Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...

2006-08-01 Thread User Freebsd

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Christian Brueffer wrote:


On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote:


I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most
ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches
...

Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported
platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a
suitable replacement for the card ...

So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with?  Its a remote
server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot
that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server
afterwards ...



I contacted Achim Leubner not long ago, about wheather he still
maintains and supports the iir(4) driver, as claimed in the SEE ALSO
section of the manpage.  His answer was yes.


I email'd him several weeks back, as soon as it was determined that the 
problem I've been experiencing with the deadlocks looked to be iir 
related, and didn't hear anything back :(



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Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...

2006-08-01 Thread User Freebsd

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:


Hi!

On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote:


Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported
platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a
suitable replacement for the card ...


That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me
the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they
were working on full FreeBSD support.


Great, that definitely wasn't the feel that I got from them ... I've been 
using Adaptec products since early 90's, mainly because they have always 
been the 'tried-n-true' product ...


As I mentioned to someone else, I'm willing to endure having the server 
hang up a few times in order to debug the problem, and fix the driver, but 
any correspondance that I actually got answers back on gave me the feel 
that I was on my own ... my previous email to this was meant to warn 
others to think twice, especially with newer FreeBSD boxes, about going 
with anything that runs on the iir(4) driver ...



 
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Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...

2006-08-01 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hello!

On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:51:59AM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:

> That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me
> the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they
> were working on full FreeBSD support. I'll check what they have
> to say about the GDT controllers.

OK - so here's the deal:

The GDT products are officially EOE (End Of Engineering).
ICP Vortex will not provide capacity to update their own
driver for FreeBSD 6.

The new products will feature full FreeBSD support, eventually.
(couple of weeks, he said)

Technically, the ICP guy was quite confident, that ICP's
own driver for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x didn't show the problems
we have on FreeBSD 6 with the FreeBSD iir driver.
He recommended using ICP's driver source as a reference when
trying to fix the FreeBSD 6 driver.

I'm not a kernel developer so I cannot really comment on this.


HTH,

Patrick M. Hausen
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Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...

2006-08-01 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote:
> 
> I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most 
> ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches 
> ...
> 
> Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported 
> platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a 
> suitable replacement for the card ...
> 
> So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with?  Its a remote 
> server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot 
> that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server 
> afterwards ...
> 

I contacted Achim Leubner not long ago, about wheather he still
maintains and supports the iir(4) driver, as claimed in the SEE ALSO
section of the manpage.  His answer was yes.

That all I know.

- Christian

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Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...

2006-08-01 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi!

On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote:

> Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported 
> platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a 
> suitable replacement for the card ...

That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me
the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they
were working on full FreeBSD support. I'll check what they have
to say about the GDT controllers. We run typo3.org on four
heavily loaded systems with these cards. We did not update to
6.x yet, because of fear of the mythical NFS deadlocks.
Now things seem to get even worse.

> So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with?  Its a remote 
> server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot 
> that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server 
> afterwards ...

We just ordered this box here:

http://www.intel.com/design/servers/storage/ssr212cc/

It contains two Intel SRCS28X RAID Controllers, that are supposedly
supported by the amr driver and the Linux Megamgr utility.

The system should arrive in about two weeks - if you're interested,
I'll keep you updated.

Regards,

Patrick M. Hausen
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Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...

2006-07-31 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 31, 2006, at 7:49 PM, User Freebsd wrote:



I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as  
most ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless  
headaches ...


Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported  
platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure  
out a suitable replacement for the card ...


So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with?  Its a remote  
server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same  
slot that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat  
the server afterwards ...


You may want to consider the LSI MegaRAID cards...  There are various  
ones.  Do you need the low profile format?  Look at the 320-1lp for  
that otehrwise the 320-1 or 320-2x


They have freebsd drivers and a command line management app.

I am looking at this to replace an adaptec 2200s eventually (for  
different reasons than the OP).


I have not used the SCSI LSI MegaRAID cards through I have some of  
their SATA RAID cards.


Chad

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