Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-10 Thread Derek Ragona

At 07:47 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

On 7/9/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At 04:20 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

On 7/9/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  At 03:43 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

 I've got a machine with 2GB of RAM, onto which I can install Windows
  XP with no issues.

  However, FreeBSD 6.2 Release is giving me fits on this machine. If any
  of you have insight, I'd surely appreciate you sharing

  The motherboard is an Intel D645 GEBV2. I've tried a couple of
  different disk arrangements, with no success.

  I've installed an IDE WD 180GB drive, which the motherboard BIOS
  detects just fine. When I boot from disk 1 for the FreeBSD install, it
  detects no hard drive.

  I've put in an Addonics ADSA2 PCI SATA card, which sports the SiL
  1352A chipset, but the install blows up when installing to a 74GB
  Seagate drive - the kernel panics and it reboots while copying files
  to disk.

  Has anyone run into these problems? Google hasn't been particularly my
  friend on this one.

  I've tried reading the install docs on the CD, with no particular
  luck, but I could be missing something.
  Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know the
 Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues with these
 chips and FreeBSD!

  Can you find a regular IDE drive to plug into that motherboard?

  -Derek
 Plugging an IDE drive into the motherboard is the first thing I did -
 that's the case above where FreeBSD didn't see *any* HD. That's the
 one that really fries my brain, because the motherboard BIOS detects
 it correctly, and XP installs to it just fine.
 Any possibility the IDE master/slave jumper is not set right on that drive?

 On some intel MB's it takes a reboot into setup so that setup see's the
hard drive, then check that it has that hard drive in the boot order.  I
know this seems a bit simple, but just trying to check all possibilities.
I've never seen a problem with a standard IDE drive installation.  After you
had XP on the drive did you reformat the drive to clear it out?

 -Derek


I think I'll go beat my lackey again.

He was supposed to remove the jumper, and didn't do it.

I took it off, and it's installing happily to the IDE drive.

I'm gonna bag the SATA for now.

Thanks for your help,

Kurt


I'm glad I could help.  As an FYI windows ignores a lot of hardware issues 
until it simply can't run anymore, where FreeBSD is much better at error 
checking.  Of course sometimes that can make it frustrating.


If you can get a decent SATA controller you might try adding or switching 
to SATA in the future, but avoid the Sil ones.


-Derek


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Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-10 Thread Fredrik Tolf
I think I accidently posted a reply to this via private mail with an
invalid source address, but I'm not sure what I did, so I'll take this
opportunity to apologize to anyone to gets this message twice.

Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know
 the Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues with
 these chips and FreeBSD!

That's interesting to me. Is there any further information available
on that subject?

I've been using SiL chips with Linux for quite a while with no
problems, and I was planning to do the same with FreeBSD as well, but
if there are known problems with SiL and FreeBSD I may need to rethink
that decision.

(To be more exact, I've been using the SiL 311[24] chips)

Fredrik Tolf

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Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-10 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Fredrik Tolf wrote:

Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know
the Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues  
with

these chips and FreeBSD!


That's interesting to me. Is there any further information available
on that subject?

I've been using SiL chips with Linux for quite a while with no
problems, and I was planning to do the same with FreeBSD as well, but
if there are known problems with SiL and FreeBSD I may need to rethink
that decision.

(To be more exact, I've been using the SiL 311[24] chips)


There are significant hardware defects with the SiliconImage 311x  
chips, which can mostly be worked around if you accept a loss of  
performance.  These workarounds are implemented in both Linux and the  
BSDs, but details are available here:


http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=Silicon+Image+3112 
+bugsie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8


...gives results such as:

http://www.nabble.com/SII3512-rev0---t3995350.html

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Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-09 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:43 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

I've got a machine with 2GB of RAM, onto which I can install Windows
XP with no issues.

However, FreeBSD 6.2 Release is giving me fits on this machine. If any
of you have insight, I'd surely appreciate you sharing

The motherboard is an Intel D645 GEBV2. I've tried a couple of
different disk arrangements, with no success.

I've installed an IDE WD 180GB drive, which the motherboard BIOS
detects just fine. When I boot from disk 1 for the FreeBSD install, it
detects no hard drive.

I've put in an Addonics ADSA2 PCI SATA card, which sports the SiL
1352A chipset, but the install blows up when installing to a 74GB
Seagate drive - the kernel panics and it reboots while copying files
to disk.

Has anyone run into these problems? Google hasn't been particularly my
friend on this one.

I've tried reading the install docs on the CD, with no particular
luck, but I could be missing something.


Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know the 
Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues with these 
chips and FreeBSD!


Can you find a regular IDE drive to plug into that motherboard?

-Derek


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Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-09 Thread Kurt Buff

On 7/9/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At 03:43 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

I've got a machine with 2GB of RAM, onto which I can install Windows
 XP with no issues.

 However, FreeBSD 6.2 Release is giving me fits on this machine. If any
 of you have insight, I'd surely appreciate you sharing

 The motherboard is an Intel D645 GEBV2. I've tried a couple of
 different disk arrangements, with no success.

 I've installed an IDE WD 180GB drive, which the motherboard BIOS
 detects just fine. When I boot from disk 1 for the FreeBSD install, it
 detects no hard drive.

 I've put in an Addonics ADSA2 PCI SATA card, which sports the SiL
 1352A chipset, but the install blows up when installing to a 74GB
 Seagate drive - the kernel panics and it reboots while copying files
 to disk.

 Has anyone run into these problems? Google hasn't been particularly my
 friend on this one.

 I've tried reading the install docs on the CD, with no particular
 luck, but I could be missing something.
 Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know the
Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues with these
chips and FreeBSD!

 Can you find a regular IDE drive to plug into that motherboard?

 -Derek


Plugging an IDE drive into the motherboard is the first thing I did -
that's the case above where FreeBSD didn't see *any* HD. That's the
one that really fries my brain, because the motherboard BIOS detects
it correctly, and XP installs to it just fine.
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Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-09 Thread Derek Ragona

At 04:20 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

On 7/9/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At 03:43 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

I've got a machine with 2GB of RAM, onto which I can install Windows
 XP with no issues.

 However, FreeBSD 6.2 Release is giving me fits on this machine. If any
 of you have insight, I'd surely appreciate you sharing

 The motherboard is an Intel D645 GEBV2. I've tried a couple of
 different disk arrangements, with no success.

 I've installed an IDE WD 180GB drive, which the motherboard BIOS
 detects just fine. When I boot from disk 1 for the FreeBSD install, it
 detects no hard drive.

 I've put in an Addonics ADSA2 PCI SATA card, which sports the SiL
 1352A chipset, but the install blows up when installing to a 74GB
 Seagate drive - the kernel panics and it reboots while copying files
 to disk.

 Has anyone run into these problems? Google hasn't been particularly my
 friend on this one.

 I've tried reading the install docs on the CD, with no particular
 luck, but I could be missing something.
 Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know the
Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues with these
chips and FreeBSD!

 Can you find a regular IDE drive to plug into that motherboard?

 -Derek


Plugging an IDE drive into the motherboard is the first thing I did -
that's the case above where FreeBSD didn't see *any* HD. That's the
one that really fries my brain, because the motherboard BIOS detects
it correctly, and XP installs to it just fine.


Any possibility the IDE master/slave jumper is not set right on that drive?

On some intel MB's it takes a reboot into setup so that setup see's the 
hard drive, then check that it has that hard drive in the boot order.  I 
know this seems a bit simple, but just trying to check all 
possibilities.  I've never seen a problem with a standard IDE drive 
installation.  After you had XP on the drive did you reformat the drive to 
clear it out?


-Derek

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Re: Installation woes with 6.2 release

2007-07-09 Thread Kurt Buff

On 7/9/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At 04:20 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

On 7/9/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  At 03:43 PM 7/9/2007, Kurt Buff wrote:

 I've got a machine with 2GB of RAM, onto which I can install Windows
  XP with no issues.

  However, FreeBSD 6.2 Release is giving me fits on this machine. If any
  of you have insight, I'd surely appreciate you sharing

  The motherboard is an Intel D645 GEBV2. I've tried a couple of
  different disk arrangements, with no success.

  I've installed an IDE WD 180GB drive, which the motherboard BIOS
  detects just fine. When I boot from disk 1 for the FreeBSD install, it
  detects no hard drive.

  I've put in an Addonics ADSA2 PCI SATA card, which sports the SiL
  1352A chipset, but the install blows up when installing to a 74GB
  Seagate drive - the kernel panics and it reboots while copying files
  to disk.

  Has anyone run into these problems? Google hasn't been particularly my
  friend on this one.

  I've tried reading the install docs on the CD, with no particular
  luck, but I could be missing something.
  Clearly you have a disk controller compatibility problem.  I do know the
 Sil chips are terrible, and there is a long history of issues with these
 chips and FreeBSD!

  Can you find a regular IDE drive to plug into that motherboard?

  -Derek
 Plugging an IDE drive into the motherboard is the first thing I did -
 that's the case above where FreeBSD didn't see *any* HD. That's the
 one that really fries my brain, because the motherboard BIOS detects
 it correctly, and XP installs to it just fine.
 Any possibility the IDE master/slave jumper is not set right on that drive?

 On some intel MB's it takes a reboot into setup so that setup see's the
hard drive, then check that it has that hard drive in the boot order.  I
know this seems a bit simple, but just trying to check all possibilities.
I've never seen a problem with a standard IDE drive installation.  After you
had XP on the drive did you reformat the drive to clear it out?

 -Derek


I think I'll go beat my lackey again.

He was supposed to remove the jumper, and didn't do it.

I took it off, and it's installing happily to the IDE drive.

I'm gonna bag the SATA for now.

Thanks for your help,

Kurt
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