Re: RELENG_5 installworld fails

2005-02-26 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 26 February 2005 04:10 am, Velko Ivanov wrote:
> > So, you need to supply more info. Are you setting any special
> > parameters in /etc/make.conf? Did you follow UPDATING as far as the
> > sequence of buildworld, [build/install]kernel, boot to single user
> > mode and do the installworld? Before this build, when did you last
> > update your system?
>
> This points to /etc/make.conf:
> CPUTYPE=p3
> CFLAGS= -O -pipe -msse -mmmx
> COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe -msse -mmmx
>
> NO_BIND=true
> BOOTWAIT=0
>
> It is a dual PIII Xeon, 5.3-RELEASE freshly installed - installing
> cvsup and updating to RELENG_5 was the first thing I did.
> The procedure in UPDATING is followed strictly.

Some people don't follow it and strange things happen. FWIW, my upgrade 
worked as expected.

> I have done many installations on different machines and never had
> trouble with optimizations in make.conf (except when I specified the
> wrong CPU once :)).
> I just can't link problems with GCC optimization flags, to the fact
> that the path to uuencode is not set in a Makefile in some directory.
> I was just curious, thanks for the reply.

You never know but when something strange pops up. If you aren't using 
the defaults, killing the CPU and FLAGS are a place to start. It is too 
easy to add the "#" and then delete if nothing changes. For example, my 
5-stable is an athlon-xp and somewhere in time, I commented the CPU 
out. The default FLAGS is "-O -pipe" and so, I don't supply them 
either. 

I have been going to try and find what the boot parameter is. The delay 
at the start is not needed.

Kent

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Re: RELENG_5 installworld fails

2005-02-26 Thread Velko Ivanov
So, you need to supply more info. Are you setting any special parameters 
in /etc/make.conf? Did you follow UPDATING as far as the sequence of 
buildworld, [build/install]kernel, boot to single user mode and do the 
installworld? Before this build, when did you last update your system?

This points to /etc/make.conf:
CPUTYPE=p3
CFLAGS= -O -pipe -msse -mmmx
COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe -msse -mmmx
NO_BIND=true
BOOTWAIT=0
It is a dual PIII Xeon, 5.3-RELEASE freshly installed - installing cvsup 
and updating to RELENG_5 was the first thing I did.
The procedure in UPDATING is followed strictly.
I have done many installations on different machines and never had 
trouble with optimizations in make.conf (except when I specified the 
wrong CPU once :)).
I just can't link problems with GCC optimization flags, to the fact that 
the path to uuencode is not set in a Makefile in some directory.
I was just curious, thanks for the reply.

Regards,
Velko Ivanov
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Re: RELENG_5 installworld fails

2005-02-25 Thread Kent Stewart
On Friday 25 February 2005 11:46 am, Velko Ivanov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> a freshly cvsup-ed to RELENG_5 i386 machine failed during 'make
> installworld' today with reason 'uuencode: can not find uuencode' in
> the share/syscons/scrnmaps directory.
> I changed the Makefile in /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps, specifying
> the absolute path to the uuencode executable -
> /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/uuencode/uuencode and the installation
> finished without errors.
> I'm not very familiar with the build system, so I'm wondering if I
> did some mistake to get this error, and can I expect the system to
> work well after my intervention, or is it better to cvsup again and
> reinstall? If I get to this, I will cvsup to RELENG_5_3, I wouldn't
> update to RELENG_5 if I knew it was 5.4-PRERELEASE - my mistake.
>

Nothing has changed in those specific areas since 2/11 and I have 
successful builds on 2/11 and 2/24. A current cvsup also shows no 
changes. That makes it look like an error on your end. I log my cvsup 
runs and then convert it into HTML. That lets me browse the changes 
back to cvsweb.cgi.

So, you need to supply more info. Are you setting any special parameters 
in /etc/make.conf? Did you follow UPDATING as far as the sequence of 
buildworld, [build/install]kernel, boot to single user mode and do the 
installworld? Before this build, when did you last update your system?

Since I have done the cvsup of src-all, I am going to update my system 
but on 5-stable that takes awhile :). There were a number of changes 
and I might as well get up todate again.

Look at what you have done and see if there may be areas that affect the 
builds and installs. Since you got it to install, another go at the 
whole process may produce a update that doesn't error off.

Kent

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Re: RELENG_5: KDE upgrade Catch-22

2004-09-17 Thread Mark Ovens
Michael Nottebrock wrote:
On Friday 17 September 2004 21:14, Mark Ovens wrote:
Hmmm, if I delete XFree86-libraries then X won't run, and without
libXinerama.so.1 KDE won't run  :-/
Anyone have a solution to this conundrum please?
Yes: Update all of XFree86 to the latest version in ports (4.4).
XFree86-libraries does contain libXinerama.so.1. The real conundrum is how you 
ended up with a system like this.  I can make a few guesses: You upgraded KDE
via packages
Running ''portupgrade -PPRa'' I guess. I had been having problems caused 
by the compiler changes and read in this list, or -questions, an answer 
to a question about the same problem where the advice was to u/g all 
your ports via packages (or uninstall them all and rebuild from ports).

portupgrade(1) skipped XFree86.
 - that KDE has been built against xorg (which is the default X
distribution for 5.3 and contains libXinerama.so.1, while XFree86-4.3 only 
contains a libXinerama.a).

Are you saying the KDE packages are built against xorg? I guess that 
explains all the dependencies on xorg that I kept having to delete using 
''pkgdb -F''. Is that the real reason KDE won't run? Would switching to 
xorg be the best solution in the long run then (now is the time for me 
to do it if it is)? I guess that would mean rebuilding all my X apps 
that weren't installed from packages.

Thanks for the quick and detailed reply.
Regards,
Mark
Or maybe you compiled KDE yourself - against Xorg or XFree86-4.4 and then 
downgraded to XFree86-4.3?


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Re: RELENG_5 ?

2003-07-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I have been using FreeBSD in production enviroments so I used FreeBSD 4.7 
> and 4.8.
> Now, I have installed FreeBSD 5.1 on my laptop. 
> So I decided to keep track of the -RELEASE_5 (STABLE). But It seems that 
> there is not such a branch on the repository.
> Reading diferent links at freebsd.org. It seems that there is only two 
> branchs for 5.1:
> 
>   -CURRENT
>   -RELENG_5_1
> 
> The first one, I think can be a very agresive for my intentions. The second 
> one, instead, will not modify my sources to improve the performace because 
> it is a patch branch.
> 
> If I am not wrong with this, what will be the reason to install 5.1 instead
> of 4.8?  I mean, 5.1 has more features but a worst performace that 4.8. 


You seem to give the answer to this question right within the question.
The reason to run 5.1 is if you want to try out the new features and be
a part of the development in some way.   The reason to stick with 4.8 is
if you want a high performance system/server running right now.  If you
choose 5.1, you will have to be willing to accept its present limited 
status.  It seems to be getting close, but it ain't ready to be a 
supported "stable branch" yet.  The documentation says this quite clearly.

jerry
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: RELENG_5 ?

2003-07-21 Thread oremanj
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:41:55AM +0200, David Rio wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:27:21PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:18:40AM +0200, David Rio wrote:
> > > Hi all:
> > > 
> > > I have been using FreeBSD in production enviroments so I used FreeBSD 4.7 and 
> > > 4.8.
> > > Now, I have installed FreeBSD 5.1 on my laptop. 
> > > So I decided to keep track of the -RELEASE_5 (STABLE). But It seems that there 
> > > is 
> > > not such a branch on the repository.
> > > Reading diferent links at freebsd.org. It seems that there is only to branchs 
> > > for 
> > > 5.1:
> > > 
> > >   -CURRENT
> > >   -RELENG_5_1
> > > 
> > > The first one, I think can be a very agresive for my intentions. The second one,
> > > instead, will not modify my sources to improve the performace because it is a 
> > > patch branch.
> > > 
> > > If I am not wrong with this, what will be the reason to install 5.1 instead 4.8?
> > > I mean, 5.1 has more features but a worst performace that 4.8. On the other hand,
> > > there is no -STABLE branch of 5.1 so the only way to keep you system up to date
> > > is follow the -CURRENT branch which is a little agresive in my case.
> > 
> > Right now, -CURRENT is pretty "stable", since there is no 5-STABLE yet. That branch
> > will probably be branched around 5.2-RELEASE.
> > 
> > So track -CURRENT until -STABLE is branched.
> > 
> > -- Josh
> > 
> 
> 
> Is there any reason why -CURRENT 5.1 is more stable than -CURRENT 4.8?

There is no such thing as -CURRENT 4.8. Read the link someone posted earlier, please.

-- Josh
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Re: RELENG_5 ?

2003-07-21 Thread Matthew Graybosch
On Monday 21 July 2003 06:18 pm, David Rio wrote:

> If I am not wrong with this, what will be the reason to install 5.1
> instead 4.8? I mean, 5.1 has more features but a worst performace
> that 4.8. On the other hand, there is no -STABLE branch of 5.1 so
> the only way to keep you system up to date is follow the -CURRENT
> branch which is a little agresive in my case.

Did you tune your installation? I found that after enabling SSE in my 
kernel and modifying /boot/loader.conf to enable DMA on IDE and ATAPI 
devices that 5.1 runs like a bat out of Hell. Only when playing DVDs 
with mplayer do I get slowdown, and it's my fault for using an 
ancient video card.

There isn't a -STABLE branch for 5.1 yet because the maintainers don't 
think 5.1 is ready for it. Be patient.

-- 
Matthew Graybosch
http://www.starbreaker.net
"I am become root, shatterer of kernels."

PS: If you want, I'll send copies of my kernel config and 
/boot/loader.conf.

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Re: RELENG_5 ?

2003-07-21 Thread Torben Brosten
Hi David,

You might want to look at the "FreeBSD-CURRENT vs. FreeBSD-STABLE" page which 
discusses the differences between stable and current.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html

cheers,

Torben

David Rio wrote:
Hi all:

I have been using FreeBSD in production enviroments so I used FreeBSD 4.7 and 4.8.
Now, I have installed FreeBSD 5.1 on my laptop. 
So I decided to keep track of the -RELEASE_5 (STABLE). But It seems that there is 
not such a branch on the repository.
Reading diferent links at freebsd.org. It seems that there is only to branchs for 
5.1:

-CURRENT
-RELENG_5_1
The first one, I think can be a very agresive for my intentions. The second one,
instead, will not modify my sources to improve the performace because it is a 
patch branch.

If I am not wrong with this, what will be the reason to install 5.1 instead 4.8?
I mean, 5.1 has more features but a worst performace that 4.8. On the other hand,
there is no -STABLE branch of 5.1 so the only way to keep you system up to date
is follow the -CURRENT branch which is a little agresive in my case.
Thanks in advance.

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