Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-10 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:38:46 +0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > Dear All, > > It looks like I'm able to recover all of the deleted files. > I'm using UFS Explorer Professional Recovery, I'm working on it > for more than 30 hours, its a long time but it works! If recovery works, time does not matter

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-10 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Dear All, It looks like I'm able to recover all of the deleted files. I'm using UFS Explorer Professional Recovery, I'm working on it for more than 30 hours, its a long time but it works! Yaaay! Laci Sent from my mobile. On 2013.09.09., at 0:36, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2013

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 10:46:35AM +0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > Hi, > > By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out > one of the hard drives. I had a little rsync script which I used to > synchronise a directory between those two hard drives, because one of the >

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:39:08 +0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > Hi Frank, > > Thank you very much for the information! > Meanwhile I've found this software: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/, I'm going to > give a try. That program was on my "famous list of recovery tools for futile attempts". :-) I may

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Thanks Graeme, Also my vga card is broken, probably tomorrow I'm getting a new one and I can give a try. On 2013 September 8 Sunday at 6:16 PM, Graeme Dargie wrote: > Assuming the disk has not been written to, then making a full DD image of the > drive is your 1st step, then make a copy o

RE: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Graeme Dargie
Assuming the disk has not been written to, then making a full DD image of the drive is your 1st step, then make a copy of that DD image and store it somewhere safe in case something goes wrong with the one you are working on. You can try Foremost which can recover data even deleted stuff from a

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 08/09/2013 10:39, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: On 2013.09.08., at 11:07, Frank Leonhardt > wrote: On 08/09/2013 09:46, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: Hi, By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out one of the hard drives. I had a little rsyn

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Laszlo Danielisz
Hi Frank, Thank you very much for the information! Meanwhile I've found this software: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/, I'm going to give a try. Regards, Laci Sent from my mobile. On 2013.09.08., at 11:07, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 08/09/2013 09:46, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> By m

Re: ufs recovery

2013-09-08 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 08/09/2013 09:46, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: Hi, By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out one of the hard drives. I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory between those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were not present

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Edward M
On 05/11/2012 05:18 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: I appreciate the time you put into this. It was no problem at all:-) had fun comparing. Now that I'm free and have more time I went over the 3rd edition table of contents and found a few instances that mentions FreeBSD. In chapter "Adding

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:11:48PM -0700, Edward M wrote: > >So far I think I found a few that may make a difference. > According to the "table of contents" in the 4th edition in the > chapter called "Booting and shuting down it >only shows entries for: red hat, HP-UX, AIX, SUSE,Ubuntu. H

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Edward M
On 05/11/2012 12:11 PM, Edward M wrote: So far I think I found a few that may make a difference. According to the "table of contents" in the 4th edition in the chapter called "Booting and shuting down it only shows entries for: red hat, HP-UX, AIX, SUSE,Ubuntu. However in the third editi

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Edward M
On 05/11/2012 10:47 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: Is there something else I should try to find in the index or table of contents that would be in the third edition but not the fourth? Can you give me some examples of the sorts of things you'd expect to find in the table of contents that is lacking in t

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:29:05PM -0700, Edward M wrote: > On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > >Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix& Linux) or > >the 3rd. Please advise. > > i purchased the third edition because I took a look in the 4th > the table of conten

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2012 09:30:37 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky >> wrote: >> >> For your recommendation above, what are the advantages or differences >> >> of slicing the disk versus partitioning on a

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix&  Linux) or >> the 3rd. Please advise. > > >    i purchased the third edition because I took a look  in the 4th the table > of contents >

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-10 Thread Edward M
On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix& Linux) or the 3rd. Please advise. i purchased the third edition because I took a look in the 4th the table of contents and it appears anything FreeBSD related was remove and

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-10 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > [...] > Reading _both_ of McKusick's  "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix System > Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al.  is a good _start_. > I just bought the FreeBSD one only unless there is a reason I should read the older 4.4BSD

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-09 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Wednesday 09 May 2012 20:30:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wednesday 09 May 2012 18:57:06 Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robe

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-09 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 9 May 2012 09:30:37 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > >> For your recommendation above, what are the advantages or differences > >> of slicing the disk versus partitioning on a single slice? > >> > > it could be a misunderstanding. W

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-09 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday 09 May 2012 18:57:06 Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> >> One comment: for 'defensi

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-09 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Wednesday 09 May 2012 18:57:06 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi > > wrote: > >> > > [...] > > >> One comment: for 'defensive' purposes it would be useful to break ad6 up > >> into two slice

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-09 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: >> [...] >> One comment: for 'defensive' purposes it would be useful to break ad6 up >> into two slices, putting 'basejail' in it's own slice.  Then, for production >> use, that slic

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > ... OK. There is this anomaly in your troubled jail. Because I have not been familiar with ezjail so I am learning it now as we go. I will suggest to you some steps by intuition, and you have to judge for both of us how to do it and what's appropriate. Feel fre

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:40 PM, jb wrote: > Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > >> ... >> I have no idea, but cmm-php52-1 is in fact the problematic jail with >> the MySQL problem. > > Could you please include displays of > 1. your troubled machine's >   $ cat /etc/fstab >   Note: you already sho

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > ... > I have no idea, but cmm-php52-1 is in fact the problematic jail with > the MySQL problem. Could you please include displays of 1. your troubled machine's $ cat /etc/fstab Note: you already showed us 'mount' output. 2. your other trouble-free serve

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM, jb wrote: > Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > >> ... >> devfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev (devfs, local, multilabel) >> ... >> /usr/jails/basejail on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/basejail (nullfs, local, >> read-only) >> fdescfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev/fd (fde

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: > > [ megasnip ] > >> > Things to investigate : >> > - When was the last time this box was rebooted normally ? Did it went fine >> > ? >> >> After I moved the jails to the right place I archived the jails with >> ezj

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > ... > devfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev (devfs, local, multilabel) > ... > /usr/jails/basejail on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/basejail (nullfs, local, > read-only) > fdescfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/dev/fd (fdescfs) > procfs on /usr/jails/cmm-php52-1/proc (procfs

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread Robert Bonomi
Alejandro Imass wrote: [ megasnip ] > > Things to investigate : > > - When was the last time this box was rebooted normally ? Did it went fine ? > > After I moved the jails to the right place I archived the jails with > ezjail-admin and rebooted the server several times, and everything > worked

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-03 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Jerome Herman wrote: [...] > I must admit that Robert Bonomi tone was highly insulting for this list, and > though I completely condemn the form of his post, I cannot say I disagree > with the content. > I disagree with both the form and the content and I will te

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:43:43 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 01 May 2012 00:37:51 -0700, Edward M wrote: > > On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > Reading_both_ of McKusick's "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix System > > > Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:43:43 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 01 May 2012 00:37:51 -0700, Edward M wrote: > > On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > Reading_both_ of McKusick's "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix System > > > Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 2 May 2012 06:07:23 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:43:43 Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 01 May 2012 00:37:51 -0700, Edward M wrote: > > > On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > > Reading_both_ of McKusick's "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:58:10AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Reading _both_ of McKusick's "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix System > Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good _start_. "Both"? I'm aware of at least three (FreeBSD, 4.3BSD, and 4.4BSD) that are probably with

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Edward M
On 05/01/2012 06:43 AM, Polytropon wrote: Except buying (good) books, you can also search for articles on the web. For example, "A Fast File System for UNIX" by M. K. McKusick is very interesting (at least it was for me when I lost all my important data). Some fs-related articles here: http://ww

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 01 May 2012 00:37:51 -0700, Edward M wrote: > On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Reading_both_ of McKusick's "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix System > > Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_start_. > > > > Having a bunch of the books from O'Reilley& As

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Edward M
On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Reading_both_ of McKusick's "Design of .." books, and the 'Unix System Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_start_. Having a bunch of the books from O'Reilley& Assoc. (), especially for 'standard' tools that y

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-05-01 Thread Robert Bonomi
Eitan Adler wrote: > On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things. And not > > 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such > > nonsense questions. > > A competent sysadmin would ask questions when they do

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 30 April 2012 22:38:13 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > > A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things. And not > > 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such > > nonsense questions. >

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Jerome Herman
On 30/04/2012 19:23, Eitan Adler wrote: On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things. And not 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such nonsense questions. A competent sysadmin would ask questions when th

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:23:40 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things.  And not > > 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such > > nonsense questions. > > A competent sysadm

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > ... > Thanks for pointing a plausible cause. What I have done so far is > limit the offending jail to a specific cpuset and I wanted to add > another disk to avoid contention with other jails. MySQL not only > consumes the whole CPUs but also limits the whole d

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, jb wrote: > Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > >>... >> If you have really followed the thread, all I have done is try to find >> some explanation for a strange behavior of the system under normal >> use. It hung, and some directories were moved, period. I have p

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Eitan Adler on Monday, 30 April 2012: > On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things.  And not > > 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such > > nonsense questions. > > A competent sysadmin would as

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: >... > If you have really followed the thread, all I have done is try to find > some explanation for a strange behavior of the system under normal > use. It hung, and some directories were moved, period. I have posted > some ideas to share with other people expe

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Edward M
On 04/30/2012 10:22 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: Oh, please! He's not helping anyone. He's just being an obnoxious prick that thinks that by pointing out a lot of technical blabber and some cheap philosophical posé I guess i was going according to the fact that i have followed his suggestions

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things.  And not >> 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such >> nonsense questions. > > A competent sysadmin wou

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Eitan Adler
On 30 April 2012 07:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: > A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would know these things.  And not > 'remove all doubt' (in the words of Abraham Lincoln), by raising such > nonsense questions. A competent sysadmin would ask questions when they don't know the answer bringing up

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 04/30/2012 08:38 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >>  just not very helpful or fun. This attitude will get > > >    He is helping,you need to  learn how UFS, jails, nullfs, journaling, disk > I/O  and other stuff work. >    I have been following t

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday 30 April 2012 18:36:08 Robert Bonomi wrote: >> >> Alejandro Imass wrote: >> That simply *ISN'T* going to happen -- not without a -lot- more evidence >> than any individual can provide from a single =unrepeadable= incident

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Edward M
On 04/30/2012 08:38 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: just not very helpful or fun. This attitude will get He is helping,you need to learn how UFS, jails, nullfs, journaling, disk I/O and other stuff work. I have been following this thread and i must admit I also need to learn more on th

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> > On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote: >> >> Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: >> >> > ... >> [...] > A competennt, "not stupid", sysadmin would

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 30 April 2012 18:36:08 Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: > That simply *ISN'T* going to happen -- not without a -lot- more evidence > than any individual can provide from a single =unrepeadable= incident. > ok, I am not the original poster but let me tell me of an e

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Robert Bonomi
Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote: > >> Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > >> > ... > > Back to theory on how the http-proxy jail 'swallowed' all the other > jails including the basejail. A "theory"

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote: >> Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: >> >> > ... >> > > What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security >> > > cd/dvd >> > > with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run t

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote: > Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > > > ... > > > What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security > > > cd/dvd > > > with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only > > > media. > > > I would also s

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > ... > > What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security > > cd/dvd > > with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only > > media. > > I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages > > invo

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:15 PM, jb wrote: > Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > >> ... >> And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this >> happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they >> were NOT from any of our customers. Here are the log entries

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass p2ee.org> writes: > ... > And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this > happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they > were NOT from any of our customers. Here are the log entries: > > Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: conne

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:26:50 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> > 3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery, >> > fsck or something else >> >> I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was in

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:26:50 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > 3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery, > > fsck or something else > > I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because > it just doesn't do things like that. T

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 29 April 2012 08:58:17 Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky >> wrote: [...] >> >> Hi Erich, thanks for your reply. >> >> I don't know what links you are referring to, but please po

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sunday 29 April 2012 08:58:17 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar > >> wrote: > >> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:26 AM, wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > [...] > > Any chance that your base system -- rather than one of the jails -- > has somehow been cracked; maybe even that the cracker precipitated > the crash?  It might be wise to restore the whole system from backup, > the ba

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >> >> the only one with root acces

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread perryh
Alejandro Imass wrote: > 3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery, > fsck or something else I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because it just doesn't do things like that. It might move an orphaned directory (or file) to lost+found, but nowhere else. T

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Saturday 28 April 2012 20:15:25 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, > >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the > >> /usr/local/etc/apa

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Edward M
On 04/28/2012 11:16 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: That is what worries me, is that it wasn't just some random bit or cosmic ray, but the potential of happening again. I am not so sure that it is*impossible* that a jail could affect other jails with EzJail. Sorry I'm late to the party. How about

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Jerome Herman
On 28/04/2012 19:52, Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Alejandro Imass wrote: After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that under high distress

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:52:02 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi >> wrote: >> > >> > Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi >> >> wrote: >> >> >  Alejandro Ima

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:52:02 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > > > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi > >> wrote: > >> >  Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> >> After a little more research, ___it it NOT

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi >> wrote: >> >  Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that >> >> under high distress and a hard boot, UFS coul

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> After a little more research, ___it it NOT unlikely at all___ that > >> under high distress and a hard boot, UFS could have somehow corrupted > >> the directory structure, whilst m

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: >> >>  Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar >>> wrote: >>> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >>> >>

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >  Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >> >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to t

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, > >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the > >> /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, >> the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the >> /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at the top level. >> I'm thinking somet

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I somewhat agree, but it wasn't a person. I am the only administrator, the only one with root access. The jails were effectively moved to the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the single that survived at the top level. I'm thinking something between mount, EzJail, the journal and the way MySQL created a

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only >> surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails. >> >> Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs >> and the server was on it

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
All the jails wound up in the /usr/local/etc/apache22 of the only surviving jail which is the http proxy to all the other jails. Right before the server crashed I noticed MySQL at 100% o several CPUs and the server was on it's knees, so I'm wondering was this an attack? is it possible that A

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
something. I unmounted the drive and ran fsck and reported no problems. df shows the data being use so where is the data?? your data is here as df shown usage and fsck see no errors. most probably root directory of that volume got corrupted and subdirs were found and put in lost+found ___

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:33:47 Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> > >> > We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one >> > disk and another disc mount

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Saturday 28 April 2012 09:33:47 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one > > disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails, > > pristine base system

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-27 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Hi folks, > > We had a server crash and required a hard reboot. The system is on one > disk and another disc mounts /usr/jails and everything runs in jails, > pristine base system, and the base system is working perfectly. > > The second vo

Re: UFS+SU+J and still background fs check?

2012-01-30 Thread RW
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:17:16 +0100 (CET) Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > When booting my computer today I noticed the message at the end: > starting background filesystem check in 60 seconds. This seems > strange to me since SU+J is enabled on all filesystems. How is this > possible? NB running

Re: UFS journal size

2011-09-21 Thread Doug Poland
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:48:25PM +0300, Ross wrote: > Quoting the manpage: > > -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider is >used for both data and journal. The default is one >gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on

Re: UFS journal size

2011-09-21 Thread Ivan Voras
On 21/09/2011 11:48, Ross wrote: > Quoting the manpage: > > -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider is >used for both data and journal. The default is one >gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on provider's >

Re: UFS journal size

2011-09-21 Thread RW
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:41:08 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/09/2011 10:48, Ross wrote: > > My question is: if I have 4 or 8 GB of RAM should I create 8 or even > > 16 GB journals?.. This seems huge especially if the fs size without > > journal is only 10 gigs. Or the recommended minimum is f

Re: UFS journal size

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/09/2011 10:48, Ross wrote: > Quoting the manpage: > > -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider is >used for both data and journal. The default is one >gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on provider's >

Re: UFS

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 11/08/10 11:01, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > > > In my opinion, the only chance to get back the data would be to plug an > > additional drive, make a huge swap file... > > Knowing that context switching, on such an amount of RAM ... that would

Re: UFS

2010-11-08 Thread Ivan Voras
On 11/08/10 11:01, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > In my opinion, the only chance to get back the data would be to plug an > additional drive, make a huge swap file... > Knowing that context switching, on such an amount of RAM ... that would at > least take days. > > > In doubt: am I missing somethi

Re: UFS Journaling

2010-05-15 Thread Mike Barnard
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:33 PM, b. f. wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm trying out gjournal before I implement if on one server. I require > more > >than 8 partitions, but since I cannot do this, have 9 partitions on one > > You can do this with gpart and a GPT scheme. > > h... I'll dig into this and

Re: UFS Journaling

2010-05-15 Thread b. f.
>Hi, > >I'm trying out gjournal before I implement if on one server. I require more >than 8 partitions, but since I cannot do this, have 9 partitions on one You can do this with gpart and a GPT scheme. >slice, I have created two slices on the disk, da0s1 (100GB) and da0s2 >(40GB). On the first s

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:16:00AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >AFAIK the "danger" is that someone boots the machine with an > >installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the > >disk as unformatted -- hence "obviously" containing nothing > >important -- because it doesn't have

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:28:32PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dangerous is probably overstating the issue a bit ... > > AFAIK the "danger" is that someone boots the machine with an > installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the > disk as unformatted -- hence "obviously" con

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
AFAIK the "danger" is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence "obviously" containing nothing important -- because it doesn't have a recognizable MBR. some people rarely boot other OS :) __

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-05 Thread perryh
> Dangerous is probably overstating the issue a bit ... AFAIK the "danger" is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence "obviously" containing nothing important -- because it doesn't have a recognizable MBR. _

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 03:58:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:49 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:57:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Da Rock writes: > > > > > > > > > Exc

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:49 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:57:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > Da Rock writes: > > > > > > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > > > > > > >

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