Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
Good, my system finally appeared. Gabriel 2008/11/5 Gabriel Lavoie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That's strange, because I enabled the reporting on my system but its CPU > that wasn't on the list didn't appear. > > > Gabriel > > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Gabriel Lavoie >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? >> >> real-time ... and they aren't "for all time", the #s are based on systems >> reporting in over the past 60 days, so you will periodically see a bit of >> back >> tracking, depending on when in the cycle hosts reported in ... if I reload >> the >> page a few times, I may see it go from 25 013 -> 25 103 -> 25 143 -> 25 >> 140 ... >> but the overall is an upward increase in numbers ... >> >> >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Gabriel >> > >> > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ( >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install >> /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats >> to set things up. >> >> >>> >> >>> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too >> >>> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had >> >>> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats >> >>> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the >> >>> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am >> >>> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just >> >>> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the >> >>> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going >> >>> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to >> >>> ignore it. >> >>> >> >> >> >> There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original >> script >> >> only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using >> >> laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they >> would >> >> be counted also ... >> >> >> >> And you are correct, just change: >> >> >> >> bsdstats_enable="YES" >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> bsdstats_enable="NO" >> >> >> >> And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at >> a >> >> minimum, you just need: >> >> >> >> monthly_statistics_enable="YES" >> >> >> >> in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the >> >> devices/ports reports ... >> >> >> >> >> >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services ( >> http://www.hub.org >> >> ) >> >> Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Gabriel Lavoie >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ___ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> >> >> - -- >> Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. ( >> http://www.hub.org) >> Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkkRHfcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMP1gCfWcuWqCGNWSR5HuGSO4vgRwLb >> Y0EAn3+Pi3/1+eM/mxmKFrF7AFTMQBbv >> =yRDb >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> > > > -- > Gabriel Lavoie > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Gabriel Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
That's strange, because I enabled the reporting on my system but its CPU that wasn't on the list didn't appear. Gabriel 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Gabriel Lavoie > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? > > real-time ... and they aren't "for all time", the #s are based on systems > reporting in over the past 60 days, so you will periodically see a bit of > back > tracking, depending on when in the cycle hosts reported in ... if I reload > the > page a few times, I may see it go from 25 013 -> 25 103 -> 25 143 -> 25 140 > ... > but the overall is an upward increase in numbers ... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gabriel > > > > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: > >> > >> On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED] > ) > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install > /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats > to set things up. > > >>> > >>> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too > >>> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had > >>> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats > >>> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the > >>> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am > >>> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just > >>> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the > >>> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going > >>> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to > >>> ignore it. > >>> > >> > >> There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original > script > >> only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using > >> laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they > would > >> be counted also ... > >> > >> And you are correct, just change: > >> > >> bsdstats_enable="YES" > >> > >> to > >> > >> bsdstats_enable="NO" > >> > >> And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at > a > >> minimum, you just need: > >> > >> monthly_statistics_enable="YES" > >> > >> in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the > >> devices/ports reports ... > >> > >> > >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services ( > http://www.hub.org > >> ) > >> Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 > >> > >> ___ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Gabriel Lavoie > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > - -- > Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org > ) > Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkRHfcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMP1gCfWcuWqCGNWSR5HuGSO4vgRwLb > Y0EAn3+Pi3/1+eM/mxmKFrF7AFTMQBbv > =yRDb > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- Gabriel Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Gabriel Lavoie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? real-time ... and they aren't "for all time", the #s are based on systems reporting in over the past 60 days, so you will periodically see a bit of back tracking, depending on when in the cycle hosts reported in ... if I reload the page a few times, I may see it go from 25 013 -> 25 103 -> 25 143 -> 25 140 ... but the overall is an upward increase in numbers ... > > Thanks > > Gabriel > > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: >> >> On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> wrote: >>> >>> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. >>> >>> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too >>> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had >>> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats >>> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the >>> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am >>> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just >>> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the >>> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going >>> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to >>> ignore it. >>> >> >> There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original script >> only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using >> laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they would >> be counted also ... >> >> And you are correct, just change: >> >> bsdstats_enable="YES" >> >> to >> >> bsdstats_enable="NO" >> >> And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at a >> minimum, you just need: >> >> monthly_statistics_enable="YES" >> >> in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the >> devices/ports reports ... >> >> >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org >> ) >> Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL >> PROTECTED] >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 >> >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> > > > > -- > Gabriel Lavoie > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkRHfcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMP1gCfWcuWqCGNWSR5HuGSO4vgRwLb Y0EAn3+Pi3/1+eM/mxmKFrF7AFTMQBbv =yRDb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? Thanks Gabriel 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: > > On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> wrote: >> >> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats >>> to set things up. >>> >> >> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too >> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had >> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats >> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the >> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am >> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just >> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the >> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going >> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to >> ignore it. >> > > There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original script > only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using > laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they would > be counted also ... > > And you are correct, just change: > > bsdstats_enable="YES" > > to > > bsdstats_enable="NO" > > And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at a > minimum, you just need: > > monthly_statistics_enable="YES" > > in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the > devices/ports reports ... > > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org > ) > Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > -- Gabriel Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to ignore it. There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original script only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they would be counted also ... And you are correct, just change: bsdstats_enable="YES" to bsdstats_enable="NO" And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at a minimum, you just need: monthly_statistics_enable="YES" in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the devices/ports reports ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats > to set things up. I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to ignore it. Regards Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 16:01:41 -1000 Al Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aloha, > > I have 10 FreeBSD servers and desktops in use here in Hawaii. > > These are not on the list as I only have 4 servers that are up 24/7 and they > are fire walled off with pf. > > The 6 others are on a lan behind a Linux Freesco Firewall. Only 2 on 24/7 the > rest are on an as used boot up basis. > > How can I get them Listed? Using FreeBSD as a reference point, the port, when it installs, allows you to enable two methods of reporting: monthly (out of periodic) and on reboot ... so that covers the 4 that aren't up 24/7 ... Next, the reporting is not based on your IP ... in fact, to try and address security concerns, we do not store any information such as IP or hostname ... when you run the stats the first time, it generates a distinct key that is used for reporting and is stored on your host for future reporting to identify you ... Finally, for those dealing with firewalls, the script was written to make use of a PROXY server for reporting, so that no holes have to be opened up for an individual host to connect to the rver ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPtZsACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNo4wCeJ3diXiZkazxtM1t9wLTb5tc7 uvgAoIxbMIEG2w3V6uvQBMW+dY7i7nn5 =MUtC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 01:10:02 +0100 Bernt Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc G. Fournier skrev: >> As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ >> hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > There are errors on your homepage > > 6,072 is a lot less then 500. Pardon? I don't see either # on the home page .. *puzzled look* - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPo3EACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvP3CwCeOE++67wohEqs0ahwWyMtFPpo UgAAn2vgaNlYDqSba42ztrSg8CtSyc8/ =s18z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Its a voluntary reporting ... I know with both PC-BSD, reporting is on by default .. with FreeBSD, its a simple 'make install' in ports ... with NetBSD/OpenBSD, I suspect its purely manual, so a bit more work involved ... Both NetBSD / OpenBSD #s have been increasing though, just not as fast as the others ... - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 15:12:46 -0800 Don Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thorsten Glaser; > Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In > > > As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ > hosts > reporting in, with a break down as follows: > >PC-BSD 17 454 hosts >FreeBSD 5 526 hosts >DesktopBSD1 919 hosts >NetBSD 86 hosts >MirBSD 21 hosts >OpenBSD 55 hosts >DragonFly26 hosts >MidnightBSD 26 hosts >GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts > > We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top > 10 > being: > >United States 6 082 >Russian Federation 1 836 >Germany 1 586 >Australia 1 341 >Ukraine 997 >France930 >Japan 898 >United Kingdom791 >Canada767 >Brazil729 > > Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org > > Project Objective: > > "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy > and > marketing of the *BSD operating systems." > > > PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to > enabled, > while the rest have to be enabled manually. > > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to > set > things up. > > If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the > report > script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is > > being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, > > and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are > 100% > optional ... > > For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the > word, we need more ... > > > If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... > > -- > Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPoWYACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNjvACeJvROm9YrnENUroh5EF1BsGKw 0YsAoMIQoRnBnkFwGTcZG2cv/4KlkDmF =blyH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
[BCCed others] On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Don Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? These numbers represent the number of people that have installed a program to report usage, and are almost completely uncorrelated with actual usage rates. There needs to be a big warning at the top of these very misleading reports. Also, the massive spam to many different lists is not ideal. Any guess at actual "usage" numbers would be many orders of magnitude larger, and PC-BSD would be a rounding error to other BSDs used in large hosting environments (nothing against the great work being done by PC-BSD, just a fact based on desktop vs server focus). I continue to believe that sending out these numbers which massively undercount all operating systems is very counter-productive, but I've said that before. If you want to get better numbers you could try to survey all web servers on the internet, identify the host operating systems by server responses, tcp/ip timing characteristics, or other heuristics. You could alternatively mine google analytics / webserver log data for large websites if you want client numbers, or countless other data sources that would give you far more data than this self reporting mechanism, and with a much better sample than the very biased mechanism used for these numbers. - Murray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Don Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? As far as I know, these numbers can only be accurate if the administrator enables (installs?) stats reporting. You can add 1 to FreeBSD, because I don't allow stats reporting. :) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers accurate? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thorsten Glaser; Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 17 454 hosts FreeBSD 5 526 hosts DesktopBSD1 919 hosts NetBSD 86 hosts MirBSD 21 hosts OpenBSD 55 hosts DragonFly26 hosts MidnightBSD 26 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 6 082 Russian Federation 1 836 Germany 1 586 Australia 1 341 Ukraine 997 France930 Japan 898 United Kingdom791 Canada767 Brazil729 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"