RE: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-24 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Capozzoli
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: Hardware monitor needed
> 
> 
> On 6/21/07, Eduardo Viruena Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My FreeBSD 6.2 server restarts suddenly once or twice a day. 
> I believe it is
> > > because the processor is overheated, but I'm not sure. Is 
> there a way to
> > > check this from software? I would like to install a hardware 
> monitor program
> > > that can log out processor temperature in every minute. The 
> mainboard is ASUS
> > > P5LD2, if that matters. Is there a software out there that 
> can do this for
> > > me?
> > >
> > > Of course I could buy a new processor fan (or a water cooling 
> system) but I
> > > do not want to spend money before I make sure that is the root of the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >  Laszlo
> > >
> >
> > Believe it or not, my computer had the same behavoir because
> > it was very dirty.  It took 3 cans of compressed air
> > to clean it.   Once clean, it worked perfectly.
> compressed air? nonsense, I prefer the 
> cleaned-out-reverse-shopvac method ;)
> 

I use my 60 gallon shop air compressor and about 100 psi on a
blowgun.  Making sure to use the non-oiled air feed, of course.

Ted

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Re: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-23 Thread Jim Capozzoli

On 6/21/07, Eduardo Viruena Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> My FreeBSD 6.2 server restarts suddenly once or twice a day. I believe it is
> because the processor is overheated, but I'm not sure. Is there a way to
> check this from software? I would like to install a hardware monitor program
> that can log out processor temperature in every minute. The mainboard is ASUS
> P5LD2, if that matters. Is there a software out there that can do this for
> me?
>
> Of course I could buy a new processor fan (or a water cooling system) but I
> do not want to spend money before I make sure that is the root of the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Laszlo
>

Believe it or not, my computer had the same behavoir because
it was very dirty.  It took 3 cans of compressed air
to clean it.   Once clean, it worked perfectly.

compressed air? nonsense, I prefer the cleaned-out-reverse-shopvac method ;)


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Re: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-21 Thread Martin Hudec

Hello,

Laszlo Nagy wrote:
This server is an X terminal server and the users connect to it with 'X 
-query '. Can I do something to reduce the load on the CPU? 
"gnome-volume-manage" uses 99% of the CPU, constantly -  why?

--Alex


You can try to trace them, what they are doing, what functions are 
called, etc. See man ktrace for details. Unfortunately I am unable to 
provide more help, as I do not know at this time, what is 
gnome-volume-manage..


kind regards,
Martin Hudec

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Re: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-21 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Laszlo Nagy wrote:



Check out healthd or mbmon.  One or other has worked OK for me on 
other Asus boards, and both are in ports (sysutils/ I think).


If you have ACPI and your board supports thermal zones, then you can 
check those.

   sysctl -a | egrep 'acpi.*therm'
or
   sysctl -a | egrep 'acpi.*tz'

one or other should be a good enough incantation.  None of my ASUS 
mobos do have thermal zones so I can't be sure -- it's much more 
commonly supported in laptops.


Or just

   sysctl -a | egrep acpi


I do not have anything that looks like temperature. Is it still 
possible to use healthd or mbmon?


Yes.  healthd and mbmon try to talk to the monitoring chip directly, so 
they can work with or without thermal zones.  The only way to know *if* 
they work on your particular board is to try them :-(  They don't take 
long to compile.


PS Many disks which support SMART can display their apparent temp as 
one of the SMART parameters (see sysutils/smartmontools).  Not 100% 
trustworthy, but better than nowt.  I'd rather fry the processor than 
a disk :-) 



I'm not affraid of that. I have gmirror-ed disks and they are much 
cheaper than the processor ( E6320 ).


It's not the cost of the disks that worries me, it's the cost of the 
data!  Yes, I mirror, and yes I back up to another server.  But if one 
disk in a server overheats, likelihood is that the others will too :-(  
I just like low temperatures all round.


No idea re gnome-volume-manage; don't even know what it is.  Sorry.

--Alex


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Re: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-21 Thread Eduardo Viruena Silva

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote:



Hi,

My FreeBSD 6.2 server restarts suddenly once or twice a day. I believe it is 
because the processor is overheated, but I'm not sure. Is there a way to 
check this from software? I would like to install a hardware monitor program 
that can log out processor temperature in every minute. The mainboard is ASUS 
P5LD2, if that matters. Is there a software out there that can do this for 
me?


Of course I could buy a new processor fan (or a water cooling system) but I 
do not want to spend money before I make sure that is the root of the 
problem.


Thanks,

 Laszlo



Believe it or not, my computer had the same behavoir because
it was very dirty.  It took 3 cans of compressed air
to clean it.   Once clean, it worked perfectly.
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Re: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-21 Thread Laszlo Nagy


Check out healthd or mbmon.  One or other has worked OK for me on 
other Asus boards, and both are in ports (sysutils/ I think).


If you have ACPI and your board supports thermal zones, then you can 
check those.

   sysctl -a | egrep 'acpi.*therm'
or
   sysctl -a | egrep 'acpi.*tz'

one or other should be a good enough incantation.  None of my ASUS 
mobos do have thermal zones so I can't be sure -- it's much more 
commonly supported in laptops.


Or just

   sysctl -a | egrep acpi
I do not have anything that looks like temperature. Is it still possible 
to use healthd or mbmon?


By the way,  I'm 100% sure that the problem is with the CPU load. Here 
is the output of top:



 PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
2266 monica1 1100 16268K 11088K RUN1  17:22 22.85% 
gnome-volume-manage
1258 edit  1 1100 16268K 11000K RUN1  19:08 22.75% 
gnome-volume-manage
1658 mariann   1 1090 16320K 11260K RUN1  18:30 22.56% 
gnome-volume-manage
1528 mtamas1 1090 16268K 11068K RUN1  18:49 22.41% 
gnome-volume-manage
1244 timea 1 1100 16268K 11000K CPU1   1  19:07 22.36% 
gnome-volume-manage
1251 monica1 1100 16268K 11000K RUN1  18:44 22.07% 
gnome-volume-manage
1268 zoltan1 1090 16268K 11000K RUN1  18:52 21.78% 
gnome-volume-manage



This server is an X terminal server and the users connect to it with 'X 
-query '. Can I do something to reduce the load on the CPU? 
"gnome-volume-manage" uses 99% of the CPU, constantly -  why?

--Alex

PS Many disks which support SMART can display their apparent temp as 
one of the SMART parameters (see sysutils/smartmontools).  Not 100% 
trustworthy, but better than nowt.  I'd rather fry the processor than 
a disk :-)
I'm not affraid of that. I have gmirror-ed disks and they are much 
cheaper than the processor ( E6320 ).


Thank you!

 Laszlo

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Re: Hardware monitor needed

2007-06-21 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Laszlo Nagy wrote:



 Hi,

My FreeBSD 6.2 server restarts suddenly once or twice a day. I believe 
it is because the processor is overheated, but I'm not sure. Is there 
a way to check this from software? I would like to install a hardware 
monitor program that can log out processor temperature in every 
minute. The mainboard is ASUS P5LD2, if that matters. Is there a 
software out there that can do this for me?


Check out healthd or mbmon.  One or other has worked OK for me on other 
Asus boards, and both are in ports (sysutils/ I think).


If you have ACPI and your board supports thermal zones, then you can 
check those. 


   sysctl -a | egrep 'acpi.*therm'
or
   sysctl -a | egrep 'acpi.*tz'

one or other should be a good enough incantation.  None of my ASUS mobos 
do have thermal zones so I can't be sure -- it's much more commonly 
supported in laptops.


Or just

   sysctl -a | egrep acpi

and eyeball for anything that looks like temp information.


Also beware of constant monitoring.  Every now and again (once a day on 
average), I find mbmon sits chewing CPU and pushing the temperature up 
itself.  So I run in with


 (ulimit -t 1; /usr/local/bin/mbmon -p winbond -c 1)

which means that the parent shell kills it if it uses more than 1 second 
of CPU, which is far more than it needs.


--Alex

PS Many disks which support SMART can display their apparent temp as one 
of the SMART parameters (see sysutils/smartmontools).  Not 100% 
trustworthy, but better than nowt.  I'd rather fry the processor than a 
disk :-)


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