Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
> > Where do such articles go for FreeBSD? ... I can make > > a website on my server for it, but it seems to be a > > kind of overkill, for just such installing sequence.. > > If you have things working for Flash 9, enough people > /will/ be interested this is not overkill. > My suggestion: > 1) create a web page; present the steps (with commentary > is appropriate) in an easily readable format; _date the page_. > 2) post the URL to questions@, ports@, and possibly www@ and > multimedia@ in separate posts. Make the subject line something > relevant - this is not about "Adobe Flash Player Petition". and/or send a PR, including the content (not just the URL), to have it added to the Handbook or the FAQ. That way, even if the website goes away before a doc committer gets to it, it's archived in the PR database. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
herbert langhans writes: > Da Rock, > of course. But I have no idea where to leave the howto. Where do > such articles go for FreeBSD? I just found the official doku on > the freebsd.org page, also some articles there. Though I can make > a website on my server for it, but it seems to be a kind of > overkill, for just such installing sequence.. If you have things working for Flash 9, enough people /will/ be interested this is not overkill. My suggestion: 1) create a web page; present the steps (with commentary is appropriate) in an easily readable format; _date the page_. 2) post the URL to questions@, ports@, and possibly www@ and multimedia@ in separate posts. Make the subject line something relevant - this is not about "Adobe Flash Player Petition". Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Da Rock, of course. But I have no idea where to leave the howto. Where do such articles go for FreeBSD? I just found the official doku on the freebsd.org page, also some articles there. Though I can make a website on my server for it, but it seems to be a kind of overkill, for just such installing sequence.. Any hints? herbs >Flashplayer on FreeBSD and Firefox >Good to know. I was going to have a crack at it again once I got the >chance... Can you whip up a how-to for a newbie so we can direct them to >there in the future? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Yes, but like any other crap they put out I'm sure we'll find a way around it... :) most people need crap. Microsoft gives them what they want ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 20:15 -0400, Eduardo Cerejo wrote: > > There's already a MacOS version available: > > > > http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/ > > That's what I said > > > and support for linux as well: > > > > http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight > > It looks like gnash for silverlight, it will always be a step behind like > gnash. Actually the politics of mono suggest that M$ is behind it anyway, so maybe not... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
> There's already a MacOS version available: > > http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/ That's what I said > and support for linux as well: > > http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight It looks like gnash for silverlight, it will always be a step behind like gnash. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:01 -0400, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > Da Rock wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > > >> Hi Volodymyr, > > >> I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem > to play recent Flash pages. > > >> I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able > to enter some websites.. > > > > > > I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business > > > might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... > > > > > > ___ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > > > It's going to be interesting when microsoft's silverlight comes out, it > > is supposed to be superior to flash, if it becomes popular even the > > linux community will have problems because I really doubt that they will > > release a plugin for other OSes other than Mac OS any way. > > > > Yes, but like any other crap they put out I'm sure we'll find a way > around it... :) There's already a MacOS version available: http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/ and support for linux as well: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight Abe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 00:43 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > Thanks to all the input I found a solution what works for me: > > FreeBSD 7.0 and Firefox 3.0a2 (the firefox-devel port) > > 1. I deinstalled swfdec. > 2. Closed Firefox and renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.backup > 3. Started firefox so to generate a new and clean .mozilla > 4. #make install /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper > 5. Downloaded > http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux > --the .tar.gz format. > 6. Extract libflashplayer.so from install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz and > copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins > 7. Then, as normal user: > $nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (to install) > $nspluginwrapper -l (to check if its installed) > 8. Copied the settings, like bookmarks.html and other stuff like themes from > .mozilla.backup to .mozilla (dont copy the whole bunch back not to overwrite > the plugin settings) > 9. My /etc/rc.conf has the entry linux_enable="YES" -- I suppose this is > necessary. > > That way you can enter the wonderful world of annoying advertisment even > without using Windows.. Good to know. I was going to have a crack at it again once I got the chance... Can you whip up a how-to for a newbie so we can direct them to there in the future? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 11:00 -0400, Gerard wrote: > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:15:50 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > PLEASE CONTACT ADOBE. TELL THEM TO RELEASE A FLASH PLUGIN FOR > > > FREEBSD. > > >There are more and more websites you cannot even enter without a > > >running Flash Player. > > > > so don't watch them. their author definitely are not interested in > > providing real information, as it can't go without flash. > > > > while there is a lot of pages that are unreadable without flash, non > > of them contain useful informations. > > I find that assumption grossly inaccurate. I have experienced > difficulties numerous times trying to access financial institutions > without a working flash plug-in. I just had another bad experience with > a linksys site using Opera: > > http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1175238286492&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=8649286492H30&displaypage=download > > The lack of an easy to install and maintain flash program is one of the > main reasons I maintain a WinXP machine. Not the only reason perhaps, > but nevertheless an important one. Pity you would think that you have to corrupt your network with this machine! At least you could use linux... > > > > If many of the BSD community ask for it, they probably will > > >release a BSD Version.. > > > > they should do it alone, not be asked for it. they know that FreeBSD > > exist, and they know that it's just matter of recompiling. But they > > don't release FreeBSD version. so they don't willingly. > > > > They are not idiots, and they already calculated well if providing > > FreeBSD version will be good for them of not. > > > > > > don't be anyone's slave and simply don't use this crap at all. > > whatever you use freebsd or not > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:01 -0400, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > >> Hi Volodymyr, > >> I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to > >> play recent Flash pages. > >> I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to > >> enter some websites.. > > > > I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business > > might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > It's going to be interesting when microsoft's silverlight comes out, it > is supposed to be superior to flash, if it becomes popular even the > linux community will have problems because I really doubt that they will > release a plugin for other OSes other than Mac OS any way. > Yes, but like any other crap they put out I'm sure we'll find a way around it... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Works here. But I didnt check it on many websites. Just audio is not ok, its mute. herbs > You were able to get version 9 working, I can't even do that on mine, it just > freezes firefox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:43:12 +0200 herbert langhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks to all the input I found a solution what works for me: > > FreeBSD 7.0 and Firefox 3.0a2 (the firefox-devel port) > > 1. I deinstalled swfdec. > 2. Closed Firefox and renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.backup > 3. Started firefox so to generate a new and clean .mozilla > 4. #make install /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper > 5. Downloaded > http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux > --the .tar.gz format. > 6. Extract libflashplayer.so from install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz and > copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins > 7. Then, as normal user: > $nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (to install) > $nspluginwrapper -l (to check if its installed) > 8. Copied the settings, like bookmarks.html and other stuff like themes from > .mozilla.backup to .mozilla (dont copy the whole bunch back not to overwrite > the plugin settings) > 9. My /etc/rc.conf has the entry linux_enable="YES" -- I suppose this is > necessary. > > That way you can enter the wonderful world of annoying advertisment even > without using Windows.. > > Cheers > herbs > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" You were able to get version 9 working, I can't even do that on mine, it just freezes firefox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Thanks to all the input I found a solution what works for me: FreeBSD 7.0 and Firefox 3.0a2 (the firefox-devel port) 1. I deinstalled swfdec. 2. Closed Firefox and renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.backup 3. Started firefox so to generate a new and clean .mozilla 4. #make install /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper 5. Downloaded http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux --the .tar.gz format. 6. Extract libflashplayer.so from install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz and copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins 7. Then, as normal user: $nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (to install) $nspluginwrapper -l (to check if its installed) 8. Copied the settings, like bookmarks.html and other stuff like themes from .mozilla.backup to .mozilla (dont copy the whole bunch back not to overwrite the plugin settings) 9. My /etc/rc.conf has the entry linux_enable="YES" -- I suppose this is necessary. That way you can enter the wonderful world of annoying advertisment even without using Windows.. Cheers herbs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Note that there isn't even a x64 version of the flash player for Linux. I think it also took quite a while before they released the Windows 64-bit version. Can't hurt to try though. -Patrick On 09/04/2008, E. J. Cerejo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > > > > > Hi Volodymyr, > > > I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem > > > to play recent Flash pages. I dont care about the animations, but it is > > > frustrating not being able to enter some websites.. > > > > > > > I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business > > might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > It's going to be interesting when microsoft's silverlight comes out, it is > supposed to be superior to flash, if it becomes popular even the linux > community will have problems because I really doubt that they will release a > plugin for other OSes other than Mac OS any way. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Da Rock wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: Hi Volodymyr, I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to play recent Flash pages. I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to enter some websites.. I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" It's going to be interesting when microsoft's silverlight comes out, it is supposed to be superior to flash, if it becomes popular even the linux community will have problems because I really doubt that they will release a plugin for other OSes other than Mac OS any way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
May be graphics/gnash can help ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
In my computer running FreeBSD 7.0 64bits with gnome 2.22 the linksys site works ok... indeed I can see more than 90% of the flash (that is still 7) using nspluginwrapper. and for those that not work, the wine+firefox solution is used... it all works including youtube, bbc, fox, aol, uol... and also openoffice-3.0 too all in 64 bits and it is very fast. I also use the 7.0 in several notebooks here at the company, and everything works... Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
I find that assumption grossly inaccurate. I have experienced difficulties numerous times trying to access financial institutions without a working flash plug-in. I just had another bad experience with a linksys site using Opera: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1175238286492&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=8649286492H30&displaypage=download The lack of an easy to install and maintain flash program is one of the main reasons I maintain a WinXP machine. Not the only reason perhaps, but nevertheless an important one. I've installed Firefox under Wine for those occations :-) It works fine, a little slow though. /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PLEASE CONTACT ADOBE. TELL THEM TO RELEASE A FLASH PLUGIN FOR > > FREEBSD. > >There are more and more websites you cannot even enter without a > >running Flash Player. > > so don't watch them. their author definitely are not interested in > providing real information, as it can't go without flash. > > while there is a lot of pages that are unreadable without flash, non > of them contain useful informations. I find that assumption grossly inaccurate. I have experienced difficulties numerous times trying to access financial institutions without a working flash plug-in. I just had another bad experience with a linksys site using Opera: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1175238286492&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=8649286492H30&displaypage=download The lack of an easy to install and maintain flash program is one of the main reasons I maintain a WinXP machine. Not the only reason perhaps, but nevertheless an important one. > > If many of the BSD community ask for it, they probably will > >release a BSD Version.. > > they should do it alone, not be asked for it. they know that FreeBSD > exist, and they know that it's just matter of recompiling. But they > don't release FreeBSD version. so they don't willingly. > > They are not idiots, and they already calculated well if providing > FreeBSD version will be good for them of not. > > > don't be anyone's slave and simply don't use this crap at all. > whatever you use freebsd or not -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] God help those who do not help themselves. Wilson Mizner signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Hi Volodymyr, I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to play recent Flash pages. I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to enter some websites.. so write a mail to website owners that you are unable to read it. point them to http://www.anybrowser.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
PLEASE CONTACT ADOBE. TELL THEM TO RELEASE A FLASH PLUGIN FOR FREEBSD. There are more and more websites you cannot even enter without a running Flash Player. so don't watch them. their author definitely are not interested in providing real information, as it can't go without flash. while there is a lot of pages that are unreadable without flash, non of them contain useful informations. If many of the BSD community ask for it, they probably will release a BSD Version.. they should do it alone, not be asked for it. they know that FreeBSD exist, and they know that it's just matter of recompiling. But they don't release FreeBSD version. so they don't willingly. They are not idiots, and they already calculated well if providing FreeBSD version will be good for them of not. don't be anyone's slave and simply don't use this crap at all. whatever you use freebsd or not ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Volodymyr, > I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to > play recent Flash pages. > I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to > enter some websites.. I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
Hi Volodymyr, I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to play recent Flash pages. I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to enter some websites.. Cheers herbs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
herbert langhans wrote: I just wrote an email to Justin Everett-Church. He is the product manager for the Adobe Flash Player, this is his blog: http://justin.everett-church.com/index.php/aboutjustin/ His email: blog justin.mailshell.com Another product manager is Emmy Huang, but I couldnt find her email address. We can try to make Adobe release a Flash Player plugin for FreeBSD. It is merely a matter for them to compile it and put it on their website for download. PLEASE CONTACT ADOBE. TELL THEM TO RELEASE A FLASH PLUGIN FOR FREEBSD. There are more and more websites you cannot even enter without a running Flash Player. If many of the BSD community ask for it, they probably will release a BSD Version.. If you need flash try using www/swfdec-plugin port. Just leave this guys alone, we are yelling long enough for them to hear. They just don't want to do anything. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
