Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/14/09, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> Valid point. I didn't make the clarification that I should >> have. graid3 and gmirror have reached the maturity and >> dedicated to the system, whereas ZFS is still experimental. >> When ZFS is no longer considered experimental, I would expect >> ZFS support i

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Gustafson
> Valid point. I didn't make the clarification that I should > have. graid3 and gmirror have reached the maturity and > dedicated to the system, whereas ZFS is still experimental. > When ZFS is no longer considered experimental, I would expect > ZFS support in the installer in the same expectation

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/14/09, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> From: "Tim Judd" >> I don't use ZFS, UFS2 works fine for me. I would find it >> ridiculous to see ZFS support in the installer, but all GEOM >> should be supported. Especially the raid3 and mirror. > > So, you like the idea of including RAID3 and mirror becau

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Steve Bertrand
Jason Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS >> boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some >> how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of wa

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Gustafson
I'm responding to two people's comments here in one response. :) > From: "Brian A. Seklecki" > I make the suggestions because you're asking about an > advanced topic, so I gave you an honest answer. Honest answers are appreciated. :) I'm not saying that the way you suggested was invalid, jus

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 08:58 -0700, Tim Gustafson wrote: > then there's no reason that the functionality couldn't or shouldn't be > built into the installer. With a few machines, yes. Once you get to 5 or 6, start building your own custom internal ISOs, and maintain your configuration templates in

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/14/09, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even >> have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use >> sysinst. The livefs image has all of the tools that you >> need to bootstrap a system. > > That's a silly answer. The way to get more peop

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Gustafson
> No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even > have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use > sysinst. The livefs image has all of the tools that you > need to bootstrap a system. That's a silly answer. The way to get more people to use FreeBSD is to make the install

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-14 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:48 -0700, Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support > ZFS boot partitions in the installer. No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use sysi

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Tim Gustafson
> I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want > random crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 > versions. I'm using 7.2 at the moment with a standard UFS2 boot partition and a 500GB ZFS pool. My ZFS pool actually seems pretty stable. I did a "make -j 16 b

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Jason Garrett
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS > boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some > how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the > impression I got

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread chris scott
My zfs only system works fine but it based on 8-beta2 built around 16 May( will be rebuilding soon) The main thing to remember to do it make sure your have zfs_loader_support="yes" in your src of make.conf I based my install on this howto http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRootWithZFSboot#installFreeB

Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Stapper
Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS boot > partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some how-to > documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the impression I got > is that support for ZFS parti