Re: Install on 486 with floppy reboots after mfsroot
matthew wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: Oh boy, I guess that I've either got to find more RAM, find an older/stripped down version of FreeBSD, or give up. Well, if i was you i would get on the phone and call every household that you think has a basement full of junk. They will more than likely have an old computer down there you can take the ram from. I looked around a little, how would I find a skinnier version of FreeBSD for this old box. Did you try 3.5-RELEASE and cvsup to stable? I still run 3.4 and 3.5. I have previously used install floppies from 3.2 (as this was the most readily available version because I still have the cd set) to install 4.x on similar machines. However, these was quite a long time ago. When using this method, in the options section change the release you want to install from 3.2-RELEASE to the version you want to install from the cd/ftp/etc. as appropriate. Watch vtty1 for /etc/libexec to be installed and then you will be able to use vi in the holographic shell to edit /etc/fstab to change the /dev/wd* to /dev/ad*. After this you shouldn't have any problems. Waiting until after the machine reboots before editing /etc/fstab can result in headaches and is not recommended, but is not impossible(IIRC). Again, I should point out that the last time I did this was with an early release on the 4.x branch, I don't remember the exact version and the old 486 that would testify to the procedure is at my parents house pretending to be a paper weight. Also, does anybody have any ideas (besides ebay) on how I would find some really old 60ns SIMMS for that box for cheap? If you were standing right next to me I would throw some at you :P Are you in some strange region where it is difficult to find old ram? I am sure a second hand pc shop will gladly give you 32mb ram (come in pairs) for 5 bucks. 10 at most. m -- Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Re: Install on 486 with floppy reboots after mfsroot
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: > > Oh boy, I guess that I've either got to find more RAM, find an > older/stripped down version of FreeBSD, or give up. > Well, if i was you i would get on the phone and call every household that you think has a basement full of junk. They will more than likely have an old computer down there you can take the ram from. > I looked around a little, how would I find a skinnier version > of FreeBSD for this old box. Did you try 3.5-RELEASE and cvsup to stable? I still run 3.4 and 3.5. > > Also, does anybody have any ideas (besides ebay) on how I would > find some really old 60ns SIMMS for that box for cheap? > > If you were standing right next to me I would throw some at you :P Are you in some strange region where it is difficult to find old ram? I am sure a second hand pc shop will gladly give you 32mb ram (come in pairs) for 5 bucks. 10 at most. m > Thanks so far, you've been quite responsive. > > Brent > > > >--- Original Message --- > >From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: 2/12/04 11:43:38 AM > > > Warren Block wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: > >> > I get to the end of step "2.3.1.1 Booting for the i386" > where it > tells to boot the kernel and no matter what I do, it just > reboots the > computer! Therefore it looses whatever it tried to put > in memory and > starts over again.How can I get it to go to the kernel > setup? > > My Hardware: > IBM PS/Valuepoint 486 33MHz > 8 MB RAM > >> > >> ^^ > >> > >> This is likely the problem. The install needs more than 8M, > somewhere > >> between 12 and 16M last I heard. > >> > >> If it helps, I have a Valuepoint 486 DX2/66 with 32M of RAM > that runs > >> 4.8 flawlessly. > >> > > > >I've got 4.9 running on a 486/33 with 20 MB of RAM, so if you > can scrape > >up that much it should be sufficient. It works fine as a personal > mail > >server with Courier, except that the IMAP folders containing > over 10,000 > >messages cause huge amounts of thrashing when I open them. > Takes > >several minutes. > > > >It also takes nearly three days to build 4.9 from source on > a 486/33... > > > >- Bob > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Re: Install on 486 with floppy reboots after mfsroot
Oh boy, I guess that I've either got to find more RAM, find an older/stripped down version of FreeBSD, or give up. I looked around a little, how would I find a skinnier version of FreeBSD for this old box. Also, does anybody have any ideas (besides ebay) on how I would find some really old 60ns SIMMS for that box for cheap? Thanks so far, you've been quite responsive. Brent >--- Original Message --- >From: Bob Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: 2/12/04 11:43:38 AM > Warren Block wrote: >>On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: >> I get to the end of step "2.3.1.1 Booting for the i386" where it tells to boot the kernel and no matter what I do, it just reboots the computer! Therefore it looses whatever it tried to put in memory and starts over again.How can I get it to go to the kernel setup? My Hardware: IBM PS/Valuepoint 486 33MHz 8 MB RAM >> >> ^^ >> >> This is likely the problem. The install needs more than 8M, somewhere >> between 12 and 16M last I heard. >> >> If it helps, I have a Valuepoint 486 DX2/66 with 32M of RAM that runs >> 4.8 flawlessly. >> > >I've got 4.9 running on a 486/33 with 20 MB of RAM, so if you can scrape >up that much it should be sufficient. It works fine as a personal mail >server with Courier, except that the IMAP folders containing over 10,000 >messages cause huge amounts of thrashing when I open them. Takes >several minutes. > >It also takes nearly three days to build 4.9 from source on a 486/33... > >- Bob > > > > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Install on 486 with floppy reboots after mfsroot
Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: I get to the end of step "2.3.1.1 Booting for the i386™" where it tells to boot the kernel and no matter what I do, it just reboots the computer! Therefore it looses whatever it tried to put in memory and starts over again.How can I get it to go to the kernel setup? My Hardware: IBM PS/Valuepoint 486 33MHz 8 MB RAM ^^ This is likely the problem. The install needs more than 8M, somewhere between 12 and 16M last I heard. If it helps, I have a Valuepoint 486 DX2/66 with 32M of RAM that runs 4.8 flawlessly. I've got 4.9 running on a 486/33 with 20 MB of RAM, so if you can scrape up that much it should be sufficient. It works fine as a personal mail server with Courier, except that the IMAP folders containing over 10,000 messages cause huge amounts of thrashing when I open them. Takes several minutes. It also takes nearly three days to build 4.9 from source on a 486/33... - Bob ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Install on 486 with floppy reboots after mfsroot
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: > I get to the end of step "2.3.1.1 Booting for the i386™" where it > tells to boot the kernel and no matter what I do, it just reboots the > computer! Therefore it looses whatever it tried to put in memory and > starts over again.How can I get it to go to the kernel setup? > > My Hardware: > IBM PS/Valuepoint 486 33MHz > 8 MB RAM ^^ This is likely the problem. The install needs more than 8M, somewhere between 12 and 16M last I heard. If it helps, I have a Valuepoint 486 DX2/66 with 32M of RAM that runs 4.8 flawlessly. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Install on 486 with floppy reboots after mfsroot
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Brent Bowman wrote: > > Hello all, I've got a question about the install of the current FreeBSD. > > I am using the floppy install, and I dd (I'm a linux user) both the > kern.flp and mfsroot.flp onto floppies, then I follow the instructions > on this site: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html > > I get to the end of step "2.3.1.1 Booting for the i386™" where it > tells to boot the kernel and no matter what I do, it just reboots the > computer! Therefore it looses whatever it tried to put in memory and > starts over again.How can I get it to go to the kernel setup? > > My Hardware: > IBM PS/Valuepoint 486 33MHz > 8 MB RAM > 2 x 212MB HD > 3-COM network card > no CDROM > > Thanks, Any help would be appreciated > This might sound silly, but I would download the *.flp again. I would find two different floppy disks and use those. I think the FreeBSD handbook even says to try it 2-4 times before asking. Floppies are just that bad. Maybe it will help, maybe it wont. Good luck. m > Brent > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
