tried out wmii and wmii is really nice. It's a bit less featureful (sp?) than ion, but it's smaller and easier to use. It's also very cool that its main (event) loop is a 200 line shell script. I don't know about transparency, but wmii doesn't have virtual windows (?). But it does have a very neat tagging system where each window has (a set of) tags. You can select tags to view and you will only have the windows with that tag on the screen. i like it very much! =) it's also not as strict about the tiling as ion, which is a plus as well in my opinion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Walther wrote: On 23/11/2007, Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: [...] I like to make my own "desktop". Sounds familiar. :-) Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness: Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer & feh +applications you like like. Edit .xsession as follows Well I pretty much went this way: abrwm (evilwm) (tinywm didn't have vwindows), fbpanel, xv, idesk, transset-dt, I have not selected a fm yet... For the most part I really like it (lean and mean) but one feature that several my apps support is transparent windows but seems abrwm for what ever reason doesn't support this and will completely ignore any windows with it... so I am looking for the next smallest wm that can do virtual windows and transparency... I know openbox, ion, xfwm all can do it but want something even lighter. There is a very good review of all available WM http://xwinman.org/ I checked once and I think more or less all of them are ported to FreeBSD. Have you pick. Be happy:-) Cheers Predra - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSC8iJ9+1V27SttsRAjSlAJwKuH5e+KpZDAcs84aRUf5ErR6U9wCgjV5T tg8/85bPgfU31cqWeWdFJiQ= =Wfbh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Walther wrote: > On 23/11/2007, Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > [...] >> I like to make my own "desktop". >> > Sounds familiar. :-) >> Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness: >> >> Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer & feh +applications you like like. >> Edit .xsession as follows >> Well I pretty much went this way: abrwm (evilwm) (tinywm didn't have vwindows), fbpanel, xv, idesk, transset-dt, I have not selected a fm yet... For the most part I really like it (lean and mean) but one feature that several my apps support is transparent windows but seems abrwm for what ever reason doesn't support this and will completely ignore any windows with it... so I am looking for the next smallest wm that can do virtual windows and transparency... I know openbox, ion, xfwm all can do it but want something even lighter. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHSC8iJ9+1V27SttsRAjSlAJwKuH5e+KpZDAcs84aRUf5ErR6U9wCgjV5T tg8/85bPgfU31cqWeWdFJiQ= =Wfbh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:06:54 +1100 Norberto Meijome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for one used to run fwvm2 under linux back in 95, then KDE... but > since then I got a bit tired of the endless new tools for kde or > gnome or this or that.. (eg, KDE front end for mplayer...what's wrong > with mplayer, or gmplayer? I've found kmplayer+konquerer to best way of playing embedded media on websites. It can be switched between a xine and mplayer backends but consistently performs better than either the gxine or mplayer plugins for firefox. And by better, I mean it often works well on sites where I can't see anything on firefox. On the other when I double-click on a movie file, ordinary mplayer comes up - KDE is very configurable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
On 23/11/2007, Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: [...] > I like to make my own "desktop". > Sounds familiar. :-) > > Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness: > > Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer & feh +applications you like like. > Edit .xsession as follows > I prefer ion3 as tiling window manager, no panel, and ROX filer. I use keyboard shortcuts for the applications I really need frequently, and I use ion3s internal launcher for the rest. [...] Generally, there is no such thing as the best desktop. The question is: what desktop/window manger makes you happy? I used Gnome for quite some time, while I never liked KDE that much. Nowaday, after I decided to drop any Desktop for my own configuration, I found KDE applications to be more stable and advanced compared to most GTK2-Apps. As a matter of fact I don't like the desktop paradigma. People should care about getting there tasks done, without having to choose one Desktop Environment because it contains applications that are suitable. So either you just install one Desktop Environment and you stick to it, or you'll end up having all libraries and dependencies installed anyway. What was that audio player called that is currently developed for Gnome the one that aims to be like Amarok? Okay, this is OT for this thread, and I start to rant anyway. Hey, I could continue with crazy library dependencies. But I will stop here. ;-) So take your time, look around. You sometimes find a LiveCD with a Desktop Environment, so you might be able to try them without polluting your system (and dealing with removing all dependencies you don't need anymore). Saves you some build time, too. Regards Christian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
I have used gnome for several years now after finding kde lacking in
features but just tried kde and have to say I like the programs it
comes with (but I find gnome easier to use) I also know there are
other desktops out there (as being defined as a something more then a
high end window manager)... which is best? My work load is that of a
typical business owner and CS grad student/Java developer plus acting
as my TV (don't have one and don't have any kind of reception [too far
in the country {and do not which to have cable}]) via dl'ed shows
I like to make my own "desktop".
Predrag's Recipe for Desktop Happiness:
Take OpenBox3, Xfce4-panel, Rox-filer & feh +applications you like like.
Edit .xsession as follows
feh --bg-scale /path to wall paper image & xfce4-panel & exec openbox
After you have all the applications you like fill in the Openbox menu
using the application
menumaker as follows mmaker openbox.
edit your /etc/ttys as
ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure
Restart your computer
You will be greeted by X desktop manager. When you log into your
.xsession you will have xfce-panel, openbox as WM,
Rox as you file manager and beautiful wallpaper set by feh.
Applications would be cheery picked by you so there is no worry that you
will have any that you do not like it.
You can further customized XDM front page and xterm. I prefer xterm to
any other terminal as it is lightest. I do agree that is somewhat
tricky to customize for a noob.
Above desktop is about as light and responsive as it gets. If you want
even lighter forget about xfce4-panel.
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Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> I have used gnome for several years now after finding kde lacking in
> features but just tried kde and have to say I like the programs it
> comes with (but I find gnome easier to use) I also know there are
> other desktops out there (as being defined as a something more then a
> high end window manager)... which is best? My work load is that of a
> typical business owner and CS grad student/Java developer plus acting
> as my TV (don't have one and don't have any kind of reception [too far
> in the country {and do not which to have cable}]) via dl'ed shows
>
>
Although i am a Gentoo Linux user in terms of my desktop system I've
found XFCE4 to be very nice, it is very lightweight and and fairly
customizable. It comes with a few basic applications such as an gui
archiving tool and text pad(called mousepad), and some other basic
things, however it is not as involved in terms of included applications
as either Gnome or KDE. It is build around the gtk toolkit and so most
Gnome applications fit into place perfectly, however it is more a matter
of picking and choosing the applications that you prefer rather than
using the ones that come standard with the DE.
Dylan
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Re: (off topic?) Best desktop
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:42:40 +
"Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have used gnome for several years now after finding kde lacking in
> features but just tried kde and have to say I like the programs it
> comes with (but I find gnome easier to use) I also know there are
> other desktops out there (as being defined as a something more then a
> high end window manager)... which is best?
[...]
Hi Aryeh,
i think you will get so many answers about this question... :D
I for one used to run fwvm2 under linux back in 95, then KDE... but since then
I got a bit tired of the endless new tools for kde or gnome or this or that..
(eg, KDE front end for mplayer...what's wrong with mplayer, or gmplayer? )
anyway...
I've been using XFCE4 for a while. it's GTK-2 based, so most gnome apps work
out the box without installing the whole shebbang. And then, i just install the
apps that are useful to me, not what the KDE team decided to bundle in. (yes,
there are segregated by packages...but i just feel like back in Windows...all
that stuff you know you won't ever use...
(for that matter, i barely install XFCE own tools... rxvt is far more stable
than Terminal, beep / xmms / gmplayer / xine work better than xfce's media
player)..
What I did for a while is have all the desktops installed and use them under
different users, to see how they compared. KDE / Gnome felt quite sluggish
compared to XFCE. this may not be a problem for you, though.
good luck,
B
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