Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application

2009-04-11 Thread Chris Rees
2009/4/11 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from
 Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this
 forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and
 now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish
 to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the
 purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based
 systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32
 applications.

 However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which
 takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a
 video application. What I looking for is something on these lines :

 1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -
 /dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after
 decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can
 play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs
 partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If
 necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more
 accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso
 images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if
 the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso
 images for its benefit.

 2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it would
 be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play encrypted
 DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread, libdvdcss and
 libdvdplay installed.

 3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio
 playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version
 2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD.

 Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple,
 HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century.

 --
 Thank you and Regards
 Manish Jain
 invalid.poin...@gmail.com
 +91-99830-62246

 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won.


Have you tried vlc for video? I'm sure it's not something you've
completely overlooked, but it's probably worth another.

You seem settled on xmms, have you also tried out musicpd for music?
You can use Sonata as a frontend, very nice to use, or even over HTTP.
It also carries on fine should X crap out :)

Chris


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Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application

2009-04-11 Thread Erik Gustafson
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi all,

 After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from
 Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this
 forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and
 now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish
 to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the
 purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based
 systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32
 applications.

 However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which
 takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a
 video application. What I looking for is something on these lines :

 1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -
 /dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after
 decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can
 play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs
 partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If
 necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more
 accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso
 images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if
 the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso
 images for its benefit.

 2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it
 would be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play
 encrypted DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread,
 libdvdcss and libdvdplay installed.

 3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio
 playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version
 2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD.

 Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple,
 HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century.

Have you tried the ports multimedia/mplayer or multimedia/vlc? I can't live
without mplayer on my desktop and it usually just works on everything i
try to play.
If you want a fancy GUI, search in ports/multimedia for mplayer and you will
find kde-mplayer, gnome-mplayer and friends.
Video playback and tv-out is one big reason why I dont use windows on my
desktop.
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Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Huff

Erik Gustafson writes:

  Have you tried the ports multimedia/mplayer or multimedia/vlc? I
  can't live without mplayer on my desktop and it usually just
  works on everything i try to play.

I use mplayer too, but (as far as I know) the list of supported
codecs hasn't changed in several years.  That's mostly not a
problem, but there are certain file types (.wmvs I have been told
are handled correctly by Windows Media Player 10/11; this may be a
DRM thing) that completely do not play.

  If you want a fancy GUI, search in ports/multimedia for mplayer
  and you will find kde-mplayer, gnome-mplayer and friends.

Mplayer has a gui (gmplayer) but it's pretty minimal.


Robert Huff

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Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application

2009-04-11 Thread Manish Jain

Robert Huff wrote:

Erik Gustafson writes:

  

 Have you tried the ports multimedia/mplayer or multimedia/vlc? I
 can't live without mplayer on my desktop and it usually just
 works on everything i try to play.



I use mplayer too, but (as far as I know) the list of supported
codecs hasn't changed in several years.  That's mostly not a
problem, but there are certain file types (.wmvs I have been told
are handled correctly by Windows Media Player 10/11; this may be a
DRM thing) that completely do not play.

  

 If you want a fancy GUI, search in ports/multimedia for mplayer
 and you will find kde-mplayer, gnome-mplayer and friends.



Mplayer has a gui (gmplayer) but it's pretty minimal.


Robert Huff


  


Hello Robert / Erik,

Thanks a lot. MPlayer certainly seems to come with strong credentials 
and recommendation. I am starting the build straight away. Since I am a 
die-hard gnomer, I'll go for gnome-mplayer as the frontend.


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Re: The Last Frontier : a good multimedia application

2009-04-11 Thread Manish Jain

Chris Rees wrote:

2009/4/11 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com:
  

Hi all,

After weeks of fumbling and struggling, I have made my full transition from
Linux to FreeBSD, thanks in no mean measures to the assistance of this
forum. I've got my FreeBSD 7.1 x86 system set up exactly as I wanted it and
now I am looking to move one step further - and that is one big step. I wish
to get rid of my Windows installation too, which exists purely for the
purpose of multimedia entertainment - one area where I think GNU-based
systems still have some way to go before they catch up with Win32
applications.

However, I am willing to give it a try. I already have xmms set up, which
takes care of the audio part reasonably well. The big hole that remains is a
video application. What I looking for is something on these lines :

1) I hardly ever play movies directly from the CD/DVD drive (/dev/dvd -
/dev/acd0, courtesy devfs.conf). First I copy them to the hard-disk (after
decrypting any DVD's if needed). So I ideally want an application that can
play .dat and unencrypted .vob files directly from a hard disk ntfs
partition without incessently complaining about missing plugins. (If
necessary, I can reformat the ntfs partition as ffs). Actually, to be more
accurate, I don't even have any .vob files. What I have is unencrypted .iso
images of the DVD's, which I guess I will need to mount via mdconfig. But if
the application strictly needs .vob files, I'll extract them from the iso
images for its benefit.

2) Since my DVD drive is capable of reading DVD's from all regions, it would
be great if the application could also, if needed, directly play encrypted
DVD's from the drive itself. I have libdvdnav, libdvdread, libdvdcss and
libdvdplay installed.

3) The final point to be considered is the quality of the video/audio
playback compared to, say, PowerDVD on Windows - which I have used (version
2.55) with absolute delight and satisfaction since I purchased my first DVD.

Any tips/input would be greatly appreciated. To keep the discussion simple,
HD/Blu-Ray are not in my plans for the current century.

--
Thank you and Regards
Manish Jain
invalid.poin...@gmail.com
+91-99830-62246

NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won.




Have you tried vlc for video? I'm sure it's not something you've
completely overlooked, but it's probably worth another.

You seem settled on xmms, have you also tried out musicpd for music?
You can use Sonata as a frontend, very nice to use, or even over HTTP.
It also carries on fine should X crap out :)

Chris


  


Hello Chris,

Thanks for the input. I certainly am not settled on xmms. It's the only 
one I was aware of so far. Further to that, I WAS actually for something 
that could do without X, because I work a lot on the console. I'll start 
the musicpd build right away.


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