Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-07 Thread Chris Rees
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:12, Chris Rees wrote: Can no-one can come up with a reply either quoting a mailing list or giving the circumstances when: a) Background fsck caused data CORRUPTION _and_ b) A foreground fsck would not have done the same ? 2009/4/6 Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org:

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-07 Thread Doug Hardie
On Apr 7, 2009, at 02:34, Chris Rees wrote: \ So, the answer is NO, it does NOT cause data CORRUPTION. A simple reboot solved it? Really, you're advocating guaranteed extended downtime every time there's a power outage, compared with a slight chance of a slightly longer downtime while every

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Rees
2009/4/6 Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk: On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:40:52 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de: Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote:   2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:     IMHO this

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-06 Thread Doug Hardie
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:12, Chris Rees wrote: Can no-one can come up with a reply either quoting a mailing list or giving the circumstances when: a) Background fsck caused data CORRUPTION _and_ b) A foreground fsck would not have done the same ? Yes. When background FSCK first became

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-05 Thread Chris Rees
2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de: Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote:   2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:     IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all     Why? Google background fsck damage. I was bitten by it myself, and I also

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-05 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/4/5 Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com: 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de: Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote:   2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:     IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all     Why? Google background fsck damage.

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-04-05 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:40:52 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/3/31 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de: Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote:   2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:     IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all    

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 08:05:11 manish jain wrote: I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I would to carry over from my Linux days is to force an fsck on all filesystems at system startup. On Linux, this was simply a matter of editing

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Rudy
manish jain wrote: Hi, I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I would to carry over from my Linux days is to force an fsck on all filesystems at system startup. On Linux, this was simply a matter of editing /etc/rc.sysinit. Things seem a bit

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:35:11 +0530 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I would to carry over from my Linux days is to force an fsck on all filesystems at system startup. On Linux, this was

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i don't know why you do want to FORCE it every boot. in FreeBSD it's not needed. but you may add background_fsck=NO to check filesystems at boot when needed, not delayed. IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all ___

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Daniel Marsh
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:01:37 +0800, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:35:11 +0530 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I would to carry over from my Linux days is to

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Rees
2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all Why? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread manish jain
Bruce Cran wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:35:11 +0530 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I would to carry over from my Linux days is to force an fsck on all filesystems at system startup. On

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Rees
2009/3/31 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com: BTW, a lot of people who posted replies thought I was not aware that a preen is always executed at startup. When I said I wanted to force an fsck, I meant 'fsck -fy'. As for background checks, they are - in my opinion - a real nightmare. Even

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread RW
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:15:54 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009 08:05:11 manish jain wrote: I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I would to carry over from my Linux days is to

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread RW
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:00:18 +0530 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: As for the reason why I want to force fsck is that it has now happened 3 timed that, after a clean and proper shutdown - with no foreign filesystems mounted, FreeBSD has complained on system restart (twice on a

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Rees
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:00:18 +0530 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Having bgfsck enabled is like inviting a dragon to dinner when this happens. 2009/3/31 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com: If you've done a normal install, soft-updates aren't enabled on /, so it will get foreground

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 04:04:53PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:00:18 +0530 manish jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote: Having bgfsck enabled is like inviting a dragon to dinner when this happens. 2009/3/31 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com: If you've done a normal

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 14:24:11 RW wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:15:54 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009 08:05:11 manish jain wrote: I am migrating from Linux and am still learning the basics of FreeBSD. One thing that I

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Oliver Fromme
Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/3/31 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: IMHO this background fsck isn't good idea at all Why? Google background fsck damage. I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn background fsck off. If your disks are

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:57:21 +0200 (CEST), Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: Google background fsck damage. I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn background fsck off. If your disks are large and you can't afford the fsck time, consider using ZFS, which has a

Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime

2009-03-31 Thread RW
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:36:32 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009 14:24:11 RW wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:15:54 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: somebody please point me in the right direction ?