Re: Where is the config file?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:27:42AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: > I would like to know where pkg_add keeps its configuration file? I mean > when I execute the command 'pkg_add -r bzip2' how does it know that it > needs to fetch it from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/./packages-4-stable/ > as opposed to packages-4-current? There is no packages-4-current (or 4-CURRENT). See the pkg_add manpage for the list of available options and environment variables that control its behaviour. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where is the config file?
You might want to look at the portupgrade tool in the ports collection. It supports a '-P' flag that tells it to use packages instead of compiling from source. It does an excellent job of handling dependencies (if used correctly), and is very easy to use. It may be better to create a "friendly face" to using portupgrade, rather than creating yet another tool that does the same thing. I am not familiar with apt-get but I believe portupgrade would provide a solid package management engine to whatever interface you choose to build around it. Seeya...Q On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 23:40, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: > The reason I am asking all these questions is that I am exploring the > possibility of of writing an apt-get like application for FreeBSD (call > it apt-pkg). Apt-get was written to help out dpkg in Debian. pkg_add > has a lot more features than dpkg but not the update/upgrade features > of apt-get. So pkg_add simply requires an 'aide' applcation that simply > provides pkg_add information on what to install - kind of a gentler > user interface for pkg_add. > > anyone aware of such a project. Do not want to reinvent the wheel here. > But having used debian for some time, I have come to appreciate the > appeal this has for ne users and users who simply want to install > binaries. > > Thanks for the rseponses. > > -D > > PS: I am thinking of writing it in Python. Good/Bad > > > --- Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:27:42AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: > > > I would like to know where pkg_add keeps its configuration file? I > > mean > > > when I execute the command 'pkg_add -r bzip2' how does it know that > > it > > > needs to fetch it from > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/./packages-4-stable/ > > > as opposed to packages-4-current? > > > > pkg_add works out the path it looks for on the FTP servers from the > > system version number -- there isn't a specific configuration file > > for > > it. You can override the defaults by setting various environment > > variables: PACKAGEROOT, PACKAGESITE as described in the pkg_add(1) > > man > > page. > > > > If you're interested in exactly how pkg_add works out what URL to > > use, > > look at the definition of the 'releases' array near the top of > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c Hmmm... I do believe I can > > see what might be a bijou little buglette there. Seems that there's > > no mention of packages-4.8-release or the impending > > packages-4.9-release. (Checks cvsweb...) Hmmm... Looks like only > > RELENG_4_8 branch gets an indication of where the 4.8-RELEASE > > packages > > are. Makes a certain kind of sense. > > > > > Also, along the same note, I searched through the handbook but > > could > > > not find any information on how to convert a 4-STABLE to a > > 4-CURRENT. I > > > want to only use CURRENT software not update my kernel to CURRENT. > > Is > > > this possible? > > > > Firstly, there's no such thing as 4-CURRENT and there hasn't been for > > several years. Your choices at the moment (other than one of the > > -RELEASE branches) are 4-STABLE or 5-CURRENT. Similarly, there is no > > 5-STABLE just yet: the omens are that it may appear alongside 5.3 > > release. This is documented in > > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html > > > > and > > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/index.html > > > > Using 5-CURRENT is not recommended unless you are of FreeBSD > > developer > > calibre, as it is the bleeding edge and you will need quite a lot of > > code-fu to be able to deal with the fine messes it can get you into. > > You seem to be on 4-STABLE already -- unless you have a pressing > > reason, like you have hardware only supported in 5.x or insatiable > > curiosity, then I'd stick with that. If you must run a 5.x version > > go > > with 5.1-RELEASE which is the best and most recent 5.x code right > > now. > > > > As for upgrading from 4.x-STABLE to 5.x-RELEASE: this can be done by > > compiling the 5.x sources under 4.x, but it is by no means a trivial > > task, and there are various new features (like UFS2 filesystems) that > > you won't be able to take advantage of without extreme pain. Take a > > look at the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING (see > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/UPDATING?rev=1.251.2.12&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&only_with_tag=RELENG_5_1 > > for details from the UPDATING file for 5.1-RELEASE -- the bit you > > want > > is pretty much right at the end of the file) On the whole, you may > > find it more productive to cut yourself some 5.1 Installation media, > > wipe your present system and do a fresh install. > > > > > If pkg_add -r is provided a URL to a CURRENT directory, would it > > fetch > > > all dependencies from the same directory or would it revert to its > > > configured URL to fetch the dependencies? > > > > From reading the source code, I
Re: Where is the config file?
The reason I am asking all these questions is that I am exploring the possibility of of writing an apt-get like application for FreeBSD (call it apt-pkg). Apt-get was written to help out dpkg in Debian. pkg_add has a lot more features than dpkg but not the update/upgrade features of apt-get. So pkg_add simply requires an 'aide' applcation that simply provides pkg_add information on what to install - kind of a gentler user interface for pkg_add. anyone aware of such a project. Do not want to reinvent the wheel here. But having used debian for some time, I have come to appreciate the appeal this has for ne users and users who simply want to install binaries. Thanks for the rseponses. -D PS: I am thinking of writing it in Python. Good/Bad --- Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:27:42AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: > > I would like to know where pkg_add keeps its configuration file? I > mean > > when I execute the command 'pkg_add -r bzip2' how does it know that > it > > needs to fetch it from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/./packages-4-stable/ > > as opposed to packages-4-current? > > pkg_add works out the path it looks for on the FTP servers from the > system version number -- there isn't a specific configuration file > for > it. You can override the defaults by setting various environment > variables: PACKAGEROOT, PACKAGESITE as described in the pkg_add(1) > man > page. > > If you're interested in exactly how pkg_add works out what URL to > use, > look at the definition of the 'releases' array near the top of > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c Hmmm... I do believe I can > see what might be a bijou little buglette there. Seems that there's > no mention of packages-4.8-release or the impending > packages-4.9-release. (Checks cvsweb...) Hmmm... Looks like only > RELENG_4_8 branch gets an indication of where the 4.8-RELEASE > packages > are. Makes a certain kind of sense. > > > Also, along the same note, I searched through the handbook but > could > > not find any information on how to convert a 4-STABLE to a > 4-CURRENT. I > > want to only use CURRENT software not update my kernel to CURRENT. > Is > > this possible? > > Firstly, there's no such thing as 4-CURRENT and there hasn't been for > several years. Your choices at the moment (other than one of the > -RELEASE branches) are 4-STABLE or 5-CURRENT. Similarly, there is no > 5-STABLE just yet: the omens are that it may appear alongside 5.3 > release. This is documented in > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html > > and > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/index.html > > Using 5-CURRENT is not recommended unless you are of FreeBSD > developer > calibre, as it is the bleeding edge and you will need quite a lot of > code-fu to be able to deal with the fine messes it can get you into. > You seem to be on 4-STABLE already -- unless you have a pressing > reason, like you have hardware only supported in 5.x or insatiable > curiosity, then I'd stick with that. If you must run a 5.x version > go > with 5.1-RELEASE which is the best and most recent 5.x code right > now. > > As for upgrading from 4.x-STABLE to 5.x-RELEASE: this can be done by > compiling the 5.x sources under 4.x, but it is by no means a trivial > task, and there are various new features (like UFS2 filesystems) that > you won't be able to take advantage of without extreme pain. Take a > look at the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING (see > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/UPDATING?rev=1.251.2.12&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&only_with_tag=RELENG_5_1 > for details from the UPDATING file for 5.1-RELEASE -- the bit you > want > is pretty much right at the end of the file) On the whole, you may > find it more productive to cut yourself some 5.1 Installation media, > wipe your present system and do a fresh install. > > > If pkg_add -r is provided a URL to a CURRENT directory, would it > fetch > > all dependencies from the same directory or would it revert to its > > configured URL to fetch the dependencies? > > From reading the source code, I believe that the first option will be > the case, unless you set PKG_ADD_BASE in the environment. But I > could > be wrong. Trying a combination of the '-n' and -v' flags to pkg_add > should let you confirm your suppositions without screwing up your > system. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks > Savill Way > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow > Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH > UK > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMA
Re: Where is the config file?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:27:42AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: > I would like to know where pkg_add keeps its configuration file? I mean > when I execute the command 'pkg_add -r bzip2' how does it know that it > needs to fetch it from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/./packages-4-stable/ > as opposed to packages-4-current? pkg_add works out the path it looks for on the FTP servers from the system version number -- there isn't a specific configuration file for it. You can override the defaults by setting various environment variables: PACKAGEROOT, PACKAGESITE as described in the pkg_add(1) man page. If you're interested in exactly how pkg_add works out what URL to use, look at the definition of the 'releases' array near the top of /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c Hmmm... I do believe I can see what might be a bijou little buglette there. Seems that there's no mention of packages-4.8-release or the impending packages-4.9-release. (Checks cvsweb...) Hmmm... Looks like only RELENG_4_8 branch gets an indication of where the 4.8-RELEASE packages are. Makes a certain kind of sense. > Also, along the same note, I searched through the handbook but could > not find any information on how to convert a 4-STABLE to a 4-CURRENT. I > want to only use CURRENT software not update my kernel to CURRENT. Is > this possible? Firstly, there's no such thing as 4-CURRENT and there hasn't been for several years. Your choices at the moment (other than one of the -RELEASE branches) are 4-STABLE or 5-CURRENT. Similarly, there is no 5-STABLE just yet: the omens are that it may appear alongside 5.3 release. This is documented in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/index.html Using 5-CURRENT is not recommended unless you are of FreeBSD developer calibre, as it is the bleeding edge and you will need quite a lot of code-fu to be able to deal with the fine messes it can get you into. You seem to be on 4-STABLE already -- unless you have a pressing reason, like you have hardware only supported in 5.x or insatiable curiosity, then I'd stick with that. If you must run a 5.x version go with 5.1-RELEASE which is the best and most recent 5.x code right now. As for upgrading from 4.x-STABLE to 5.x-RELEASE: this can be done by compiling the 5.x sources under 4.x, but it is by no means a trivial task, and there are various new features (like UFS2 filesystems) that you won't be able to take advantage of without extreme pain. Take a look at the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/UPDATING?rev=1.251.2.12&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&only_with_tag=RELENG_5_1 for details from the UPDATING file for 5.1-RELEASE -- the bit you want is pretty much right at the end of the file) On the whole, you may find it more productive to cut yourself some 5.1 Installation media, wipe your present system and do a fresh install. > If pkg_add -r is provided a URL to a CURRENT directory, would it fetch > all dependencies from the same directory or would it revert to its > configured URL to fetch the dependencies? From reading the source code, I believe that the first option will be the case, unless you set PKG_ADD_BASE in the environment. But I could be wrong. Trying a combination of the '-n' and -v' flags to pkg_add should let you confirm your suppositions without screwing up your system. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where is the config file?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:27:42AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: > I would like to know where pkg_add keeps its configuration file? I mean > when I execute the command 'pkg_add -r bzip2' how does it know that it > needs to fetch it from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/./packages-4-stable/ > as opposed to packages-4-current? There isn't any configuration file. pkg_add determines the directory name to be used from the version of FreeBSD that is is running under. > > Also, along the same note, I searched through the handbook but could > not find any information on how to convert a 4-STABLE to a 4-CURRENT. I > want to only use CURRENT software not update my kernel to CURRENT. Is > this possible? Since 4-STABLE is newer than 4-CURRENT, I don't see why you would want to do that. 4-CURRENT was the name used to refer to the development branch of FreeBSD after the 3.x branch had been created and before 4.0-RELEASE had been made. After 4.0-RELEASE had been made the development branch was called 5-CURRENT. 4-STABLE is the branch that all the 4.x releases come from. > > If pkg_add -r is provided a URL to a CURRENT directory, would it fetch > all dependencies from the same directory or would it revert to its > configured URL to fetch the dependencies? > > Thanks in advance. If you want to override where pkg_add fetches packages from you can set the PACKAGEROOT and PACKAGESITE environment variables to appropriate values as described in the pkg_add(1) manpage. -- Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
