Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-28 Thread wo_shi_big_stomach
 
 you might try paging through dmesg | more to see
 if
 the system recognizes your interface on bootup.
 
 %dmesg | more | grep dc0
 
 dc0: 82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX port 0x6800-0x68ff
 mem 
 0xe900-0xe9ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0
 miibus0: MII bus on dc0
 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf
 dc0: if_start running deferred for Giant
 dc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port
 0x64,0x60 on isa0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
 fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port
 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
 fdc0: [FAST]
 fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
 dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state
 ..
 .. 332 identical lines deleted
 ..
 dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state
 
 
 Any problems here?

You *may* have a mismatch in autonegotiation or manual
speed/duplex parameters between dc0 and whatever it's
plugged into. Make sure both sides are set to
autonegotiate or, if they're set manually, that both
use the same speed and duplex parameters.

Personal preference, but I disable autonegotiation
wherever I can. I have had more connectivity problems
with autoneg than virtually any other networking
issue.

/wsbs

 
 Thanks for explaining the reason for the different
 device names. I'm 
 thinking the 4.8 nic may be an isa 3com 10mbps,
 while am quite sure the 5.3 
 nic is a pci netgear 100mbps.
 
 
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-27 Thread Marty Landman
At 10:47 PM 2/26/2005, wo_shi_big_stomach wrote:
--- Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just can't help but notice that this is only a
 problem on my 5.3 box and
 not on the 4.8.
you might try paging through dmesg | more to see if
the system recognizes your interface on bootup.
%dmesg | more | grep dc0
dc0: 82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX port 0x6800-0x68ff mem 
0xe900-0xe9ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0
miibus0: MII bus on dc0
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf
dc0: if_start running deferred for Giant
dc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state
..
.. 332 identical lines deleted
..
dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state

Any problems here?
Thanks for explaining the reason for the different device names. I'm 
thinking the 4.8 nic may be an isa 3com 10mbps, while am quite sure the 5.3 
nic is a pci netgear 100mbps.

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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-27 Thread Marty Landman
At 11:32 PM 2/26/2005, Jonathan Chen wrote:
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:06:41PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:

 I just can't help but notice that this is only a problem on my 5.3 box and
 not on the 4.8. AFAIK the config's are identical, although obviously I am
 still a newbie at this.
As I said earlier, it has nothing to do with the FreeBSD machines and
everything to do with the DHCP Server.
Ok, then the reason my DHCP server on my XP gateway would have to be 
discriminating between the boxes since it's consistently only happening to 
one box and not the other.

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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-27 Thread Eric F Crist
On Feb 26, 2005, at 8:06 PM, Marty Landman wrote:
At 10:32 AM 2/26/2005, Eric F Crist wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly 
regular basis
[snip]
The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable.
The other thing you could try would be to set a static IP on your 
workstations...
I just can't help but notice that this is only a problem on my 5.3 box 
and not on the 4.8. AFAIK the config's are identical, although 
obviously I am still a newbie at this.

BTW, why is my nic on 4.8 ep0 but on 5.3 dc0? Is that the way it 
should be?

Marty
Marty,
The ed0, dc0 situation is because of the driver the NIC uses.  If you 
have two, or three, etc, cards that all use the same driver, then 
you'll start to see dc0, dc1, dc2, etc (provided they use the dc 
driver...

HTH
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-27 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 11:46:47AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:

[...]
 Ok, then the reason my DHCP server on my XP gateway would have to be 
 discriminating between the boxes since it's consistently only happening to 
 one box and not the other.

Correct. It is possible to set up DHCP servers so that the IP address
given out to clients is based on the MAC address of each network
device. That sure sounds like what your DHCP is doing.
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-27 Thread Marty Landman
At 01:25 PM 2/27/2005, Jonathan Chen wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 11:46:47AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 Ok, then the reason my DHCP server on my XP gateway would have to be
 discriminating between the boxes since it's consistently only happening to
 one box and not the other.
Correct. It is possible to set up DHCP servers so that the IP address
given out to clients is based on the MAC address of each network
device. That sure sounds like what your DHCP is doing.
It's odd that this only happens on one of three 'nix boxes on my LAN. 
Besides the fbsd 4.8 also have a rh9 and both have had very stable ip addr's.

The only thing I edit on the xp gateway is the %system%\drivers\etc\hosts 
file to map names to the ip's that appear to be assigned by the gateway 
itself, i.e. I let the gateway assign an ip, then ping by name to get the 
ip for mapping on the gateway host file.

Well I'm more interested in moving my gateway to fbsd than in learning the 
intricacies of windows ip assignments so maybe it's time to file this under 
'interesting, but not worth pursuing now'.

Marty
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-26 Thread Eric F Crist
On Feb 25, 2005, at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
[...]
Here's the problem, hope the preceding is a good background to it. 
Find
that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular 
basis
by (I guess) my xp gateway so that I then have to change the gateway 
hosts
file, the 5.3 hosts file and 5.3 rc.conf file.

The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable.
Any idea where I start to fix this? Would like the 5.3 box's IP addr 
to
remain stable as well.
This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD boxes, but rather a
configuration issue with your DHCP server. The DHCP server can be
configured so that it will always give the same IP for a particular
NIC. Talk to your admin about it.
--
The other thing you could try would be to set a static IP on your 
workstations...

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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-26 Thread Marty Landman
At 10:32 AM 2/26/2005, Eric F Crist wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular basis
[snip]
The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable.
The other thing you could try would be to set a static IP on your 
workstations...
I just can't help but notice that this is only a problem on my 5.3 box and 
not on the 4.8. AFAIK the config's are identical, although obviously I am 
still a newbie at this.

BTW, why is my nic on 4.8 ep0 but on 5.3 dc0? Is that the way it should be?
Marty
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-26 Thread wo_shi_big_stomach
--- Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just can't help but notice that this is only a
 problem on my 5.3 box and 
 not on the 4.8. AFAIK the config's are identical,
 although obviously I am 
 still a newbie at this.

you might try paging through dmesg | more to see if
the system recognizes your interface on bootup.

 
 BTW, why is my nic on 4.8 ep0 but on 5.3 dc0? Is
 that the way it should be?

This is almost certainly a case of two different
Ethernet adapter cards in the two machines.

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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-26 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:06:41PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 At 10:32 AM 2/26/2005, Eric F Crist wrote:
 
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 
 that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular 
 basis
 [snip]
 The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable.
 The other thing you could try would be to set a static IP on your 
 workstations...
 
 I just can't help but notice that this is only a problem on my 5.3 box and 
 not on the 4.8. AFAIK the config's are identical, although obviously I am 
 still a newbie at this.

As I said earlier, it has nothing to do with the FreeBSD machines and
everything to do with the DHCP Server.
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-25 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:

[...]
 Here's the problem, hope the preceding is a good background to it. Find 
 that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular basis 
 by (I guess) my xp gateway so that I then have to change the gateway hosts 
 file, the 5.3 hosts file and 5.3 rc.conf file.
 
 The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable.
 
 Any idea where I start to fix this? Would like the 5.3 box's IP addr to 
 remain stable as well.

This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD boxes, but rather a
configuration issue with your DHCP server. The DHCP server can be
configured so that it will always give the same IP for a particular
NIC. Talk to your admin about it.
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-25 Thread Marty Landman
At 05:27 PM 2/25/2005, Jonathan Chen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
[...]
 Here's the problem, hope the preceding is a good background to it. Find
 that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular basis
 by (I guess) my xp gateway so that I then have to change the gateway hosts
 file, the 5.3 hosts file and 5.3 rc.conf file.

 The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable.

 Any idea where I start to fix this? Would like the 5.3 box's IP addr to
 remain stable as well.
This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD boxes, but rather a
configuration issue with your DHCP server. The DHCP server can be
configured so that it will always give the same IP for a particular
NIC. Talk to your admin about it.
Yikes Jonathan, I /am/ the admin. {:/
Marty
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-25 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:20:31PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:

 This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD boxes, but rather a
 configuration issue with your DHCP server. The DHCP server can be
 configured so that it will always give the same IP for a particular
 NIC. Talk to your admin about it.
 
 Yikes Jonathan, I /am/ the admin. {:/

Having never dealt with DHCP servers on Windows, I cannot give you too
much advise about how to configure them. However, since you are the
network admin, you could possibly switch to using a UNIX based DHCP
server, eg ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. There are a few examples in the
sample config files that show how to allocate IP addresses based on
MAC addresses of NICs, and the server works a charm with Windows
machines as well.

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