Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-31 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 31 Dec Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2002-12-30 13:24, dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')

 a) Why /usr/bin/procmail and not the default path of the procmail port
installation [/usr/local/bin/procmail]?  I use procmail for local
delivery and all I needed to add to my local.mc file was:
 
   FEATURE(`local_procmail')
   MAILER(procmail)

Thanks for the reply. I like procmail as my local mail delivery.
Sorry for the path; it's an old habit. On my linux debian box procmail
is in /usr/bin; the rule came out of an old linux sendmail.ms file ;-)
It can't harm to give the correct path (/usr/local/bin/procmail) in the
sendmail.mc file, so I'll keep it in.

Things run smoothly already..

 b) You don't really need to use procmail as the delivery agent of ALL
the local users.  You can enable procmail on a per-user basis by
proper .forward files in their home directories.

Yeah, I've heard. I'm not quit sure about the correct syntax of the
.forward file.

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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-12-31 09:56, dick hoogendijk wrote:
 On 31 Dec Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  b) You don't really need to use procmail as the delivery agent of ALL
 the local users.  You can enable procmail on a per-user basis by
 proper .forward files in their home directories.

 Yeah, I've heard. I'm not quit sure about the correct syntax of the
 .forward file.

It is described in detail in forward(5).  Try looking through that
manpage for more information.  A very simple .forward file that I use
at home looks like:

% cat .forward
|/usr/local/bin/procmail

- Giorgos

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Re: procmail and anti-spam ..sendmail is dead

2002-12-31 Thread Cliff Sarginson
Use postfix.

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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-30 Thread dick hoogendijk
 Take a look at spamprobe in /usr/ports/mail/spamprobe.  It uses
 Bayesian analysis and catches about 99% of the spam I get (and I get a
 *ton*).  Also see http://sourceforge.net/projects/spamprobe/ for more
 information.

Everybody who reacted I say thank you!
I'm gonna try a few filter programs to see what does the job best.
Beginning with spamassassin (of maybe spamoracle or spamprobe).

In all cases I have to adjust the local mailer statement in my
sendmail. It runs the way it came out-of-the-box (fbsd-4.7R)
Local mail is *not* delivered by procmail by default.

I think I have to put the following lines into sendmail.mc

define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')
FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')
MAILER(procmail)dnl

Am I right about this or do I put them in submit.mc?

If procmail runs w/ sendmail any integration with anti-spam will be an
easy job w/ all these fine advices I got ;-))

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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-30 Thread Jim Mock
On Monday, December 30, 2002, at 04:05  AM, dick hoogendijk wrote:

Take a look at spamprobe in /usr/ports/mail/spamprobe.  It uses
Bayesian analysis and catches about 99% of the spam I get (and I get 
a *ton*).  Also see http://sourceforge.net/projects/spamprobe/ for 
more information.

Everybody who reacted I say thank you!
I'm gonna try a few filter programs to see what does the job best.
Beginning with spamassassin (of maybe spamoracle or spamprobe).

In all cases I have to adjust the local mailer statement in my
sendmail. It runs the way it came out-of-the-box (fbsd-4.7R)
Local mail is *not* delivered by procmail by default.

I think I have to put the following lines into sendmail.mc

define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')
FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')
MAILER(procmail)dnl

Am I right about this or do I put them in submit.mc?


Spamprobe doesn't require any changes to sendmail, you only need to 
tweak your .procmailrc.

- jim

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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-30 Thread dick hoogendijk
 define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')
 FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')
 MAILER(procmail)dnl
 
 Am I right about this or do I put them in submit.mc?
 
 Spamprobe doesn't require any changes to sendmail, you only need to 
 tweak your .procmailrc.

I know that, but sendmail does *not* use procmail for the local mail
delivary *yet*. It doesn't do that by default, hence my question ;-)

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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-12-30 13:24, dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')
  FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')
  MAILER(procmail)dnl
  
  Am I right about this or do I put them in submit.mc?
 
  Spamprobe doesn't require any changes to sendmail, you only need to
  tweak your .procmailrc.

 I know that, but sendmail does *not* use procmail for the local mail
 delivary *yet*. It doesn't do that by default, hence my question ;-)

Two minor points.

a) Why /usr/bin/procmail and not the default path of the procmail port
   installation [/usr/local/bin/procmail]?  I use procmail for local
   delivery and all I needed to add to my local.mc file was:

FEATURE(`local_procmail')
MAILER(procmail)

b) You don't really need to use procmail as the delivery agent of ALL
   the local users.  You can enable procmail on a per-user basis by
   proper .forward files in their home directories.


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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-29 Thread Alex

Dear/Beste dick,

Sunday, December 29, 2002, 5:12:16 PM, you wrote:

 Hello,

 It need not be state-of-the-art, but a good .procmailrc-file that
 filters a lot of spam would come in very handy.

 Does any of you have such a file and would you be willing to share it
 with me (us?).

 Links to procmail and anti-spam would also be welcome.

 Thanks 2all.

I beleave there is a port available called Spambouncer. There is a
discussion going on the security list about this port.


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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-29 Thread Adam Weinberger
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 (12.29.2002 @ 0812 PST): dick hoogendijk said, in 0.5K: 
 It need not be state-of-the-art, but a good .procmailrc-file that
 filters a lot of spam would come in very handy.
 
 Does any of you have such a file and would you be willing to share it
 with me (us?).
 end of procmail and anti-spam from dick hoogendijk 

This is what's in mine:

:0fw
| /usr/local/bin/spamassassin
:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
bullshit/

Here's what it does: It passes the mail through spamassassin
(/usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin), which will append a header named
X-Spam-Status to the mail. If that header exists, the mail is directed
into an appropriately named folder.

I now get between 50 and 60 spam messages a day (just one of the perks
of being a FreeBSD committer active on the mailing lists, I suppose),
and spamassassin catches about 95% of them.

To be honest, my procmail filter is a tad different. I have spamd
running from /usr/local/etc/rc.d, and my spamassassin filter line is
actually | /usr/local/bin/spamc. Same difference, though.

# Adam


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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-29 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 09:03 AM 12.29.2002 -0800, Adam Weinberger wrote:
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 (12.29.2002 @ 0812 PST): dick hoogendijk said, in 0.5K: 
 It need not be state-of-the-art, but a good .procmailrc-file that
 filters a lot of spam would come in very handy.
 
 Does any of you have such a file and would you be willing to share it
 with me (us?).
 end of procmail and anti-spam from dick hoogendijk 

This is what's in mine:

:0fw
| /usr/local/bin/spamassassin
:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
bullshit/

Here's what it does: It passes the mail through spamassassin
(/usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin), which will append a header named
X-Spam-Status to the mail. If that header exists, the mail is directed
into an appropriately named folder.

I now get between 50 and 60 spam messages a day (just one of the perks
of being a FreeBSD committer active on the mailing lists, I suppose),
and spamassassin catches about 95% of them.

To be honest, my procmail filter is a tad different. I have spamd
running from /usr/local/etc/rc.d, and my spamassassin filter line is
actually | /usr/local/bin/spamc. Same difference, though.

# Adam


Adam: I use Sendmail-8.12.6 with spamassassin  my question of you is about
your spamassassin setup. I just installed SA + Spamass-Milter and they
seemed to be working fine, except for this I keep seeing in the maillog (I
posted this on the SpamassTalk list, but no response):

Dec 29 11:14:49 sage-american spamd[72550]: info: setuid to root succeeded 
Dec 29 11:14:49 sage-american spamd[72550]: Still running as root: user not
specified, not found, or set to root.  Fall back to nobody.

I load spamd from /usr/local/etc/rc.d also and it does NOT set the root
specifically as the user. If I added -username root switch to the spamd
startup, would the above messages stop...??? ...have you seen the above
message youself?

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
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Re: procmail and anti-spam

2002-12-29 Thread Jim Mock
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 08:12  AM, dick hoogendijk wrote:

Hello,


Hi,


It need not be state-of-the-art, but a good .procmailrc-file that
filters a lot of spam would come in very handy.

Does any of you have such a file and would you be willing to share it
with me (us?).

Links to procmail and anti-spam would also be welcome.


Take a look at spamprobe in /usr/ports/mail/spamprobe.  It uses 
Bayesian analysis and catches about 99% of the spam I get (and I get a 
*ton*).  Also see http://sourceforge.net/projects/spamprobe/ for more 
information.

- jim

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