Re: Can't send to mailing list from server

2004-09-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Gene Bomgardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Actually, the IPS's DNS entry is for reverse lookup. I suspect that
> the problem might be that a forward lookup returns a different IP
> address. That is:
> 
> domain.net --> 172.1.1.1   While
> 209.1.1.1 --> domain.net
> 
> Because the domain is redirected normally to domaindirect servers. I
> probably need to change the primary DNS entries, but I'm not certain
> yet.

Absolutely.  Your mail server is claiming to be a different host.

> GOD I hate the hoops we need to go through to avoid filthy spammers

True, but this is different.  Your server is misconfigured in a way
that makes it difficult to be sure that error messages go to the right
place, so my mail server would have rejected its connections even
before I started tightening down against "spam."
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Re: Can't send to mailing list from server

2004-09-08 Thread Gene Bomgardner


From: Karl Swartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Can't send to mailing list from server
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 09:53:32 -0700
> Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [209.x.y.z]
>
> 209.x.y.z is a static address with a DNS entry courtesy of my ISP.
>
> Any idea what the list's mta is looking for and how I can provide it?
By obfuscating the last three octets you destroyed the evidence needed
to fully help you.  The error text (cannot find your hostname) suggests
you don't have reverse DNS -- mail admins increasingly won't accept mail
from such hosts because that's often a sign of a mismanaged network
which also happens to be spewing spam.
However, your message includes a full 209 address in the headers:
   Received: from 209.240.79.79 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;
Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:51:01 GMT
   X-Originating-IP: [209.240.79.79]
209.240.79.79 does have reverse DNS, so if that's the address that was
not being accepted by the freebsd mail server it's a bit more puzzling.
Perhaps reverse DNS was temporarily unavailble.
Correct - the IP is indeed 209.240.79.79 and does have a reverse DNS. 
However, forward lookup for the same domain will yield a completely seperate 
address since I'm still tied to domaindirect's name servers and using some 
of their redirection. I'm beginning to suspect that that's where the problem 
is coming from.

Gene
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Re: Can't send to mailing list from server

2004-09-08 Thread Gene Bomgardner


From: Remko Lodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gene Bomgardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Can't send to mailing list from server
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:02:33 +0200
Gene Bomgardner wrote:
209.x.y.z is a static address with a DNS entry courtesy of my ISP.
Any idea what the list's mta is looking for and how I can provide it?
Yes i have, i have the same issue, i have a static ip on my colocated 
machine, but there is no reverse dns lookup configured yet. When FreeBSD 
mailingservers cannot find a reversed lookup, it rejects your email until 
it can (the mail gets killed after your timeout trigger has been reached).

So please check whether your 209.?.?.? adres has a reversed lookup since 
that might be the problem :)
Actually, the IPS's DNS entry is for reverse lookup. I suspect that the 
problem might be that a forward lookup returns a different IP address. That 
is:

domain.net --> 172.1.1.1   While
209.1.1.1 --> domain.net
Because the domain is redirected normally to domaindirect servers. I 
probably need to change the primary DNS entries, but I'm not certain yet.

GOD I hate the hoops we need to go through to avoid filthy spammers
Gene
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Re: Can't send to mailing list from server

2004-09-08 Thread Remko Lodder
Gene Bomgardner wrote:
209.x.y.z is a static address with a DNS entry courtesy of my ISP.
Any idea what the list's mta is looking for and how I can provide it?
Yes i have, i have the same issue, i have a static ip on my colocated 
machine, but there is no reverse dns lookup configured yet. When FreeBSD 
mailingservers cannot find a reversed lookup, it rejects your email 
until it can (the mail gets killed after your timeout trigger has been 
reached).

So please check whether your 209.?.?.? adres has a reversed lookup since 
that might be the problem :)

Cheers
p.s i read that you have DNS entry courtesy of your ISP, still i think 
it's reverse issues.

Thanks

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Re: Can't send to mailing list from server

2004-09-08 Thread Karl Swartz
> Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [209.x.y.z]
> 
> 209.x.y.z is a static address with a DNS entry courtesy of my ISP.
> 
> Any idea what the list's mta is looking for and how I can provide it?

By obfuscating the last three octets you destroyed the evidence needed
to fully help you.  The error text (cannot find your hostname) suggests
you don't have reverse DNS -- mail admins increasingly won't accept mail
from such hosts because that's often a sign of a mismanaged network
which also happens to be spewing spam.

However, your message includes a full 209 address in the headers:

   Received: from 209.240.79.79 by by1fd.bay1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;
Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:51:01 GMT
   X-Originating-IP: [209.240.79.79]

209.240.79.79 does have reverse DNS, so if that's the address that was
not being accepted by the freebsd mail server it's a bit more puzzling.
Perhaps reverse DNS was temporarily unavailble.

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