Re: SATA300

2008-07-29 Thread Lokadamus

Jason Lenthe wrote:
My machine, a home-brew running 7.0-RELEASE-p2, has 3 SATA hard drives 
all of which were advertised as SATA300 drives, but:


vader# dmesg | grep ATA
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
atapci1: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 
0x20c8-0x20cf,0x20ec-0x20ef,0x20c0-0x20c7,0x20e8-0x20eb,0x20a0-0x20af 
irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0

ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci1
ad4: 305245MB Hitachi HDT725032VLA360 V54OA7EA at ata2-master SATA150
ad5: 476940MB MAXTOR STM3500630AS 3.AAE at ata2-slave SATA150
ad6: 305245MB Hitachi HDT725032VLA360 V54OA7EA at ata3-master SATA150

Does this mean I'm only getting half the throughput I could be getting?

Thanks,
Jason
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Re: SATA300

2008-07-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

ad5: 476940MB MAXTOR STM3500630AS 3.AAE at ata2-slave SATA150
ad6: 305245MB Hitachi HDT725032VLA360 V54OA7EA at ata3-master SATA150

Does this mean I'm only getting half the throughput I could be getting?

still more that actually drive can get from media (about 100MB/s)
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Re: SATA300

2008-07-26 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:22:26PM -0400, Jason Lenthe wrote:
 My machine, a home-brew running 7.0-RELEASE-p2, has 3 SATA hard drives 
 all of which were advertised as SATA300 drives, but:
 
 vader# dmesg | grep ATA
 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
 atapci1: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 
 0x20c8-0x20cf,0x20ec-0x20ef,0x20c0-0x20c7,0x20e8-0x20eb,0x20a0-0x20af 
 irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
 ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
 ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci1
 ad4: 305245MB Hitachi HDT725032VLA360 V54OA7EA at ata2-master SATA150
 ad5: 476940MB MAXTOR STM3500630AS 3.AAE at ata2-slave SATA150
 ad6: 305245MB Hitachi HDT725032VLA360 V54OA7EA at ata3-master SATA150
 
 Does this mean I'm only getting half the throughput I could be getting?

Considering that the fastest SATA drives available today tops out at a
throughput of about 120MB/s (and most are quite a bit slower), I would say
that any speed loss from running at SATA150 speed instead of SATA300 will be
fairly minor and probably not even noticable.


Many SATA hard drives have a jumper that can be used to limit them to
SATA150 speeds.  It is often set by default, since some older SATA
controllers fail to auto-negotiate speed correctly, so the drive must
be running at SATA150 to work with those controllers.
See if you drives have such a jumper set.  If so try removing it.



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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:02:55 -0500 Derrick T. Woolworth wrote:

 Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?  I've been
 trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any luck.  Using a MSI

I have an nForce4 built-in card on amd64 motherboard and use it as a
testing machine with 6.1-STABLE/7.0-CURRENT amd64/i386 worlds.
Everyting is fine so far (crossing fingers).

 K8NGM2-L motherboard and others, but 6.1's installation hangs as soon as it
 sees ad4.  I've also tried using an Adaptec 1210SA controller and had zero
 results.  I've read that the chipset on this controller is not very good -
 forces serialized access to the controller's channels???  Nevertheless, I've
 got a K8N Diamond motherboard on a workstation and I was able to at least
 start the 6.1 installation.  I have no idea if its stable.  At this point,
 I'd settle for just knowing which SATA300 controller to use that will work
 successfully and well with FreeBSD 6.0 OR 6.1.  Another question, would I
 have more success installing 6.0 and then upgrading the kernel and
 recompiling with a build-world?

 I'm currently trying to build a moderate large system with 4 presentation
 servers, 2 database servers and one large storage system using NFS mapped to
 ~1.2 terrabyte of SATA disks (4x Maxtor 500GB 7200 RPM disks w/RAID5
 config).  Any suggestions?


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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Chuck Swiger

Derrick T. Woolworth wrote:

Hello all,

Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...


We'll survive, but for future reference it's almost never appropriate to 
cross-post between freebsd-questions and other FreeBSD lists.



Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1? [ ... ]
I've got a K8N Diamond motherboard on a workstation and I was able to at least
start the 6.1 installation.


I've got a K8N Diamond board as well, and FreeBSD 6.0  6.1 seems to work just 
fine with either the nVidia integrated 4-channel SATA controller, and with the 
SilImage 3132 2-channel SATA controller.  Note that I've only tested 
single-drive operation, though-- I haven't had the need to set up RAID on this 
one yet...


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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Alain Hebert

   Hi,

   I've been having the same issues.

   The conclusion of my testing is that type of card (aka Adaptec 
1210SA, Promise PDC2* ) are not stable, reliable, performant.

   (For my taste btw)

   The underlying technology is just mickey mouse:

  They store the config on drive (ok);
  They dont accelerate mirror that much. (mirror function in driver);
  If you loose a drive your filesystem jam (since the mirror 
function is in the driver);

  You have to rebuilt via the bios (long downtime).

   The best card are the 3ware 9000/9500 series.  Which is a real hard 
implementation.


   FYI: I have both success with Marvell 88SX5041 SATA150 and Promise 
PDC20378 SATA150.


   I had major failure under load with Adaptec 1210SA and Promise TX2300.

   Good luck.

Derrick T. Woolworth wrote:


Hello all,

Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...

Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?  
I've been
trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any luck.  Using 
a MSI
K8NGM2-L motherboard and others, but 6.1's installation hangs as soon 
as it
sees ad4.  I've also tried using an Adaptec 1210SA controller and had 
zero
results.  I've read that the chipset on this controller is not very 
good -
forces serialized access to the controller's channels???  
Nevertheless, I've

got a K8N Diamond motherboard on a workstation and I was able to at least
start the 6.1 installation.  I have no idea if its stable.  At this 
point,
I'd settle for just knowing which SATA300 controller to use that 
will work
successfully and well with FreeBSD 6.0 OR 6.1.  Another question, 
would I

have more success installing 6.0 and then upgrading the kernel and
recompiling with a build-world?

I'm currently trying to build a moderate large system with 4 presentation
servers, 2 database servers and one large storage system using NFS 
mapped to

~1.2 terrabyte of SATA disks (4x Maxtor 500GB 7200 RPM disks w/RAID5
config).  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Derrick
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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:02:55PM -0500, Derrick T. Woolworth wrote..
 Hello all,
 
 Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...
 
 Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?  I've been
 trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any luck.  Using a MSI
 K8NGM2-L motherboard and others, but 6.1's installation hangs as soon as it
 sees ad4.  I've also tried using an Adaptec 1210SA controller and had zero

Well, just as a datapoint this works fine for me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~: dmesg|grep -i Prom
atapci0: Promise PDC20771 SATA300 controller port
0xd480-0xd4ff,0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xf7ff6000-0xf7ff6fff,0xf7fa-0xf7fb
irq 21 at device 13.0 on pci2
ar0: 238475MB Promise Fasttrak RAID1 status: READY
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~: uname -a
FreeBSD freebie.xs4all.nl 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #2: Wed Jun 14
22:01:33 CEST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBIE
i386

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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Scott Long

Wilko Bulte wrote:

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:02:55PM -0500, Derrick T. Woolworth wrote..


Hello all,

Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...

Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?  I've been
trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any luck.  Using a MSI
K8NGM2-L motherboard and others, but 6.1's installation hangs as soon as it
sees ad4.  I've also tried using an Adaptec 1210SA controller and had zero



Well, just as a datapoint this works fine for me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~: dmesg|grep -i Prom
atapci0: Promise PDC20771 SATA300 controller port
0xd480-0xd4ff,0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xf7ff6000-0xf7ff6fff,0xf7fa-0xf7fb
irq 21 at device 13.0 on pci2
ar0: 238475MB Promise Fasttrak RAID1 status: READY
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~: uname -a
FreeBSD freebie.xs4all.nl 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #2: Wed Jun 14
22:01:33 CEST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBIE
i386



Promise has a good relationship with FreeBSD, I would expect their 
controllers to work pretty well.


Scott

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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Jakubik

Derrick T. Woolworth wrote:

Hello all,

Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...

Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?  
I've been
trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any luck.  Using 
a MSI


Yes, this chipset works well for me.

---
atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 
0x3040-0x3047,0x3034-0x3037,0x3038-0x303f,0x3030-0x3033,0x3020-0x302f 
mem 0xed00-0xed0003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0

ad4: 152627MB Seagate ST3160812AS 3.AAE at ata2-master SATA300
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm created (id=1306182778).
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm: provider ad4 detected.
ad6: 152627MB Seagate ST3160812AS 3.AAE at ata3-master SATA300
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm: provider ad6 detected.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm: provider ad6 activated.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm: provider ad4 activated.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm: provider mirror/gm launched.
---

For a simple RAID such as mirroring, i strongly suggest you stay away 
from cheap/onboard RAID solutions, and use gmirror instead.



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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 03:26:17PM -0600, Scott Long wrote..
 Wilko Bulte wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:02:55PM -0500, Derrick T. Woolworth wrote..
 
 Hello all,
 
 Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...
 
 Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?  I've 
 been
 trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any luck.  Using a 
 MSI
 K8NGM2-L motherboard and others, but 6.1's installation hangs as soon as 
 it
 sees ad4.  I've also tried using an Adaptec 1210SA controller and had zero
 
 
 Well, just as a datapoint this works fine for me:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~: dmesg|grep -i Prom
 atapci0: Promise PDC20771 SATA300 controller port
 0xd480-0xd4ff,0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xf7ff6000-0xf7ff6fff,0xf7fa-0xf7fb
 irq 21 at device 13.0 on pci2
 ar0: 238475MB Promise Fasttrak RAID1 status: READY
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~: uname -a
 FreeBSD freebie.xs4all.nl 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #2: Wed Jun 14
 22:01:33 CEST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBIE
 i386
 
 
 Promise has a good relationship with FreeBSD, I would expect their 
 controllers to work pretty well.

Yup.  I cleared this TX2200 (IIRC) card with Soren first before I ordered
it.  It only has SATA150 disks connected to it though, I do not own
SATA300 drives.  All in all the whole thing works fine for me.

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Re: SATA300 Controllers

2006-07-05 Thread Mike Horwath
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:02:55PM -0500, Derrick T. Woolworth wrote:
 Sorry for cross-posting, but these issues seem relevant for lists...

That's okay, I am not on all and I'll create some bounces, I am sure.

 Has anyone had success with SATA300 controllers with FreeBSD 6.1?
 I've been trying Promise and nVidia nForce4 and I'm not having any
 luck.  Using a MSI K8NGM2-L motherboard and others, but 6.1's
 installation hangs as soon as it sees ad4.  I've also tried using an
 Adaptec 1210SA controller and had zero results.  I've read that the
 chipset on this controller is not very good - forces serialized
 access to the controller's channels???  Nevertheless, I've got a K8N
 Diamond motherboard on a workstation and I was able to at least
 start the 6.1 installation.  I have no idea if its stable.  At
 this point, I'd settle for just knowing which SATA300 controller
 to use that will work successfully and well with FreeBSD 6.0 OR
 6.1.  Another question, would I have more success installing 6.0 and
 then upgrading the kernel and recompiling with a build-world?

I am running 6.0 and 6.1 systems (-STABLE) with both ARECA 12xx cards
and 3WARE/AMCC 9550SX cards.

Neither are cheap, but they are doing the job and are in use in binary
spoolers for news.

 I'm currently trying to build a moderate large system with 4 presentation
 servers, 2 database servers and one large storage system using NFS mapped to
 ~1.2 terrabyte of SATA disks (4x Maxtor 500GB 7200 RPM disks w/RAID5
 config).  Any suggestions?

Up the # of spindles? :)

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