Re: skype and other *phones
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:10:25PM -0800, Renegade Penguin wrote: > > >Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: >> >>If you are open to suggestions on other phone systems, I have been very >>much enjoying my gizmo account. (gizmoproject.com) >> >Yes, but the gizmoproject is particularly onerous. Look at the EULA: > >http://www.gizmoproject.com/gizmo-end-user.html > >Michael Robertson is the head of that project, IIRC. Fairly nasty EULA >for using such "open" terms. Can't even redistribute the software. Gizmo turned me severely off a while back when one individual began repeatedly posting messages on the SkypeEnglish mailing list, which is designed to support Skype users who have visual impairments, advertising Gizmo. I saw no evidence that the individual was actually reading our list, and I consider it rude and highly unprofessional to post unrelated messages repeatedly, especially when they directly compete with the focus of the list, especially when posted by someone who doesn't even seem to read the list, and most especially when the person does not even respond to publicly raised concerns over the first two points but keeps right on posting. The posting stopped eventually, but by then I had developed an active disinterest in Gizmo. Questions as to how accessible to blind users Gizmo might be, such questions being at least related to the list's purpose, were not answered by the company as far as I know. Disclaimer: I can not speak to the company's intentions with respect to this kind of behavior, nor to the exact identity of the poster. At the time though, I was convinced it was a company representative. I have no affiliation with either company except (1) as a happy Skype user and (2) as a beta tester for Skype. The latter is covered by an NDA but is voluntary and not paid. -- Doug Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] SSB + BART Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "You must let me try, for a true soldier does not admit defeat before the battle." --Helen Keller (in a letter to the president of Radcliffe College) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: skype and other *phones
On 12/12/06, Renegade Penguin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > > If you are open to suggestions on other phone systems, I have been very > much enjoying my gizmo account. (gizmoproject.com) I generally use > ekiga > to connect to it, but the benefit of gizmo is that it uses the > standard SIP > protocol for accessing the service. Further, the rates are quite > good. For > free it gives services like incoming phone calls, voice mail, and free > SIP<->SIP calls. For a $.01/minute (for US numbers) fee it gives > outgoing > to-landline calls. Don't mean to sound like an advertisement, I just > love > open standards being used. > > Eric Kjeldergaard > Yes, but the gizmoproject is particularly onerous. Look at the EULA: http://www.gizmoproject.com/gizmo-end-user.html Michael Robertson is the head of that project, IIRC. Fairly nasty EULA for using such "open" terms. Can't even redistribute the software. Pity. As a bit of clarification, I'd like to note that I make no endorsement of the gizmo _software_ which this EULA regards. It is instead that the service with its SIP standard implementation that I enjoy. I was initially a bit upset that their software was not open source, but as the major alternative (skype) is both closed protocal and closed source, I choose the lesser of two weevils. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: skype and other *phones
Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: If you are open to suggestions on other phone systems, I have been very much enjoying my gizmo account. (gizmoproject.com) I generally use ekiga to connect to it, but the benefit of gizmo is that it uses the standard SIP protocol for accessing the service. Further, the rates are quite good. For free it gives services like incoming phone calls, voice mail, and free SIP<->SIP calls. For a $.01/minute (for US numbers) fee it gives outgoing to-landline calls. Don't mean to sound like an advertisement, I just love open standards being used. Eric Kjeldergaard Yes, but the gizmoproject is particularly onerous. Look at the EULA: http://www.gizmoproject.com/gizmo-end-user.html Michael Robertson is the head of that project, IIRC. Fairly nasty EULA for using such "open" terms. Can't even redistribute the software. Pity. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: skype and other *phones
On 12/10/06, Tsu-Fan Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi people, hapy holiday! i have a question about the internet phone apps, what is the major difference between skype and other *phone system? and I know that bsd has limited support of sound card that works with skype in the past, I wonder if the support is getting better these days? and also how is the driver support for other *phone apps? thank you for your time!! If you are open to suggestions on other phone systems, I have been very much enjoying my gizmo account. (gizmoproject.com) I generally use ekiga to connect to it, but the benefit of gizmo is that it uses the standard SIP protocol for accessing the service. Further, the rates are quite good. For free it gives services like incoming phone calls, voice mail, and free SIP<->SIP calls. For a $.01/minute (for US numbers) fee it gives outgoing to-landline calls. Don't mean to sound like an advertisement, I just love open standards being used. Eric Kjeldergaard -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: skype and other *phones
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:09:03 -0500 "Tsu-Fan Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi people, > hapy holiday! i have a question about the internet phone apps, > what is the major difference between skype and other *phone system? > and I know that bsd has limited support of sound card that works > with skype in the past, I wonder if the support is getting better > these days? and also how is the driver support for other *phone > apps? thank you for your time!! Been using it here with out a problem. :) Including calling out to regular phones. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
