Re: Applications using hard disk too often

2006-03-06 Thread Frank J. Laszlo

Kevin Kinsey wrote:

Frank J. Laszlo wrote:


Michael Tuchman wrote:

I am running freeBSD 5.4 stable on a P133 box with 128 Mb ram. 
Although I don't think I'm overloading the system, it seems that

my system is using virtual memory too often.   Admittedly, this
is a subjective question where 'too often' means only 'more often
than I remember with other *nix-like operating environments on
even weaker machines'.



Without some clue as to what the system is doing, IMHO it's difficult
for anyone to speculate why you'd be "swapping" so much.  FreeBSD
uses all the memory it has because the designers know that "free
memory is wasted memory" ... I don't know where that statement
originated, but you'll hear it from FreeBSD programmers if you keep
your ears open.

One possibility is that you have actually configured **too much swap
space** (Joshua Coombs, http://www.bsdnews.org/03/tuning.pdf).

I'd also have to say that I'd consider this box to be a tad slow for
a workstation unless your graphical environment was rather lightweight.
I've tried GNOME2 on an AMD K6-2 475 with 128 MB and it just
crawled.  It's slightly better with XFCE, but to get much performance
from a box like that I'd recommend black/fluxbox or something equally
easy on the resources.  If this isn't a graphical environment, then
something *is* wrong, I'd think.


Can anybody offer advice on memory management, appropriate
places to read in the documentation, or other useful links?




Advice: with 128MB of RAM, don't open 127MB PDF files  

Reading:  Chapter 2 of McCusick's "Design & Implementation":

  
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/design-44bsd/index.html


and tuning(7) are a couple of canonical resources.  Google is always
your friend, also.  I apologize if that seems like "RTFM, newb"; it's 
just

that IANAE and don't play one on the Internet, either.


I realize that the answer is 'it depends', so what I am asking is 
really

* How can I find out if I change this annoying behavior for the better?




Experiment?  Add RAM; take away RAM; add more swap; take away some
swap.

Of course, not all of those could be called exactly 'trivial' to the 
system.



* Would upgrading to 6.0 help?




Possibly, but without knowing the cause it's hard to say for sure;
IOW, no silver bullet there.



This is an experimental box only.  There is no critical data on it,
so data loss is not an issue when considering options.



The 5.x series was a "transition" release, to ease the pain between
4.x and 6.x.



Hmm, I wonder.  4.X to 5.X wasn't completely "painless", (at least, you
had to take some pains to get it right), so I might contest this.  Any
further discussion or speculation on this would place this posting in
the political rather than technical realm, which I am loathe to do.  For
one reason or another, 6.X is out.  6.X is good.  AFAIAC, 5.X was also
good and 4.X was good too.


I would recommend going up to 6.0 (or 6.1, But I have not
yet tested it) Doing a fresh install would probably be in your best 
interest.



The transition from 5.4 to 6.X is quite trivial; the only reason a
"fresh install" might benefit is if the OP has too much swap and
wants to configure less during slicing.

It's also possible that doing a fresh install of 6.0 would fix the
problem, but teach us nothing about the situation we'd hoped
to learn from??


I suggested a fresh install due to the fact that 6.0 has improved FS 
support. Including multi threading capabilities. And yes, the upgrade 
from 4.x -> 5.x was a PITA, But imagine the pain involved with a 4.x -> 
6.x upgrade. ;)


-Frank

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Re: Applications using hard disk too often

2006-03-05 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Frank J. Laszlo wrote:


Michael Tuchman wrote:

I am running freeBSD 5.4 stable on a P133 box with 128 Mb ram. 
Although I don't think I'm overloading the system, it seems that

my system is using virtual memory too often.   Admittedly, this
is a subjective question where 'too often' means only 'more often
than I remember with other *nix-like operating environments on
even weaker machines'.



Without some clue as to what the system is doing, IMHO it's difficult
for anyone to speculate why you'd be "swapping" so much.  FreeBSD
uses all the memory it has because the designers know that "free
memory is wasted memory" ... I don't know where that statement
originated, but you'll hear it from FreeBSD programmers if you keep
your ears open.

One possibility is that you have actually configured **too much swap
space** (Joshua Coombs, http://www.bsdnews.org/03/tuning.pdf).

I'd also have to say that I'd consider this box to be a tad slow for
a workstation unless your graphical environment was rather lightweight.
I've tried GNOME2 on an AMD K6-2 475 with 128 MB and it just
crawled.  It's slightly better with XFCE, but to get much performance
from a box like that I'd recommend black/fluxbox or something equally
easy on the resources.  If this isn't a graphical environment, then
something *is* wrong, I'd think.


Can anybody offer advice on memory management, appropriate
places to read in the documentation, or other useful links?




Advice: with 128MB of RAM, don't open 127MB PDF files  

Reading:  Chapter 2 of McCusick's "Design & Implementation":

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/design-44bsd/index.html

and tuning(7) are a couple of canonical resources.  Google is always
your friend, also.  I apologize if that seems like "RTFM, newb"; it's just
that IANAE and don't play one on the Internet, either.



I realize that the answer is 'it depends', so what I am asking is really
* How can I find out if I change this annoying behavior for the better?




Experiment?  Add RAM; take away RAM; add more swap; take away some
swap.

Of course, not all of those could be called exactly 'trivial' to the system.


* Would upgrading to 6.0 help?




Possibly, but without knowing the cause it's hard to say for sure;
IOW, no silver bullet there.



This is an experimental box only.  There is no critical data on it,
so data loss is not an issue when considering options.



The 5.x series was a "transition" release, to ease the pain between
4.x and 6.x.



Hmm, I wonder.  4.X to 5.X wasn't completely "painless", (at least, you
had to take some pains to get it right), so I might contest this.  Any
further discussion or speculation on this would place this posting in
the political rather than technical realm, which I am loathe to do.  For
one reason or another, 6.X is out.  6.X is good.  AFAIAC, 5.X was also
good and 4.X was good too.


I would recommend going up to 6.0 (or 6.1, But I have not
yet tested it) Doing a fresh install would probably be in your best 
interest.



The transition from 5.4 to 6.X is quite trivial; the only reason a
"fresh install" might benefit is if the OP has too much swap and
wants to configure less during slicing.

It's also possible that doing a fresh install of 6.0 would fix the
problem, but teach us nothing about the situation we'd hoped
to learn from??

Also running a custom kernel will ease some of the overhead, if you 
aren't

already doing that. Remove anything from the kernel you do not use, etc..



Absolutely.  But, be careful and read the config files carefully, or
we'll be hearing from you that your kernel won't compile


There are numerous documents for doing this. The freebsd handbook is a
excellent resource for both newbies and seasoned system admins.
(http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) The output of `ps uxaww` will give
us more of an idea of what you can get rid of as far as running daemons.
Hope this helps.

-Frank



Good advice.

Michael: tell us more about the system?


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Re: Applications using hard disk too often

2006-03-05 Thread Frank J. Laszlo

Michael Tuchman wrote:
I am running freeBSD 5.4 stable on a P133 box with 128 Mb ram.  
Although I don't think I'm overloading the system, it seems that my 
system is using virtual memory too often.   Admittedly, this is a 
subjective question where 'too often' means only 'more often than I 
remember with other *nix-like operating environments on even weaker 
machines'.


Can anybody offer advice on memory management, appropriate places to 
read in the documentation, or other useful links?


I realize that the answer is 'it depends', so what I am asking is really
* How can I find out if I change this annoying behavior for the better?
* Would upgrading to 6.0 help?

This is an experimental box only.  There is no critical data on it, so 
data loss is not an issue when considering options.


The 5.x series was a "transition" release, to ease the pain between 4.x 
and 6.x. I would recommend going up to 6.0 (or 6.1, But I have not yet 
tested it) Doing a fresh install would probably be in your best 
interest. Also running a custom kernel will ease some of the overhead, 
if you aren't already doing that. Remove anything from the kernel you do 
not use, etc.. There are numerous documents for doing this. The freebsd 
handbook is a excellent resource for both newbies and seasoned system 
admins. (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) The output of `ps uxaww` will 
give us more of an idea of what you can get rid of as far as running 
daemons. Hope this helps.


-Frank
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Re: Applications starting problem (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) after upgrade

2004-07-21 Thread /root/of/all/evil
> I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.  Is the "x" 
> executable bit set when you do an ls -l in /usr/local/etc/rc.d?
> 
> # ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel635 Jun 15 05:58 apache.sh
>^  ^  ^
> 
> Are these bits set for all of the scripts in the directory?
> 
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

As I said - yes, they are:

(%:/usr/local/etc/rc.d)- ls -lCzwartek 06:24:23
total 18
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel50 23 Maj 14:42 000.compat4x.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   181 24 Cze 23:50 000.mysql-client.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   248 13 Lip 19:11 000.pkgtools.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1809 21 Lip 20:30 apache2.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   407 31 Maj 20:29 apache2.sh.orig
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   227  9 Lip 14:27 helix.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   549 24 Cze 23:41 mysql-server.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   550 24 Cze 13:48 oidentd.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   558 21 Lip 20:23 pure-ftpd.sh
([EMAIL PROTECTED])(110/ttyp0)(06:24P:07/22/04)-
(%:/usr/local/etc/rc.d)-
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Re: Applications starting problem (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) after upgrade

2004-07-21 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, /root/of/all/evil wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:12:27PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, /root/of/all/evil wrote:
The only daemon (called application somwhere in my mail) that starts
normally during
system boot is apache2. Rest of them does not boot normally, but if I add
them (I mean
'them' == the full path to their starting scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/)
to the end of
apache`s script, then they are starting..
Are they all set to executable (chmod +x)?
Yes, they all are executable - if I add them to the end of the only script
that is starting normally (wich i s apache2 in this case) they execute normally and
the deamons are starting. But leaving them in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ just do nothing.
I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.  Is the "x" 
executable bit set when you do an ls -l in /usr/local/etc/rc.d?

# ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel635 Jun 15 05:58 apache.sh
   ^  ^  ^
Are these bits set for all of the scripts in the directory?
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Applications starting problem (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) after upgrade

2004-07-21 Thread /root/of/all/evil
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:12:27PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, /root/of/all/evil wrote:
> 
> >The only daemon (called application somwhere in my mail) that starts 
> >normally during
> >system boot is apache2. Rest of them does not boot normally, but if I add 
> >them (I mean
> >'them' == the full path to their starting scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) 
> >to the end of
> >apache`s script, then they are starting..
> 
> Are they all set to executable (chmod +x)?
> 
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

Yes, they all are executable - if I add them to the end of the only script
that is starting normally (wich i s apache2 in this case) they execute normally and
the deamons are starting. But leaving them in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ just do nothing.
:(

Any ideas?
r.
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Re: Applications starting problem (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) afterupgrade

2004-07-21 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, /root/of/all/evil wrote:
The only daemon (called application somwhere in my mail) that starts normally during
system boot is apache2. Rest of them does not boot normally, but if I add them (I mean
'them' == the full path to their starting scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) to the end 
of
apache`s script, then they are starting..
Are they all set to executable (chmod +x)?
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Applications starting problem (from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) afterupgrade

2004-07-21 Thread /root/of/all/evil
The only daemon (called application somwhere in my mail) that starts normally during
system boot is apache2. Rest of them does not boot normally, but if I add them (I mean
'them' == the full path to their starting scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) to the end 
of
apache`s script, then they are starting..

r.
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Re: applications

2003-09-03 Thread Todd Stephens
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 12:01 pm, Doug Love wrote:
> A friend recommends your OS over Linux for my home system.
> I've taken a 2 day Linux Admin course, and know just about that much.
> I don't see a quick answer on your webpages to my questions.
> Where can I find


> A Database similar to Access

You will not find this yet.  The KDE project is working on an 
application called Kexi, that is similar to Access in that it is a 
desktop database system (using a very small, lightweight SQL backend).  
There is a similar commercial application from thekompany.com, but I 
have no idea if it would run on FreeBSD, even under Linux compat.

> Spreadsheets

Gnumeric.  OpenOffice has one as does KOffice.

> Pkzip
>

There are more compression tools than you can shake a stick at :)

-- 
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Re: applications

2003-09-03 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 11:01 am, Doug Love wrote:
> A friend recommends your OS over Linux for my home system.
> I've taken a 2 day Linux Admin course, and know just about that much.
> I don't see a quick answer on your webpages to my questions.
> Where can I find
>Fortran
> Basic
> A Database similar to Access

There are no products similar to MS Access.  MS Access is a **desktop** 
database with good connectivity and some **nifty** RAD/GUI tools.  Even with 
Codeweaver's CrossOffice 2.0, however, MS Access has memory problems running 
on Linux.  (This is from personal experience.)

Database servers include PostgreSQL and MySQL (there are others).  If you tend 
to push your hardware limits, I recommend PostgreSQL on FreeBSD over either 
database on Linux. (I've tried both databases on Linux and FreeBSD on the 
same hardware.  Your Mileage May Vary.)  Privilege administration is easier 
in MySQL since it allows the use of wildcards in place of database and table 
names.  MySQL, however, does not have a boolean (true/false, yes/no) data 
type.

ODBC drivers are available for both PostgreSQL and MySQL.  Using MS Access as 
a GUI, client to PostgreSQL or MySQL works very well for applications and 
data analysis; but is not a good choice for database server administration.

> Spreadsheets

Spreadsheet programs include gnumeric, OpenOffice and Kspread.

> Pkzip

There are various compression utilities.  I actually prefer to use gzip on the 
command line in both FreeBSD and Windows.  There is also a GUI gzip for 
Windows: wingz.

>
> I hear a lot about the system being a server, but all I need to do is
> browse the web and use email similar to Netscape.  How easy is it to set
> up?

Install a desktop and run Mozilla, which is at the core of Netscape.  It will 
look very familiar.  It includes the browser, email client, etc.

Be Advised:  There is a Supply-Side Economics aspect to FreeBSD.  You may find 
that the possibilities increase your "needs".;-)

>
> --
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Have fun,

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Re: applications

2003-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:01:58PM -0400, Doug Love wrote:
> A friend recommends your OS over Linux for my home system.
> I've taken a 2 day Linux Admin course, and know just about that much.
> I don't see a quick answer on your webpages to my questions.
> Where can I find
>Fortran

  f77 -- part of gcc, comes with the base system.

> Basic

  Various ports:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/lang/bwbasic/pkg-descr
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/lang/pbasic/pkg-descr
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/lang/yabasic/pkg-descr

> A Database similar to Access

  Well, there are a few to choose from in
  http://www.freebsd.org/ports/databases.html.  The most popular are:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/databases/mysql40-server/pkg-descr
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/databases/postgresql7/pkg-descr

  But those are full-featured RDBMSes, and probably a bit too
  heavyweight for your purposes.

> Spreadsheets

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/math/gnumeric2/pkg-descr
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/openoffice/pkg-descr

> Pkzip

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/archivers/zip/pkg-descr
 
> I hear a lot about the system being a server, but all I need to do is
> browse the web and use email similar to Netscape.  How easy is it to set
> up?

In my opinion, not that hard at all.  Of course I've been using
FreeBSD day in, day out for many years so I would say that, wouldn't
I?  It will be a learning experience if you've never used a Unixoid
system before -- in which case, it would be a good idea to pick up one
of the many fine FreeBSD guide books of which a selection can be
found here:

http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/search?id=qoBA4QWC&mv_pc=6


Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD", 4th Ed. is I think the latest
available, but there are 3 or 4 alternatives covering similar ground,
such as "FreeBSD Unleashed" by Michael Urban or "Absolute BSD: The
Ultimate Guide to FreeBSD" by Michael Lucas.  Not forgetting the
Handbook, which is on-line at:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: applications

2003-09-03 Thread Adam McLaurin
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Doug Love wrote:
> A friend recommends your OS over Linux for my home system.
> I've taken a 2 day Linux Admin course, and know just about that much.
> I don't see a quick answer on your webpages to my questions.
> Where can I find
>Fortran
> Basic
> A Database similar to Access
> Spreadsheets
> Pkzip

You can search the FreeBSD ports collection here:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/
http://www.freshports.org/

As for databases, I'd recommend using PostgreSQL with a nice GUI/web
frontend. There are several available that works on FreeBSD, including
PGAccess and phpPgAdmin. However, I would NEVER consider PostgreSQL to
be "similar to Access". That'd be a huge insult to PostgreSQL. 

For spreadsheet, there's none better than gnumeric2. I think you'll be
very happy with that one.

For compression utilities, you'll find yourself using tar, bzip2, gzip,
zip, and unzip, which are all included in the base OS. There's also a
RAR compression tool in the ports, if you need it.


> I hear a lot about the system being a server, but all I need to do is
> browse the web and use email similar to Netscape.  How easy is it to set
> up?

FreeBSD is a fantastic OS for a workstation. For web browsing, I'd
recommend either Galeon2 or Epiphany, depending on your needs. For
email, go for either Evolution or Sylpheed, or the new Thunderbird port
(once it's available).

It's quite simple to set up, and there are dozens of pages out there to
pretty much hold your hand on every step. You'll just need to make the
effort to search and read!

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Re: applications

2003-09-03 Thread Jud
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:26:30 -0700, "Joshua Oreman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:01:58PM -0400 or thereabouts, Doug Love wrote:
> > A friend recommends your OS over Linux for my home system.
> > I've taken a 2 day Linux Admin course, and know just about that much.
> > I don't see a quick answer on your webpages to my questions.
> > Where can I find
> >Fortran
> > Basic
> 
> Search the ports; I don't know about those languages.

Here's a web page with links to the various categories in which the 9037+
applications ported to FreeBSD can be found:  http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html>

In addition to the search function on that page, Google, Google Groups
and any other search engine you like may be of help.

Jud
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Re: applications

2003-09-03 Thread Joshua Oreman
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:01:58PM -0400 or thereabouts, Doug Love wrote:
> A friend recommends your OS over Linux for my home system.
> I've taken a 2 day Linux Admin course, and know just about that much.
> I don't see a quick answer on your webpages to my questions.
> Where can I find
>Fortran
> Basic

Search the ports; I don't know about those languages.

> A Database similar to Access

But without the pretty interface? Try MySQL.
With a pretty web-based interface? MySQL + phpmyadmin.

> Spreadsheets

Gnumeric or OpenOffice spreadsheet or KSpread (part of KOffice)

> Pkzip

There's a program called `zip' and one called `unzip' in ports.

> 
> I hear a lot about the system being a server, but all I need to do is
> browse the web and use email similar to Netscape.  How easy is it to set
> up?

Pretty easy. For Web browser use KDE Konqueror, Mozilla, Galeon, Opera, or Dillo;
for mail use KMail, Mozilla, Thunderbird (not in ports yet but should be someday),
Sylpheed, or Evolution; if you want console-based email (VERY clean but a bit...
err... different) try mutt or pine.

By your program descriptions above it seems you've come from Windows. I think
you'll find the KDE desktop most familiar (GNOME works too).

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Re: Applications crash in KDE

2003-08-01 Thread Hasse
Thx a lot Antoine.
Recompiling qt -DWITHOUT_OPENGL did the trick.
/Geir.

On Friday 01 August 2003 22.53, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> Selon Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Yes, downloaded from http://www.nvidia.com
> > Didn't get the one from ports to build.
> > It seems like something got built threaded, that's not supposed to.
> > /Geir.
>
> OK, so you have to recompile qt (and kde) with the following option:
> -DWITHOUT_OPENGL
>
> Antoine

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Re: Applications crash in KDE

2003-08-01 Thread Hasse

That will be KDE-Base ?
/Geir.

On Friday 01 August 2003 22.53, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> Selon Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Yes, downloaded from http://www.nvidia.com
> > Didn't get the one from ports to build.
> > It seems like something got built threaded, that's not supposed to.
> > /Geir.
>
> OK, so you have to recompile qt (and kde) with the following option:
> -DWITHOUT_OPENGL
>
> Antoine
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Re: Applications crash in KDE

2003-08-01 Thread Hasse
Hi Antoine.
Will do.
Thx a lot.
/Geir.
On Friday 01 August 2003 22.53, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> Selon Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Yes, downloaded from http://www.nvidia.com
> > Didn't get the one from ports to build.
> > It seems like something got built threaded, that's not supposed to.
> > /Geir.
>
> OK, so you have to recompile qt (and kde) with the following option:
> -DWITHOUT_OPENGL
>
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Re: Applications crash in KDE

2003-08-01 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Selon Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes, downloaded from http://www.nvidia.com
> Didn't get the one from ports to build.
> It seems like something got built threaded, that's not supposed to.
> /Geir.

OK, so you have to recompile qt (and kde) with the following option:
-DWITHOUT_OPENGL

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Re: Applications crash in KDE

2003-08-01 Thread Hasse
Yes, downloaded from http://www.nvidia.com
Didn't get the one from ports to build.
It seems like something got built threaded, that's not supposed to.
/Geir.

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> Are you using the NVidia binary drivers ?
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Re: Applications crash in KDE

2003-08-01 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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On Friday 01 August 2003 21:02, Hasse Hund wrote:
> Below are a snip from the Crash-handler.

Are you using the NVidia binary drivers ?

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