Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-26 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:31:33 -0700
Henrik W Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I haven't found GAG in the ports. Has it not been added or have I just
> not found it? I assume the source tarball off of SourceForge builds, 
> since people are running it, but it'd be so much cleaner if it existed
> as a port.

You should not build it. Just burn the ISO file onto a CDROM (for future
refs), boot your system with it and GAG will install. In this process
you can leave your bootdevices unchanged, add a parameter to the windows
partition to "change driveletters" Just try it; you'll love it. It's not
fbsd related so it's not in the ports.

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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-26 Thread Henrik W Lund
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

AFAIK it's not a weirdness of the BIOS but of the Windows XP loader,
which expects that it will be fired up from the first (and only) active
partition of the first disk.
 

Well, it shouldn't surprise me, knowing MS and their quirky ways of 
doing things. Anyways, it all works now. It seems I have two operating 
systems labeled '???' and 'Drive 1' if the boot screen is anything to go 
by. I kinda like that. Keeps people in the dark. ;-)

I haven't found GAG in the ports. Has it not been added or have I just 
not found it? I assume the source tarball off of SourceForge builds, 
since people are running it, but it'd be so much cleaner if it existed 
as a port.

-Henrik W Lund
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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-26 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:35:47 +0300
Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2004-06-26 00:59, Henrik W Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Is this some weirdness of the BIOS? That the onboard IDE controllers
> > are somehow inherently preferred, and that weirdness occurs if
> > drives on any other controller are set to drive 0? It beats me,
> > maybe one of you guys know. Please let me know if you do, as this
> > befuddles me.
> 
> AFAIK it's not a weirdness of the BIOS but of the Windows XP loader,
> which expects that it will be fired up from the first (and only)
> active partition of the first disk.

That's right. /One/ way to deal with this behaviour of windows is to
change the booting devices in the bios. You can also install GAG wich is
absolutely wanderfull!

http://gag.sourceforge.net

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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-26 00:59, Henrik W Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now, what I did not expect is that if I set the FreeBSD drive as drive
> 0 in the BIOS, I am still unable to boot WinXP. The boot manager comes
> up, I select Drive 1, it prompts me again and I select the '???' entry
> (WinXP) - and the machine reboots. Selecting FreeBSD at the first
> invocation of boot0 gets me into FreeBSD alright.

> However, setting the WinXP drive as drive 0 in the BIOS things work
> flawlessly. At the first invocation of boot0, WinXP boots up if I
> select '???'. If I select Drive 1, and the second invocation of boot0
> appears and I select 'FreeBSD' - it boots FreeBSD!!

> Is this some weirdness of the BIOS? That the onboard IDE controllers
> are somehow inherently preferred, and that weirdness occurs if drives
> on any other controller are set to drive 0? It beats me, maybe one of
> you guys know. Please let me know if you do, as this befuddles me.

AFAIK it's not a weirdness of the BIOS but of the Windows XP loader,
which expects that it will be fired up from the first (and only) active
partition of the first disk.

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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-25 Thread Henrik W Lund
Henrik W Lund wrote:
Jud wrote:

 

The FreeBSD bootloader should be installed on *both* hard drives.  This
will boot WinXP, but will show it in the boot menu as "???"  If you
prefer a boot manager that allows you to easily enter the names of the
OSs you are booting, you might try GAG (http://gag.sourceforge.net/>).
Jud
 

So, a quick ´boot0cfg -B ad2´ (where ad2 is my WinXP drive) should do 
it then? How come I didn't think of that? ;-)

Thanks!
-Henrik W Lund

Just following up here. The above works, albeit in a weird kinda way. 
After installing the boot0 boot manager on the other drive as well, I 
get the prompt one more time when I select to boot from the other drive 
- which is what I'd expect.

Now, what I did not expect is that if I set the FreeBSD drive as drive 0 
in the BIOS, I am still unable to boot WinXP. The boot manager comes up, 
I select Drive 1, it prompts me again and I select the '???' entry 
(WinXP) - and the machine reboots. Selecting FreeBSD at the first 
invocation of boot0 gets me into FreeBSD alright.

However, setting the WinXP drive as drive 0 in the BIOS things work 
flawlessly. At the first invocation of boot0, WinXP boots up if I select 
'???'. If I select Drive 1, and the second invocation of boot0 appears 
and I select 'FreeBSD' - it boots FreeBSD!!

Is this some weirdness of the BIOS? That the onboard IDE controllers are 
somehow inherently preferred, and that weirdness occurs if drives on any 
other controller are set to drive 0? It beats me, maybe one of you guys 
know. Please let me know if you do, as this befuddles me.

-Henrik W Lund
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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-25 Thread Henrik W Lund
Jud wrote:

 

The FreeBSD bootloader should be installed on *both* hard drives.  This
will boot WinXP, but will show it in the boot menu as "???"  If you
prefer a boot manager that allows you to easily enter the names of the
OSs you are booting, you might try GAG (http://gag.sourceforge.net/>).
Jud
 

So, a quick ´boot0cfg -B ad2´ (where ad2 is my WinXP drive) should do it 
then? How come I didn't think of that? ;-)

Thanks!
-Henrik W Lund
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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-25 Thread Jud

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:06:44 -0700, "Henrik W Lund"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Greetings, list!
> 
> I have a question regarding my boot0 setup. First, let me lay out my 
> harddrive topology:
> 
> Onboard Serial ATA RAID controller --> 1 HDD, 120 GB all in one slice. 
> FreeBSD resides on this.
> Onboard Secondary IDE controller --> 1 HDD, 20 GB all in one slice. Home 
> of WinXP.
> 
> On the 120 GB disk, I have installed the boot0 bootmanager. It provides 
> the following output on startup:
> 
> F1 FreeBSD
> F5 Drive 1
> 
> Now, the thing is, regardless of whether I press F1 or F5, it always 
> ends up booting the FreeBSD drive (the one on the Serial ATA 
> controller). What can I do to make it boot from the other one? Can I at 
> all? The alternatives are entering the BIOS and manually changing the 
> disks' boot priorities - which is kinda awkward - or installing a 
> different bootmanager. Both alternatives are not tempting, both because 
> I like simplicity, and because I don't know what complications (if any) 
> my running FreeBSD/amd64 might introduce into the installation of 
> another bootmanager.

The FreeBSD bootloader should be installed on *both* hard drives.  This
will boot WinXP, but will show it in the boot menu as "???"  If you
prefer a boot manager that allows you to easily enter the names of the
OSs you are booting, you might try GAG (http://gag.sourceforge.net/>).

Jud
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