Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun 2008-07-13 18:24:50 UTC-0600, Keith Seyffarth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Has anyone else had problems with Firefox 3 installed from the ports
 being massively slow?

No.  I installed it from Ports on a FreeBSD 7.0 and it seemed to run
with no major dramas.  Certainly no long delays between page views
like you're experiencing.

It sounds like you might be having some sort of networking (DNS?)
issue.  To rule that out, one experiment you can try is to browse some
local files, eg. /usr/share/doc/handbook/index.html
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Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 06:24:50PM -0600, Keith Seyffarth wrote:
 
 Has anyone else had problems with Firefox 3 installed from the ports
 being massively slow?
 
 Unlike on Windows, where the load time for the application is much
 slower (takes roughly twice as long as FF2 did), but once the
 application is loaded, it seems to be about the same, on my BSD box,
 the application loads in a little under half the time, but each page
 load takes much, much longer (8 minutes for the google firefox start
 page, 16 minutes for the welcome to Firefox 3 page, 10 minutes for the
 mozillazine home page, 6 minutes for each mozallazine forum page). On
 top of this, once the page is loaded, it take 90-120 seconds before
 you can interact with a page, and even then, interaction is slow - 5
 seconds between clicking in the scroll bar and the window moving, 15
 seconds between clicking a link and the browser acknowledging the
 click...

I did experience this, and I had to tweak the following settings in
about:config before the experience became usable:

network.http.pipelining: true
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests: 10
network.http.pipelining.ssl: true

The image loading and display code seems to have changed significantly,
and some unintended behaviour seems to have been introduced. (I also
get ugly black boxes images if there is an resized image in the loaded
page.)

Hope this helps.
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Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread Jason W. Morgan
On 2008.07.14 14:08:03, Jonathan Chen wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 06:24:50PM -0600, Keith Seyffarth wrote:
  
  Has anyone else had problems with Firefox 3 installed from the ports
  being massively slow?
  
  Unlike on Windows, where the load time for the application is much
  slower (takes roughly twice as long as FF2 did), but once the
  application is loaded, it seems to be about the same, on my BSD box,
  the application loads in a little under half the time, but each page
  load takes much, much longer (8 minutes for the google firefox start
  page, 16 minutes for the welcome to Firefox 3 page, 10 minutes for the
  mozillazine home page, 6 minutes for each mozallazine forum page). On
  top of this, once the page is loaded, it take 90-120 seconds before
  you can interact with a page, and even then, interaction is slow - 5
  seconds between clicking in the scroll bar and the window moving, 15
  seconds between clicking a link and the browser acknowledging the
  click...

I know it's not pleasant, but make sure all of your ports are updated
(if they aren't already). There were some significant changes that had
to happen to get FF3 running; namely, poppler and everything that
depends on it.

 I did experience this, and I had to tweak the following settings in
 about:config before the experience became usable:
 
 network.http.pipelining: true
 network.http.pipelining.maxrequests: 10
 network.http.pipelining.ssl: true
 
 The image loading and display code seems to have changed significantly,
 and some unintended behaviour seems to have been introduced. (I also
 get ugly black boxes images if there is an resized image in the loaded
 page.)

I also get the annoying black boxes. I haven't tested it thoroughly
yet, but it seems to happen most often with resized png images. That
could just be a result of the pages I visit though; they seem to use
pngs quite extensively.

As for performance problems, I have noticed that FF3 is slower than
FF2 at loading pages with many images, and I've had a lot of trouble
with Flash (as usual). But the problems are not so significant that
I've been forced to uninstall it.

I wonder if your settings will help ...

~Jason
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Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread Ezequiel Aguerre
 I did experience this, and I had to tweak the following settings in
 about:config before the experience became usable:

network.http.pipelining: true
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests: 10
network.http.pipelining.ssl: true

 The image loading and display code seems to have changed significantly,
 and some unintended behaviour seems to have been introduced. (I also
 get ugly black boxes images if there is an resized image in the loaded
 page.)

 Hope this helps.


Yes, I have the same problem (lagg and black boxes), not only on FreeBSD but
also on Gentoo Linux. However I do not have that MUCH lag. I'll try with
your settings.
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Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Jason W. Morgan wrote:


I also get the annoying black boxes. I haven't tested it thoroughly
yet, but it seems to happen most often with resized png images. That
could just be a result of the pages I visit though; they seem to use
pngs quite extensively.


That's a known bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414928


As for performance problems, I have noticed that FF3 is slower than
FF2 at loading pages with many images, and I've had a lot of trouble
with Flash (as usual). But the problems are not so significant that
I've been forced to uninstall it.


FF3 seems to be faster than 2.0.0.14 for me (on 7.0-STABLE).  Flash 7 
seems to be no worse than 2.0.0.14, which is to say that it works maybe 
half the places it's used, and does nothing on the others.  Come to 
think of it, 2.0.0.14 would lock up on many of those, and FF3 does not.


Adblock Plus and FlashBlock help, too.

One other note: FF3 wanted to check my extensions for compatibility 
almost every time it started.  A process for disabling that check is 
described here:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Updating_extensions

It's just adding these two settings to about:config:

extensions.checkCompatibility  false
extensions.checkUpdateSecurity false

That didn't stop every check, though.  Adding those two settings to the 
default profile (/usr/local/lib/firefox3/defaults/profile/prefs.js) in 
addition to the user settings seemed to stop all the checks.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread Keith Seyffarth
 I did experience this, and I had to tweak the following settings in
 about:config before the experience became usable:
 
 network.http.pipelining: true
 network.http.pipelining.maxrequests: 10
 network.http.pipelining.ssl: true
 
 The image loading and display code seems to have changed significantly,
 and some unintended behaviour seems to have been introduced. (I also
 get ugly black boxes images if there is an resized image in the loaded
 page.)

Johnathan,
thanks a ton, that seems to have corrected it. We're now back to
nearly the performance of FF2. Though I haven't seen the black images
issue yet.

Thanks,
Keith S
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Re: Firefox 3 problems - SLOW...

2008-07-13 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Warren Block wrote:

One other note: FF3 wanted to check my extensions for compatibility almost 
every time it started.  A process for disabling that check is described here:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Updating_extensions

It's just adding these two settings to about:config:

extensions.checkCompatibility  false
extensions.checkUpdateSecurity false

That didn't stop every check, though.  Adding those two settings to the 
default profile (/usr/local/lib/firefox3/defaults/profile/prefs.js) in 
addition to the user settings seemed to stop all the checks.


Update: no it didn't.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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