Re: lightweight wm
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jud wrote: Subject: Re: lightweight wm On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:38:28 -0500 (EST), John Bleichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im on a pI 233mhz mmx with 64mb of ram what do u recommend me to install GNOME or KDE I use Blackbox on a 166 and it runs great (Fluxbox as suggested by somebody else is based on Blackbox I believe) - it's a great window manager. Controlled by a simple text file, multiple desktops, nice graphical styles, etc. mwm is nice too (very unix) but openmotif takes a long time to build. Though I have the hardware and disk space to run GNOME, KDE, or both if I wish, I gravitate to a lightweight ethic, so like John, I run Blackbox (as well as bbrun for extra convenience). Very occasionally I also use Windowmaker for a bit of variety. With a fairly lightweight GUI file manager, Rox-filer (not lightweight if built from ports, because the FreeBSD port has a bunch of GNOME dependencies; I just download it from its home page and install it, and it works fine for me - note, I do have Linux emulation installed), browser (Opera), mailer (Sylpheed), editor (nedit, though I also play with Xemacs and a couple of TeX editors), cd player (ascd or wmcdplay) and system monitor (GKrellM2), I feel pretty well set. These are all GUI applications, because you asked about GNOME and KDE, which are big GUI desktop environments. The FreeBSD base system comes with command line utilities which will take the places of several of these applications quite nicely. Jud Actually, just to be clear, I'm a KDE fan. KDE 3.1 is great, and on a multi-GHz box with 6 cubic yards of RAM who cares about resources? But on some of the lower-watt boxes I have (at work and at home) I need a lighterweight WM. Blackbox is great, very clean. Also, the code is very clean and makes an excellent X/WM tutorial. That said, I do run Blackbox for a while every now and again for a break ;) # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: lightweight wm
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-02-21 09:09:30 -0500: Blackbox is great, very clean. Also, the code is very clean and makes an excellent X/WM tutorial. Interesting. The Openbox developers have the opposite opinion. IANAC++C (I am not a C++ coder), co I can't comment on this. I switched from BB to OB, but that was for other reasons. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: lightweight wm
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, John Bleichert wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jud wrote: Subject: Re: lightweight wm On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:38:28 -0500 (EST), John Bleichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im on a pI 233mhz mmx with 64mb of ram what do u recommend me to install GNOME or KDE I use Blackbox on a 166 and it runs great (Fluxbox as suggested by somebody else is based on Blackbox I believe) - it's a great window manager. Controlled by a simple text file, multiple desktops, nice graphical styles, etc. mwm is nice too (very unix) but openmotif takes a long time to build. Though I have the hardware and disk space to run GNOME, KDE, or both if I wish, I gravitate to a lightweight ethic, so like John, I run Blackbox (as well as bbrun for extra convenience). Very occasionally I also use Windowmaker for a bit of variety. With a fairly lightweight GUI file manager, Rox-filer (not lightweight if built from ports, because the FreeBSD port has a bunch of GNOME dependencies; I just download it from its home page and install it, and it works fine for me - note, I do have Linux emulation installed), browser (Opera), mailer (Sylpheed), editor (nedit, though I also play with Xemacs and a couple of TeX editors), cd player (ascd or wmcdplay) and system monitor (GKrellM2), I feel pretty well set. These are all GUI applications, because you asked about GNOME and KDE, which are big GUI desktop environments. The FreeBSD base system comes with command line utilities which will take the places of several of these applications quite nicely. Jud Actually, just to be clear, I'm a KDE fan. KDE 3.1 is great, and on a multi-GHz box with 6 cubic yards of RAM who cares about resources? But on some of the lower-watt boxes I have (at work and at home) I need a lighterweight WM. Blackbox is great, very clean. Also, the code is very clean and makes an excellent X/WM tutorial. That said, I do run Blackbox for a while every now and again for a break I like things simple and with clean design, and I like using old stuff -- cars, cameras, and computers. A lightweight window manager would seem ideal for me, but I use GNOME because I like drag-n-drop (my typing sucks) and the way copy-paste through the clipboard works, better than the straight X method. And I like a consistent look-and-feel across applications. What features and benefits do you miss when you use Blackbox instead of KDE? Which window managers do you think are best suited for a pen-based system? -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Gary Dunn _/ _/ Open Slate Project _/ _/ http://openslate.sourceforge.net/ _/ _/ http://www.aloha.com/~knowtree/_/ _/ Honolulu _/ _/ registered Linux user #273809 _/ _/ _/ _/ This tagline is umop apisdn. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
re: lightweight wm
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im on a pI 233mhz mmx with 64mb of ram what do u recommend me to install GNOME or KDE I use Blackbox on a 166 and it runs great (Fluxbox as suggested by somebody else is based on Blackbox I believe) - it's a great window manager. Controlled by a simple text file, multiple desktops, nice graphical styles, etc. mwm is nice too (very unix) but openmotif takes a long time to build. HTH - JB # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: lightweight wm
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:38:28 -0500 (EST), John Bleichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im on a pI 233mhz mmx with 64mb of ram what do u recommend me to install GNOME or KDE I use Blackbox on a 166 and it runs great (Fluxbox as suggested by somebody else is based on Blackbox I believe) - it's a great window manager. Controlled by a simple text file, multiple desktops, nice graphical styles, etc. mwm is nice too (very unix) but openmotif takes a long time to build. Though I have the hardware and disk space to run GNOME, KDE, or both if I wish, I gravitate to a lightweight ethic, so like John, I run Blackbox (as well as bbrun for extra convenience). Very occasionally I also use Windowmaker for a bit of variety. With a fairly lightweight GUI file manager, Rox-filer (not lightweight if built from ports, because the FreeBSD port has a bunch of GNOME dependencies; I just download it from its home page and install it, and it works fine for me - note, I do have Linux emulation installed), browser (Opera), mailer (Sylpheed), editor (nedit, though I also play with Xemacs and a couple of TeX editors), cd player (ascd or wmcdplay) and system monitor (GKrellM2), I feel pretty well set. These are all GUI applications, because you asked about GNOME and KDE, which are big GUI desktop environments. The FreeBSD base system comes with command line utilities which will take the places of several of these applications quite nicely. Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
